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Re: New version of TesseractOCR add-on

Rui Fontes
 

That is not possible since we do not know how long the process will take...


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 06:43 de 14/07/2022, Ravindran V.S. escreveu:

Hello,

- Introduced beeps to signal the add-on is working;""
This is a great and useful addition. Keeps us informed that the OCR is running. Better if it could be a progress beep like in NVDA. So that we could be aware what percentage is completed.

Thanks,
Ravi.
V.S.Ravindran.
Excuses leads to failure!””

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New version of TesseractOCR add-on

Hello!


From 2022.06 to 2022.06.27:

- Updated Tesseract from version 5.0 Alpha (64-bit) to 5.1 (32-bit);
- Added several more recognition languages;
- Introduced the option to select a second language to be used in OCR of documents with multiple languages and a button to forget it;
- Introduced a new document type, "With auto-orientation", that allows the OCR engine to rotate the image as necessary;
- Introduced beeps to signal the add-on is working;
- Corrected code to avoid the non population of the download languages combobox;
- Corrected a problem with controlTypes roles preventing compatibility with NVDA 2020.4;
- Added russian translation.


From 2022.06.27 to 2022.07:

- Allow using any number of recognition languages;
- Complete code re-wrote, including:
- Split in various modules to make code clear;
- End using batch files;
- Allow recognize files on Desktop;
- Added translation to spanish, french, russian and ukranian.


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 07:12 de 13/07/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io escreveu:
What is the difference between the old and new ones?
Brian








Re: New version of TesseractOCR add-on

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


Since version 2022.06.27, it uses Tesseract 5.1 for 32-bit...

So, it is very strange...


By the way, you can update to version 2022.07.13, already released...

The changes are:

- Corrected the threading for the update routine;
- Updated turkish translation;
- Small code corrections...


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team



Às 02:23 de 14/07/2022, mk360 escreveu:

Hi,

About the version, is 2022.7, but it happened when I installed the version that uses Sesseract 5.1 because I run it in a 32 b system.

Note that the english language worked when I installed that version, but spanish doesn't.

El 13/07/2022 a las 21:14, Rui Fontes escribió:
Hello!


Wich version of tesseractOCR?

Your system is 32 or 64-bit?


Cumprimentos,

Rui Fontes
Equipa portuguesa do NVDA



Às 00:49 de 14/07/2022, mk360 escreveu:
Hi,

Two problems here:

If I set spanish as my preffered language I gives an error and never display ocr.txt, this is the log using control windows r:

ERROR - stderr (19:42:00.880) - Thread-22 (5292):
Exception in thread Thread-22:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "threading.pyc", line 926, in _bootstrap_inner
  File "threading.pyc", line 870, in run
  File "C:\Users\usuario\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\tesseractOCR\globalPlugins\tesseractOCR\__init__.py", line 176, in _doRoutines
    self.convertPDFToPNG()
  File "C:\Users\usuario\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\tesseractOCR\globalPlugins\tesseractOCR\__init__.py", line 113, in convertPDFToPNG
    self.backgroundProcessing(command)
  File "C:\Users\usuario\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\tesseractOCR\globalPlugins\tesseractOCR\__init__.py", line 103, in backgroundProcessing
    p = subprocess.Popen(self.command, stdin=subprocess.PIPE, stdout=subprocess.PIPE, stderr=subprocess.PIPE, startupinfo=si)
  File "subprocess.pyc", line 800, in __init__
  File "subprocess.pyc", line 1207, in _execute_child
OSError: [WinError 216] Esta versión de %1 no es compatible con la versión de Windows que está ejecutando. Compruebe la información de sistema del equipo para consultar si necesita una versión x86 (32 bits) o x64 (64 bits) del programa, y después póngase en contacto con el editor del software


Also, sometimes when I start NVDA it never speak and I need to restart it, here is the log when it start finally with voice feedback:

NVDA initialized
ERROR - unhandled exception (19:46:35.521) - MainThread (2396):
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "wx\core.pyc", line 3407, in <lambda>
  File "C:\Users\usuario\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\tesseractOCR\globalPlugins\tesseractOCR\update.py", line 80, in upgradeVerify
    r = urllib.request.urlopen(p).read()
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 222, in urlopen
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 525, in open
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 543, in _open
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 503, in _call_chain
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 1393, in https_open
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 1350, in do_open
  File "http\client.pyc", line 1277, in request
  File "http\client.pyc", line 1323, in _send_request
  File "http\client.pyc", line 1272, in endheaders
  File "http\client.pyc", line 1032, in _send_output
  File "http\client.pyc", line 972, in send
  File "http\client.pyc", line 1439, in connect
  File "http\client.pyc", line 944, in connect
  File "socket.pyc", line 707, in create_connection
  File "socket.pyc", line 752, in getaddrinfo
LookupError: unknown encoding: idna

El 13/07/2022 a las 7:26, Rui Fontes escribió:
Hello!


From 2022.06 to 2022.06.27:

- Updated Tesseract from version 5.0 Alpha (64-bit) to 5.1 (32-bit);
- Added several more recognition languages;
- Introduced the option to select a second language to be used in OCR of documents with multiple languages and a button to forget it;
- Introduced a new document type, "With auto-orientation", that allows the OCR engine to rotate the image as necessary;
- Introduced beeps to signal the add-on is working;
- Corrected code to avoid the non population of the download languages combobox;
- Corrected a problem with controlTypes roles preventing compatibility with NVDA 2020.4;
- Added russian translation.


From 2022.06.27 to 2022.07:

- Allow using any number of recognition languages;
- Complete code re-wrote, including:
    - Split in various modules to make code clear;
    - End using batch files;
    - Allow recognize files on Desktop;
- Added translation to spanish, french, russian and ukranian.


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 07:12 de 13/07/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io escreveu:
What is the difference between the old and new ones?
Brian












Re: Reading WEB Pages

Brian's Mail list account
 

I don't think this is the issue here. If you go to desktop then toggle back does it work then? I've seen this effect on machines with slow processors or little ram. I guess the data to enable the browsing gets lost or something. Also always use the 64 bit version of a browser, as sometimes this seems to screw up accessibility. Until we know the browser involved, then we are just guessing.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "tim" <z2004a1@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading WEB Pages


Not sure why but I also had that problem on 2 different computers and
for that last 3 years of NVDA updates.

I fixed it by going into NVDA preferences, settings, advanced.

Then tab and hit space bar. Now you can tab to use UIA with edge and
other chrome based browsers. you want to set that to no. Now every thing
will show in the browser.


On 7/13/2022 2:30 PM, Steven Hicks wrote:

Hi all,

new install of Microsoft Windows 10 and NvDA.

When I open a web page, I cannot move around to read it with the arrow
keys, it only responds to the tab key, any ideas why please?

Many thanks in anticipation,


Re: NVDA 2022.2 RC 1 now available

Brian's Mail list account
 

Yes working here as well. Don't notice much difference to the current release on this windows 7 machine.
Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2022.2 RC 1 now available


Hi, Quentin,



I just downloaded this new release candidate and so-far it’s working great. Thanks so much for all that you and the other NVDA developers do for us.



