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Re: NVDA failed to install

Sarah k Alawami
 

Glad you got it working, but please edit your subject or keep the current one going next time. It make sthose of us who monitor the list via email and via the forum a lot happier.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 9:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Q

Thank you all. Yes, I think I did it right. I used the MediaCreationTool and got Windows updated. Now I installed NVDA 22.1 and got the synthesizer I wanted. Now, I think the rest is straight forrward. We'll find out tomorrow.

Thanks to this great list and you folks, I may get this thing working.

Howard

On 6/1/2022 4:34 PM, Gene wrote:
Yes. I'm talking about doing that and typing in the windows start
search menu, which is where you will be

I'm suggesting you do what I suggest first. You don't know if the
computer isn't downloading updates. If you check, you will know. I'm
not saying you shouldn't do other things if there is a problem but you
don't know yet.

You are showing the old version of Windows because the computer hasn't
finished updating itself. That doesn't mean there is anything wrong.
You said the computer hasn't been used for a number of years.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 4:28 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
OK Gene, when you say start menu, are you refering to what happens
when I press the windows key and get a search box? I think that's
what folks are calling the start menu.

I've got a few things to try right now; so I'm fixed for a while. I'm
using the media creation tool to make an thunb drive update media.
When it's done, I'll take it downstairs and see if it updates the
computer.

Howard

On 6/1/2022 4:04 PM, Gene wrote:
But if it hasn't been used for years, maybe there is something
wrong. Have you checked updates to see if any are shown to be
installed?

Open the start menu, type update and press enter. Let the
information read. If you don't hear anything about updates, let us
know.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 3:51 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Thank you, yes. This was a computer in my wife's play room which
she seldom used; not for two or three years. I will look at your
instructions and see which way is easiest. And hopefully I can get
it done.

Howard



On 6/1/2022 3:11 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
If you are still all the way back on Windows 10 Version 1803 then
Windows Update has been broken on your machine for a very, very
long time indeed.

I suggest you immediately follow these instructions, which based
on what downloads now will get you to Windows 10 Version 21H2,
which is the latest:
*/Performing a Windows 10 or 11 Repair Install or Feature Update
Using the Windows ISO file/*
<https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1RZiHlLVtXewYBgoSv
JNm9_08hj1tALPK> or, if you prefer, go to the Windows 10 Download
Page
<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10?d2784
474-fdb0-4e9d-9e47-5e88c0e053ec=True>,
and trigger the Update Assistant using the Update Now button.

Something needs to be done, pronto, to fix your instance of
Windows 10 and get it back on track as far as feature updates go.
Version 1803 has been out of support for quite a while now.
--

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Re: Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

Ravindran V.S.
 

Is there a windows desktop version on the Google TTS to be used with screen readers?

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Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2022 11:59 AM
To: 高生旺 <coscell@...>
Cc: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

https://venturebeat.com/2019/08/16/google-open-sources-live-transcribes-speech-engine/

On Thu, 2 Jun 2022, 高生旺 wrote:

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 14:06:32 +0800 (CST)
From: 高生旺 <coscell@...>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

Open your Android phone to see.

On Thu, 2 Jun 2022, Akash Kakkar wrote:

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 11:19:01 +0530
From: Akash Kakkar <akash.diverse@...>
Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

What? open source? Who said it?

On 6/2/2022 11:12 AM, coscell@... wrote:
How about make support to google tts? Speech services by google is
open source.

On Thu, 2 Jun 2022, mattias wrote:

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 07:31:26 +0200
From: mattias <mjonsson1986@...>
Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1


You have espeak too

And maybe 4 years ago we had festival tts





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Till: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Ämne: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1



Hi all,



To my understanding, besides the native Windows OneCore, is RH
voice the

only available free option for TTS voices for NVDA?





Thanks.


























Automatic language switching feature in Tony's enhancements add-on isn't working

Denis Kolesov
 

Hello! I use microsoft onecore synthesizer. I want to use automatic language switching feature in Tony's enhancements addon to switch between english and russian. But I can't make it work. The appropriate checkbox is checked. What else should i do? I also want Zira voice for english language and Irina voice for russian language. But I can't figure out how to set it up.
NVDA version 2022.1.
Tony's enhancements version 1.14.


