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Re: Frequently Unable to Press Elements On The Web

Bob Cavanaugh
 

This does sound like a website layout issue, though I wonder if the
original poster has something else going on? The original message
indicates this happens frequently, which isn't my experience. I was
trying to buy tickets for an event on Eventbright the other day and
encountered a dialog that I couldn't seem to close, but as it was the
purchase dialog, it wasn't an issue. So, a couple questions for the
original poster of this question:
1. Does the issue happen on the same sites every time, or is it the
case that you can go to a site one day and it works and another day
where it doesn't?
2. Can you provide us some links? Without this information, we can't
tell if there's something wrong with your computer or if you just have
a habit of visiting less than accessible websites. It sounds like my
experience meerrors most on this list, where the occasional website
has issues, but most sites work fine. When you say Google for
instance, I assume you're performing a search, but Google has so many
products that that might not be accurate.

On 6/18/22, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...> wrote:
Dear all,

I am using NVDA, Firefox, and Edge (latest stable versions of each but
I have been facing such issues for many months now). Far too
frequently have I been encountering instances wherein Spacebar/Enter
simply does not activate a pressable item (link, button, menu item,
dialog, etc.). Either nothing happens, or the focus jumps in the page
arbitrarily, or a different element in the page is activated, or I am
thrown into another window altogether. This happens on commonplace
websites like Google, LinkedIn, and Doordash as well as less complex
and lesser-known websites. In these cases, I sometimes need to enter
focus mode and retry Spacebar/Enter, sometimes need to manually move
around the navigator object to the control and press
NVDA+Shift+Backspace and then NVDA+Enter, sometimes manually
reposition the navigator object and move the mouse pointer to it and
then simulate a left mouse click, and sometimes try maximizing the
browser's window or closing some other programs whose window may be
interfering (like CCleaner and Google Drive). Even then, sometimes,
none of these strategies succeed. This experience applies to a
minority of pressable elements (<50%), but it is a significant
minority of cases and enough to be a significant inconvenience. I face
this more often in Firefox, but that might be because I use it more
than I do Edge.

I would like to acknowledge that (a) the description of my issue lacks
examples and is somewhat generic, and (b) issues should ideally be
reported on GitHub. This is intentional because in my experience, this
problem is pervasive and issues of this kind have already been
reported on GitHub for months(/years?) to little effect.

Do you face such issues as well? What strategies do you use when
Spacebar/Enter doesn't activate a control like it should? Have you
found one web browser to fare better than another in this respect (say
Edge might be more reliable than Firefox)?

I would be deeply grateful for any thoughts and suggestions.

Kind Regards,
Bhavya Shah
B.S. in Mathematical and Computational Science | Stanford '24
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/






Re: Older videos do not load while brousing through channel in video on firefox

Sarah k Alawami
 

A bit OT, but I have to use page up or down, plus end to get around in case something does auto scroll, this on a discord server. Try that as well. I’ve never used youtube in focus mode except to start and stop vids.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 9:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Older videos do not load while brousing through channel in video on firefox

 

The simplest solution I've found to this problem is making sure you're in focus mode then hitting the End key.  On every YouTube video page I've tried (and those are the ones offered) each successive press of the End key causes the next "chunk" of videos that occur after what's currently already on display to load.  You have to be in Focus mode, as the use of End in this context is a browser keyboard command.

I constantly use both Home and End to shoot to the beginning/end (respectively) of fixed size web pages and will now probably start using End a lot more to trigger "next batch" loading at the current end of a page that loads contents in "chunks."
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

        ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Older videos do not load while brousing through channel in video on firefox

 

The simplest solution I've found to this problem is making sure you're in focus mode then hitting the End key.  On every YouTube video page I've tried (and those are the ones offered) each successive press of the End key causes the next "chunk" of videos that occur after what's currently already on display to load.  You have to be in Focus mode, as the use of End in this context is a browser keyboard command.

I constantly use both Home and End to shoot to the beginning/end (respectively) of fixed size web pages and will now probably start using End a lot more to trigger "next batch" loading at the current end of a page that loads contents in "chunks."
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

        ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: [Solved] Issue with Microsoft Quick Assist & NVDA

 

That was Kostadin Kosalev.  And a search of the archive on "QuickAssist" (run together as one word) and "solved" gets you that single message.

