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Re: NVDA is not reading out buttons in Chrome browser

Gene
 

I was responding to Sarah's comment about how she updates Chrome.  she gave a link from which she evidently manually installs Chrome over itself perhaps every  few weeks.

Gene

On 6/18/2022 11:07 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 11:32 AM, Gene wrote:
You don't need to update in that way.  Chrome-based browsers are supposed to automatically update.
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True.

Just to be clear, though, the OP reported a 32-bit version in use.  Even with the subsequent report regarding the same behavior on 64-bit, it still makes sense to use the 64-bit version on 64-bit hardware when that's what has been installing by default for some time now.  It's a mystery to me how 32-bit Chrome landed on a 64-bit box.

I haven't manually updated any browser in ages now, unless you count my relaunching the browser when it tells me I need to relaunch to have the update apply.  They all are good about their own care and feeding.
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Re: NVDA is not reading out buttons in Chrome browser

 

On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 11:32 AM, Gene wrote:
You don't need to update in that way.  Chrome-based browsers are supposed to automatically update.
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True.

Just to be clear, though, the OP reported a 32-bit version in use.  Even with the subsequent report regarding the same behavior on 64-bit, it still makes sense to use the 64-bit version on 64-bit hardware when that's what has been installing by default for some time now.  It's a mystery to me how 32-bit Chrome landed on a 64-bit box.

I haven't manually updated any browser in ages now, unless you count my relaunching the browser when it tells me I need to relaunch to have the update apply.  They all are good about their own care and feeding.
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Re: NVDA issue with visual studio 2022 parameter help

Luke Robinett
 

2022

On Jun 18, 2022, at 8:42 AM, Akash Kakkar <akash.diverse@...> wrote:

Hey Luke,

Which version you are using of VS?


On 6/18/2022 9:01 PM, Luke Robinett wrote:
First, good news is that unlike prior versions of visual studio, NVDA now works properly when navigating suggestion lists in the code editor. Previously it would read the entire line of code every time you move from one selection to the next, but now it only reads the selected item.

There is another issue, however. I will be typing a line of code and eventually NVDA will start saying “parameter help, parameter help, parameter help” over and over every time I move the cursor left or right or type a key. The only way to get it to stop doing this is to press escape and then arrow away from that line of code and back again. This is a problem because ironically, NVDA repeating “parameter help” is making it so I can’t hear the actual parameter help. Lol.

Before I place a bug ticket I just thought I’d see if there’s some setting I can adjust to perhaps mitigate this issue. Let me know if my explanation didn’t make sense and I can add clarifying details. All the usual stuff… Latest versions of windows, NVDA, visual studio blah blah blah. Thank you






Re: NVDA is not reading out buttons in Chrome browser

Nayana Lakhwani
 

Hi Brian,

I have tried with 64 bit version of Chrome as well, behaviour is same on that also 

Thanks
Nayana Lakhwani

On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, 8:21 PM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
The first thing I'd try is uninstalling Chrome 32-bit and installing Chrome 64-bit.   All of my machines that have 64-bit hardware have 64-bit Chrome (and all Chromium-based browsers) on them.  I didn't even have to specify when I ran the Chrome installer online, it detected 64-bit hardware and installed the 64-bit version.
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Re: NVDA issue with visual studio 2022 parameter help

Akash Kakkar
 

Hey Luke,

Which version you are using of VS?

On 6/18/2022 9:01 PM, Luke Robinett wrote:
First, good news is that unlike prior versions of visual studio, NVDA now works properly when navigating suggestion lists in the code editor. Previously it would read the entire line of code every time you move from one selection to the next, but now it only reads the selected item.

There is another issue, however. I will be typing a line of code and eventually NVDA will start saying “parameter help, parameter help, parameter help” over and over every time I move the cursor left or right or type a key. The only way to get it to stop doing this is to press escape and then arrow away from that line of code and back again. This is a problem because ironically, NVDA repeating “parameter help” is making it so I can’t hear the actual parameter help. Lol.

Before I place a bug ticket I just thought I’d see if there’s some setting I can adjust to perhaps mitigate this issue. Let me know if my explanation didn’t make sense and I can add clarifying details. All the usual stuff… Latest versions of windows, NVDA, visual studio blah blah blah. Thank you



Re: Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has?

Luke Robinett
 

Running windows 10 and NVDA here and it does that for me automatically. I don’t even think I chose that setting when I installed it. Your example is good. Say you are reviewing changes for a poll request so you get the repeated less than, greater than and equal signs. It says the number followed by the symbol, such as “seven less than.”

On Jun 16, 2022, at 4:49 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@...> wrote:

Which is quite bad, because what if you get the string 9= in a file, maybe for programming?

It should say Equals repeats nine times.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: 22 May 2022 08:51
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Does NVDA have this feature that Window-eyes has?