Rosemarie







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From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 1:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2022.2 RC 1 now available



Hi everyone,



NVDA 2022.2 RC1 is now available! As a release candidate build, this is the final step before the stable build. We encourage ALL users to please download and test this. If any issues are identified, it is easier to address them now before the stable version comes out.

NVDA 2022.2 includes many bug fixes. Notably, there are significant improvements for Java based applications, braille displays and Windows features.

New table navigation commands have been introduced. Unicode CLDR has been updated. LibLouis has been updated, which includes a new German braille table.



Read more and download the RC from https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2022-2rc1/



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Re: New version of TesseractOCR add-on

Ravindran V.S.
 

Hello,

- Introduced beeps to signal the add-on is working;""
This is a great and useful addition. Keeps us informed that the OCR is running. Better if it could be a progress beep like in NVDA. So that we could be aware what percentage is completed.

Thanks,
Ravi.
V.S.Ravindran.
Excuses leads to failure!””

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New version of TesseractOCR add-on

Hello!


From 2022.06 to 2022.06.27:

- Updated Tesseract from version 5.0 Alpha (64-bit) to 5.1 (32-bit);
- Added several more recognition languages;
- Introduced the option to select a second language to be used in OCR of documents with multiple languages and a button to forget it;
- Introduced a new document type, "With auto-orientation", that allows the OCR engine to rotate the image as necessary;
- Introduced beeps to signal the add-on is working;
- Corrected code to avoid the non population of the download languages combobox;
- Corrected a problem with controlTypes roles preventing compatibility with NVDA 2020.4;
- Added russian translation.


From 2022.06.27 to 2022.07:

- Allow using any number of recognition languages;
- Complete code re-wrote, including:
- Split in various modules to make code clear;
- End using batch files;
- Allow recognize files on Desktop;
- Added translation to spanish, french, russian and ukranian.


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 07:12 de 13/07/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io escreveu:
What is the difference between the old and new ones?
Brian


Re: New version of TesseractOCR add-on

Ravindran V.S.
 

Hello,
Just a question about the below :
- Introduced the option to select a second language to be used in OCR of documents with multiple languages and a button to forget it;""

How can we select the second language? Where are these options please?
I have added the required second language(Tamil) in the list.
I am running Win 10 64 bit; NVDA 2022.1; TesseractOCR add-on v: 2022.07(downloaded from the direct link you shared.)

Thanks,
Ravi
V.S.Ravindran.
Excuses leads to failure!””

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 4:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New version of TesseractOCR add-on

Hello!


From 2022.06 to 2022.06.27:

- Updated Tesseract from version 5.0 Alpha (64-bit) to 5.1 (32-bit);
- Added several more recognition languages;
- Introduced the option to select a second language to be used in OCR of documents with multiple languages and a button to forget it;
- Introduced a new document type, "With auto-orientation", that allows the OCR engine to rotate the image as necessary;
- Introduced beeps to signal the add-on is working;
- Corrected code to avoid the non population of the download languages combobox;
- Corrected a problem with controlTypes roles preventing compatibility with NVDA 2020.4;
- Added russian translation.


From 2022.06.27 to 2022.07:

- Allow using any number of recognition languages;
- Complete code re-wrote, including:
- Split in various modules to make code clear;
- End using batch files;
- Allow recognize files on Desktop;
- Added translation to spanish, french, russian and ukranian.


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 07:12 de 13/07/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io escreveu:
What is the difference between the old and new ones?
Brian


Re: Error installing NVDA 2022.2rc1

Sean Budd (NV Access)
 

Please do open a GitHub issue.

Even if this is a one-off issue, it would be good to track and fix if it, especially if it becomes more common.


When updating nvda, do I always need to deactivate / activate the eloquence nvda add on again?

Daniel McGee
 

As the example the recent RC version of nvda 2022.2

Or any nvda releases for that matter. Except for add on breaking releases obviously.

I wish I knew a Definitive answer for this particular add on. As I use it exclusively for my hearing impairment.

While I understand the situation where it's obvious to deactivate. Formatting the drive, upgrading internals. Etc.

Is it Absolutely, necessary, every time, when there's an nvda update or even a: feature update to windows 10 or 11.

For those who use the add on, would love to know your thoughts.

With kind regards

Daniel


Re: Screen Refresh

tim
 

I didn't either, but that didn't stop me from doing it.

Like I stated it depends on the web page code if they allow it or not.


On 7/13/2022 11:18 AM, Gene wrote:

I was talking about a web page opening, as in downloading a web page.  You are evidently talking about downloading a file.  I haven't seen any information about whether Edge can resume downloads.

Gene

On 7/13/2022 8:48 AM, tim wrote:

Now with edge I have restarted some downloads.

You have to use control + j and arrow down to the download.

Now hit application or shift + f10 and arrow down to resume if it shows. That depends on the sites coding.


On 7/12/2022 11:15 AM, Gene wrote:
If you lose connection with the Internet, no page that has finished downloading to the browser is lost.  When you open a web page, it is downloaded to the browser and it stays there, whether you are online or not, until you close the tab or window containing the page in the browser itself.

If you are downloading something and you lose contact with the Internet briefly or very briefly, I'm not sure if the download stops or resumes, though I think it stops.

This has nothing to do with the speed of the Internet, it depends on what happens when contact with a site or the Internet is interrupted.

Gene

On 7/12/2022 10:06 AM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:

Hi Joseph:  Don

't forget about the speed of the web here.  What's going to happen with all these actions, if the internet skips a beat, and goes out for a part of a second but not long enough for the computer to loose all the pages that are open with a multipage document open as well as other documents. 

Dave


On 7/10/2022 11:41 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hi,

Here's why:

Suppose a screen reader went great lengths to obtain content for whatever page you are browsing. Now suppose that, somehow, the screen reader forgets what it was looking at when you switch screens (windows/apps). If the screen reader switches back to the web browser you were using, it doesn't remember what the page "looked" like, so it goes great lengths again to obtain document content.

Now suppose that you are browsing multiple websites, perhaps using tabs to do so. Because the screen reader does not remember content you were looking at whenever screens (or tabs) are changed, the screen reader must figure out where it is, whatever it is looking at, and ask the web browser for browse mode content. Suppose this happens so quickly that you notice the screen reader is slow to respond, and a bug is filed about it.

