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Re: Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

Keao Wright <keaow@...>
 

Hello Gean and all.

I got it fixed!

Turns out I had the thread view unchecked.

Now the add on can see the columns.


On 6/12/2022 3:22 PM, Gene wrote:

That's right.  I was thinking about the other add-on, which is a Mozilla add-on.  It allows first letter navigation in the folders tree view and it is included in the copy of the program I sent.

You could try uninstalling and installing Thunderbird again and the NVDA add-on, but just using the portable version would, I think, be a better solution.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 7:44 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Gene. You mention an addon that's included with the portable Thunderbird, which app is that? Mozilla Apps enhancements is an NVDA addon, not a Thunderbird addon, so not sure if that's the one you're talking about. My friend is on the list and watching this thread, so we'll see if she has any luck with it.

Shawn Klein

On 6/12/2022 5:46 PM, Gene wrote:
Here is the correct link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mwy1mhpg418d0a6/Thunderbird%20Portable%20customized%20for%20use%20by%20others.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 5:22 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:
I sent the wrong link.  I'll send the properly modified version to Dropbox and send the correct link later today.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:46 PM, Gene wrote:
Since I don't know what is causing the problem, there are two things I will suggest, though I don't know if either will help.  I am confident my second suggestion will and I don't know about the first, but I consider the first to be an inferior choice.  You might consider running the portable version for the reasons I give below, as well.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the program is one and the other is trying Thunderbird portable. 

There are one or two minor or very minor things you can't do with the portable version but in general, it does everything the installed version does.  In addition, if the program ever becomes corrupted, you can have a back up copy and just delete the one you are using, then copy the backup to the location where you keep the one you use.

And you can use the program from an external drive or copy it to any computer you wish and use it.

Here is a link to download an old version of the program with the add-on already installed and the from line already displaying at the top.  The program will automatically update after it has been placed on the machine but even if the add-on doesn't work, the program may need nothing changed.  I expect the add-on to work, however, since it did in this copy on my machine.
Its a portable program so unzip the files wherever you want and, when in the folder, type t to get to Thunderbird.exe.  Press enter to run the program.  You can also send a shortcut to Thunderbird.exe to the desktop and create a short cut command to run it that way if you wish.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/esnytwkxvq2grz0/ThunderbirdPortable.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:00 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:
Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein











Re: Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

Gene
 

It doesn't matter ifit is old.  The add-on works properly as far back as a 60.x version.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 7:50 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Brian. The problem is, despite being in the Thunderbird window with the keyboard cursor on the message list, the dialogue would not open, instead saying no columns available. One thing I forgot to do is make double sure she had the right version of Thunderbird and didn't accidentally get an old one. I have 91.10.0 and the columns dialogue works fine for me on my system with NVDA+H.

Shawn Klein

On 6/12/2022 4:51 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I don't know if the following will be of any help, but since it's in my stash of tutorials, it can't hurt:

 

Rearranging the Column Order in Thunderbird Using the NVDA Mozilla Apps Enhancement Add-On

The following presumes you have already installed the previously noted Mozilla Apps Enhancements add on, have restarted NVDA, and have Thunderbird up and running with focus on the Thunderbird window.

1. Hit NVDA+H.  A dialog entitled, Manage columns, appears.  That dialog is composed of a list of the columns in the order they are currently being displayed from left to right, with the leftmost column at the top of the list.

2.  The next thing I suggest you do, but this step is optional, is to hit ALT+O, which will cause the list of Thunderbird columns, in Thunderbird itself, to be displayed with a checkbox in front of those columns you wish to have displayed, and nothing (unchecked) for those you want to hide.  It's worth down arrowing through that column list and deciding if there are any currently checked (displayed) columns you'd like to hide, and uncheck those, and vice versa.  Hitting ESC closes the Thunderbird column selection process and throws you back to the Mozilla Apps Enhancements dialog.

3.  Back in the dialog column list, gain focus on the column that you would like to move.  If you want it to be to the left of where it is (and that means it would be announced first), then hit ALT+U to move it up by one position.  Repeat the ALT+U as many times as necessary to get it where you want it.  If you want this column to be announced later than it currently is (moving it to the right/down the list), hit ALT+D as many times as necessary to get it where you want it relative to other columns.

