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Re: Actual version of the ifinterpreter addon?

 

If it's been updated, it doesn't seem that the developer has propagated that out. 

From the NVDA Add-Ons Directory (hosted by the Spanish-Speaking NVDA Community Association):  

Automatic speech output for interactive fiction interpreters (IF Interpreters)

1.3 (stable) From NVDA 2017.3 up to 2019.3 IF Interpreters 1.3 (stable)
The developer's page shows 1.3 as the latest release.  I have no idea if this add-on falls into the category where doing nothing more than a manifest update would make it compatible with more recent versions or not.  I would contact the developer directly regarding whether an update is to be issued or not.
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Re: alphanumeric strings as phonetics?

 

Isn't this already handled by the following add-on?:

Enhanced Phonetic Reading (EnhancedPhoneticReading)
add-on

The development channel has been tested with NVDA 2022 and it's rather certain that this will eventually become the production release.  The stable version is tested up through 2021.3
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alphanumeric strings as phonetics?

Chris Smart
 

Would anyone else like to see NVDA be able to pronounce alphanumeric strings using the phonetic alphabet?

This would be useful for Canadian and British postal codes, ham radio call signs, and probably other things as well.

 

L9G3S6 would be Lima 9 Golf 3 Siera 6.

 

Is that something I should post to Github about?

 

Jaws can do this by the way.

 


Re: A weird case that kills NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

I just read your message and nvda doesn’t die. What synth are you using? I’m using the eloquence from AtGuys.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 2:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A weird case that kills NVDA

 

Hello all

 

Here is some weirdness that I will try to describe in some detail. When this happens, it kills speech from NVDA, but the computer is not frozen. If you give the Ctrl+Alt+n command, you hear the NVDA startup sound and it comes back. You do not get the NVDA shutdown sound. Here is what seems to be the cause and how I worked around it:

 

I am using Thunderbird as my email client. The columns in my inbox are set up to show attachments first (if any), followed by From, followed by Subject. As I have been doing email, every now and then I lost all speech and had to restart NVDA, just for it to die again when I got to a particular message. I used Narrator to figure out what the offending message header was and saw that in the From column,it showed "_Congrat_" and nothing in the Subject column, obviously some spam or malware kind of message. I then set up a rule to scan for the string "-Congrat" in the From, To, or Subject fields and to delete such a message. That seems to have worked around the problem.

 

I have no idea why this causes NVDA to go quiet on me, because having the offending text string in my message does not have any negative effect.

 

Kind regards

 

Christo

 


Re: A weird case that kills NVDA

Christo de Klerk
 

I am using the SAPI version of Vocalizer, the South African English voice, Tessa. Yes, it is quite possible that Tessa is getting choked up, not NVDA as such. I'll give your suggestion a go some time.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2022/07/02 01:33pm, Gene wrote:

I don't know why having the string in that particular place causes a problem.  Perhaps there are no spaces and when you write it elsewhere, you have spaces before and after it.  What synthesizer are you using?  It is most likely that the string causes the synthesizer to crash.  If you are curious enough, you can disable the rule and look at  a message using a different synthesizer.

Gene

On 7/2/2022 4:45 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:

Hello all


Here is some weirdness that I will try to describe in some detail. When this happens, it kills speech from NVDA, but the computer is not frozen. If you give the Ctrl+Alt+n command, you hear the NVDA startup sound and it comes back. You do not get the NVDA shutdown sound. Here is what seems to be the cause and how I worked around it:


I am using Thunderbird as my email client. The columns in my inbox are set up to show attachments first (if any), followed by From, followed by Subject. As I have been doing email, every now and then I lost all speech and had to restart NVDA, just for it to die again when I got to a particular message. I used Narrator to figure out what the offending message header was and saw that in the From column,it showed "_Congrat_" and nothing in the Subject column, obviously some spam or malware kind of message. I then set up a rule to scan for the string "-Congrat" in the From, To, or Subject fields and to delete such a message. That seems to have worked around the problem.


I have no idea why this causes NVDA to go quiet on me, because having the offending text string in my message does not have any negative effect.


Kind regards


Christo





Re: A weird case that kills NVDA

Gene
 

I don't know why having the string in that particular place causes a problem.  Perhaps there are no spaces and when you write it elsewhere, you have spaces before and after it.  What synthesizer are you using?  It is most likely that the string causes the synthesizer to crash.  If you are curious enough, you can disable the rule and look at  a message using a different synthesizer.

