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Re: NVDA and Fractions

John Sanfilippo
 

Hi,

I have no solution, but do also experience this and similar odd "super
interpretations" which are annoying.

I'm not sure if the problem is with NVDA or with the chosen speech
synth. For instance, I'm using Microsoft's SAPI5, David.

O, and when my Mac boots in win10 the logon voice is e-speak. It says
"one ratio 48" instead of "thirteen 48" or "one 48 PM".

John S

On 10/17/16 13:30, Brian Vogel wrote:
Hello All,

On the JFW group a thread has started entitled, How to insert a
1-digit fraction into a 2013 word document
<https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/topic/how_to_insert_a_1_digit/2911704?p=,,,100,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,100,2,0,2911704>

I started playing with NVDA and Window-Eyes to see how they'd
handle three-character fraction designations versus single vulgar
fraction characters for vulgar fractions other than one fourth, one
half, and three quarters. With NVDA I've run into an interesting issue
that I cannot seem to fix in the context of writing something incredibly
common: a recipe. Virtually any recipe you name might contain a
fraction of a cup of something. When I use one slash three for one
third, or two slash three for two thirds, the word cup that follows it
is consistently announced as Cuban Pesos, not cup. This is not true
when I use a vulgar fraction character ahead of the word cup, and NVDA
does what I consider the more natural thing and doesn't announce
"vulgar" or "vulgar fraction" followed by one third or two thirds, but
just says the fractional amount and the word cup gets said as cup.

I have tried tweaking the default and voice dictionaries, but
must be doing something wrong. The pattern I'm using is the word cup,
and the replacement is the word cup, and I make sure that it's set for
whole word only. Even after doing this I still get "Cuban pesos" after
the three-character version of a vulgar fraction. I have exited NVDA
and restarted it and it makes no difference.

I either don't have the format down correctly for what I need
to put in for the dictionary, have the wrong dictionary, or there's some
sort of bug here as I can't imagine "Cuban pesos" to be something you'd
want said for "cup" except in the very rarest of circumstances.

Can anyone help me out here?
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NVDA and Fractions

Brian Vogel
 

Hello All,

         On the JFW group a thread has started entitled, How to insert a 1-digit fraction into a 2013 word document

          I started playing with NVDA and Window-Eyes to see how they'd handle three-character fraction designations versus single vulgar fraction characters for vulgar fractions other than one fourth, one half, and three quarters.  With NVDA I've run into an interesting issue that I cannot seem to fix in the context of writing something incredibly common:  a recipe.   Virtually any recipe you name might contain a fraction of a cup of something.  When I use one slash three for one third, or two slash three for two thirds, the word cup that follows it is consistently announced as Cuban Pesos, not cup.  This is not true when I use a vulgar fraction character ahead of the word cup, and NVDA does what I consider the more natural thing and doesn't announce "vulgar" or "vulgar fraction" followed by one third or two thirds, but just says the fractional amount and the word cup gets said as cup.

          I have tried tweaking the default and voice dictionaries, but must be doing something wrong.  The pattern I'm using is the word cup, and the replacement is the word cup, and I make sure that it's set for whole word only.  Even after doing this I still get "Cuban pesos" after the three-character version of a vulgar fraction.  I have exited NVDA and restarted it and it makes no difference.

          I either don't have the format down correctly for what I need to put in for the dictionary, have the wrong dictionary, or there's some sort of bug here as I can't imagine "Cuban pesos" to be something you'd want said for "cup" except in the very rarest of circumstances.

          Can anyone help me out here?
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Re: orbit20 prototype recording

Antony Stone
 

Ogg Vorbis is a lossy compression format for audio, rather like mp3 but
without the doubtful licensing status.

The majority of media players can handle it quite happily.


Antony.

On Monday 17 October 2016 at 17:27:16, Kevin Huber wrote:

HI Josh:

What is a .ogg file and what software do you need to run it?

On 10/14/16, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:
hello

here is a recording i made of the orbit20 prototype device. let me know
what you all think by emailing joshknnd1982@...

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5454959/2016_10_14-18_00_58.ogg
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Re: orbit20 prototype recording

Kevin Huber
 

HI Josh:

What is a .ogg file and what software do you need to run it?

On 10/14/16, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:
hello

here is a recording i made of the orbit20 prototype device. let me know
what you all think by emailing joshknnd1982@...