Re: NVDA freezes when editing a cell in Microsoft Excel

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


Here is a relevant part of the log from Luciano:


As we can see, between pressing Enter, after writing NVDA in cell A1, the last mention to the error is 6 seconds later...



IO - speech.speech.speak (14:12:09.573) - MainThread (15184):
Speaking ['idp.xlsx - Excel', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown (14:12:09.751) - MainThread (15184):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.update (14:12:09.777) - MainThread (15184):
Adding new treeInterceptor to runningTable: <NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBrowseModeTreeInterceptor object at 0x06F7D810>
IO - speech.speech.speak (14:12:09.781) - MainThread (15184):
Speaking ['Informações', 'tabela', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - speech.speech.speak (14:12:09.836) - MainThread (15184):
Speaking ['A1', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:12:12.016) - winInputHook (2060):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
DEBUG - IAccessibleHandler.internalWinEventHandler.winEventCallback (14:12:12.061) - MainThread (15184):
Dropping UIA proxied event for Excel7 window. WinEvent: EVENT_OBJECT_FOCUS, window 263700 (EXCEL7), objectID 1, childID 0, process 14408 (excel), thread 11664
IO - speech.speech.speak (14:12:12.218) - MainThread (15184):
Speaking ['A1', CancellableSpeech (still valid)]
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:12:14.256) - winInputHook (2060):
Input: kb(desktop):shift+n
DEBUGWARNING - eventHandler.executeEvent (14:12:14.357) - MainThread (15184):
error executing event: typedCharacter on <NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelCell object at 0x0703AA50> with extra args of {'ch': 'N'}
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 284, in executeEvent
  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in __init__
  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 107, in next
  File "NVDAObjects\window\excel.pyc", line 1437, in event_typedCharacter
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 42, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 146, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\window\excel.pyc", line 1420, in _get_states
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 42, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyc", line 146, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\window\excel.pyc", line 1227, in _get_excelCellInfo
  File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyc", line 60, in __call__
  File "comtypes\automation.pyc", line 729, in _invoke
  File "monkeyPatches\comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyc", line 32, in __call__
_ctypes.COMError: (-2147418111, 'A chamada foi rejeitada pelo chamado.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBrowseModeTreeInterceptor._get_isAlive (14:12:14.386) - MainThread (15184):
could not compare sheet names
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "NVDAObjects\window\excel.pyc", line 470, in _get_isAlive
  File "monkeyPatches\comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyc", line 87, in new__getattr__
  File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyc", line 168, in __getattr__
  File "comtypes\automation.pyc", line 729, in _invoke
  File "monkeyPatches\comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyc", line 32, in __call__
_ctypes.COMError: (-2147418111, 'A chamada foi rejeitada pelo chamado.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUG - treeInterceptorHandler.killTreeInterceptor (14:12:14.387) - MainThread (15184):
Killed treeInterceptor: <NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBrowseModeTreeInterceptor object at 0x06F7D810>
IO - speech.speech.speak (14:12:14.416) - MainThread (15184):
Speaking ['Barra de Fórmulas', 'edição', CancellableSpeech (still valid), 'N']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:12:14.736) - winInputHook (2060):
Input: kb(desktop):shift+v
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:12:15.088) - winInputHook (2060):
Input: kb(desktop):shift+d
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:12:15.312) - winInputHook (2060):
Input: kb(desktop):shift+a
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:12:16.039) - winInputHook (2060):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUG - IAccessibleHandler.internalWinEventHandler.winEventCallback (14:12:20.247) - MainThread (15184):
Dropping UIA proxied event for Excel7 window. WinEvent: EVENT_OBJECT_FOCUS, window 263700 (EXCEL7), objectID 50, childID 0, process 14408 (excel), thread 11664
DEBUG - IAccessibleHandler.internalWinEventHandler.winEventCallback (14:12:20.247) - MainThread (15184):
Dropping UIA proxied event for Excel7 window. WinEvent: EVENT_OBJECT_FOCUS, window 263700 (EXCEL7), objectID 51, childID 0, process 14408 (excel), thread 11664
DEBUG - IAccessibleHandler.internalWinEventHandler.winEventCallback (14:12:20.247) - MainThread (15184):
Dropping UIA proxied event for Excel7 window. WinEvent: EVENT_OBJECT_FOCUS, window 263700 (EXCEL7), objectID 52, childID 0, process 14408 (excel), thread 11664
DEBUG - IAccessibleHandler.internalWinEventHandler.winEventCallback (14:12:20.248) - MainThread (15184):
Dropping UIA proxied event for Excel7 window. WinEvent: EVENT_OBJECT_VALUECHANGE, window 263700 (EXCEL7), objectID 53, childID 0, process 14408 (excel), thread 11664
DEBUG - IAccessibleHandler.internalWinEventHandler.winEventCallback (14:12:22.625) - MainThread (15184):
Dropping UIA proxied event for Excel7 window. WinEvent: EVENT_OBJECT_VALUECHANGE, window 263700 (EXCEL7), objectID 57, childID 0, process 14408 (excel), thread 11664
DEBUG - IAccessibleHandler.internalWinEventHandler.winEventCallback (14:12:22.626) - MainThread (15184):
Dropping UIA proxied event for Excel7 window. WinEvent: EVENT_OBJECT_SELECTIONREMOVE, window 263700 (EXCEL7), objectID 58, childID 0, process 14408 (excel), thread 11664
DEBUG - IAccessibleHandler.internalWinEventHandler.winEventCallback (14:12:22.627) - MainThread (15184):
Dropping UIA proxied event for Excel7 window. WinEvent: EVENT_OBJECT_FOCUS, window 263700 (EXCEL7), objectID 59, childID 0, process 14408 (excel), thread 11664


