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Re: Focus issues with Google's Enhanced protection browsing mode

Aine Kelly Costello
 

Sorry this is totally my mistake thanks Gene. I had toggled the browsing setting the other day so mistakenly thought it was the source of the issue, but in fact the culprit is a McAfee Web advisor Chrome extension, which I must have managed to accidently enable at some point. Now disabled!


Re: Double Entry Bookkeeping/professional accounting software

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi Luke,

The choices are *very* limited. I have heard that the online version of
QuickBooks is somewhat accessible, though I dislike the fees involved. Its
desktop version is woefully inaccessible. As far as professional
double-entry bookkeeping applications go, I think this is pretty much it.


HTH,
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 2:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Double Entry Bookkeeping/professional accounting
software

On Jun 14, Richard B. McDonald wrote:

See the link below to "Wave Apps." It is reputed to be accessible. I
have no personal experience with it, but *a lot* of accounting experience.
Thanks Richard. I have actually tried that one, although not in the last
year or so. They do seem pretty accessible, although I remember running into
several very awkward UI choices that made them somewhat less than smooth,
though over all usable.

They are probably where I'll end up if I can't find anything preferable.

What other software have you had experience with?

Someone mentioned Quickbooks. With Intuit's crummy accessibility record, I
hadn't really considered them to be viable, although I admit never having
bought a copy to test accessibility.

Luke


Re: Trying to help a friend with Code Factory voices

Gerardo Corripio
 

My friend was asking me if maybe when he updated NVDA and had to update the voices, he neglected to put the activation back on the server before updating, thus lost one of his keys upon updating?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 22 jun 2022, a la(s) 1:53 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via groups.io <bglists@...> escribió:

Normally these companies are pretty relaxed if, for example a computer dies and you need to get a new install, I find.
Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Trying to help a friend with Code Factory voices


It's probably the trial demo. Since it's a 3rd computer. I believe three computers is your limit. However, do make sure that you deactivate the licence on say that work computer when not in use anymore. Because if it gets taken away from you, then you only have two license keys left.

On 21 Jun 2022, at 18:34, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@...> wrote:

I'm trying to help here in Mexico, who bought the Code Factory NVDA voices directly from Code Factory, and he's having the problem that he's sure he's installed the voices on 2 computers: home and work. They gave him a 3rd computer at work (a Laptop), and here's where the problem lies: He wants to install the 3rd license on his new Laptop, but upon typing in the key, the system talks about a 7-Day trial pmiod.
So where can he EMail Code Factory directly to see what's going on? And do you have how many activations with Cf 2 or 3?
Thanks for any help you guys can provide.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel












Re: Trying to help a friend with Code Factory voices

Daniel McGee
 

Hi Brian


So are you saying, that in the situation where one can't retrieve there license, Code Factory could give you an extra key back to your account?


Obviously, one shouldn't abuse this and know before hand the limitations of the licensing system but if Code Factory can give you a key back in situations like a computer suddenly dieing on you then that's reassuring to know.

On 22/06/2022 07:53, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io wrote:
Normally these companies are pretty relaxed if, for example a computer dies and you need to get a new install, I find.
Brian


Re: Double Entry Bookkeeping/professional accounting software

Mo Khan
 

hi there, I would also suggest quick books. not sure where you are based? but know  an organisation here in the uk who have been working with them on accessibility and now recommend them to blind business owners. good luck and if it would help can put you in touch with the organisation recommending them in uk. thank you. Mo.


On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 10:01 AM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
On Jun 14, Richard B. McDonald wrote:

> See the link below to "Wave Apps."  It is reputed to be accessible.  I have
> no personal experience with it, but *a lot* of accounting experience.

Thanks Richard. I have actually tried that one, although not in the last year or
so. They do seem pretty accessible, although I remember running into several
very awkward UI choices that made them somewhat less than smooth, though over
all usable.

They are probably where I'll end up if I can't find anything preferable.

What other software have you had experience with?

Someone mentioned Quickbooks. With Intuit's crummy accessibility record, I
hadn't really considered them to be viable, although I admit never having bought
a copy to test accessibility.

