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Re: Email atachments

Peter Beasley
 

Thanks! Will try that.
 

From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email atachments
 
Assuming you are using the ribbon version, issue the command alt v, then v again, then w.
You are in a menu. 
Down arrow to columns or something with similar wording. 
Press eter.
Up and down arrow to see the different columns.  I didn't play with this but once you get to attachments, if you tab, you should see a move up and a move down button.  Active whichever button you want with the space bar as many times as you want. 
I believe there is an ok button you tab to and activate after making whatever changes you want.
I didn't check. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email atachments
 
How do you do that?
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email atachments
 
If you change the order of the fields, that should determine what is read in which order.  Personally, I have no objection to having NVDA saying attachment first by default, I don't have a preference but my point is that you should be able to already determine the order within the program. 

Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 6:19 AM
Subject: [nvda] Email atachments
 
I use Windows live mail and it would be nice if NVDA could say has attachment before the subject like outlook express rather than after.


Re: Help with tap and Radio

David Goldfield
 

The first thing I should mention about Tapinradio is that pressing f1
brings up a list of shortcut keys.

The quickest way to search for a station is to press ctrl+E.

Enter a call sign or a name.

At this point, pressing ctrl+Q moves into the list of possible search
results.

Press enter to play a station in the list.

ctrl+s stops the audio.

Ctrl+p will play it.

David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 10/15/2016 10:01 AM, brennenkinch@gmail.com wrote:
Hi I am new to tap and Radio and I am trying to figure out how to use it with NVDA i can't seem to be able to find and play a station any help either on or off list would be appritiated thanks

Sent from my iPhone


Re: Email atachments

Gene
 

Assuming you are using the ribbon version, issue the command alt v, then v again, then w.
You are in a menu. 
Down arrow to columns or something with similar wording. 
Press eter.
Up and down arrow to see the different columns.  I didn't play with this but once you get to attachments, if you tab, you should see a move up and a move down button.  Active whichever button you want with the space bar as many times as you want. 
I believe there is an ok button you tab to and activate after making whatever changes you want.
I didn't check. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email atachments

How do you do that?
 
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email atachments
 
If you change the order of the fields, that should determine what is read in which order.  Personally, I have no objection to having NVDA saying attachment first by default, I don't have a preference but my point is that you should be able to already determine the order within the program. 

Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 6:19 AM
Subject: [nvda] Email atachments
 
I use Windows live mail and it would be nice if NVDA could say has attachment before the subject like outlook express rather than after.


Re: Help with tap and Radio

David Goldfield
 

Hi.

Tapinradio is a Windows program that allows you to listen to radio stations from around the world. The link for the program is

www.tapinradio.com


      David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info
On 10/15/2016 12:20 PM, Георги Ламбов wrote:

   Hi people!

The explanations are wonderful and they'll be also useful

for me but! Which program is tab and radio? I know several programs for listening of radio but I've never heard about tab and radio. Would you like to give me link to download and try it?
Cheers! My beer also is wonderful!
Georgi
На 15.10.2016 г. в 17:47 ч., Gene написа:
Have you tabbed around the program and looked through the menus?  When the program opens, you are in a search field.  You may either search for something such as a station or a state or a country or for an organization such as national public radio, the name of the organization that many stations use in their names in The United states, or, though I haven't done this, I suspect you can search for a format such as jazz.  When you have typed your search, shift tab once.  You will be in the results.  Down arrow through them.  You can also use first letter navigation.  Press enter on something if you want it to play.  You can add the station to favorites if you wish.  Control a opens favorites.  Press enter to add the current station.  Favorites work as expected.  Open the favorites menu with alt a and then down arrow to see them. 
 
There are many other ways to work with the program.  I'll let others discuss those if they wish.  for now, remember that f2 starts play if you are already at a station and f2 also stops play.  For example, if you stop play of a radio station, f2 will start play again.  It will do this even if you close the program and open it again. 
 