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5454959/2016_10_14-18_00_58.ogg




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Re: i've a problem with webvisum

P. Otter
 


ok man, i've done what you wrote.
and yes, succes!
thanks for your help.
cheers
paul otter
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] i've a problem with webvisum

Hello Paul,

If you're using version 0.9.5 of WebVisum from the Mozilla Firefox add-ons page, the problem is with it. I was using the same version and had the same problem. I solved it by removing it and reverting to the signed 0.9.2 version from James Scholes. You can download it from here:
http://jscholes.net/webvisum-0.9.2-fx.xpi
Hope it helps.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


На 17.10.2016 г. в 16:12, P. Otter написа:
hello all, i've a problem with webvisum.
the username is correct, and also the password but webvisum add-on comes with the message server connection error.
is this only in my situation or are there more who has problems with webvisum?
if so, i have to wait until there is a solution, if not, i have to try to solve the problem on my computer.
cheers
paul otter
 
Re: i've a problem with webvisum

P. Otter
 


thanks man, i'll try it!
cheers
paul otter
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] i've a problem with webvisum

Hello Paul,

If you're using version 0.9.5 of WebVisum from the Mozilla Firefox add-ons page, the problem is with it. I was using the same version and had the same problem. I solved it by removing it and reverting to the signed 0.9.2 version from James Scholes. You can download it from here:
http://jscholes.net/webvisum-0.9.2-fx.xpi
Hope it helps.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


На 17.10.2016 г. в 16:12, P. Otter написа:
hello all, i've a problem with webvisum.
the username is correct, and also the password but webvisum add-on comes with the message server connection error.
is this only in my situation or are there more who has problems with webvisum?
if so, i have to wait until there is a solution, if not, i have to try to solve the problem on my computer.
cheers
paul otter
 
Re: i've a problem with webvisum

Kostadin Kolev
 

Hello Paul,

If you're using version 0.9.5 of WebVisum from the Mozilla Firefox add-ons page, the problem is with it. I was using the same version and had the same problem. I solved it by removing it and reverting to the signed 0.9.2 version from James Scholes. You can download it from here:
http://jscholes.net/webvisum-0.9.2-fx.xpi
Hope it helps.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


На 17.10.2016 г. в 16:12, P. Otter написа:

hello all, i've a problem with webvisum.
the username is correct, and also the password but webvisum add-on comes with the message server connection error.
is this only in my situation or are there more who has problems with webvisum?
if so, i have to wait until there is a solution, if not, i have to try to solve the problem on my computer.
cheers
paul otter
 
i've a problem with webvisum

P. Otter
 

hello all, i've a problem with webvisum.
the username is correct, and also the password but webvisum add-on comes with the message server connection error.
is this only in my situation or are there more who has problems with webvisum?
if so, i have to wait until there is a solution, if not, i have to try to solve the problem on my computer.
cheers
paul otter
 
Re: nvda and braille

Anouk Radix
 

Hi, I work in English as well as in Dutch. But use the standard braille table.
Greetings, Anouk,

On 16 Oct 2016, at 19:29, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

No, you can't import a new Braille table from Jaws or Window-Eyes, since the
format is different.

In wich language you work?

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Anouk Radix
Data: 16 de outubro de 2016 12:43
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] nvda and braille



Hi everyone,

I recently switched from mac os x to windows 10.

I use both nvda and windoweyes. I like nvda a lot because its really fast
with braille and speech and because it works well out of the box with many
programs.

I am mainly a braille user though and do miss the ability to use my thumb
keys to scroll throughout a programs screen. Furthermore I was wondering if
there are any complete braille tables for nvda? The ones I get contain a lot
of garbage between text and nos just one or two characters but a lot of it.
Is it perhaps possible to import a braille table from another screenreader
because I don't get this anywhere else?

Thanks in advance for any info,

Greetings, Anouk,
Re: getting the repeting of the subject line in an e-mail to stop repeting when you open a message

Christo Vorster
 

Hi Joseph

 

I don’t intend in any way to get involved in the developing or writing of any solutions, simply because I’m not clued up on computer, or software programming.

 

Thank you for your explanation. Although, for many of us, I think that much of it is too technical, but I enjoyed reading it as it I now understand, even better, the emencity of the work you and the developers does.

 

Thanks very much for making our, the people who can only use NVDA and all the addons and plugins, to do our work.

 

Thanks again, I’m sure I speak on behalf of the NVDA community when I thank you.