The task performed by a screen reader to obtain browse mode content is, as a Mozilla engineer put it, "swallowing the document". That is, in order for NVDA to obtain information from a web document and convert it into a suitable representation, it needs to ask the web browser for raw document content. This takes time depending on how responsive the web browser is to requests from other apps (including NVDA) and the length of the document. It goes something like this:

  1. User (to web browser): I want to browse to a particular website.
  2. Browser (to user, after a pause): okay, here is the document you have requested.
  3. NVDA (to web browser): but wait, the user is blind, so I need a way to present the document in a suitable way.
  4. Web browser (to NVDA): what do you want me to do for you?
  5. NVDA (to web browser): I'm going to send a messenger (no joke), and you are supposed to send the raw document (complete with HTML and other code) to them.
  6. Web browser (depending on the browser the user is using): okay, I will wait for you (old browser)/hey, I gave you all the tools you need (accessibility API's for instance), so why are you asking me to give you raw content (new browser)?
  7. NVDA messenger (to web browser): here I am, give me the raw document content please.
  8. Web browser (to NVDA messenger, after gathering the raw document content in a suitable form): here it is.
  9. NVDA messenger (to NVDA): okay, I did what you've asked.
  10. NVDA (to NVDA messenger): well done, I will tell my user about it.
  11. NVDA (to user): Loading document...
  12. NVDA (to user, after the document is formatted): here it is (then starts reading from the top if the user says so).
  13. NVDA (to self): phew, that was a long trip. I don't want to go through this again. Wait, I have a notebook which I can use to jot down document content.

The bottlenecks are the messenger and subsequent document formatting steps.

Technical: the "messenger" in this interaction is a piece of NVDA called Remote Helper, a DLL called upon to inject itself into other processes (programs) for various tasks. An important task this DLL does is ask web browsers for raw document content, which is then passed onto NVDA so it can convert it into a browse mode representation. Newer web browsers are concerned about code injection, so they do their best to provide the web document in a documented way, and one such effort is IAccessible2. In theory, using an API to access web document should eliminate the need for document refreshing (NVDA+F5 in browse mode) whenever content changes, which is different than screen refreshing in JAWS (JAWS key+Escape).

Hope this answers a lot of questions.

Cheers,

Joseph




Re: Reading WEB Pages

tim
 

Not sure why but I also had that problem on 2 different computers and for that last 3 years of NVDA updates.

I fixed it by going into NVDA preferences, settings, advanced.

Then tab and hit space bar. Now you can tab to use UIA with edge and other chrome based browsers. you want to set that to no. Now every thing will show in the browser.


On 7/13/2022 2:30 PM, Steven Hicks wrote:

Hi all,

 

new install of Microsoft Windows 10 and NvDA.

When I open a web page, I cannot move around to read it with the arrow keys, it only responds to the tab key, any ideas why please?

 

Many thanks in anticipation,

 


Re: New version of TesseractOCR add-on

mk360
 

Hi,

About the version, is 2022.7, but it happened when I installed the version that uses Sesseract 5.1 because I run it in a 32 b system.

Note that the english language worked when I installed that version, but spanish doesn't.

El 13/07/2022 a las 21:14, Rui Fontes escribió:
Hello!


Wich version of tesseractOCR?

Your system is 32 or 64-bit?


Cumprimentos,

Rui Fontes
Equipa portuguesa do NVDA



Às 00:49 de 14/07/2022, mk360 escreveu:
Hi,

Two problems here:

If I set spanish as my preffered language I gives an error and never display ocr.txt, this is the log using control windows r:

ERROR - stderr (19:42:00.880) - Thread-22 (5292):
Exception in thread Thread-22:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "threading.pyc", line 926, in _bootstrap_inner
  File "threading.pyc", line 870, in run
  File "C:\Users\usuario\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\tesseractOCR\globalPlugins\tesseractOCR\__init__.py", line 176, in _doRoutines
    self.convertPDFToPNG()
  File "C:\Users\usuario\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\tesseractOCR\globalPlugins\tesseractOCR\__init__.py", line 113, in convertPDFToPNG
    self.backgroundProcessing(command)
  File "C:\Users\usuario\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\tesseractOCR\globalPlugins\tesseractOCR\__init__.py", line 103, in backgroundProcessing
    p = subprocess.Popen(self.command, stdin=subprocess.PIPE, stdout=subprocess.PIPE, stderr=subprocess.PIPE, startupinfo=si)
  File "subprocess.pyc", line 800, in __init__
  File "subprocess.pyc", line 1207, in _execute_child
OSError: [WinError 216] Esta versión de %1 no es compatible con la versión de Windows que está ejecutando. Compruebe la información de sistema del equipo para consultar si necesita una versión x86 (32 bits) o x64 (64 bits) del programa, y después póngase en contacto con el editor del software


Also, sometimes when I start NVDA it never speak and I need to restart it, here is the log when it start finally with voice feedback:

NVDA initialized
ERROR - unhandled exception (19:46:35.521) - MainThread (2396):
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "wx\core.pyc", line 3407, in <lambda>
  File "C:\Users\usuario\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\tesseractOCR\globalPlugins\tesseractOCR\update.py", line 80, in upgradeVerify
    r = urllib.request.urlopen(p).read()
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 222, in urlopen
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 525, in open
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 543, in _open
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 503, in _call_chain
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 1393, in https_open
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 1350, in do_open
  File "http\client.pyc", line 1277, in request
  File "http\client.pyc", line 1323, in _send_request
  File "http\client.pyc", line 1272, in endheaders
  File "http\client.pyc", line 1032, in _send_output
  File "http\client.pyc", line 972, in send
  File "http\client.pyc", line 1439, in connect
  File "http\client.pyc", line 944, in connect
  File "socket.pyc", line 707, in create_connection
  File "socket.pyc", line 752, in getaddrinfo
LookupError: unknown encoding: idna

El 13/07/2022 a las 7:26, Rui Fontes escribió:
Hello!


From 2022.06 to 2022.06.27:

- Updated Tesseract from version 5.0 Alpha (64-bit) to 5.1 (32-bit);
- Added several more recognition languages;
- Introduced the option to select a second language to be used in OCR of documents with multiple languages and a button to forget it;
- Introduced a new document type, "With auto-orientation", that allows the OCR engine to rotate the image as necessary;
- Introduced beeps to signal the add-on is working;
- Corrected code to avoid the non population of the download languages combobox;
- Corrected a problem with controlTypes roles preventing compatibility with NVDA 2020.4;
- Added russian translation.


From 2022.06.27 to 2022.07:

- Allow using any number of recognition languages;
- Complete code re-wrote, including:
    - Split in various modules to make code clear;
    - End using batch files;
    - Allow recognize files on Desktop;
- Added translation to spanish, french, russian and ukranian.


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 07:12 de 13/07/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io escreveu:
What is the difference between the old and new ones?
Brian









Re: New version of TesseractOCR add-on

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


Wich version of tesseractOCR?

Your system is 32 or 64-bit?