4.  Review your column order by going to the top of the list and down arrowing through it so you know what the "First announced to last announced" order is.  If you find a mistake, then repeat step 3, moving the column or columns to where you want them.

5. Navigate to the Close button for the dialog and activate it.  You're done.

--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

        ~ Dorothy Nevill



Re: Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

Gene
 

That's right.  I was thinking about the other add-on, which is a Mozilla add-on.  It allows first letter navigation in the folders tree view and it is included in the copy of the program I sent.

You could try uninstalling and installing Thunderbird again and the NVDA add-on, but just using the portable version would, I think, be a better solution.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 7:44 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Thanks Gene. You mention an addon that's included with the portable Thunderbird, which app is that? Mozilla Apps enhancements is an NVDA addon, not a Thunderbird addon, so not sure if that's the one you're talking about. My friend is on the list and watching this thread, so we'll see if she has any luck with it.

Shawn Klein

On 6/12/2022 5:46 PM, Gene wrote:
Here is the correct link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mwy1mhpg418d0a6/Thunderbird%20Portable%20customized%20for%20use%20by%20others.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 5:22 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:
I sent the wrong link.  I'll send the properly modified version to Dropbox and send the correct link later today.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:46 PM, Gene wrote:
Since I don't know what is causing the problem, there are two things I will suggest, though I don't know if either will help.  I am confident my second suggestion will and I don't know about the first, but I consider the first to be an inferior choice.  You might consider running the portable version for the reasons I give below, as well.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the program is one and the other is trying Thunderbird portable. 

There are one or two minor or very minor things you can't do with the portable version but in general, it does everything the installed version does.  In addition, if the program ever becomes corrupted, you can have a back up copy and just delete the one you are using, then copy the backup to the location where you keep the one you use.

And you can use the program from an external drive or copy it to any computer you wish and use it.

Here is a link to download an old version of the program with the add-on already installed and the from line already displaying at the top.  The program will automatically update after it has been placed on the machine but even if the add-on doesn't work, the program may need nothing changed.  I expect the add-on to work, however, since it did in this copy on my machine.
Its a portable program so unzip the files wherever you want and, when in the folder, type t to get to Thunderbird.exe.  Press enter to run the program.  You can also send a shortcut to Thunderbird.exe to the desktop and create a short cut command to run it that way if you wish.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/esnytwkxvq2grz0/ThunderbirdPortable.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:00 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:
Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein











Re: Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

Shawn
 

Thanks Brian. The problem is, despite being in the Thunderbird window with the keyboard cursor on the message list, the dialogue would not open, instead saying no columns available. One thing I forgot to do is make double sure she had the right version of Thunderbird and didn't accidentally get an old one. I have 91.10.0 and the columns dialogue works fine for me on my system with NVDA+H.

Shawn Klein

On 6/12/2022 4:51 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

I don't know if the following will be of any help, but since it's in my stash of tutorials, it can't hurt:

 

Rearranging the Column Order in Thunderbird Using the NVDA Mozilla Apps Enhancement Add-On

The following presumes you have already installed the previously noted Mozilla Apps Enhancements add on, have restarted NVDA, and have Thunderbird up and running with focus on the Thunderbird window.

1. Hit NVDA+H.  A dialog entitled, Manage columns, appears.  That dialog is composed of a list of the columns in the order they are currently being displayed from left to right, with the leftmost column at the top of the list.

2.  The next thing I suggest you do, but this step is optional, is to hit ALT+O, which will cause the list of Thunderbird columns, in Thunderbird itself, to be displayed with a checkbox in front of those columns you wish to have displayed, and nothing (unchecked) for those you want to hide.  It's worth down arrowing through that column list and deciding if there are any currently checked (displayed) columns you'd like to hide, and uncheck those, and vice versa.  Hitting ESC closes the Thunderbird column selection process and throws you back to the Mozilla Apps Enhancements dialog.

3.  Back in the dialog column list, gain focus on the column that you would like to move.  If you want it to be to the left of where it is (and that means it would be announced first), then hit ALT+U to move it up by one position.  Repeat the ALT+U as many times as necessary to get it where you want it.  If you want this column to be announced later than it currently is (moving it to the right/down the list), hit ALT+D as many times as necessary to get it where you want it relative to other columns.