Gene

On 7/2/2022 4:45 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:

Hello all


Here is some weirdness that I will try to describe in some detail. When this happens, it kills speech from NVDA, but the computer is not frozen. If you give the Ctrl+Alt+n command, you hear the NVDA startup sound and it comes back. You do not get the NVDA shutdown sound. Here is what seems to be the cause and how I worked around it:


I am using Thunderbird as my email client. The columns in my inbox are set up to show attachments first (if any), followed by From, followed by Subject. As I have been doing email, every now and then I lost all speech and had to restart NVDA, just for it to die again when I got to a particular message. I used Narrator to figure out what the offending message header was and saw that in the From column,it showed "_Congrat_" and nothing in the Subject column, obviously some spam or malware kind of message. I then set up a rule to scan for the string "-Congrat" in the From, To, or Subject fields and to delete such a message. That seems to have worked around the problem.


I have no idea why this causes NVDA to go quiet on me, because having the offending text string in my message does not have any negative effect.


Kind regards


Christo




A weird case that kills NVDA

Christo de Klerk
 

Hello all


Here is some weirdness that I will try to describe in some detail. When this happens, it kills speech from NVDA, but the computer is not frozen. If you give the Ctrl+Alt+n command, you hear the NVDA startup sound and it comes back. You do not get the NVDA shutdown sound. Here is what seems to be the cause and how I worked around it:


I am using Thunderbird as my email client. The columns in my inbox are set up to show attachments first (if any), followed by From, followed by Subject. As I have been doing email, every now and then I lost all speech and had to restart NVDA, just for it to die again when I got to a particular message. I used Narrator to figure out what the offending message header was and saw that in the From column,it showed "_Congrat_" and nothing in the Subject column, obviously some spam or malware kind of message. I then set up a rule to scan for the string "-Congrat" in the From, To, or Subject fields and to delete such a message. That seems to have worked around the problem.


I have no idea why this causes NVDA to go quiet on me, because having the offending text string in my message does not have any negative effect.


Kind regards


Christo



Re: Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials 22.07 released #addonrelease

Brian's Mail list account
 

Which begs the question, if somebody is on the older version of nvda, and we are only talking late last year to part of this year here,has the current updater, etc been made so we don't get offered it on such machines?
Brian

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Sent: Friday, July 01, 2022 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials 22.07 released #addonrelease


Hi,

Yes but not for long. The just released add-on updates will be one of the last releases to be compatible with NVDA 2021.3.x. End of compatibility with 2021.3.x depends on when 2022.2 is released, and I will give you at least 30 days notice before asking you to upgrade NVDA.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials 22.07 released #addonrelease

Brian's Mail list account
 

A weird one for you, unfortunately it only happened after the update to .07. For some odd reason it put the computer in editors, toggled so insert was in over write. I could not toggle it back the other way, so had to reboot the computer, and then its seemed fine again.

Brian

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From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2022 2:19 PM
Subject: [nvda] Add-on Updater and Widnows App Essentials 22.07 released #AddonRelease


Hi all,

Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials 22.07 is now available via Add-on
Updater and other channels. Highlights include localization updates and bug
fixes.

Changelog:

* Add-on Updater: add-on download progress dialog is now centered on
screen. Thanks to work from Luke Davis, parts of the add-on source code was
cleaned up.
* Windows App Essentials: this is the first add-on release to support
upcoming Windows 11 Version 22H2 (build 22621). If you are using Widows 10,
unsupported Windows release dialog will now show list of supported releases.
In Mail app, table navigation commands used in mail items is deprecated and
will be removed in a future release.



Enjoy the new add-on releases.

Cheers,

Joseph


Actual version of the ifinterpreter addon?

Anne Günther
 

Hi,
I'm tidying up my addons and realized I still have the ifInterpreter version 1.3 which is incompatible by now. After googling it, I know that it has been updated, but I couldn't find any link to an actual version. Can anybody tell me where I can find it?

best wishes, Guenni


Re: Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials 22.07 released #addonrelease

 

Hi,

Yes but not for long. The just released add-on updates will be one of the last releases to be compatible with NVDA 2021.3.x. End of compatibility with 2021.3.x depends on when 2022.2 is released, and I will give you at least 30 days notice before asking you to upgrade NVDA.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Less Verbosity In Task Manager?

Chris Smart
 

Yes, I know about typing the partial name of what I am looking for.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: July 1, 2022 12:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Less Verbosity In Task Manager?