Às 11:32 de 02/06/2022, Luciano de Souza escreveu:

I hadn't done it, but now I did.
No results. The problem is still the same.
Having run NVDA in debug mode, I got the log I send attached.
My boss wants the sheet ready, but he'll have to be patient.
With automatic calculation disabled, I can use Excel, but in a very bad way.


Em 02/06/2022 00:36, Luke Davis escreveu:
Have you tried changing the UIA setting for Excel, in NVDA Advanced settings?

Luke








Re: NVDA freezes when editing a cell in Microsoft Excel

Luciano de Souza
 

The spreadsheet has many data writen. It's not very simple. Dispite that, there are only a few calculations. I imagine they are not enough to cause such dramatic problem.
I have closed Excel and reopened it. In a new file, I have writen my name and pressed "enter". In fact, NVDA replies very well. For this reason, perhaps you have reason about the volume of data.
Yes, there are only few calculations, but the spreadsheet uses validation very much.
There are no less than a thousand cells with list validations. Dispite having few calculations, perhaps validations, used in a large ammount, harmes the spreadsheet performance.
If NVDA doesn't lead well with validations, I have a big problem since this is the spreadsheet of my real world.

Em 02/06/2022 00:19, Quentin Christensen escreveu:

Hi Luciano,

From what you describe, it sounds like the issue is occuring when the spreadsheet tries to update itself.  I have a large spreadsheet which does that and basically it does freeze Excel while it is calculating, so you can't do anything - and that happens even if NVDA is not running.  I appreciate you said your spreadsheet was not so large, so I'm not sure, although it does sound basically the same.

Quentin.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 12:13 AM Luciano de Souza <lucsouza1975@...> wrote:

Hello all,

When editing cells in Microsoft Excel, I’m facing a very serious slowness.

I type the content, I press “enter” and NVDA freezes.

Ten seconds later, the voice returns to normality.

It’s not a particular heavy worksheet, so the performance should be good.

Restarting NVDA in debug mode, I found a message saying that the gainFocus event failed.

The problems occurs in two machines:

·         The first one with Windows 10, Office 2019 e NVDA 2022-1;

·         The second one with Windows 10, Office 365 e NVDA 2022-1.

In both machine, I have tested also with NVDA 2020-3 with the same bad results.

I also ran the register fixer tool offered by NVDA.

The installed version, there’s no addons or customization in its settings.

Both machines have good performance when executing other tasks.

In Excel, I turned off the automatic calculation to attenuate the problem.

In fact, disabled the automatic calculation, the performance becomes adequate.

However, pressing F9 to calculate, the screen reader freezes again.

As mentioned, the file doesn’t have heavy formulas or a large amount of data.

I could not understand what is succeeding, so I ask you for a help.

I wish this message find everyone good and I thank for staying here.