Luke







Re: Double Entry Bookkeeping/professional accounting software

Luke Davis
 

On Jun 14, Richard B. McDonald wrote:

See the link below to "Wave Apps." It is reputed to be accessible. I have
no personal experience with it, but *a lot* of accounting experience.
Thanks Richard. I have actually tried that one, although not in the last year or so. They do seem pretty accessible, although I remember running into several very awkward UI choices that made them somewhat less than smooth, though over all usable.

They are probably where I'll end up if I can't find anything preferable.

What other software have you had experience with?

Someone mentioned Quickbooks. With Intuit's crummy accessibility record, I hadn't really considered them to be viable, although I admit never having bought a copy to test accessibility.

Luke


Re: NVDA is not reading out buttons in Chrome browser

Mo Khan
 

hi there, do you have the latest version of chrome? also perhaps try restarting the machine then reloading the browser. good luck. thank you. Mo.


On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 3:45 PM Nayana Lakhwani <nayanalakhwani@...> wrote:

Hi All,

 

I am using NVDA on a Windows10 machine. I have observed the issue below.

 

NVDA is not reading out Bookmarks, show side panel, Refresh, Forward and back buttons in Google Chrome browser, when we mouse hover on them or even with tab buttons.


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Although its reading out all options in Microsoft Edge browser correctly.

 

Environment:

Windows Version : Windows 10 21H2 (OS Build 19044.1706)

NVDA Version : NVDA 2022.1

Chrome Browser Version:  102.0.5005.115 (Official Build) (32-bit)

Microsoft Edge version102.0.1245.44 (Official build) (64-bit)

 

Steps to reproduce:

1.     Open chrome browser

2.      Mouse hover on bookmarks option, show side panel button, Refresh button. and verify if NVDA reads out loud all these options

3.     Open Microsoft edge browser and hover on the Favourites, bookmarks button. NVDA reads out all options as we hover over each one of them.

 

Key Points:

·        Behaviour is same with NVDA and Narrator. Both the screen readers are not reading out chrome browser buttons.


Thanks

Nayana Lakhwani


Re: Has anyone seen stuff like this on the Facebook desktop site using NVDA?

Mo Khan
 

hi there, are you using the main facebook site for this? perhaps try the mobile facebook site. good luck. thank you. Mo.Hi there, are you using the full facebook site for this? perhaps try the mobile facebook site. good luck. thank you. Mo.


On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 5:49 AM Governor staten <govsta@...> wrote:
For a while now, I've been getting some weird stuff going on with some
Facebook posts. Let me see if I can show you what is up. I"ll paste a
post and hopefully, we will see it together.


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Anyone have any ideas as to what is going on here? My first guess is
that this is a Facebook issue. I cannot recall if this occurred under
2021.3.5. You can press b and skip to the "actions" button. If you do
this to a post that was shared, you can miss text this way. Any help on
this one would be much appreciated.







Re: is there any addon for whatsapp for pc both the web application and the standalone

udit pandey
 


Re: Trying to help a friend with Code Factory voices

Brian's Mail list account
 

Normally these companies are pretty relaxed if, for example a computer dies and you need to get a new install, I find.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel McGee" <danielmcgee134@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Trying to help a friend with Code Factory voices


It's probably the trial demo. Since it's a 3rd computer. I believe three computers is your limit. However, do make sure that you deactivate the licence on say that work computer when not in use anymore. Because if it gets taken away from you, then you only have two license keys left.

On 21 Jun 2022, at 18:34, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@...> wrote:

I'm trying to help here in Mexico, who bought the Code Factory NVDA voices directly from Code Factory, and he's having the problem that he's sure he's installed the voices on 2 computers: home and work. They gave him a 3rd computer at work (a Laptop), and here's where the problem lies: He wants to install the 3rd license on his new Laptop, but upon typing in the key, the system talks about a 7-Day trial pmiod.
So where can he EMail Code Factory directly to see what's going on? And do you have how many activations with Cf 2 or 3?
Thanks for any help you guys can provide.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel




Re: is there any addon for whatsapp for pc both the web application and the standalone

Vinod Benjamin
 

hi,
1. i am unable to go to the specific chat i wish,
2. when in the chat window using ctrl+tab moves to the next chat
window however nvda is not reading the name of the chat.
3. in the main treeview we use to navigate through various chat names
and hitt enter it will land on the selected chat , now its not
happening like that.
4. when the focus in surch edit box, when we key in any name unable to
find the surch result.
5. when the focus moves to the chat name using down aero takes to a
edit box, unable to find the other chat names.

regards,
Vinod Benjamin

On 6/22/22, udit pandey <udit52805@...> wrote:
hi,
can you explain what problem are you facing breafly
I think that, the problem must be like your nvda focus is only at the
recent chat but if you are moving to another chats, it comes back to the
recent chat






Has anyone seen stuff like this on the Facebook desktop site using NVDA?