In the main window, use the command f1 to bring up a list of short cuts.  Close the list with escape. 
Look through menus and dialogs.  Also, I believe shift f1 opens online help in your default browser. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 9:01 AM
Subject: [nvda] Help with tap and Radio

Hi I am new to tap and Radio and I am trying to figure out how to use it with NVDA i can't seem to be able to find and play a station any help either on or off list would be appritiated thanks

Sent from my iPhone





Re: Email atachments

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

This is because sometimes the graphic used in say a sig line or header in the html version of the email is sent as an attachment. It is there but is all rather pointless.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Monte Single" <mrsingle@sasktel.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email atachments


Same subject; different twist.

I use m s outlook 2013; quite often says attachment when there is none.

Suggestions??



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter
Beasley
Sent: October-15-16 5:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Email atachments



I use Windows live mail and it would be nice if NVDA could say has
attachment before the subject like outlook express rather than after.




Re: Email atachments

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

I actually use Outlook express slightly modified on later versions of windows. are we saying then that live mail does not have a layout option?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley23@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 12:19 PM
Subject: [nvda] Email atachments


I use Windows live mail and it would be nice if NVDA could say has attachment before the subject like outlook express rather than after.


Re: Help with tap and Radio

Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@...>
 

   Hi people!

The explanations are wonderful and they'll be also useful

for me but! Which program is tab and radio? I know several programs for listening of radio but I've never heard about tab and radio. Would you like to give me link to download and try it?
Cheers! My beer also is wonderful!
Georgi
На 15.10.2016 г. в 17:47 ч., Gene написа:

Have you tabbed around the program and looked through the menus?  When the program opens, you are in a search field.  You may either search for something such as a station or a state or a country or for an organization such as national public radio, the name of the organization that many stations use in their names in The United states, or, though I haven't done this, I suspect you can search for a format such as jazz.  When you have typed your search, shift tab once.  You will be in the results.  Down arrow through them.  You can also use first letter navigation.  Press enter on something if you want it to play.  You can add the station to favorites if you wish.  Control a opens favorites.  Press enter to add the current station.  Favorites work as expected.  Open the favorites menu with alt a and then down arrow to see them. 
 
There are many other ways to work with the program.  I'll let others discuss those if they wish.  for now, remember that f2 starts play if you are already at a station and f2 also stops play.  For example, if you stop play of a radio station, f2 will start play again.  It will do this even if you close the program and open it again. 
 
In the main window, use the command f1 to bring up a list of short cuts.  Close the list with escape. 
Look through menus and dialogs.  Also, I believe shift f1 opens online help in your default browser. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 9:01 AM
Subject: [nvda] Help with tap and Radio

Hi I am new to tap and Radio and I am trying to figure out how to use it with NVDA i can't seem to be able to find and play a station any help either on or off list would be appritiated thanks

Sent from my iPhone




Re: Email atachments

Peter Beasley
 

How do you do that?
 

From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email atachments
 
If you change the order of the fields, that should determine what is read in which order.  Personally, I have no objection to having NVDA saying attachment first by default, I don't have a preference but my point is that you should be able to already determine the order within the program. 

Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 6:19 AM
Subject: [nvda] Email atachments
 
I use Windows live mail and it would be nice if NVDA could say has attachment before the subject like outlook express rather than after.


Re: Help with tap and Radio

Gene
 

Have you tabbed around the program and looked through the menus?  When the program opens, you are in a search field.  You may either search for something such as a station or a state or a country or for an organization such as national public radio, the name of the organization that many stations use in their names in The United states, or, though I haven't done this, I suspect you can search for a format such as jazz.  When you have typed your search, shift tab once.  You will be in the results.  Down arrow through them.  You can also use first letter navigation.  Press enter on something if you want it to play.  You can add the station to favorites if you wish.  Control a opens favorites.  Press enter to add the current station.  Favorites work as expected.  Open the favorites menu with alt a and then down arrow to see them. 
 