Cumprimentos,

Rui Fontes
Equipa portuguesa do NVDA



Às 00:49 de 14/07/2022, mk360 escreveu:

Hi,

Two problems here:

If I set spanish as my preffered language I gives an error and never display ocr.txt, this is the log using control windows r:

ERROR - stderr (19:42:00.880) - Thread-22 (5292):
Exception in thread Thread-22:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "threading.pyc", line 926, in _bootstrap_inner
  File "threading.pyc", line 870, in run
  File "C:\Users\usuario\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\tesseractOCR\globalPlugins\tesseractOCR\__init__.py", line 176, in _doRoutines
    self.convertPDFToPNG()
  File "C:\Users\usuario\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\tesseractOCR\globalPlugins\tesseractOCR\__init__.py", line 113, in convertPDFToPNG
    self.backgroundProcessing(command)
  File "C:\Users\usuario\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\tesseractOCR\globalPlugins\tesseractOCR\__init__.py", line 103, in backgroundProcessing
    p = subprocess.Popen(self.command, stdin=subprocess.PIPE, stdout=subprocess.PIPE, stderr=subprocess.PIPE, startupinfo=si)
  File "subprocess.pyc", line 800, in __init__
  File "subprocess.pyc", line 1207, in _execute_child
OSError: [WinError 216] Esta versión de %1 no es compatible con la versión de Windows que está ejecutando. Compruebe la información de sistema del equipo para consultar si necesita una versión x86 (32 bits) o x64 (64 bits) del programa, y después póngase en contacto con el editor del software


Also, sometimes when I start NVDA it never speak and I need to restart it, here is the log when it start finally with voice feedback:

NVDA initialized
ERROR - unhandled exception (19:46:35.521) - MainThread (2396):
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "wx\core.pyc", line 3407, in <lambda>
  File "C:\Users\usuario\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\tesseractOCR\globalPlugins\tesseractOCR\update.py", line 80, in upgradeVerify
    r = urllib.request.urlopen(p).read()
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 222, in urlopen
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 525, in open
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 543, in _open
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 503, in _call_chain
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 1393, in https_open
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 1350, in do_open
  File "http\client.pyc", line 1277, in request
  File "http\client.pyc", line 1323, in _send_request
  File "http\client.pyc", line 1272, in endheaders
  File "http\client.pyc", line 1032, in _send_output
  File "http\client.pyc", line 972, in send
  File "http\client.pyc", line 1439, in connect
  File "http\client.pyc", line 944, in connect
  File "socket.pyc", line 707, in create_connection
  File "socket.pyc", line 752, in getaddrinfo
LookupError: unknown encoding: idna

El 13/07/2022 a las 7:26, Rui Fontes escribió:
Hello!


From 2022.06 to 2022.06.27:

- Updated Tesseract from version 5.0 Alpha (64-bit) to 5.1 (32-bit);
- Added several more recognition languages;
- Introduced the option to select a second language to be used in OCR of documents with multiple languages and a button to forget it;
- Introduced a new document type, "With auto-orientation", that allows the OCR engine to rotate the image as necessary;
- Introduced beeps to signal the add-on is working;
- Corrected code to avoid the non population of the download languages combobox;
- Corrected a problem with controlTypes roles preventing compatibility with NVDA 2020.4;
- Added russian translation.


From 2022.06.27 to 2022.07:

- Allow using any number of recognition languages;
- Complete code re-wrote, including:
    - Split in various modules to make code clear;
    - End using batch files;
    - Allow recognize files on Desktop;
- Added translation to spanish, french, russian and ukranian.


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 07:12 de 13/07/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io escreveu:
What is the difference between the old and new ones?
Brian






Re: NVDA 2022.2 RC 1 now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Thanks Rosemarie!


On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 3:33 AM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, Quentin,

 

I just downloaded this new release candidate and so-far it’s working great. Thanks so much for all that you and the other NVDA developers do for us.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 1:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2022.2 RC 1 now available

 

Hi everyone,

 

NVDA 2022.2 RC1 is now available!  As a release candidate build, this is the final step before the stable build.  We encourage ALL users to please download and test this.  If any issues are identified, it is easier to address them now before the stable version comes out.

NVDA 2022.2 includes many bug fixes. Notably, there are significant improvements for Java based applications, braille displays and Windows features.

New table navigation commands have been introduced. Unicode CLDR has been updated. LibLouis has been updated, which includes a new German braille table.

 

Read more and download the RC from https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2022-2rc1/

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

 



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Error installing NVDA 2022.2rc1

Quentin Christensen
 

Roberto,

Just a quick note to let you know I saw your issue - did NVDA start normally once you restarted / logged out?

As Joseph suggested, it looks like one of those random glitches which sortes itself out when you log out, but if anyone else has a similar issue, or if you have any other problems after restarting, do please let me know.

Quentin.

On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 12:50 AM Roberto Perez <rober555x@...> wrote:

Hi community. I just updated my installed copy of NVDA 2022.1 with the release candidate of 20222.2. The installation went well, except for the fact that the portable copy that runs while NVDA is installing could not be terminated, therefore the newly installed copy could not start automatically. I got the following error message: “Error  dialog  usage: nvda.exe [-h] [-q] [-k] [-f LOGFILENAME]

                [-l {10,12,15,20,30,40,50,100}] [-c CONFIGPATH]

                [--lang LANGUAGE] [-m] [-s] [--disable-addons]

                [--debug-logging] [--no-logging] [--no-sr-flag]

                [--install | --install-silent | --create-portable | --create-portable-silent]

                [--portable-path PORTABLEPATH] [--launcher]

                [--enable-start-on-logon True|False] [--copy-portable-config]

                [--ease-of-access]

 

error: Couldn't terminate existing NVDA process, abandoning start:

Exception: [WinError 5] Access is denied.”.

Windows specifications: “Edition             Windows 11 Pro

Version 21H2

OS build             22000.739

Experience         Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22000.739.0”

Should I open a GitHub issue?

 

Thanks.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of tim
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Refresh

 

Now with edge I have restarted some downloads.

You have to use control + j and arrow down to the download.

Now hit application or shift + f10 and arrow down to resume if it shows. That depends on the sites coding.

 

On 7/12/2022 11:15 AM, Gene wrote:

If you lose connection with the Internet, no page that has finished downloading to the browser is lost.  When you open a web page, it is downloaded to the browser and it stays there, whether you are online or not, until you close the tab or window containing the page in the browser itself.

If you are downloading something and you lose contact with the Internet briefly or very briefly, I'm not sure if the download stops or resumes, though I think it stops.

This has nothing to do with the speed of the Internet, it depends on what happens when contact with a site or the Internet is interrupted.

Gene

On 7/12/2022 10:06 AM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:

Hi Joseph:  Don

't forget about the speed of the web here.  What's going to happen with all these actions, if the internet skips a beat, and goes out for a part of a second but not long enough for the computer to loose all the pages that are open with a multipage document open as well as other documents. 

Dave

 

On 7/10/2022 11:41 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hi,

Here's why:

Suppose a screen reader went great lengths to obtain content for whatever page you are browsing. Now suppose that, somehow, the screen reader forgets what it was looking at when you switch screens (windows/apps). If the screen reader switches back to the web browser you were using, it doesn't remember what the page "looked" like, so it goes great lengths again to obtain document content.