NVDA says the number then the symbol, ie, if I write 9 consecutive equal signs, NVDA says 9 equals.

On 5/22/22, Sim Kah Yong <simkahyong@...> wrote:
Hi all, I just received an email from Amazon and it contains a string
of "equal sign" (about 22) in part of the email. Window-eyes will read
"equal, equal, repeated 22 times".

NVDA and JAWS will read 22 times of the "equal sign". Obviously,
Window-eyes is is the better option here. Does anyone know if NVDA or
JAWS has such feature? Thank you.








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Re: NVDA is not reading out buttons in Chrome browser

Gene
 

You don't need to update in that way.  Chrome-based browsers are supposed to automatically update.  But instead of installing the program to update it, if it isn't automatically updating, use the about dialog.  That dialog tells you if an update is available and there is an update button.  Once you open the about dialog, it may be in slightly different places depending on the Chrome-based browser you are using, have browse mode on.  If you can't move through the interface with the arrow keys, manually turn on Browse mode and it will be accessible and similar to a web page.  There is information at or near the top of the page about updating and whether you are up to date.

In Chrome, about is in the help submenu.

Gene

On 6/18/2022 10:24 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I believe the 64 bit version can also be found on chocolety as that’s how I update, every few weeks. Much easier for those who love package managers as I do.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2022 8:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA is not reading out buttons in Chrome browser

 

The issue of downloading Chrome just arose in one of the JAWS groups.

The online installer is always at https://www.google.com/chrome 
and the offline installer for the current 64-bit version can be obtained from: https://dl.google.com/tag/s/appguid%3D%7B8A69D345-D564-463C-AFF1-A69D9E530F96%7D%26iid%3D%7B7963AE5A-0471-BF21-99EE-0ABC200D2042%7D%26lang%3Den%26browser%3D3%26usagestats%3D0%26appname%3DGoogle%2520Chrome%26needsadmin%3Dprefers%26ap%3Dx64-stable-statsdef_1%26installdataindex%3Dempty/chrome/install/ChromeStandaloneSetup64.exe 
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NVDA issue with visual studio 2022 parameter help

Luke Robinett
 

First, good news is that unlike prior versions of visual studio, NVDA now works properly when navigating suggestion lists in the code editor. Previously it would read the entire line of code every time you move from one selection to the next, but now it only reads the selected item.

There is another issue, however. I will be typing a line of code and eventually NVDA will start saying “parameter help, parameter help, parameter help” over and over every time I move the cursor left or right or type a key. The only way to get it to stop doing this is to press escape and then arrow away from that line of code and back again. This is a problem because ironically, NVDA repeating “parameter help” is making it so I can’t hear the actual parameter help. Lol.

Before I place a bug ticket I just thought I’d see if there’s some setting I can adjust to perhaps mitigate this issue. Let me know if my explanation didn’t make sense and I can add clarifying details. All the usual stuff… Latest versions of windows, NVDA, visual studio blah blah blah. Thank you


Re: NVDA is not reading out buttons in Chrome browser

Sarah k Alawami
 

I believe the 64 bit version can also be found on chocolety as that’s how I update, every few weeks. Much easier for those who love package managers as I do.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2022 8:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA is not reading out buttons in Chrome browser

 

The issue of downloading Chrome just arose in one of the JAWS groups.

The online installer is always at https://www.google.com/chrome 
and the offline installer for the current 64-bit version can be obtained from: https://dl.google.com/tag/s/appguid%3D%7B8A69D345-D564-463C-AFF1-A69D9E530F96%7D%26iid%3D%7B7963AE5A-0471-BF21-99EE-0ABC200D2042%7D%26lang%3Den%26browser%3D3%26usagestats%3D0%26appname%3DGoogle%2520Chrome%26needsadmin%3Dprefers%26ap%3Dx64-stable-statsdef_1%26installdataindex%3Dempty/chrome/install/ChromeStandaloneSetup64.exe 
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        ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: NVDA is not reading out buttons in Chrome browser

 

The issue of downloading Chrome just arose in one of the JAWS groups.

The online installer is always at https://www.google.com/chrome 
and the offline installer for the current 64-bit version can be obtained from: https://dl.google.com/tag/s/appguid%3D%7B8A69D345-D564-463C-AFF1-A69D9E530F96%7D%26iid%3D%7B7963AE5A-0471-BF21-99EE-0ABC200D2042%7D%26lang%3Den%26browser%3D3%26usagestats%3D0%26appname%3DGoogle%2520Chrome%26needsadmin%3Dprefers%26ap%3Dx64-stable-statsdef_1%26installdataindex%3Dempty/chrome/install/ChromeStandaloneSetup64.exe 
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Re: NVDA is not reading out buttons in Chrome browser

 

The first thing I'd try is uninstalling Chrome 32-bit and installing Chrome 64-bit.   All of my machines that have 64-bit hardware have 64-bit Chrome (and all Chromium-based browsers) on them.  I didn't even have to specify when I ran the Chrome installer online, it detected 64-bit hardware and installed the 64-bit version.
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NVDA is not reading out buttons in Chrome browser

Nayana Lakhwani
 

Hi All,

 

I am using NVDA on a Windows10 machine. I have observed the issue below.