 

I don't know why, if you are in the details view, you hear those things.  Do you know what you are looking for and its name in the list?  If you type the first letter or the first two or three letters if there are many items with the same first and second letters, you will move immediately to the item if there is only one.  In other words, if you type mai for example and there is just one item called mail, you will move to it.  I don't know if there is something called mail in the list but that is an example.  The more letters you type if there is something that has many of the same first letters as others, the more likely you are to be on the item.  So even with a lot of verbosity, it will be much faster than up and down arrowing  or just typing the first letter repeatedly. 

I didn't change the details because what you are hearing has nothing to do with the details shown.  You are hearing announcements about the interface, that the item is in a grouping, for example.

Gene

On 7/1/2022 11:03 AM, Chris Smart wrote:

Hi. Thanks for this. I active the “fewer details” button, and still hear:

List of items data grid, list of items of items, Process: Microsoft Outlook.

This is in windows 10 by the way. I probably forgot to include that detail.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: July 1, 2022 12:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Less Verbosity In Task Manager?

 

 

 

I don't have Windows 11 and I don't know if this has changed.  In Windows 10, you won't see all the same things but you can get to a list of processes that is similar to the list in Windows 7 in the Task Manager.  Once you open it, use the command control tab many times to get to a part of the dialog called details.
I believe you have to tab once to get to the list. 

In Windows 10, you shouldn't hear excessive verbosity and you can move through the list in the same way as in Windows 7.

Gene

On 7/1/2022 10:31 AM, Chris Smart wrote:

I find Task  Manager to be very verbose, at least when navigating the list of processes to disable something.

 

Here’s an example of what I hear, after I arrow to Microsoft Outlook in the list.

 

List of items  list

Apps  grouping

Process: Microsoft Outlook

 

I’ve explored document options in NVDA Settings, and can’t seem to reduce this much.

Am I missing something simple and obvious?

 

Thanks

Chris

 

 

 


Re: Less Verbosity In Task Manager?

Gene
 

I don't know why, if you are in the details view, you hear those things.  Do you know what you are looking for and its name in the list?  If you type the first letter or the first two or three letters if there are many items with the same first and second letters, you will move immediately to the item if there is only one.  In other words, if you type mai for example and there is just one item called mail, you will move to it.  I don't know if there is something called mail in the list but that is an example.  The more letters you type if there is something that has many of the same first letters as others, the more likely you are to be on the item.  So even with a lot of verbosity, it will be much faster than up and down arrowing  or just typing the first letter repeatedly. 

I didn't change the details because what you are hearing has nothing to do with the details shown.  You are hearing announcements about the interface, that the item is in a grouping, for example.

Gene

On 7/1/2022 11:03 AM, Chris Smart wrote:

Hi. Thanks for this. I active the “fewer details” button, and still hear:

List of items data grid, list of items of items, Process: Microsoft Outlook.

This is in windows 10 by the way. I probably forgot to include that detail.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: July 1, 2022 12:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Less Verbosity In Task Manager?

 

 

 

I don't have Windows 11 and I don't know if this has changed.  In Windows 10, you won't see all the same things but you can get to a list of processes that is similar to the list in Windows 7 in the Task Manager.  Once you open it, use the command control tab many times to get to a part of the dialog called details.
I believe you have to tab once to get to the list. 

In Windows 10, you shouldn't hear excessive verbosity and you can move through the list in the same way as in Windows 7.

Gene

On 7/1/2022 10:31 AM, Chris Smart wrote:

I find Task  Manager to be very verbose, at least when navigating the list of processes to disable something.

 

Here’s an example of what I hear, after I arrow to Microsoft Outlook in the list.

 

List of items  list

Apps  grouping

Process: Microsoft Outlook

 

I’ve explored document options in NVDA Settings, and can’t seem to reduce this much.

Am I missing something simple and obvious?

 

Thanks

Chris

 

 



Re: Less Verbosity In Task Manager?

Chris Smart
 

Hi. Thanks for this. I active the “fewer details” button, and still hear:

List of items data grid, list of items of items, Process: Microsoft Outlook.

This is in windows 10 by the way. I probably forgot to include that detail.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: July 1, 2022 12:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Less Verbosity In Task Manager?

 

 

 

I don't have Windows 11 and I don't know if this has changed.  In Windows 10, you won't see all the same things but you can get to a list of processes that is similar to the list in Windows 7 in the Task Manager.  Once you open it, use the command control tab many times to get to a part of the dialog called details.
I believe you have to tab once to get to the list. 

In Windows 10, you shouldn't hear excessive verbosity and you can move through the list in the same way as in Windows 7.

Gene

On 7/1/2022 10:31 AM, Chris Smart wrote:

I find Task  Manager to be very verbose, at least when navigating the list of processes to disable something.

 

Here’s an example of what I hear, after I arrow to Microsoft Outlook in the list.