There are many other ways to work with the program.  I'll let others discuss those if they wish.  for now, remember that f2 starts play if you are already at a station and f2 also stops play.  For example, if you stop play of a radio station, f2 will start play again.  It will do this even if you close the program and open it again. 
 
In the main window, use the command f1 to bring up a list of short cuts.  Close the list with escape. 
Look through menus and dialogs.  Also, I believe shift f1 opens online help in your default browser. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 9:01 AM
Subject: [nvda] Help with tap and Radio

Hi I am new to tap and Radio and I am trying to figure out how to use it with NVDA i can't seem to be able to find and play a station any help either on or off list would be appritiated thanks

Sent from my iPhone



Help with tap and Radio

Brennen Kinch
 

Hi I am new to tap and Radio and I am trying to figure out how to use it with NVDA i can't seem to be able to find and play a station any help either on or off list would be appritiated thanks

Sent from my iPhone


Re: Email atachments

Gene
 

If you change the order of the fields, that should determine what is read in which order.  Personally, I have no objection to having NVDA saying attachment first by default, I don't have a preference but my point is that you should be able to already determine the order within the program. 

Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 6:19 AM
Subject: [nvda] Email atachments

I use Windows live mail and it would be nice if NVDA could say has attachment before the subject like outlook express rather than after.


Re: FW: [Nvda-devel] Contracted braille input: testing in the next snapshot

Devin Prater
 

Thank you, Jamie, for all this. I've tried it, and writing "computer" in English US, grade 2 doesn't work, neither does using computer braille indicators, like 4-5-6, 3-4-6 to enter things like emoticons, although I guess that is a rather cheap way of getting around the ambiguity of US braille. Besides those little things though, input works wonderfully so far.


On 10/13/2016 3:10 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

Amendment from Jamie: please use GitHub or NVDA development list to report issues rather than sending a tweet or email to him. Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: James Teh [mailto:jamie@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 1:06 PM
To: NVDA screen reader development <nvda-devel@...>
Subject: Re: [Nvda-devel] Contracted braille input: testing in the next snapshot

 

Please use GitHub or this list to report feedback, rather than emailing or tweeting me directly. Thanks.

Sent from a mobile device


On 14 Oct. 2016, at 3:11 am, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

For some time, NV Access and other contributors were researching methods of letting users input text using contracted braille via a braille display. -I’m delighted to announce that  a test version (in the form of a next branch snapshot) is now available (next-13643).

More information on this effort can be found at:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2439
And:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6449

 

Issues to be tested include:

*General experience when entering text in contracted braille in various situations.

* Entering text using various tables, including Unified English Braille (UEB), various English and other language tables and others.

* Other unexpected situations.

 

If you have feedback:

·         GitHub users: please comment on issues 2439 and/or 6449.

·         Send an email to James Teh (NV Access) at Jamie@....

·         Contact braille contributors, including I (Joseph Lee; new UEB table set, Korean braille tables and BrailleNote), Leonard (HIMS products), Davy Kager (Liblouis and Dutch tables), Michel Such (French translator), Derek Riemer (UEB input tester) and others.

·         Some of us have Twitter handles (Jamie’s is @jcsteh, mine is @joslee, Derek’s is @derekriemer) and others. You can also use #NVDASR hashtag or mention @NVAccess.

 

As this is an important feature, please test this feature widely. Thanks, and I and others look forward to reading your feedback.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

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Re: Email attachments

Antony Stone
 

There may in fact be an attachment which you don't think of as one, but the
computer does.

The two commonest reasons for this are:

1. People who send emails with a "business card" style signature at the
bottom, giving their contact details - that is often attached to the email
using a format which can be imported into an address book application, or sent
to a mobile phone etc.

2. People who send emails in both plain text and HTML format - your email
client will be set to show you one of these by default, and often regards the
other one as an attachment, even though as far as you're concerned the content
is exactly the same.

Hope that helps,

Antony.

On Saturday 15 October 2016 at 13:33:56, Monte Single wrote:

Same subject; different twist.