Now suppose that you are browsing multiple websites, perhaps using tabs to do so. Because the screen reader does not remember content you were looking at whenever screens (or tabs) are changed, the screen reader must figure out where it is, whatever it is looking at, and ask the web browser for browse mode content. Suppose this happens so quickly that you notice the screen reader is slow to respond, and a bug is filed about it.

The task performed by a screen reader to obtain browse mode content is, as a Mozilla engineer put it, "swallowing the document". That is, in order for NVDA to obtain information from a web document and convert it into a suitable representation, it needs to ask the web browser for raw document content. This takes time depending on how responsive the web browser is to requests from other apps (including NVDA) and the length of the document. It goes something like this:

  1. User (to web browser): I want to browse to a particular website.
  2. Browser (to user, after a pause): okay, here is the document you have requested.
  3. NVDA (to web browser): but wait, the user is blind, so I need a way to present the document in a suitable way.
  4. Web browser (to NVDA): what do you want me to do for you?
  5. NVDA (to web browser): I'm going to send a messenger (no joke), and you are supposed to send the raw document (complete with HTML and other code) to them.
  6. Web browser (depending on the browser the user is using): okay, I will wait for you (old browser)/hey, I gave you all the tools you need (accessibility API's for instance), so why are you asking me to give you raw content (new browser)?
  7. NVDA messenger (to web browser): here I am, give me the raw document content please.
  8. Web browser (to NVDA messenger, after gathering the raw document content in a suitable form): here it is.
  9. NVDA messenger (to NVDA): okay, I did what you've asked.
  10. NVDA (to NVDA messenger): well done, I will tell my user about it.
  11. NVDA (to user): Loading document...
  12. NVDA (to user, after the document is formatted): here it is (then starts reading from the top if the user says so).
  13. NVDA (to self): phew, that was a long trip. I don't want to go through this again. Wait, I have a notebook which I can use to jot down document content.

The bottlenecks are the messenger and subsequent document formatting steps.

Technical: the "messenger" in this interaction is a piece of NVDA called Remote Helper, a DLL called upon to inject itself into other processes (programs) for various tasks. An important task this DLL does is ask web browsers for raw document content, which is then passed onto NVDA so it can convert it into a browse mode representation. Newer web browsers are concerned about code injection, so they do their best to provide the web document in a documented way, and one such effort is IAccessible2. In theory, using an API to access web document should eliminate the need for document refreshing (NVDA+F5 in browse mode) whenever content changes, which is different than screen refreshing in JAWS (JAWS key+Escape).

Hope this answers a lot of questions.

Cheers,

Joseph

 



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: New version of TesseractOCR add-on

mk360
 

Hi,

Two problems here:

If I set spanish as my preffered language I gives an error and never display ocr.txt, this is the log using control windows r:

ERROR - stderr (19:42:00.880) - Thread-22 (5292):
Exception in thread Thread-22:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "threading.pyc", line 926, in _bootstrap_inner
  File "threading.pyc", line 870, in run
  File "C:\Users\usuario\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\tesseractOCR\globalPlugins\tesseractOCR\__init__.py", line 176, in _doRoutines
    self.convertPDFToPNG()
  File "C:\Users\usuario\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\tesseractOCR\globalPlugins\tesseractOCR\__init__.py", line 113, in convertPDFToPNG
    self.backgroundProcessing(command)
  File "C:\Users\usuario\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\tesseractOCR\globalPlugins\tesseractOCR\__init__.py", line 103, in backgroundProcessing
    p = subprocess.Popen(self.command, stdin=subprocess.PIPE, stdout=subprocess.PIPE, stderr=subprocess.PIPE, startupinfo=si)
  File "subprocess.pyc", line 800, in __init__
  File "subprocess.pyc", line 1207, in _execute_child
OSError: [WinError 216] Esta versión de %1 no es compatible con la versión de Windows que está ejecutando. Compruebe la información de sistema del equipo para consultar si necesita una versión x86 (32 bits) o x64 (64 bits) del programa, y después póngase en contacto con el editor del software


Also, sometimes when I start NVDA it never speak and I need to restart it, here is the log when it start finally with voice feedback:

NVDA initialized
ERROR - unhandled exception (19:46:35.521) - MainThread (2396):
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "wx\core.pyc", line 3407, in <lambda>
  File "C:\Users\usuario\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\tesseractOCR\globalPlugins\tesseractOCR\update.py", line 80, in upgradeVerify
    r = urllib.request.urlopen(p).read()
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 222, in urlopen
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 525, in open
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 543, in _open
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 503, in _call_chain
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 1393, in https_open
  File "urllib\request.pyc", line 1350, in do_open
  File "http\client.pyc", line 1277, in request
  File "http\client.pyc", line 1323, in _send_request
  File "http\client.pyc", line 1272, in endheaders
  File "http\client.pyc", line 1032, in _send_output
  File "http\client.pyc", line 972, in send
  File "http\client.pyc", line 1439, in connect
  File "http\client.pyc", line 944, in connect
  File "socket.pyc", line 707, in create_connection
  File "socket.pyc", line 752, in getaddrinfo
LookupError: unknown encoding: idna

El 13/07/2022 a las 7:26, Rui Fontes escribió:
Hello!


From 2022.06 to 2022.06.27:

- Updated Tesseract from version 5.0 Alpha (64-bit) to 5.1 (32-bit);
- Added several more recognition languages;
- Introduced the option to select a second language to be used in OCR of documents with multiple languages and a button to forget it;
- Introduced a new document type, "With auto-orientation", that allows the OCR engine to rotate the image as necessary;
- Introduced beeps to signal the add-on is working;
- Corrected code to avoid the non population of the download languages combobox;
- Corrected a problem with controlTypes roles preventing compatibility with NVDA 2020.4;
- Added russian translation.


From 2022.06.27 to 2022.07:

- Allow using any number of recognition languages;
- Complete code re-wrote, including:
    - Split in various modules to make code clear;
    - End using batch files;
    - Allow recognize files on Desktop;
- Added translation to spanish, french, russian and ukranian.


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 07:12 de 13/07/2022, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io escreveu:
What is the difference between the old and new ones?
Brian



Re: Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi guys

Please look under the recently updated heading on my website to see  what has been added.


Pages recently updated
Recently updated:
Added a link to the "Talking about Seeing" podcast series from Access Radio Taranaki to the Did you know? Members information page.

There is a interview with Lance and Gene that says how the website came to be etc and about 14 minutes and 50 seconds Gene says about NVDA going into the libraries in New Zealand etc.


Added a variety of help topics to the Troubleshooting NVDA screen reader problems page.
Added How to enable auto-generated image labels in Microsoft Edge to the NVDA tutorials for other programs page.
Added the object enhancer addon to the NVDA addons page, along with a dropbox link to a folder with addons for NVDA 2022.1

The SpeechHub add-on has been updated to work with NVDA 2022.1 You can download the SpeechHub package plus the updated add-on from http://www.speakon.org.uk

The link to the main page where you can find out what has been done is at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net


There might be other content updated not listed there as well as other stuff that could be of interest.