4.  Review your column order by going to the top of the list and down arrowing through it so you know what the "First announced to last announced" order is.  If you find a mistake, then repeat step 3, moving the column or columns to where you want them.

5. Navigate to the Close button for the dialog and activate it.  You're done.

--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

        ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

Shawn
 

Thanks Gene. You mention an addon that's included with the portable Thunderbird, which app is that? Mozilla Apps enhancements is an NVDA addon, not a Thunderbird addon, so not sure if that's the one you're talking about. My friend is on the list and watching this thread, so we'll see if she has any luck with it.

Shawn Klein

On 6/12/2022 5:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Here is the correct link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mwy1mhpg418d0a6/Thunderbird%20Portable%20customized%20for%20use%20by%20others.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 5:22 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:
I sent the wrong link.  I'll send the properly modified version to Dropbox and send the correct link later today.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:46 PM, Gene wrote:
Since I don't know what is causing the problem, there are two things I will suggest, though I don't know if either will help.  I am confident my second suggestion will and I don't know about the first, but I consider the first to be an inferior choice.  You might consider running the portable version for the reasons I give below, as well.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the program is one and the other is trying Thunderbird portable. 

There are one or two minor or very minor things you can't do with the portable version but in general, it does everything the installed version does.  In addition, if the program ever becomes corrupted, you can have a back up copy and just delete the one you are using, then copy the backup to the location where you keep the one you use.

And you can use the program from an external drive or copy it to any computer you wish and use it.

Here is a link to download an old version of the program with the add-on already installed and the from line already displaying at the top.  The program will automatically update after it has been placed on the machine but even if the add-on doesn't work, the program may need nothing changed.  I expect the add-on to work, however, since it did in this copy on my machine.
Its a portable program so unzip the files wherever you want and, when in the folder, type t to get to Thunderbird.exe.  Press enter to run the program.  You can also send a shortcut to Thunderbird.exe to the desktop and create a short cut command to run it that way if you wish.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/esnytwkxvq2grz0/ThunderbirdPortable.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:00 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:
Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein










Re: Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

Gene
 

Here is the correct link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mwy1mhpg418d0a6/Thunderbird%20Portable%20customized%20for%20use%20by%20others.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 5:22 PM, Gene via groups.io wrote:

I sent the wrong link.  I'll send the properly modified version to Dropbox and send the correct link later today.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:46 PM, Gene wrote:
Since I don't know what is causing the problem, there are two things I will suggest, though I don't know if either will help.  I am confident my second suggestion will and I don't know about the first, but I consider the first to be an inferior choice.  You might consider running the portable version for the reasons I give below, as well.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the program is one and the other is trying Thunderbird portable. 

There are one or two minor or very minor things you can't do with the portable version but in general, it does everything the installed version does.  In addition, if the program ever becomes corrupted, you can have a back up copy and just delete the one you are using, then copy the backup to the location where you keep the one you use.

And you can use the program from an external drive or copy it to any computer you wish and use it.

Here is a link to download an old version of the program with the add-on already installed and the from line already displaying at the top.  The program will automatically update after it has been placed on the machine but even if the add-on doesn't work, the program may need nothing changed.  I expect the add-on to work, however, since it did in this copy on my machine.
Its a portable program so unzip the files wherever you want and, when in the folder, type t to get to Thunderbird.exe.  Press enter to run the program.  You can also send a shortcut to Thunderbird.exe to the desktop and create a short cut command to run it that way if you wish.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/esnytwkxvq2grz0/ThunderbirdPortable.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:00 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:
Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein










Re: Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

Gene
 

I sent the wrong link.  I'll send the properly modified version to Dropbox and send the correct link later today.

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:46 PM, Gene wrote:

Since I don't know what is causing the problem, there are two things I will suggest, though I don't know if either will help.  I am confident my second suggestion will and I don't know about the first, but I consider the first to be an inferior choice.  You might consider running the portable version for the reasons I give below, as well.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the program is one and the other is trying Thunderbird portable. 

There are one or two minor or very minor things you can't do with the portable version but in general, it does everything the installed version does.  In addition, if the program ever becomes corrupted, you can have a back up copy and just delete the one you are using, then copy the backup to the location where you keep the one you use.