 

For a while now, I've been getting some weird stuff going on with some Facebook posts. Let me see if I can show you what is up. I"ll paste a post and hopefully, we will see it together.


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Anyone have any ideas as to what is going on here? My first guess is that this is a Facebook issue. I cannot recall if this occurred under 2021.3.5. You can press b and skip to the "actions" button. If you do this to a post that was shared, you can miss text this way. Any help on this one would be much appreciated.


Re: is there any addon for whatsapp for pc both the web application and the standalone

udit pandey
 

hi,
can you explain what problem are you facing breafly
I think that, the problem must be like your nvda focus is only at the recent chat but if you are moving to another chats, it comes back to the recent chat


is there any addon for whatsapp for pc both the web application and the standalone

Vinod Benjamin
 

Dear Friends,

in the recent update of whatsapp ,i am not able to access whatsapp web
both windows app vershion and the web version , i have installed nvda
addons still its not working .
i have tried using ctrl+tab and ctrl+shift+tab to navigate between
chat windows however nvda is not reading the chat names , however it
reads in jaws 2022 vershion, is there any workaround for this , kindly
help i am an extensive user of whatsapp in my PC, your help would be
greatly usefull.

Regards,
Vinod Benjamin
India.


Re: Does anyone ever have to use NVDA and narrator together and find that when you turn off narrator, the system sound volume goes down

Luke Davis
 

Sarah k Alawami wrote:

No it is not. I only did it as narrator could access parts nvda could not in regard to a program, but I think I can only count on one hand the times I've done this over the now 12 years I've been using NVDA.
I've done it very rarely, usually just to test Narrator's interaction with something, to learn if it was any better than NVDA's. When doing so, I have usually put NVDA to sleep on the application in question.

Of course, more naturally I just quit NVDA, start Narrator, quit Narrator, and start NVDA. But probably a number of times I can count on one hand, I've had real reason to have them both running. And no, I don't recall why.

Luke


Re: Acapela 1.8 works with NVDA beta1 and beta2

David Goldfield
 

Since version 2022.2 is not an addon-breaking release I would expect any addons, including the Acapela addon, to function normally. The only time an addon might stop working with a beta is if that beta broke support with existing addons but this should not be the case with 2022.2.

 

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

NVDA Certified Expert

 

Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive news, events and information regarding the blindness assistive technology field.

Email: tech-vi+subscribe@groups.io

www.DavidGoldfield.org

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Ouimet
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 4:08 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Acapela 1.8 works with NVDA beta1 and beta2

 

Wanted to let you know Acapela 1.8 works well with both the releases of NVDA beta1 and beta2

 


Re: Trying to help a friend with Code Factory voices

Kenny Cheung
 

they need a better system to manage licenses. I don't like what they have. what if you forget you had a license on a computer?

On 6/21/2022 4:38 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:
It's probably the trial demo. Since it's a 3rd computer. I believe three computers is your limit. However, do make sure that you deactivate the licence on say that work computer when not in use anymore. Because if it gets taken away from you, then you only have two license keys left.

On 21 Jun 2022, at 18:34, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@...> wrote:

I'm trying to help here in Mexico, who bought the Code Factory NVDA voices directly from Code Factory, and he's having the problem that he's sure he's installed the voices on 2 computers: home and work. They gave him a 3rd computer at work (a Laptop), and here's where the problem lies: He wants to install the 3rd license on his new Laptop, but upon typing in the key, the system talks about a 7-Day trial pmiod.
So where can he EMail Code Factory directly to see what's going on? And do you have how many activations with Cf 2 or 3?
Thanks for any help you guys can provide.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel





Re: Focus issues with Google's Enhanced protection browsing mode

Gene
 

I just checked.  On one machine, a Windows 7 machine, enhanced protection is on and on another, a Windows 10 machine, standard protection is on.  I don't know if I changed the setting on my Windows 7 machine a good while ago and don't remember or not.  But it appears that standard protection is the default.