Gene nz


On 20/02/2021 9:35 am, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi guys



You can view what has been updated on my website from the following web page at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

They are found under a heading called recently updated  to Accessibilitycentral.net  which will have other material I have put up there. So to stay with the rules I have only put in tutorials for nvda.


Recently updated: Added Tab headers are now considered form fields tutorial to the NVDA tutorials page;
Added the audio described video called Changing Lives to the audio description page;
Added how to play an audio described show from the attitudelive.com website to the audio description page with nvda;
Added RH voices to the How to install additional NVDA components page;
Added a new page Added a new page called Managing your groups.io account with NVDA to the NVDA tutorials for other programs page;
Added a page called Using Disney + with NVDA on the NVDA tutorials for other programs page;
Added a page called Troubleshooting NVDA screen reader problems to the main page.


There might be other stuff on the website not nvda related you may want to browse as well.


Gene nz




On 16/09/2020 10:58 pm, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi everyone,

Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

Added:

Added a page called Testing your website or application with the NVDA screen reader to the main page;


Added updates SpeechHub and SpeakOn resources for NVDA page (off the NVDA tutorials for other programs page).


Recently updated:

How to get to Task Manager quickly, and NVDA remote troubleshooting (NVDA audio tutorials page);
Updates to Dropbox tutorial, tutorials on Microsoft Teams, as well as Zoom (NVDA tutorials for other programs page).

Gene NZ

On 20/12/2019 6:52 pm, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi every one


Recently updated: Added NVDA touch gestures and Screen curtain add on now in NVDA 2019.3;
Resetting gestures back to factory defaults; Focus highlighter addon now integrated into NVDA 2019.3 (on the NVDA tutorials page).


Gene nz


On 22/09/2019 9:24 pm, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi everyone,

Recently updated: NVDA have now released an official date for NVDAcon 2019. Our international NVDA conference will be held from November 15th to November 17th.

To find out more about the upcoming online conference NVDAcon 2019, please visit the following link  https://www.nvdacon.org/


New: Added a page called how to navigate Google Duo for web with NVDA (to the NVDA tutorials for other programs page).
Added a new page called get image descriptions from Google in Google browser (off the NVDA tutorials for other programs page).

http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html


Gene NZ


On 3/06/2019 11:12 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi everyone,


Recently updated: Added the Microsoft Edge chromium based browser to the browser list on the NVDA road tested programs page. Added the following sections to the NVDA tutorials page: NVDA now remembers the last 20 searches done; Filter by search box for locating punctuation/symbols with NVDA; Assign a shortcut key to hear what is spoken under the mouse pointer; and Disabling Browse mode in NVDA. Added a new section to the NVDA tutorials for Windows 10 page called Windows One Core voices can now be used with the rate boost feature in NVDA. Added a new section to the NVDA Addons page called Addon updater.


New: Added a page called Using the Microsoft Edge chromium powered browser with the NVDA screen reader to the NVDA tutorials for other programs page. Added a new page to the main AccessibilityCentral.net homepage called Blindness related resources.

Gene NZ


On 29/04/2019 9:45 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi,


Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net (Please visit the section called recently updated on the accessibilitycentral.net homepage to see what is new on the site).

Added the Microsoft Edge chromium based browser to the browser list on the NVDA road tested programs page;
Added a page called Using Kindle for PC with NVDA off the NVDA tutorials for other programs page;

Added a page called Using the ribbon interface in Windows via the keyboard (Courtesy of Brian Vogel) off the NVDA tutorials for other programs page;

Added where to locate the NVDA development snapshots page for people wanting to help test out the snapshots and/or check out new features to the NVDA screen reader related resources page;

NVDACon2019 - NVDA's annual conference online.

The question has been asked...Which weekend/s in August would suit most people for NVDACon2019?  

Please take two minutes and access the survey at https://doodle.com/poll/sd5ubgyrbhibm5bw

 To complete the survey, please don’t use Firefox because the survey is not completely accessible in that browser.

Select the weekend or weekends that suit you best!

 Hope to see you all at NVDACon2019!


On 17/03/2019 10:22 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi,

Recently updated: on the Accessibilitycentral website...Added the Brave browser to the NVDA road tested programs page http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html; Added essential lessons from NVDA development basics by Jospeh Lee to the NVDA screen reader related resources page http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/NVDA%20screen%20reader%20related%20resources; Added Image describer addon and a link to the website to the NVDA addons page http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/NVDA%20addons.html

Gene NZ

On 11/03/2019 6:04 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi guys,

The following information comes from the heading called Recently updated on my accessibilitycentral.net website... This information is for the NVDA related material.

Recently updated: Added a tutorial on how to add a Humanware BrailleNote to NVDA as well as a section called Add-on updater http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html.  Christchurch City Library announces the installation of the NVDA screen reader on 390 of their public terminals across their network of 19 libraries. To find out which software is available on the CCL network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/  Added a section called Changes to navigation of the Emoji panel in Windows 10 version 1809. How to add an emoji in Windows 10 with NVDA (on the NVDA tutorials for Windows 10 page) http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html


Also, added playing your music/movies to a Google device (off the how to use the VLC media player with the NVDA screen reader page).

Inputting with MuseScore; Using your Wordpress dashboard with NVDA; Added an audio tutorial for Skype for web, using the NVDA screen reader http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html;


Gene NZ




On 10/10/2018 9:13 AM, David Moore wrote:

Hi Gene!

Thanks for letting us know!

Have a great one!

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 2:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi guys

 

Just to let you know the web site has come back on line it seemed it was a very series crash on there end. it may go up and down while they repopulate all the web sites on that server.

 

Hopefully nothing like this happens again for a very long long  ..... time again.

 

It is dated the 23rd of September so is the last update that was drop boxed to the list.

 


Gene nz

On 2/10/2018 10:14 AM, David Moore wrote:

Hi Gene and all!

I just unzipped it with 7Zip!

It works very well.

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 4:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi

 

The website has been zipped you will need a program to unzip it. You can also do it with windows explorer but may be better to make a folder then put the files into it that is easy to find. Then it is a matter of just going to the index file with in the folder and pressing the enter key on it and use it like normal. As long as people have internet access they should be able to access audio files  etc.

 

There may be another tutorial been added on later this week so will update the link to the drop box account then.

 

I will let people know then.

 

The drop box link is https://www.dropbox.com/s/fh0ke305t6afduw/Accessibility%20Central%20Website.zip?dl=0

Gene nz

 

 

 

 

 

On 2/10/2018 9:11 AM, The Wolf wrote:

can you please dropbox me the files?

the website that is?

On 10/1/2018 1:07 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi guys

 

As you probably have noticed Accessibilitycentral.net has not be accessible and the following message comes up when you try to access one of the pages Website is temporarily down due to file system failure. Recovery is in progress, please check back later. Sorry for inconveniences

.

 

The people we host with were alerted when i first noticed it and it has to be fixed on there end. I do not know when it will be back up but hopefully it is ASAP.