 

Best regards,

Luciano de Souza



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Re: NVDA freezes when editing a cell in Microsoft Excel

Luciano de Souza
 

I hadn't done it, but now I did.
No results. The problem is still the same.
Having run NVDA in debug mode, I got the log I send attached.
My boss wants the sheet ready, but he'll have to be patient.
With automatic calculation disabled, I can use Excel, but in a very bad way.


Em 02/06/2022 00:36, Luke Davis escreveu:

Have you tried changing the UIA setting for Excel, in NVDA Advanced settings?

Luke





Re: NVDA failed to install

Jason Bratcher
 

I remember signing in being a secure screen, so definite yes here.
Jason Bratcher


Re: Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

Joshua Hendrickson
 

Hi guys. I don't think E-speak is all that bad. You can play with it
nowadays and some of the different voices aren't all that bad. It
does take some getting used to. If you want to be a bit weird, play
around with the pitch and inflection. Espeak can sound really weird
then. It does get annoying after the first few minutes, but it is a
bit fun.

On 6/2/22, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io
<bglists@...> wrote:
I use Espeak Quincy for menus and other navigational things, but more
natural sounding ones for reading long documents.
One thing that might be a nice add on would be the ability to save the
speach to a sound file like several stand alone programs are supposed to do,

but often are not very accessible.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "William" <xsuper.sillyx@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2022 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1


ah right, but espeak is too mechanical.


mattias 於 2/6/2022 13:31 寫道:

You have espeak too

And maybe 4 years ago we had festival tts

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Hi all,

To my understanding, besides the native Windows OneCore, is RH voice the

only available free option for TTS voices for NVDA?

Thanks.











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Re: Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

Brian's Mail list account
 

I use Espeak Quincy for menus and other navigational things, but more natural sounding ones for reading long documents.
One thing that might be a nice add on would be the ability to save the speach to a sound file like several stand alone programs are supposed to do, but often are not very accessible.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "William" <xsuper.sillyx@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2022 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1


ah right, but espeak is too mechanical.


mattias 於 2/6/2022 13:31 寫道:

You have espeak too

And maybe 4 years ago we had festival tts

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Hi all,

To my understanding, besides the native Windows OneCore, is RH voice the

only available free option for TTS voices for NVDA?

Thanks.





Re: Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

Brian's Mail list account
 

I do like some of the voices in Edge, but is there a way to duplicate those? They seem better than the Microsoft native ones to me.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2022 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1


How about make support to google tts? Speech services by google is open
source.

On Thu, 2 Jun 2022, mattias wrote:

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 07:31:26 +0200
From: mattias <mjonsson1986@...>
Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1


You have espeak too

And maybe 4 years ago we had festival tts





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Från: William
Skickat: den 2 juni 2022 06:30
Till: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Ämne: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1



Hi all,



To my understanding, besides the native Windows OneCore, is RH voice the

only available free option for TTS voices for NVDA?





Thanks.























Re: Old versions of add-ons

Brian's Mail list account
 

I think Svox Pico has been made to work now. Its actually the same voice used on many Samsung TVs.
Brian

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Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2022 12:20 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Old versions of add-ons


I admit it's been a while since I looked at the site, but last time I
did there was a short list of currently unsupported addons that work
with older versions on the NVDA website, but I can't remember where
that was and I think it was only voices. I remember seeing SVox Pico
there, which I used briefly several years ago.

On 6/1/22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
That's good. If that isn't well known, it should probably be publicized.

I keep old versions of add-ons I use in case they disappear. Its nice
to know they are still available.

Gene
Gene

On 6/1/2022 2:00 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
To my knowledge, the NVDA Add-Ons Directory
<https://nvda-addons.org/>(hosted by the Spanish-Speaking NVDA
Community Association) does not remove add-ons that are no longer
compatible with the latest version of NVDA. When you search they tell
you the range of NVDA releases, e.g., From NVDA 2014.1 up to 2022.1,
that the add-on(s) returned are each compatible with.

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Re: Old versions of add-ons

Brian's Mail list account
 

Yes one case in point is that for reasons I'll not go into here, I like to retain Goldwave 32 bit, but all the latest add ons are for the 64 bit, so I keep an older copy and install it on an older version of nvda portable for this reason. The one add on I'd like to see made 2022.1 ready is the sound schemes/3D sound one which I find aids me in knowing a bit more about physical screen layout, but the author has either moved his address, died or is not interested.
Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2022 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Old versions of add-ons


That's good. If that isn't well known, it should probably be publicized.