And you can use the program from an external drive or copy it to any computer you wish and use it.

Here is a link to download an old version of the program with the add-on already installed and the from line already displaying at the top.  The program will automatically update after it has been placed on the machine but even if the add-on doesn't work, the program may need nothing changed.  I expect the add-on to work, however, since it did in this copy on my machine.
Its a portable program so unzip the files wherever you want and, when in the folder, type t to get to Thunderbird.exe.  Press enter to run the program.  You can also send a shortcut to Thunderbird.exe to the desktop and create a short cut command to run it that way if you wish.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/esnytwkxvq2grz0/ThunderbirdPortable.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:00 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:
Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein









Re: Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

 

I don't know if the following will be of any help, but since it's in my stash of tutorials, it can't hurt:

 

Rearranging the Column Order in Thunderbird Using the NVDA Mozilla Apps Enhancement Add-On

The following presumes you have already installed the previously noted Mozilla Apps Enhancements add on, have restarted NVDA, and have Thunderbird up and running with focus on the Thunderbird window.

1. Hit NVDA+H.  A dialog entitled, Manage columns, appears.  That dialog is composed of a list of the columns in the order they are currently being displayed from left to right, with the leftmost column at the top of the list.

2.  The next thing I suggest you do, but this step is optional, is to hit ALT+O, which will cause the list of Thunderbird columns, in Thunderbird itself, to be displayed with a checkbox in front of those columns you wish to have displayed, and nothing (unchecked) for those you want to hide.  It's worth down arrowing through that column list and deciding if there are any currently checked (displayed) columns you'd like to hide, and uncheck those, and vice versa.  Hitting ESC closes the Thunderbird column selection process and throws you back to the Mozilla Apps Enhancements dialog.

3.  Back in the dialog column list, gain focus on the column that you would like to move.  If you want it to be to the left of where it is (and that means it would be announced first), then hit ALT+U to move it up by one position.  Repeat the ALT+U as many times as necessary to get it where you want it.  If you want this column to be announced later than it currently is (moving it to the right/down the list), hit ALT+D as many times as necessary to get it where you want it relative to other columns.

4.  Review your column order by going to the top of the list and down arrowing through it so you know what the "First announced to last announced" order is.  If you find a mistake, then repeat step 3, moving the column or columns to where you want them.

5. Navigate to the Close button for the dialog and activate it.  You're done.

--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

        ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

Gene
 

Since I don't know what is causing the problem, there are two things I will suggest, though I don't know if either will help.  I am confident my second suggestion will and I don't know about the first, but I consider the first to be an inferior choice.  You might consider running the portable version for the reasons I give below, as well.

Uninstalling and reinstalling the program is one and the other is trying Thunderbird portable. 

There are one or two minor or very minor things you can't do with the portable version but in general, it does everything the installed version does.  In addition, if the program ever becomes corrupted, you can have a back up copy and just delete the one you are using, then copy the backup to the location where you keep the one you use.

And you can use the program from an external drive or copy it to any computer you wish and use it.

Here is a link to download an old version of the program with the add-on already installed and the from line already displaying at the top.  The program will automatically update after it has been placed on the machine but even if the add-on doesn't work, the program may need nothing changed.  I expect the add-on to work, however, since it did in this copy on my machine.
Its a portable program so unzip the files wherever you want and, when in the folder, type t to get to Thunderbird.exe.  Press enter to run the program.  You can also send a shortcut to Thunderbird.exe to the desktop and create a short cut command to run it that way if you wish.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/esnytwkxvq2grz0/ThunderbirdPortable.zip?dl=1

Gene

On 6/12/2022 4:00 PM, Shawn via groups.io wrote:

Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein








Need help with Thunderbird and Mozilla Apps Enhancements

Shawn
 

Hi, I just installed Thunderbird yesterday, got the afore-mentioned addon, and had no problems moving columns opening the dialogue with NVDA+H, though I got the no column headers found error once until I made sure I was in the message list. Today a friend decided to get Thunderbird as well, just installed the addon, and gets the message column headers not found. I remoted in and tried matching some of her view menu settings to mine, but still can't get the column headers dialogue on her machine. Being in the message list or even in a specific message doesn't help. Rebooting NVDA and Thunderbird didn't help. We're both using the latest Thunderbird and NVDA with Windows 10. Any settings she needs to change to get this to work? She wants to move correspondents to the top of the list just like I did. Thanks.