 

NVDA is not reading out Bookmarks, show side panel, Refresh, Forward and back buttons in Google Chrome browser, when we mouse hover on them or even with tab buttons.



Although its reading out all options in Microsoft Edge browser correctly.

 

Environment:

Windows Version : Windows 10 21H2 (OS Build 19044.1706)

NVDA Version : NVDA 2022.1

Chrome Browser Version:  102.0.5005.115 (Official Build) (32-bit)

Microsoft Edge version102.0.1245.44 (Official build) (64-bit)

 

Steps to reproduce:

1.     Open chrome browser

2.      Mouse hover on bookmarks option, show side panel button, Refresh button. and verify if NVDA reads out loud all these options

3.     Open Microsoft edge browser and hover on the Favourites, bookmarks button. NVDA reads out all options as we hover over each one of them.

 

Key Points:

·        Behaviour is same with NVDA and Narrator. Both the screen readers are not reading out chrome browser buttons.


Thanks

Nayana Lakhwani


Re: holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

Josh Kennedy
 

yes that is why I mostly use jaws, now. I only use NVDA to play with old sapi4 synthesizers that jaws does not support and if I want to use old versions of softvoice or decTalk. 


Re: holding off on 2022.1 due to Code Factory dragging their feet

Josh Kennedy
 

the codeFactory addon only works with NVDA. sapi5 works with everything. sapi5 works with NVDA, text readers like balabolka, audio games, and anything else that can use sapi5, even jaws. 


Re: In-Process AND a beta both out today

Jason Bratcher
 

That's just it.
you don't want to read this entire documentation all in one sitting;
A definite CTRL+D to bookmark the Index page is a wise choice.
Try to read small pieces of it every now and then;
That way you're not overwhelmed.

Jason Bratcher


Re: Issue With This Apparently Phantom Item 'Task Switcher' With Recent Updates of NVDA

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Brian,

I haven't used Windows 7 in over 2 years so I can't be sure. I do not remember it happening very much if at all with Windows 7--not enough to write a message to the list anyway.  This seems to have gotten worse with later versions of Windows 10 and the newer Windows 11. I turned on/off the windows shade setting in multitasking and I have only seen it once since then--and I tried deliberately by opening 7 windows one after the other to test.

On 6/18/2022 3:55 AM, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:
Are you sure this is not an intermittent old issue? I'm sure sometimes on Windows 7 this sort of thing happened as well. The only recourse seemed to be to shut and restart nvda then. Sadly I've not used Windows11, so I cannot comment further if its a similar issue.
Brian
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Re: About Quick support on Windows 10

Roberto Perez
 

Hi.

Do you mean Quick Assist? Yes, it is a known issue. Route the mouse cursor to the position of the object navigator and perform a left click. This will give focus to the web view inside the app. After that you will be able to use browse mode to interact.

Thank you

On Jun 18, 2022, at 4:40 AM, Dimitrios Tsakiridis <dtsak27@...> wrote:



Hello every one, And good Morning from Greece:

 

I have the last version of NVDA, and I use also the latest version of Windows 10.
When I try to work on the Quick support application on Windows 10, NVDA does not read any think.
I install the adon Windows app essential.
I have a question, if there is an other adon for NVDA, or if I will wait for a new fix update of NVDA.

 

Best regards, Dimitrios Tsakiridis.

 

Στάλθηκε από την Αλληλογραφία για τα Windows

 


Re: Looking for an accessible twitter client

Pranav Lal
 

Hi all,

 

I am using tweesecake and have both my twitter accounts setup. I am a happy camper.

 

Thanks everyone.

 

Pranav


About Quick support on Windows 10

Dimitrios Tsakiridis
 

Hello every one, And good Morning from Greece:

 

I have the last version of NVDA, and I use also the latest version of Windows 10.
When I try to work on the Quick support application on Windows 10, NVDA does not read any think.
I install the adon Windows app essential.
I have a question, if there is an other adon for NVDA, or if I will wait for a new fix update of NVDA.

 

Best regards, Dimitrios Tsakiridis.

 

Στάλθηκε από την Αλληλογραφία για τα Windows

 


Re: Eloquence and Vocalizer Expressive Add-on

Brian's Mail list account
 

Yes that is right but from what I hear there was very little to change from the last version.
Brian

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Wow, that was fast, but I thougth that version of nvda was already
released, or am I getting confused with an earlier version released
about a month ago to the public.


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