Searching a Groups.io Topics Page/Archive

Browsing a Groups.io Topics Page/Archive

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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

        ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Frequently Unable to Press Elements On The Web

Abhishek Raut
 

I am using laptop layout, still it works..
I hadn't read documentation so don't know the official description / layout.
any ways what things work on my side, simply I shared.

On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 9:14 PM Suhas D <ignisdraco7@...> wrote:

1: if you are trying to click on clickable buttons / dialog box / menu items, try to press insert / your nvda key + numpad 5 to took your mouse cursor on the point where your nvda cursor is present.
then, press insert+ enter. it will say activated.
note: these things are from laptop layout.

The command NVDA + numpad 5 is a command in the desktop keyboard layout, not in the laptop keyboard layout.

If you want NVDA to report the current navigator object using the laptop keyboard layout, use the key command NVDA + shift + O


Suhas
Sent from Thunderbird
On 6/19/2022 20:59, Abhishek Raut wrote:
I also have encountered such kind of issues.
I tried few Things, hope it will solve your problem.
1: if you are trying to click on clickable buttons / dialog box / menu items, try to press insert / your nvda key + numpad 5 to took your mouse cursor on the point where your nvda cursor is present.
then, press insert+ enter. it will say activated.
note: these things are from laptop layout.
2: if you are trying to open any link, try taking arro on that link, and press enter. if click do not happen, simply press up arro, and after K to get again cursor to your link and then press enter.
3: if you are facing issue with dialog box, then after enter, try pressing control+ home / control+ end key to reach top / end of the page. there you will find clickable dialog. click on it, it will show you the dialog.
Now a days, these kinds of dialogs are found on lot's of websites.
if these things do not work, then 95% that website accessibility has some issues.
you may find such issues in menu items, or date filling box.
Thank you

On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 12:06 AM Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...> wrote:
Dear all,

I am using NVDA, Firefox, and Edge (latest stable versions of each but
I have been facing such issues for many months now). Far too
frequently have I been encountering instances wherein Spacebar/Enter
simply does not activate a pressable item (link, button, menu item,
dialog, etc.). Either nothing happens, or the focus jumps in the page
arbitrarily, or a different element in the page is activated, or I am
thrown into another window altogether. This happens on commonplace
websites like Google, LinkedIn, and Doordash as well as less complex
and lesser-known websites. In these cases, I sometimes need to enter
focus mode and retry Spacebar/Enter, sometimes need to manually move
around the navigator object to the control and press
NVDA+Shift+Backspace and then NVDA+Enter, sometimes manually
reposition the navigator object and move the mouse pointer to it and
then simulate a left mouse click, and sometimes try maximizing the
browser's window or closing some other programs whose window may be
interfering (like CCleaner and Google Drive). Even then, sometimes,
none of these strategies succeed. This experience applies to a
minority of pressable elements (<50%), but it is a significant
minority of cases and enough to be a significant inconvenience. I face
this more often in Firefox, but that might be because I use it more
than I do Edge.

I would like to acknowledge that (a) the description of my issue lacks
examples and is somewhat generic, and (b) issues should ideally be
reported on GitHub. This is intentional because in my experience, this
problem is pervasive and issues of this kind have already been
reported on GitHub for months(/years?) to little effect.

Do you face such issues as well? What strategies do you use when
Spacebar/Enter doesn't activate a control like it should? Have you
found one web browser to fare better than another in this respect (say
Edge might be more reliable than Firefox)?

I would be deeply grateful for any thoughts and suggestions.

Kind Regards,
Bhavya Shah
B.S. in Mathematical and Computational Science | Stanford '24
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/







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Regards, Abhishek Raut



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Re: Older videos do not load while brousing through channel in video on firefox

 

On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 12:46 AM, Ali Colak wrote:
Specific examples, in this case, are completely useless, regardless of
weather they are mandatory or optional.
-
No, they're not.  As Gene pointed out, there are lots of "short" YouTube pages.  Forcing others to look around when you can (and did now) give an example or two is both rude and silly.

Also, the posting of logs is not permitted on the group.  If someone requests a log file, it should be sent privately.
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        ~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Frequently Unable to Press Elements On The Web

Suhas D
 

1: if you are trying to click on clickable buttons / dialog box / menu items, try to press insert / your nvda key + numpad 5 to took your mouse cursor on the point where your nvda cursor is present.
then, press insert+ enter. it will say activated.
note: these things are from laptop layout.