On both machines, using both JAWS and NVDA with enhanced protection on, I don't have the problem you are having and I don't get all sorts of messages about sites when looking through results.  I don't know what accounts for what you are experiencing.

Gene

On 6/21/2022 1:13 PM, Aine Kelly Costello wrote:

Hi all,

I recently turned on Enhanced Protection for browsing which can be found under chrome's settings in the Privacy and Security tab.

Unfortunately for screen reader users, this mode doesn't only tell you about safety breaches, but also about all the safe URLs. I haven't experimented with it that much yet, but on a google search results page, if you arrow down from a given search result heading, after you get to "About this result", the notification about the URLs safe status steels focus and puts the cursor at the top of the page.

This obviously is a nuisance, and I'm not quite sure what the best solution is for now which is why I'm writing here. In an ideal world, it would be possible to set Chrome to only tell you about safety issues and leave you alone as long as all is well but still have enhanced protection turned on. Short of that, it's not super obvious what to do as presumably if you remove focus from the safe website announcements, you're also going to miss problem alerts. Any ideas? 

Thanks,

Áine


Re: Focus issues with Google's Enhanced protection browsing mode

Gene
 

I just checked.  It appears enhanced protection is on by default.  It is on my browser and I don't recall changing it.  But I don't have the problem you are having.  What screen-reader are you using?

Gene

On 6/21/2022 1:13 PM, Aine Kelly Costello wrote:

Hi all,

I recently turned on Enhanced Protection for browsing which can be found under chrome's settings in the Privacy and Security tab.

Unfortunately for screen reader users, this mode doesn't only tell you about safety breaches, but also about all the safe URLs. I haven't experimented with it that much yet, but on a google search results page, if you arrow down from a given search result heading, after you get to "About this result", the notification about the URLs safe status steels focus and puts the cursor at the top of the page.

This obviously is a nuisance, and I'm not quite sure what the best solution is for now which is why I'm writing here. In an ideal world, it would be possible to set Chrome to only tell you about safety issues and leave you alone as long as all is well but still have enhanced protection turned on. Short of that, it's not super obvious what to do as presumably if you remove focus from the safe website announcements, you're also going to miss problem alerts. Any ideas? 

Thanks,

Áine


Re: Focus issues with Google's Enhanced protection browsing mode

Gene
 

I may play with it.  But since there is a problem, one question is whether it gives you enough additional protection to have it on since it causes a problem.  I don't know how you use web sites but I doubt it does.  If you compare the description of what enhanced browsing does with what standard safety does, I doubt it matters much if someone is careful and checks things if concerned.  For example, just downloading an unsafe file won't cause you to become infected.  If you don't run it, nothing will happen.  If you have good anti malware protection, you probably are getting little extra protection.  Standard safety browsing already tells you about dangerous sites.

Here is a web page where you can compare the two:
https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/9890866?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid

Also, depending on the size of the download, you can send it to a site named Virus Total, where it is analyzed by a lot of antimalware programs and you get a report about the findings.  You would download the file, then send it there. 

Gene

On 6/21/2022 1:13 PM, Aine Kelly Costello wrote:

Hi all,

I recently turned on Enhanced Protection for browsing which can be found under chrome's settings in the Privacy and Security tab.

Unfortunately for screen reader users, this mode doesn't only tell you about safety breaches, but also about all the safe URLs. I haven't experimented with it that much yet, but on a google search results page, if you arrow down from a given search result heading, after you get to "About this result", the notification about the URLs safe status steels focus and puts the cursor at the top of the page.

This obviously is a nuisance, and I'm not quite sure what the best solution is for now which is why I'm writing here. In an ideal world, it would be possible to set Chrome to only tell you about safety issues and leave you alone as long as all is well but still have enhanced protection turned on. Short of that, it's not super obvious what to do as presumably if you remove focus from the safe website announcements, you're also going to miss problem alerts. Any ideas? 

Thanks,

Áine

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