 

List of items  list

Apps  grouping

Process: Microsoft Outlook

 

I’ve explored document options in NVDA Settings, and can’t seem to reduce this much.

Am I missing something simple and obvious?

 

Thanks

Chris

 

 


Re: Less Verbosity In Task Manager?

Gene
 

I don't have Windows 11 and I don't know if this has changed.  In Windows 10, you won't see all the same things but you can get to a list of processes that is similar to the list in Windows 7 in the Task Manager.  Once you open it, use the command control tab many times to get to a part of the dialog called details.
I believe you have to tab once to get to the list. 

In Windows 10, you shouldn't hear excessive verbosity and you can move through the list in the same way as in Windows 7.

Gene

On 7/1/2022 10:31 AM, Chris Smart wrote:

I find Task  Manager to be very verbose, at least when navigating the list of processes to disable something.

 

Here’s an example of what I hear, after I arrow to Microsoft Outlook in the list.

 

List of items  list

Apps  grouping

Process: Microsoft Outlook

 

I’ve explored document options in NVDA Settings, and can’t seem to reduce this much.

Am I missing something simple and obvious?

 

Thanks

Chris

 



Re: Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials 22.07 released #addonrelease

Gerardo Corripio
 

Awesome! Thanks for these tips for future. So I'll go ahead and update these 2 then.

Gera
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El 1 jul 2022, a la(s) 10:27 a.m., Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> escribió:

On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 11:16 AM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
And are these backward compatible, with NVDA 2021.3.5?
-
The answer to this question is, "Yes."

I would ask all members who have questions about the compatibility of any NVDA Add-On with a specific version of NVDA to consult the NVDA Community Add-Ons Site

 

 and/or the NVDA Add-Ons Directory (hosted by the Spanish-Speaking NVDA Community Association) since both routinely have compatibility information listed for each and every add-on. 
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        ~ Dorothy Nevill


Less Verbosity In Task Manager?

Chris Smart
 

I find Task  Manager to be very verbose, at least when navigating the list of processes to disable something.

 

Here’s an example of what I hear, after I arrow to Microsoft Outlook in the list.

 

List of items  list

Apps  grouping

Process: Microsoft Outlook

 

I’ve explored document options in NVDA Settings, and can’t seem to reduce this much.

Am I missing something simple and obvious?

 

Thanks

Chris

 


Re: Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials 22.07 released #addonrelease

 
Edited

On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 11:16 AM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
And are these backward compatible, with NVDA 2021.3.5?
-
The answer to this question is, "Yes."

I would ask all members who have questions about the compatibility of any NVDA Add-On with a specific version of NVDA to consult the NVDA Community Add-Ons Site

and/or the NVDA Add-Ons Directory (hosted by the Spanish-Speaking NVDA Community Association) since both routinely have compatibility information listed for each and every add-on. 
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Re: Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials 22.07 released #addonrelease

Gerardo Corripio
 

And are these backward compatible, with NVDA 2021.3.5? I haven't updated mine yet because of the Input Gesture bug mentioned before.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 1 jul 2022, a la(s) 8:19 a.m., Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> escribió:



Hi all,

Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials 22.07 is now available via Add-on Updater and other channels. Highlights include localization updates and bug fixes.

Changelog:

  • Add-on Updater: add-on download progress dialog is now centered on screen. Thanks to work from Luke Davis, parts of the add-on source code was cleaned up.
  • Windows App Essentials: this is the first add-on release to support upcoming Windows 11 Version 22H2 (build 22621). If you are using Widows 10, unsupported Windows release dialog will now show list of supported releases. In Mail app, table navigation commands used in mail items is deprecated and will be removed in a future release.

 

Enjoy the new add-on releases.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials 22.07 released #addonrelease

anthony borg
 

Many thanks Joseph.

Best regards

 

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 01 July 2022 14:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Add-on Updater and Widnows App Essentials 22.07 released #AddonRelease

 

Hi all,

Add-on Updater and Windows App Essentials 22.07 is now available via Add-on Updater and other channels. Highlights include localization updates and bug fixes.

Changelog:

  • Add-on Updater: add-on download progress dialog is now centered on screen. Thanks to work from Luke Davis, parts of the add-on source code was cleaned up.
  • Windows App Essentials: this is the first add-on release to support upcoming Windows 11 Version 22H2 (build 22621). If you are using Widows 10, unsupported Windows release dialog will now show list of supported releases. In Mail app, table navigation commands used in mail items is deprecated and will be removed in a future release.

 

Enjoy the new add-on releases.

Cheers,

Joseph

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