The command NVDA + numpad 5 is a command in the desktop keyboard layout, not in the laptop keyboard layout.

If you want NVDA to report the current navigator object using the laptop keyboard layout, use the key command NVDA + shift + O


Suhas
Sent from Thunderbird
On 6/19/2022 20:59, Abhishek Raut wrote:
I also have encountered such kind of issues.
I tried few Things, hope it will solve your problem.
1: if you are trying to click on clickable buttons / dialog box / menu items, try to press insert / your nvda key + numpad 5 to took your mouse cursor on the point where your nvda cursor is present.
then, press insert+ enter. it will say activated.
note: these things are from laptop layout.
2: if you are trying to open any link, try taking arro on that link, and press enter. if click do not happen, simply press up arro, and after K to get again cursor to your link and then press enter.
3: if you are facing issue with dialog box, then after enter, try pressing control+ home / control+ end key to reach top / end of the page. there you will find clickable dialog. click on it, it will show you the dialog.
Now a days, these kinds of dialogs are found on lot's of websites.
if these things do not work, then 95% that website accessibility has some issues.
you may find such issues in menu items, or date filling box.
Thank you

On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 12:06 AM Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...> wrote:
Dear all,

I am using NVDA, Firefox, and Edge (latest stable versions of each but
I have been facing such issues for many months now). Far too
frequently have I been encountering instances wherein Spacebar/Enter
simply does not activate a pressable item (link, button, menu item,
dialog, etc.). Either nothing happens, or the focus jumps in the page
arbitrarily, or a different element in the page is activated, or I am
thrown into another window altogether. This happens on commonplace
websites like Google, LinkedIn, and Doordash as well as less complex
and lesser-known websites. In these cases, I sometimes need to enter
focus mode and retry Spacebar/Enter, sometimes need to manually move
around the navigator object to the control and press
NVDA+Shift+Backspace and then NVDA+Enter, sometimes manually
reposition the navigator object and move the mouse pointer to it and
then simulate a left mouse click, and sometimes try maximizing the
browser's window or closing some other programs whose window may be
interfering (like CCleaner and Google Drive). Even then, sometimes,
none of these strategies succeed. This experience applies to a
minority of pressable elements (<50%), but it is a significant
minority of cases and enough to be a significant inconvenience. I face
this more often in Firefox, but that might be because I use it more
than I do Edge.

I would like to acknowledge that (a) the description of my issue lacks
examples and is somewhat generic, and (b) issues should ideally be
reported on GitHub. This is intentional because in my experience, this
problem is pervasive and issues of this kind have already been
reported on GitHub for months(/years?) to little effect.

Do you face such issues as well? What strategies do you use when
Spacebar/Enter doesn't activate a control like it should? Have you
found one web browser to fare better than another in this respect (say
Edge might be more reliable than Firefox)?

I would be deeply grateful for any thoughts and suggestions.

Kind Regards,
Bhavya Shah
B.S. in Mathematical and Computational Science | Stanford '24
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/







--
Regards, Abhishek Raut


Re: Frequently Unable to Press Elements On The Web

Abhishek Raut
 

I also have encountered such kind of issues.
I tried few Things, hope it will solve your problem.
1: if you are trying to click on clickable buttons / dialog box / menu items, try to press insert / your nvda key + numpad 5 to took your mouse cursor on the point where your nvda cursor is present.
then, press insert+ enter. it will say activated.
note: these things are from laptop layout.
2: if you are trying to open any link, try taking arro on that link, and press enter. if click do not happen, simply press up arro, and after K to get again cursor to your link and then press enter.
3: if you are facing issue with dialog box, then after enter, try pressing control+ home / control+ end key to reach top / end of the page. there you will find clickable dialog. click on it, it will show you the dialog.
Now a days, these kinds of dialogs are found on lot's of websites.
if these things do not work, then 95% that website accessibility has some issues.
you may find such issues in menu items, or date filling box.
Thank you

On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 12:06 AM Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...> wrote:
Dear all,