I use m s outlook 2013; quite often says attachment when there is none.

Suggestions??
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Re: Email atachments

Monte Single
 

Same subject; different twist.

I use m s outlook 2013; quite often says attachment when there is none.

Suggestions??

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: October-15-16 5:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Email atachments

 

I use Windows live mail and it would be nice if NVDA could say has attachment before the subject like outlook express rather than after.


Email atachments

Peter Beasley
 

I use Windows live mail and it would be nice if NVDA could say has attachment before the subject like outlook express rather than after.


Re: i'm searching for a solution.

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

I think this would probably need an app module to do this.
Often it depends on how the field descriptor is flagged to a screenreader.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 6:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] i'm searching for a solution.


hello all,
i'm searching for a solution it is as follows:
i have a programm, in dutch for family tree research.
nvda will open the fields without any problem.
but before the field you can read what kind of information you have to write there.
so as example there is a field called surname.
but surname as in this example will not be mentioned.
we only have an opened field.
but the most strange is, when we are using jaws, jaws will open the field and mention also the name.
what can i do with settings of nvda to read the name while opening the field?
is there a solution?
i've noticed that there are more examples where nvda opens a field but without mention the name of the field.
it is not in all situations but in some!!!
which is very inconvenient and annoying if you do not know what needs to be typed into that field.
is there a solution for it?
greets
paul otter


Re: getting the repeting of the subject line in an e-mail to stop repeting when you open a message

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Depends on your spellchecker, but certainly word allows you to put in custom words or special words if you want to, at least my old 2003 does and I think its called Add in most spellcheckers.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Casey" <cwollner@wi.rr.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 5:19 PM
Subject: [nvda] getting the repeting of the subject line in an e-mail to stop repeting when you open a message


Hi now every time I open A message.
I hear the subject line of the message before the message starts reading.
Is that I way to get rid of that or not?
Also I turned off reports of headings under document formatting.
And I still hear level 1 or level two when I go to my e-mail inbox or my sent folders or my deleted folders how do I get that to stop or is that just something that NVDA now does?
Now also one last thing.
How do you add NVDA to your spelling words to if you want to put the word NVDA in yourmessage it won't flag it as A mussed spelled word?


--
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Re: how do mkae NVDA stop saying level 1 or level 2 when i go to different things`

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

This is usually on a tree view to let you know where you are in the tree, sideways if you like, folders within folders etc.
You would be a bit confused if you turn it off and as long as you hear what you want you can just interrupt it with the next command in any case.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Casey" <cwollner@wi.rr.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 4:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] how do mkae NVDA stop saying level 1 or level 2 when i go to different things`


Hi I ma using the latest NVDA and every time I go threw my e-mail inbox.
It says level 1 or level 2 when I get to different parts of my mail program.
Where do I go to get this to stop?


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Re: New Window Information

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Most of te time even if its on it still does not read, and says something like info, one has to refresh the page. I'm wondering if this is a recent Firefox issue where it misses sending the I have finished alert. These lerts have a mind of their own....
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@nvaccess.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Window Information


Hi Rob,

Yes if you go into the Browse mode settings - NVDA+control+b - there is an
option for "Automatic say all on page load" which controls, you guessed it,
whether the page starts reading when it finishes loading. Uncheck that to
stop it. If you want it to do an automatic say all in some browse mode
programs but not others, you can setup separate configuration profiles for
different programs.

Straight keys to press are in the user guide:
http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html?

More detailed walkthrough and activities in the Basic Training for NVDA
training module: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 3:38 AM, Rob <captinlogic@gmail.com> wrote:

Is there a way to set NVDA to read only the currently active control when
you enter a dialog, rather than the whole window?





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Re: New Window Information

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Would this not be rather dangerous, as it might be as in many installers that you need to tab to find options, not just accept the default control.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob" <captinlogic@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 5:38 PM
Subject: [nvda] New Window Information


Is there a way to set NVDA to read only the currently active control when you enter a dialog, rather than the whole window?