I keep old versions of add-ons I use in case they disappear. Its nice
to know they are still available.

Gene
Gene

On 6/1/2022 2:00 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
To my knowledge, the NVDA Add-Ons Directory
<https://nvda-addons.org/>(hosted by the Spanish-Speaking NVDA
Community Association) does not remove add-ons that are no longer
compatible with the latest version of NVDA. When you search they tell
you the range of NVDA releases, e.g., From NVDA 2014.1 up to 2022.1,
that the add-on(s) returned are each compatible with.

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beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily sharing or
accepting them./*

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Re: NVDA failed to install

Brian's Mail list account
 

I've also encountered UAC not being in focus, which you usually can remedy with alt tab or some other wheeze. This intermittent issue seems to date back to Windows 7, and may indeed by why we tend to disable it, which I know can be dangerous if you accidentally install a bad apple.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2022 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA failed to install


On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 07:42 PM, Luke Davis wrote:


This was his wife's computer, without NVDA on it.
-
I somehow forgot that he'd stated he'd removed an earlier version of NVDA before having tried to install the latest over it.

You're right that a screen-reader-less machine is an entirely different ball of wax. I thought I had remembered that NVDA was still on it, and that's entirely incorrect on my part.
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Re: NVDA failed to install

Brian's Mail list account
 

Yes but one needs to do that, at least at the start to see if that was the issue. Its no good just hand wringing if you don't try anything.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2022 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA failed to install


I really object to disabling UAC. While it can be defeated by some
malware, I don't know how much, I see no reason to disable a layer of
protection when all you have to do is issue the command alt y when UAC
comes up. Why disable a security utility when it is so easy to allow
programs to be installed? You are decreasing security for no advantage
that means anything.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 4:12 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi


If you do not want the UAC screen to come up when installing nvda and
some other programs he will need to do the following.

Press the windows key and in the search box type uac it should come up
with a suggestion press the enter key on it.

The next screen that comes up you will need to Tab until you hear the
slider it is set to 65 percent or around there change it to zero with
the arrow keys left or right then tab down to ok then press the enter
key.


It will reboot the pc if I remember right and the uac screen will not
come up again. It can be turned back on by doing the same process
except in the slider change from zero back to 65 percent or what ever
it is.

hope it helps.


Gene nz


On 2/06/2022 9:04 am, Gene wrote:
But if it hasn't been used for years, maybe there is something wrong.
Have you checked updates to see if any are shown to be installed?

Open the start menu, type update and press enter. Let the
information read. If you don't hear anything about updates, let us
know.

Gene

On 6/1/2022 3:51 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Thank you, yes. This was a computer in my wife's play room which
she seldom used; not for two or three years. I will look at your
instructions and see which way is easiest. And hopefully I can get
it done.

Howard



On 6/1/2022 3:11 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
If you are still all the way back on Windows 10 Version 1803 then
Windows Update has been broken on your machine for a very, very
long time indeed.

I suggest you immediately follow these instructions, which based on
what downloads now will get you to Windows 10 Version 21H2, which
is the latest:
*/Performing a Windows 10 or 11 Repair Install or Feature Update
Using the Windows ISO file/*
<https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1RZiHlLVtXewYBgoSvJNm9_08hj1tALPK>
or, if you prefer, go to the Windows 10 Download Page
<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10?d2784474-fdb0-4e9d-9e47-5e88c0e053ec=True>,
and trigger the Update Assistant using the Update Now button.

Something needs to be done, pronto, to fix your instance of Windows
10 and get it back on track as far as feature updates go. Version
1803 has been out of support for quite a while now.
--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*/Tolerance is the positive and cordial effort to understand
another's beliefs, practices, and habits without necessarily
sharing or accepting them./*

~ Joshua Liebman

















Re: NVDA failed to install

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Well here I have no issue installing the latest version on windows 7, so this may well be a red herring. I suspect that the way the version of Windows is set up or some protection software is set up is stopping it from working.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2022 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA failed to install


Hi, Howard,

What version of windows are you using? If it's a much older version, then you'd have to use a much older version of NVDA.