I am using NVDA, Firefox, and Edge (latest stable versions of each but
I have been facing such issues for many months now). Far too
frequently have I been encountering instances wherein Spacebar/Enter
simply does not activate a pressable item (link, button, menu item,
dialog, etc.). Either nothing happens, or the focus jumps in the page
arbitrarily, or a different element in the page is activated, or I am
thrown into another window altogether. This happens on commonplace
websites like Google, LinkedIn, and Doordash as well as less complex
and lesser-known websites. In these cases, I sometimes need to enter
focus mode and retry Spacebar/Enter, sometimes need to manually move
around the navigator object to the control and press
NVDA+Shift+Backspace and then NVDA+Enter, sometimes manually
reposition the navigator object and move the mouse pointer to it and
then simulate a left mouse click, and sometimes try maximizing the
browser's window or closing some other programs whose window may be
interfering (like CCleaner and Google Drive). Even then, sometimes,
none of these strategies succeed. This experience applies to a
minority of pressable elements (<50%), but it is a significant
minority of cases and enough to be a significant inconvenience. I face
this more often in Firefox, but that might be because I use it more
than I do Edge.

I would like to acknowledge that (a) the description of my issue lacks
examples and is somewhat generic, and (b) issues should ideally be
reported on GitHub. This is intentional because in my experience, this
problem is pervasive and issues of this kind have already been
reported on GitHub for months(/years?) to little effect.

Do you face such issues as well? What strategies do you use when
Spacebar/Enter doesn't activate a control like it should? Have you
found one web browser to fare better than another in this respect (say
Edge might be more reliable than Firefox)?

I would be deeply grateful for any thoughts and suggestions.

Kind Regards,
Bhavya Shah
B.S. in Mathematical and Computational Science | Stanford '24
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/







--
Regards, Abhishek Raut


Re: [Solved] Issue with Microsoft Quick Assist & NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

‘check the archives  as someone already reported a fix for this.

 

Good luck.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dimitrios Tsakiridis
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 1:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft Quick assist

 

Hello every one, and Good morning from Greece:

 

I install the latest version of Quick assist for Windows 10, from Microsoft store.

The NVDA does not read any think, when I open the application.

I have the latest version of NVDA.

 

Best regards, Dimitrios Tsakiridis.

 

Στάλθηκε από την Αλληλογραφία για τα Windows

 


Re: Issue With This Apparently Phantom Item 'Task Switcher' With Recent Updates of NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

I normally have about 8 or so apps open on several desktops. I've only seen
this twice, and it's so rare I forget when it happens, It is annoying though
when it wants to happen.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 12:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue With This Apparently Phantom Item 'Task Switcher'
With Recent Updates of NVDA

I've always assumed it comes up when all switchable (alt+tabbable)
applications are busy, and can't re-render their interfaces for some reason.
So Windows can't finish switching to them. But that's a wild guess.

I've only ever run into it when I have three or fewer applications open,
which is so very rare that I haven't encountered it enough to bother me.

But I'm pretty sure I have encountered it from time to time in Windows 10 of
various releases. (I never had Win 7)

Luke


Re: Older videos do not load while brousing through channel in video on firefox

Sarah k Alawami
 

I just go by heading.  I was looking back for about 3 or so years this way. This though in chrome.  This was on someone’s youtube page last night. I would open the videos in separate windows this way I could keep my place.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of nvdainth@...
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2022 10:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Older videos do not load while brousing through channel in video on firefox

 

I use this trick
go to end of page which you found end of load video
then press NVDA+space to focus mode
and press down
the more video will load
then press NVDA+space to browse mode normally
repeat these step  when you want load more video or playlist in Youtube on Firefox


Re: NVDA with Team Viewer.

Sarah k Alawami
 

I can reproduce this.  It is a team viewer issue. I’m lucky though my aira agent can just snap a pic of the screen and  grab the codes that way.  I hope they do fix this, although I don’t think I’ll be needing TeamViewer much longer.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ravindran V.S.
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2022 8:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with Team Viewer.

 

Hi Group,

The latest NVDA Version 22.1 and Team Viewer latest versions does not provide any useful accessibility.

I am not too sure which has caused this problem. Because I have both latest versions running.

When I open Team Viewer NVDA does not speak anything. Earlier can move with Tab and get into the menu and other required cells.

But now nothing.

Even Object navigation does not provide much help.

 

Anything am I missing or doing wrong?