 

I guess this is maybe what you get some times when you host with a free provider? with no adds and only have to pay for the domain name.

 

It sounds pretty serious like the server hard drive took a dive?

 

If any one wants to access the material on it at present I can zip it up and drop box it until it comes back on line.

This will only be the website files not the audio files as every one has access to the internet mostly.

 

You will then need to unzip it and put it into a folder with the files. Then it is a matter of just accessing the index file for the website.

 

I might again even look at other options for hosting.

 

Let us know and can drop box to the list.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 5/09/2018 8:11 AM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi guys

 

Pages recently updated
Recently updated: Added a tutorial called The basics of making a ticket for NVACCESS on the NVDA audio tutorials page

under trouble shooting.

Gene nz

 

 

On 9/08/2018 5:14 AM, Inam Uddin via Groups.Io wrote:

Actually there are 5 different menues in Skype Electron.

All the menues access with alt key.

Alt+e for edit menue.

Alt+f for file menue.

Alt+h for help menue.

Alt+t for tool menue.

And alt+v for view menue respectively.

For details, go to those menues and discover how much those menues are accessible.

I’m very sorry to let you know that most of us do not like to spend sometimes to explore new things and want to stick with old technology.

At the end all I can is “No gain without pain”!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...

Inamuddin.ronaque@...

outlook:
inam092@...

yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...

Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786

Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1

Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598 

+92-334-3348409

 

 

From: Hareth
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 3:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

The Skype support page lags these hotkeys for Skype 8:

ALT plus F.

for a menu contains some features or options

ALT plus E

For the edit menu.

ALT plus T

for the tools menu.

ALT plus H

For the help menu.

 

 

 

On 8/7/18, Inam Uddin via Groups.Io <charlsdarwin1969@...> wrote:

> This key command will work for  both the things!

> With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

> Charlsdarwin1

> You can contact me via gmail:

> inamuddin09@...

> Inamuddin.ronaque@...

> outlook:

> inam092@...

> yahoo:

> inamuddin2010@...

> Add my Skype ID:

> charlsdarwin1

> Meet me on facebook:

> www.facebook.com/inamuddin786

> Follow me on my twitter ID:

> www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1

> Call me on my cell numbers:

> +92-300-2227598

> +92-334-3348409

> From: Gene New Zealand

> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 7:40 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> Hi

> Is that not to make a call? I would have to go back and check when i checked

> the short cuts i did not see any to answer. so this one works to answer a

> call?

> I wonder if any of the old short cuts would work? at moment i just get it to

> automatically answer it is alot easier.

> Gene nz

> On 8/7/2018 12:01 PM, David Moore wrote:

> Hi Gene!

> Try CTRL+Shift+P

> It worked for me in Skype 8.25 as well as the Win10 app of Skype!!

> David Moore

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> From: Gene New Zealand

> Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 5:34 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> Hi

> I have not gone through all the short cuts for skype either I copied the

> list from them and tried a few of them but not all. it just might be a focus

> thing with nvda not speaking that shorcut when preformed?

> Gene nz

> On 8/7/2018 9:24 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

> Hi

> I just had a quick look under the skype 8 short cut keys hopefully i googled

> the right list for skype 8 for desk top it mentions short cut keys for other

> stuff in skype. the list can be found here at

> https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12025/what-are-hotkeys-and-how-do-i-use-them-in-skype

> At the moment so i do not have to be in the screen under the calling section

> i think it is under your profile you can check the boxes to have it

> automatically answer in coming calls and videos that is what i have done at

> present.

> I thought also some one on this list said there was another short cut that

> worked but until it can be confirmed in this version by some one else i then

> will add it. It when i had a quick look did not mention a short cut for

> answer in coming calls or video calls may be still to be added?

> I do not mind the automatically answer part saves rushing and trying to

> figure which part of the screen to be in. It would of made sense to have

> left the old short cut keys from skype 7 in it.

> Gene nz

> On 8/6/2018 11:30 PM, Dr. arvind singh brar wrote:

> hi,

> could you mention the shortcut key to answer a skype c

> This message is transmitted on 100% recycled electrons.

> Homepage;

> http://tip.simpl.com/

> On 6 Aug 2018, at 16.02, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>

> wrote:

> Hi,

> RE: Recently added on accessibilitycentral.net

> Recently added a tutorial (both written and audio) for Skype 8 desktop for

> Windows, using the NVDA screen reader.

> A link to the page can be found below:

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

> Regards,

> Gene NZ

> On 7/11/2018 11:19 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

> Hi,

> RE: Recently added on accessibilitycentral.net

> The following tutorials have been added to the NVDA audio tutorials page:

> How to completely uninstall NVDA from your computer

> Addon troubleshooting

> A link to the page can be found below:

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

> Regards,

> Gene NZ

> On 5/31/2018 9:27 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

> Hi,

> RE: Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> I have added the following to all NVDA related pages - For a variety of NVDA

> related resources from around the world,

> please visit the NVDA screen reader related resources page at the following

> link NVDA screen reader related resources

> Regards,

> Gene NZ

> On 5/6/2018 12:43 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

> Dear Gene,

> this is grat idea. It will be helpful for many people. Now I hope google

> translate will improve more in the near future.

> Best

> Adriani

> Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New

> Zealand

> Gesendet: Samstag, 28. April 2018 07:56

> An: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> Hi Adriani

> I have just added a link to the google translate page for other languages on

> the main web page.

> You can jump down by letter H to its heading then go down to the link then

> press the enter key where it will take you to another page.

> For some reason i could not put in a plug in to do it and it wanted it on

> every page so have gone down this other route. There is a heading that says

> some thing like translate this website to another language and a link to the

> translate page. The default language is english and the website main page is

> already in the edit section to translate. it is then a matter of changing it

> to another language then having it translate to it. Just after the language

> combo box you want it to go to is where you can read it in another language.

> it also seems if you click on one of the links the next page is also

> translated but only on that page i have it pointing to off my website.

> You will see what i mean when it is translated.

> it may help? for people where english is not there first language like

> mine.

> Not sure if the steps on what to do is enough or should i add a little more

> or hopefully it is clear enough on what to do.

> Gene nz

> On 4/13/2018 5:41 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

> Dear Gene,

> thank you for your great job. This is very important for the whole

> community. I have forwarded your links to the german community and in the

> translations group.

> I hope I will find some time during next week to provide you some

> suggestions.

> I propose to split the related sources in “development sources” and “user

> specific sources”. In this way we could add links to github and bitbucket as

> well.

> Best

> Adriani

> Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New

> Zealand

> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. April 2018 10:10

> An: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> Hi Adriani

> There is a under construction page that went up tonight for nvda screen

> reader related resources off the main website at

> http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

> When more resources get added there may be links off the nvda related web

> pages on my website that point to that page.

> I have a rough idea of categories for the resources.

> These can be changed  or added to.