Shawn Klein


Re: help with the volume mixer on windows 10

darkmad88@...
 

This setting is located not in Volume Mixer, you mist go to sound settings in Settings appin Win10, and then find something like "App volume and device preferences@, in this window you will have a list of currently running apps for which you can individually set input and output device and set corresponding sound level. Yes, you need to play some sound using desired app and keep it running before doing this operation. Also, there can be a difference where to find this settings in different builds of Win10.


Re: help with the volume mixer on windows 10

 

Per Windows 10,
See my message about Settings
System
Sound
App Volume and Advanced Preferences.

Per Win11,
That's changed to
System in the first list
Space/Enter
then in the second tabbed-to list, tap Sound
Space/Enter
shift+tab to a More button in the Volume mixer App volume mix, app input & output devices group and activate it.
Jason Bratcher


Re: help with the volume mixer on windows 10

 

FooBar2000 and VLCMediaPlayer are two such system tray applications.

Jason Bratcher


Re: help with the volume mixer on windows 10

 

If you're looking for a quick volume adjustment of an overall destination's master volume
(or individual app),
use the SndVol command in the Run dialog box.
See Settings
System
Sound
App Volume and Advanced Preferences
to specifically delegate how audio is routed on your system.

Jason Bratcher


Re: help with the volume mixer on windows 10

 

I ponder if they're trying to change the device the app's audio is going through?
They CanNot Do That From The Volume Applit.
You Must Go to:
Settings (fastest way is Windows+I)
highlight and Space/Enter on these categories:
System
Sound
tab/shift+tab to the App Volume and Advanced Preferences link and activate it.
(Shift+Tab will be faster because this link is towards the end of the page, not the beginning).
Once here, a list of all apps that are playing/or recently played audio appear.
Tab a few times to that list,
arrow down to the offender you'd like to change,
tap Space/Enter to open its section,
tab over to the Output Device droplist and choose the new destination you'd like to use.
Just Alt+F4 when done here.
Jason Bratcher


Re: help with firefox and NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

Have you submitted a suggestion on Firefox's bug tracker? I hear they are ok with fixing issues like this.  I hardly use FF now a days. Have it just in case though.

 

Good luck.

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Sarah Alawami, owner of TFfP. We are also on lbry as well.

 

Stay in touch with us via our discord. This is an easier way to both contact us, and get to know your fellow listeners.

 

 

 

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Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 6:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [nvda] help with firefox and NVDA

 

Yes I do feel that Firefox needs to work on the accessibility of this section, as its not intuitive at all and its so easy to accidentally input something you do not really want to.

You almost need a kind of toolbar for this, or better still a proper menu for these options. Brian

 

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 1:14 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] help with firefox and NVDA

 

 

> Thanks a million Bob. This solved the problem when nothing else worked.

> I truly appreciate it.

> Cheers,

> Ibrahim

> On 6/11/2022 7:03 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:

>> When you press F6, then shift tab until you hear a message about

>> trackers. When you get to that message, press right arrow twice, and

>> you should get to the manager sharing settings button. From there,

>> press either space or enter, and you will see a block button and an

>> allow button.

>>> On Jun 11, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo

>>> <abedrabboibrahim@...> wrote:

>>> 

>>> Hello folks,

>>> 

>>> I am trying to use the whatsapp web using the latest version of

>>> firefox on a laptop running windows 10, last update. NVDA is my only

>>> screen reader. I am using NVDA 2021.3.

>>> 

>>> When I try to send a voice message on whatsapp web using fire fox, I

>>> get this message:

>>> 

>>> "Allow microphone

>>> To record Voice Messages, WhatsApp needs access to your computer’s

>>> microphone. Click  in the URL bar and set “Use the Microphone” to

>>> “Allow.”

>>> OK, GOT IT"

>>> 

>>> When I hit f6 to go to the URL bar I only find the whatsapp web

>>> address, but no buttons to adjust the setttings for my microphone

>>> there. What is the NVDA command to reach to this area when I get

>>> such a message on firefox?