Team Viewer was fairly accessible with NVDA rather than Any-Desk. But now giving problem.

 

Kindly advice.

Thanks,

Ravi.


Re: Key echo not working in Git Bash using 2022.1

George Kerscher
 

Hello,

 

The problem is with Bluetooth Audio version 1.4. I’ll let the author know.

 

When this is disabled, Git Bash has no problems with key echo.

 

Best

George

 

The add-on b

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Perry
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 2:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Key echo not working in Git Bash using 2022.1

 

Hmm No idea then.  I just use the Ubuntu or Debian prompt with wsl so I have not used that sorry.    NVDA seems to  work with all the Ubuntu, Debian, Powershell, and cmd.exe.  I wonder if some script needs to be updated.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Kerscher
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 3:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Key echo not working in Git Bash using 2022.1

 

Hi,

 

I have Github for windows installed. It creates a context menu called Git-Bash-Here and pressing this opens the terminal window MINGW64.

 

I get the$ prompt

 

Character echo is working in Jaws and Narrator.

 

Best

George

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Perry
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 1:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Key echo not working in Git Bash using 2022.1

 

When you say git bash console do you mean wsl or something else.  The character echo is working for me in wsl.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Kerscher
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 3:21 PM
To: NVDA General Discussion <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Key echo not working in Git Bash using 2022.1

 

Hi,

 

In Git Bash console, the key echo is not working. In a command prompt it is. It was working prior to 2022.1

 

I tried modifying in advanced settings the new setting for the console It did not seem to do anything.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Best

George

 

 

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http://www.idpf.org

Member of the National Museum and Library Services  Board (IMLS)

http://www.imls.gov

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http://www.w3.org/WAI

Phone: +1 406/549-4687

Cell:+1 406/544-2466

Email: kerscher@...

 


Re: NVDA with Team Viewer.

Ravindran V.S.
 

Thanks Brian.
Is there a way that we could report about this to the Team Viewer support?
Regards,
Ravi.

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Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 1:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with Team Viewer.

I'm pretty certain its team viewer. I say this as I had a remote session
with a sighted friend and when we started I had an older team viewer and all
was sweetness and light. However he decided to do the update on my machine
while he was sorting out a problem, and ever since its been the electronic
equivalent of a brick.
I think the quick connect temp version will still work, but if you want to
do the driving, then they have mucked something up, and I bet its something
really stupid. I have not contacted them, as I seldom need it, but it just
goes to show that companies still do not do accessibility testing before
they unleash new versions.
Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with Team Viewer.


I have had exactly the same experience.



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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ravindran V.S.
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2022 8:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with Team Viewer.



This is in my Windows 10 with H2 version.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Ravindran V.S. via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 9:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with Team Viewer.



Hi Group,

The latest NVDA Version 22.1 and Team Viewer latest versions does not
provide any useful accessibility.

I am not too sure which has caused this problem. Because I have both latest
versions running.

When I open Team Viewer NVDA does not speak anything. Earlier can move with
Tab and get into the menu and other required cells.

But now nothing.

Even Object navigation does not provide much help.



Anything am I missing or doing wrong?

Team Viewer was fairly accessible with NVDA rather than Any-Desk. But now
giving problem.



Kindly advice.

Thanks,

Ravi.


[Solved] Issue with Microsoft Quick Assist & NVDA

Dimitrios Tsakiridis
 

Hello every one, and Good morning from Greece:

 

I install the latest version of Quick assist for Windows 10, from Microsoft store.

The NVDA does not read any think, when I open the application.

I have the latest version of NVDA.

 

Best regards, Dimitrios Tsakiridis.

 

Στάλθηκε από την Αλληλογραφία για τα Windows

 


Re: Issue With This Apparently Phantom Item 'Task Switcher' With Recent Updates of NVDA

Gene
 

It evidently is the name of the interface that comes up when you alt tab.  A sighted person evidently sees the names of all opened programs and we, of course, hear the program that has focus when we alt tab to it.  A Google search for task switcher Windows 10 gave this result and others I didn't look at:
https://www.hongkiat.com/blog/switch-tasks-windows-10/

As for the running short of memory hypothesis, that has no bearing on the question.  If you run short of RAM, programs are swapped to the hard drive when not being used.  If you use alt tab to switch to another program, that program comes out of the swap file and is placed in RAM while the program you were previously using goes into the swap file.  The swapping occurs when you release alt tab on the program you want to switch to.