> Gene nz

> On 3/25/2018 5:02 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

> Hi Adriani

> Yep I am looking at doing a page for nvda screen reader related resources

> which i will add it into which will be a separate web page. In that page I

> will break it down into say audio resources, video resources maybe nvda

> blogs? about using nvda? Not quite sure of other sections if i do and would

> be more a point to page but not jeffs one.

> Even though he had a good site.

> I am guessing we do  have links to other nvda resources like on you tube etc

> but not in the one place.

> Gene nz

> On 3/5/2018 9:22 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

> Gene,

> thanks for including that. I wonder if Joseph’s new tutorials set “welcome

> to NVDA 2018” can be included as well?

> Best

> Adriani

> Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New

> Zealand

> Gesendet: Montag, 5. März 2018 03:21

> An: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> Hi Adriani

> I was not sure if it worked on XP as when the directions went up i think at

> that time it had been tested on 7,8 and 10.

> Would the directions from 10 also work on XP? to get into it as i used to do

> it the other way that was posted.

> I have not any XP machines here now to test with.

> The directions you gave are on the nvda audio tutorials page under trouble

> shooting.

> Gene nz

> On 3/4/2018 11:45 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

> Hello,

> we had this conversation some months ago, here is a gegistry file which

> activates your sound driver in safe mode. It has been tested with XP as well

> and it works perfectly. NVDA can be used in safe mode after activating this

> file:

> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebkqst6n393i6jk/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=1

> Best

> Adriani

> Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New

> Zealand

> Gesendet: Samstag, 3. März 2018 19:47

> An: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> Hi

> the old way to get into safe mode in windows 10 can be found here at

> https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-boot-to-safe-mode-with-command-prompt-2624541

> You will need a pair of eyes to do this plus you might not even have sound.

> So am guessing you will need to burrow some eyes and give them directions to

> fix the problem.

> Gene nz

> On 3/4/2018 2:58 AM, zahra wrote:

> hi gene thanks so much for your great work of you and other members.

> how can i access safe mode in windows xp with nvda?

> does it have solution for users of xp?

> thanks so much every one and God bless you all!

> On 3/3/18, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

> HI guys

> Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> RECENTLY UPDATED:

> Added a link to all NVDA related pages for the new NVDA promotional video.

> Added a link to the addons page for the NVDA Add-on developers guide which

> has been updated for 2018.1

> Added a review of the Samsung UA50MU6100SXNZ television to the podcasts and

> product reviews page

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/podcasts%20and%20product%20reviews.html

> NEW:

> Added a page called Skype Trusted Microsoft Store App (off the NVDA

> tutorials for other programs page)

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

> as well as a page called Using Windows Media Player with NVDA.

> Gene NZ

> On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, David Moore wrote:

> Hi Gene NZ!

> Thanks so much for what you do for us!

> God bless!

> David Moore

> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows

> 10

> From: Gene New Zealand<mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...>

> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:01 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Subject: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> Hi guys

> Pages recently updated

> Recently updated: Added links to NVDA Guides on all NVDA related pages

> New: Added a tutorial How to access safe mode in Windows and exit it with

> the NVDA screen reader by Hareth  and co to the NVDA audio tutorials page

> under the troubleshooting section

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html Added a

> tutorial (by Gene Asner) called Navigating ribbons in WordPad (to the NVDA

> tutorials learning the basics page)

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20learning%20the%20basics.html

> Added a tutorial called Using the Ribbon interface in Windows via the

> keyboard (by Brian Vogel) to the NVDA tutorials for Windows 10 page.

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html

> Gene NZ

> --

> [Image                NVDA certified expert]

> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related

> material

> at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New

> Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the

> NVDA

> screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or

> location) is near to you please visit

> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa

> People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you,

> please

> visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The

> certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals

> from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert

> exam.

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> [Image NVDA          certified expert]

> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related

> material

> at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New

> Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the

> NVDA

> screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or

> location) is near to you please visit

> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa

> People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you,

> please

> visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The

> certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals

> from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert

> exam.

> --

> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material

> at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New

> Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA

> screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or

> location) is near to you please visit

> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa

> People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please

> visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The

> certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals

> from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert

> exam.

> --

> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material

> at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New

> Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA

> screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or

> location) is near to you please visit

> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa

> People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please

> visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The

> certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals

> from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert

> exam.

> --

> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material

> at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New

> Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA

> screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or

> location) is near to you please visit

> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa

> People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please

> visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The

> certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals

> from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert

> exam.

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Reading WEB Pages

Steven Hicks
 

Thanks so much everyone, I will give that a try, not on the machine at the moment.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ben J. Bloomgren via groups.io
Sent: 13 July 2022 19:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading WEB Pages

 

Also make sure that you're in browse mode with NVDA+Spacebar.

 

Ben



On Jul 13, 2022, at 11:40, Carlos <gmjc341961@...> wrote:

 Which browser are you using? Most browsers in their settings will have a check box to toggle using arrow key nav.
Always remember to include name(s) of browsers when asking these types of questions.

On 7/13/2022 11:30 AM, Steven Hicks wrote:

Hi all,

 

new install of Microsoft Windows 10 and NvDA.

When I open a web page, I cannot move around to read it with the arrow keys, it only responds to the tab key, any ideas why please?

 

Many thanks in anticipation,

 

 


Re: Reading WEB Pages

Gene
 

That is not intended for screen-reader users.  It is a way to allow sighted users to have a virtual cursor on the web page.

Gene

On 7/13/2022 1:40 PM, Carlos wrote:

Which browser are you using? Most browsers in their settings will have a check box to toggle using arrow key nav.
Always remember to include name(s) of browsers when asking these types of questions.

On 7/13/2022 11:30 AM, Steven Hicks wrote:

Hi all,

 

new install of Microsoft Windows 10 and NvDA.

When I open a web page, I cannot move around to read it with the arrow keys, it only responds to the tab key, any ideas why please?

 

Many thanks in anticipation,

 




Re: Reading WEB Pages

Ben J. Bloomgren
 

Also make sure that you're in browse mode with NVDA+Spacebar.

Ben

On Jul 13, 2022, at 11:40, Carlos <gmjc341961@...> wrote:

 Which browser are you using? Most browsers in their settings will have a check box to toggle using arrow key nav.
Always remember to include name(s) of browsers when asking these types of questions.

On 7/13/2022 11:30 AM, Steven Hicks wrote:

Hi all,

 

new install of Microsoft Windows 10 and NvDA.

When I open a web page, I cannot move around to read it with the arrow keys, it only responds to the tab key, any ideas why please?

 

Many thanks in anticipation,

 



Re: Reading WEB Pages

Carlos
 

Which browser are you using? Most browsers in their settings will have a check box to toggle using arrow key nav.
Always remember to include name(s) of browsers when asking these types of questions.

On 7/13/2022 11:30 AM, Steven Hicks wrote:

Hi all,

 

new install of Microsoft Windows 10 and NvDA.

When I open a web page, I cannot move around to read it with the arrow keys, it only responds to the tab key, any ideas why please?

 

Many thanks in anticipation,

 


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