>>> 

>>> I hope those who use firefox and NVDA can help me with this one.

>>> 

>>> Regards,

>>> 

>>> Ibrahim

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

>

 

 

 

 

 


Re: help with the volume mixer on windows 10

Sarah k Alawami
 

Change via the split button. There is a tool bar you can interact with. That will change  the whole system.  You can also do this via the game bar’s sound panel, and via sound mixer

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Darren Harris via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 2:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help with the volume mixer on windows 10

 

Butg when I type sndvol yes I can change the volumes of individual apps but I can’t change the soundcard. There is a button that used to work next to the volume of each app that you used to be able to hit spacebar on and you could change the sound in there but for some reason it’s not coming up. If I press enter on it then it just shuts the app.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 12 June 2022 04:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help with the volume mixer on windows 10

 

Yes, with some exceptions. I use apps that are not open but are in the system tray and they play sound. The nly way for me to get to them is via the volume mixer like someone on here suggested. So again, depends on the situation and your SOP.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 7:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help with the volume mixer on windows 10

 

typing sndvol, as I described, opens a utility that is identified as volume mixer.  I'm not sure what else people are discussing but in the volume mixer, any opened application that produces audio will be there if the application is opened and if it has played audio and remains opened after that, even if it isn't playing audio at the time.

Gene


Re: whatsapp, Version: 1.1 by Gerardo Kessler <reaperyotrasyerbas@gmail.com>

Sarah k Alawami
 

I had a set of what's app keys, in word format. Search for it using the list archives as I can't find it, unless that link expired by now. I upload using a service in which links expire after 7 days.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 12:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] whatsapp, Version: 1.1 by Gerardo Kessler <reaperyotrasyerbas@...>

Hi all, do anyone knows about the above add-on, what does it do, and does it complement the existing add-on "Whatsapp desktop" by the same author?

This is what I can gather from the "help" and I translate it from Spanish in Google as follows:

Plugin that renames unlabeled buttons, adds keyboard shortcuts for main application functions, and focus functions for better interaction with the interface.

It will be very good if someone can provide the hotkeys too. Thanks.


Re: help with firefox and NVDA

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Yes I do feel that Firefox needs to work on the accessibility of this section, as its not intuitive at all and its so easy to accidentally input something you do not really want to.
You almost need a kind of toolbar for this, or better still a proper menu for these options. Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ibrahim Abedrabbo" <abedrabboibrahim@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2022 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help with firefox and NVDA


Thanks a million Bob. This solved the problem when nothing else worked.

I truly appreciate it.

Cheers,

Ibrahim

On 6/11/2022 7:03 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
When you press F6, then shift tab until you hear a message about trackers. When you get to that message, press right arrow twice, and you should get to the manager sharing settings button. From there, press either space or enter, and you will see a block button and an allow button.
On Jun 11, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Ibrahim Abedrabbo <abedrabboibrahim@...> wrote:

Hello folks,

I am trying to use the whatsapp web using the latest version of firefox on a laptop running windows 10, last update. NVDA is my only screen reader. I am using NVDA 2021.3.

When I try to send a voice message on whatsapp web using fire fox, I get this message:

"Allow microphone
To record Voice Messages, WhatsApp needs access to your computer’s microphone. Click in the URL bar and set “Use the Microphone” to “Allow.”
OK, GOT IT"

When I hit f6 to go to the URL bar I only find the whatsapp web address, but no buttons to adjust the setttings for my microphone there. What is the NVDA command to reach to this area when I get such a message on firefox?

I hope those who use firefox and NVDA can help me with this one.

Regards,

Ibrahim









Re: Does LibreOffice work with NVDA?

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I tend to only use Writer, but its stubborn tendency to stop reading on say all when it encounters blank lines is very irritating.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...>
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Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Does LibreOffice work with NVDA?


The answer to that question, regardless of screen reader, is, "Yes, but it is not as reliably accessible as Microsoft Office."

The folks at LibreOffice seem to be serious about improving accessibility where it's lacking, and there has been a recent flurry of messages on their accessibility mailing list from developers.
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The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

~ Dorothy Nevill

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