Hope this helps.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 11:36 AM
To: NVDA <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA failed to install

Starting to use a computer that has been out of service for two or three years.

Started by removing the NVDA that was on there; might have been version 19.2. Now tried to install the latest; 22.1. Get to the point of "continue button and it says "secure desktop" and locks up. I press escape and it says "NVDA failed".

I tried to find where I could turn off that "secure desktop" But I couldn't find it. Now I don't have NVDA on there and I have to use a portable version on a USB thumb drive.

Ideas anyone? Thanks.
Howard


Re: Can NVDA declare contains Data Validation in Excel cells?

Rowen Cary
 

Hello,

Thanks Quentin, I might create a feature request for this,

On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 11:33 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

If you have an "input message" set, then NVDA will read it when the cell gets focus. If you have the data validation set to a list, then it will read that there is a submenu when you land on it.

If you have an error message set and try to set invalid data, then that will come up as an error dialog, and NVDA will read that when it appears.

If you don't have an input message or list set, then there is no visual indication that the cell contains data validation. I just tested and yes, Narrator will report "contains data validation" on such a cell.

My feeling personally is that if Microsoft want users to know that then Excel should at least report it maybe in the status bar, but do feel free to create an issue for it.

Quentin.

On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 1:04 AM Rowen Cary wrote:

Hi All,

As the title describes, when a cell contains data validation will NVDA users be able to get that information? I use arrows to navigate in cells NVDA doesn't report this, however Narrator reports "contains data validation", I also pressed NVDA+F to try to get that information without success. If NVDA doesn't have that feature then I'd like to know if anyone has made a feature request in Github.

Thanks

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We have Indonesian and Malay, so how about the Philippines?

Ben J. Bloomgren
 

Hello, all,

Is there a TTS engine for NVDA which supports the Filipino/Tagalog language? I know that the Google TTS offers it.

Ben


Re: Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

coscell@...
 

On Thu, 2 Jun 2022, 高生旺 wrote:

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 14:06:32 +0800 (CST)
From: 高生旺 <coscell@...>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1
Open your Android phone to see.

On Thu, 2 Jun 2022, Akash Kakkar wrote:

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 11:19:01 +0530
From: Akash Kakkar <akash.diverse@...>
Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1
What? open source? Who said it?
On 6/2/2022 11:12 AM, coscell@... wrote:
How about make support to google tts? Speech services by google is open source.
On Thu, 2 Jun 2022, mattias wrote:

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 07:31:26 +0200
From: mattias <mjonsson1986@...>
Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1
You have espeak too
And maybe 4 years ago we had festival tts
Skickades från E-post för Windows
Från: William
Skickat: den 2 juni 2022 06:30
Till: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Ämne: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1
Hi all,
To my understanding, besides the native Windows OneCore, is RH voice the
only available free option for TTS voices for NVDA?
Thanks.


Re: Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

coscell@...
 

Open your Android phone to see.

On Thu, 2 Jun 2022, Akash Kakkar wrote:

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 11:19:01 +0530
From: Akash Kakkar <akash.diverse@...>
Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1
What? open source? Who said it?

On 6/2/2022 11:12 AM, coscell@... wrote:
How about make support to google tts? Speech services by google is open source.
On Thu, 2 Jun 2022, mattias wrote:

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 07:31:26 +0200
From: mattias <mjonsson1986@...>
Reply-To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1
You have espeak too
And maybe 4 years ago we had festival tts
Skickades från E-post för Windows
Från: William
Skickat: den 2 juni 2022 06:30
Till: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Ämne: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1
Hi all,
To my understanding, besides the native Windows OneCore, is RH voice the
only available free option for TTS voices for NVDA?
Thanks.




Re: Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

William
 

ah right, but espeak is too mechanical.


mattias 於 2/6/2022 13:31 寫道:

You have espeak too

And maybe 4 years ago we had festival tts

 

 

Skickades från E-post för Windows

 

Från: William
Skickat: den 2 juni 2022 06:30
Till: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Ämne: [nvda] Available free TTS that support NVDA 2022.1

 

Hi all,

 

To my understanding, besides the native Windows OneCore, is RH voice the

only available free option for TTS voices for NVDA?

 

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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