Gene

On 6/19/2022 2:25 AM, Luke Davis wrote:

I've always assumed it comes up when all switchable (alt+tabbable) applications are busy, and can't re-render their interfaces for some reason. So Windows can't finish switching to them. But that's a wild guess.

I've only ever run into it when I have three or fewer applications open, which is so very rare that I haven't encountered it enough to bother me.

But I'm pretty sure I have encountered it from time to time in Windows 10 of various releases. (I never had Win 7)

Luke







Re: NVDA with Team Viewer.

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I'm pretty certain its team viewer. I say this as I had a remote session with a sighted friend and when we started I had an older team viewer and all was sweetness and light. However he decided to do the update on my machine while he was sorting out a problem, and ever since its been the electronic equivalent of a brick.
I think the quick connect temp version will still work, but if you want to do the driving, then they have mucked something up, and I bet its something really stupid. I have not contacted them, as I seldom need it, but it just goes to show that companies still do not do accessibility testing before they unleash new versions.
Brian

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I have had exactly the same experience.



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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ravindran V.S.
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2022 8:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with Team Viewer.



This is in my Windows 10 with H2 version.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Ravindran V.S. via groups.io
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Subject: [nvda] NVDA with Team Viewer.



Hi Group,

The latest NVDA Version 22.1 and Team Viewer latest versions does not
provide any useful accessibility.

I am not too sure which has caused this problem. Because I have both latest
versions running.

When I open Team Viewer NVDA does not speak anything. Earlier can move with
Tab and get into the menu and other required cells.

But now nothing.

Even Object navigation does not provide much help.



Anything am I missing or doing wrong?

Team Viewer was fairly accessible with NVDA rather than Any-Desk. But now
giving problem.



Kindly advice.

Thanks,

Ravi.


Re: Frequently Unable to Press Elements On The Web

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In my view, this is the web site. I know not enough about page authoring but it seems to me that its normally repeatable on the same objects on the same pages. Indeed on one in the Google email settings it threw me completely out to the desktop and when I found the browser again, it had gone to an earlier page.
Its very hard to judge exactly why, but because there are more than one issues here, it could be that its just too complex to resolve. Dunno.
Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Frequently Unable to Press Elements On The Web


I actually just had this fail today in firefox at www.trailhead.com <http://www.trailhead.com> . In fact the thing was off screen when I went into document mode to be sure the page had actually changed, or not changed. Chrome did something worse where the thing would not even activate when I typed in my query on trailhead’s salesforce settings when creating a permission set. I had to go through the whole interface to find where the thing was I had to modify. I then had an add button that would not become active. No, alt tabbing did not work. It took me 3 days to get this assignment done because of that little hiccup. I did get it done but with much hair pulling.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2022 3:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Frequently Unable to Press Elements On The Web



dude, try pressing alt + tab

or: f5



it's a matter of exiting and returning from the window without close



but, you will still have to locate the item sometimes



Em sáb., 18 de jun. de 2022 às 15:36, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@... <mailto:bhavya.shah125@...> > escreveu:

Dear all,

I am using NVDA, Firefox, and Edge (latest stable versions of each but
I have been facing such issues for many months now). Far too
frequently have I been encountering instances wherein Spacebar/Enter
simply does not activate a pressable item (link, button, menu item,
dialog, etc.). Either nothing happens, or the focus jumps in the page
arbitrarily, or a different element in the page is activated, or I am
thrown into another window altogether. This happens on commonplace
websites like Google, LinkedIn, and Doordash as well as less complex
and lesser-known websites. In these cases, I sometimes need to enter
focus mode and retry Spacebar/Enter, sometimes need to manually move
around the navigator object to the control and press
NVDA+Shift+Backspace and then NVDA+Enter, sometimes manually
reposition the navigator object and move the mouse pointer to it and
then simulate a left mouse click, and sometimes try maximizing the
browser's window or closing some other programs whose window may be
interfering (like CCleaner and Google Drive). Even then, sometimes,
none of these strategies succeed. This experience applies to a
minority of pressable elements (<50%), but it is a significant
minority of cases and enough to be a significant inconvenience. I face
this more often in Firefox, but that might be because I use it more
than I do Edge.