 

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, 15 October 2016 1:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] getting the repeting of the subject line in an e-mail to stop repeting when you open a message

 

Hi everyone,

Okay, the following is a bit technical, so I’ll try my best to explain what’s going on. But first, to answer Casey’s original question:

 

Preventing NVDA from announcing message fields when you open a message (Thunderbird, Outlook, etc.): yes and no. Let me address the “no” answer first, as I think it is important to understand some behind the scenes work:

NVDA is armed with strategies to deal with specific controls and how it should act accordingly. For example, NVDA can treat some lists as tables, announce terminal output, read dialog texts and so on. To house these strategies (termed “behaviors” in NVDA development world), a specific subsystem is devoted to telling NVDA how it should act when meeting certain controls. This subsystem is divided into two parts:

·         Behaviors mix-in: a collection of strategies to work with various controls such as dialogs.

·         Control definitions: each accessibility API layer allows developers to specify what NVDA should do when meeting specific controls.

The advantage of this is that it is easy to extend this subsystem, but with a cost: once known, NVDA will hold onto known controls. But it is possible to tweak behaviors and add additional extensions on top of it (for example, telling NVDA to announce dialog text in reverse order).

Now the “yes” answer: it might be possible to tell NVDA to not announce message headers, provided that NVDA can recognize such cases. This is because message headers are housed inside a dialog, and this one is a generic MSAA/IAccessible dialog (from NVDA’s perspective), or in some cases, NVDA is told to announce contents of a window automatically.

 

Technical: At least in Outlook, window class name for this dialog is #32770 (very generic MSAA dialog), and it’s the matter of subclassing NVDAObjects.behaviors.Dialog) and attaching it to an overlay class. This is similar to what I did back in June to deal with newer style User Account Control dialog in Windows 10 version 1607 (took me two days to figure out the class name for the dialog and told NVDA to treat what appeared to be a window as a dialog; because it was a secure screen, I had to write a custom global plugin to figure out what was happening inside).

 

A challenge for would-be aspiring NVDA developers (I might not be able to do it for a while due to speech competitions): write a working algorithm that solves Casey’s issue. Define the problem, your research findings, source code file names/lines that needs to be modified, why your idea is good and demonstrate that it actually works. For bonus points, add one or more notes describing cases where your work would (and will) fail (I put this as a bonus point so you can think carefully before writing your solution). I’ll accept solutions from those who are:

 

·         Determined and dedicated to help someone in our community despite setbacks.

·         Willing to learn NVDA source code.

 

I will add bonus points if you:

 

·         Address your solution as though you are talking to Casey directly.

·         Are willing to explain in simple terms what’s going on (don’t copy me; come up with explanations in your own words).

·         If writing source code, conform to NV Access coding style (camel case, tabs for indentation, etc.).

 

I added these for an important reason: developers should be servants and see solutions from users’ perspective (someone who have never heard of Python, NVDA source code and what not). Please send your solutions to me directly, and I’ll accept answers until end of October. Whichever receives highest points from judges will be considered for inclusion in an NVDA issue (I’d like to ask some seasoned devs here to be judges).


thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] getting the repeting of the subject line in an e-mail to stop repeting when you open a message

 

Hi, Gene,

 

I don't think it works inprograms like outlook and windows live mail but it does work in thunderbird. That's what I'm using.

 

Rosemarie

On 10/14/2016 3:17 PM, Gene wrote:

I should add that I'm not saying you shouldn't use rose's method.  I don't have an opinion.  I haven't tried it.  Just pressing up arrow is easier than issuing the read to end command.  My main concern is not to make unsupported assumptions as I discussed before.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 5:11 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] getting the repeting of the subject line in an e-mail to stop repeting when you open a message

 

I think it was Arleen who told us about it awhile back. I went into
keyboard settings and checked the box for skim reading. Try it and see
if it helps.





On 10/14/2016 3:07 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
> Hey, cool trick!  This saves a step! I'll do it!
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>> Hi, Roger,
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>> What I do is when I open a message, I hit up arrow and the message is
>> read out automatically. I have skim reading checked. That's in the
>> keyboard setting in the NVDA menu.
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>> Rosemarie
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>> On 10/14/2016 2:21 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
>>> NVDA has been doing this with Thunderbird for several years now. 
>>> Guess they can't fix it. What I do is open a message and immediately
>>> hit ctrl plus Home.  This kills the unwanted repeating speech and
>>> puts you right at the top of the body of the message.  Then just hit
>>> nvda key plus down arrow and it will read the entire message to the
>>> end if you want without any repeating of subject line.
>>>
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>>>> Hi I am using Thunderbird the latest version sorry about that.
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Re: Does updating NVDA preserve setttings?