I would like to acknowledge that (a) the description of my issue lacks
examples and is somewhat generic, and (b) issues should ideally be
reported on GitHub. This is intentional because in my experience, this
problem is pervasive and issues of this kind have already been
reported on GitHub for months(/years?) to little effect.

Do you face such issues as well? What strategies do you use when
Spacebar/Enter doesn't activate a control like it should? Have you
found one web browser to fare better than another in this respect (say
Edge might be more reliable than Firefox)?

I would be deeply grateful for any thoughts and suggestions.

Kind Regards,
Bhavya Shah
B.S. in Mathematical and Computational Science | Stanford '24
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Re: Older videos do not load while brousing through channel in video on firefox

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Yes if the list is really long it goes very like a search engine, and after the selected number of results, you get next, or more or some other link or button to go through the next page, often it will tell you haw many pages there are but not always. I have also had some strange things like the mute button on the audio track mysteriously being enabled, but that is a whole other issue and may well be google trying to be helpful to screenreader users!

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Older videos do not load while brousing through channel in video on firefox


I use this trick
go to end of page which you found end of load video
then press NVDA+space to focus mode
and press down
the more video will load
then press NVDA+space to browse mode normally
repeat these step when you want load more video or playlist in Youtube on Firefox


Re: NVDA is not reading out buttons in Chrome browser

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Some browsers need to be watched as occasionally, they regress at least from our point of view Waterfox did this and I held off updating for some months till the crashing with nvda randomly was resolved.
I sometimes feel that software writers are too fast at pumping out their updates before exhaustively testing them, particularly with access software.
On the 32 bit thing. I agree, never use the 32 bit ones. Firefox went through a period where the 32 bit at that time was inaccessible, some years back now but it can occur.
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2022 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA is not reading out buttons in Chrome browser


You may do things in ways that computer users generally don't do
things. That doesn't mean that the general user should do things in a
different way. Chrome-based browsers update in the background. and on
what do you base your distrust of about dialogs? I haven't seen one
computer advisor nor anyone else say they are unreliable.

I have no objection to you doing things as you wish but you are making
statements and implications that updating Chrome-based browsers as most
computer users do is unreliable or in some way a disadvantage to what
you do, with which I most emphatically disagree.

Gene

On 6/18/2022 12:04 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I’d rather update through chocolety, as it updates in the background,
and I have about 30 other windows apps I update in this way, all at
once. I don’t trust the about dialogue, ever, not in chrome anyway.
Give me a package manager any day, or give me the installer so I can
just update by hand and keep the follinstaller around in case I have
to reinstall from scratch.

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* Saturday, June 18, 2022 8:32 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA is not reading out buttons in Chrome browser

You don't need to update in that way. Chrome-based browsers are
supposed to automatically update. But instead of installing the
program to update it, if it isn't automatically updating, use the
about dialog. That dialog tells you if an update is available and
there is an update button. Once you open the about dialog, it may be
in slightly different places depending on the Chrome-based browser you
are using, have browse mode on. If you can't move through the
interface with the arrow keys, manually turn on Browse mode and it
will be accessible and similar to a web page. There is information at
or near the top of the page about updating and whether you are up to date.

In Chrome, about is in the help submenu.

Gene

On 6/18/2022 10:24 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I believe the 64 bit version can also be found on chocolety as
that’s how I update, every few weeks. Much easier for those who
love package managers as I do.

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*Brian Vogel
*Sent:* Saturday, June 18, 2022 8:13 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA is not reading out buttons in Chrome
browser

The issue of downloading Chrome just arose in one of the JAWS groups.

The online installer is always at https://www.google.com/chrome
and the offline installer for the current 64-bit version can be
obtained from:
https://dl.google.com/tag/s/appguid%3D%7B8A69D345-D564-463C-AFF1-A69D9E530F96%7D%26iid%3D%7B7963AE5A-0471-BF21-99EE-0ABC200D2042%7D%26lang%3Den%26browser%3D3%26usagestats%3D0%26appname%3DGoogle%2520Chrome%26needsadmin%3Dprefers%26ap%3Dx64-stable-statsdef_1%26installdataindex%3Dempty/chrome/install/ChromeStandaloneSetup64.exe

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