Brian's Mail list account
 

Well its supposed to do so. It kept mine, but in the past, just occasionally, it has reverted to something else. When I asked about this nobody could duplicate it, but I fancy its more likely that the original settings file was slightly corrupted in some way and parts of it were not readable at install time and hence the default settings got put in though at least let you hear what was going on. Strangely this seems to affect portable versions more often than installed ones. If you have ever had a faulty install and tried again I know this can leave things a bit strange in the .ini files.
If its a serious problem all the time, it might be worth reporting it.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "slery" <slerythema@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 6:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Does updating NVDA preserve setttings?


This last update to 2016.3 did not keep my speech settings and I had to go in and reset them.



Cindy



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 10:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Does updating NVDA preserve setttings?



John,

Someone else who uses a Braille display will have to absolutely confirm with regard to that. My experience with upgrading NVDA from release to release using the internal update feature or installing release candidate software has kept all of my settings preserved as well as all the add-ons I've installed. This is common practice now and the only deviation I commonly see from it is the inclusion of a specific question during certain installs where a question is asked as to whether you'd like to do a clean install and telling you this resets everything back to "out of the box" condition. NVDA has never presented me with one of these and has always carried my settings forward.
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Re: Ask developers: Synth Driver: Async or Sync speakText

Brian's Mail list account
 

You cannot subscribe to the development list then, or is it that you have not managed to get subscribed.

I think its best this is sorted as I'm sure there will be lots of questions like this that will need asking.

You could also ask on the add-ons list as well, or pose it as a possible extension using git hub.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tuan Le Anh" <tuanla1972@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 2:31 AM
Subject: [nvda] Ask developers: Synth Driver: Async or Sync speakText


Hi there.
My name is Tuan Le Anh. I am developing Vietnamese TTS for NVDA.
I just wanted to ask a question but don't have permission to post in developer mail group.
So, I am sending to you with hope you will help me.
My problem is that I can't get speakText function to work properly.
If speakText is synchronized function, NVDA freezes while TTS reads some text.
If speakText is async, Say All feature doesn't work properly: system caret moves to end of text at once instead of moving along with reading text, or system caret doesn't move and NVDA reads only few lines of text (reads around 10 lines then stops).
Please, help me as blind people in Vietnam really need my portable synthesizer.
Thank you and looking forward to your replying,
Tuan Le Anh.
Re: Just in case nobody has seen this post by Jamie on the development list..

Brian's Mail list account
 

I think according to what I have been reading he problem has been getting worse since Firefox 39 or so.

As Jamie said in that message you can fix it by downloading one of the most recent nightly builds of Firefox from the development site of Mozilla. I've not bothered as it only seems to happen sometimes, but the question still not answered is why its so flaky and some people get it all the time, whilst others get it rarely.

If you are interested have a look on the nvda development list. There have been comments about it for some months.
However I don't think this is the problem those who cannot get nvda2016.3 to work from a clean install have. This seems to be something different, as yet not duplicated by any of the developers, so trying to find it is a bit hard when you cannot see any issues.
I'm not technical enough to know what else might affect this. The re registering of that windows file was the main suggestion for this type of problem but I suppose it could be any other software that is running all the time in the background and the part where it was working on older versions is peculiar too, that would point to nvda having had a major change in some way, but if that were true, then an updated version would still fail I'd have thought.


Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Just in case nobody has seen this post by Jamie on the development list..


hi.
are you refering to the problem which i mentioned in using nvda 2016.3
with firefox or its a new problem?
in which version of firefox, this major bug which you mentioned occure?
thanks for informing us.

On 10/16/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
If you're using Firefox, there is a major bug in Firefox stable which can
cause this among other strange things such as menus disappearing. It took us

months to track this down, but it's now fixed in Firefox nightly. I'm not
quite sure when it'll make it into a stable release.

Sent from a mobile device

On 16 Oct. 2016, at 2:30 am, Brandon Keith Biggs
<brandonkeithbiggs@...> wrote:

Hello,
I have been noticing that more and more websites are starting to show up as

just a URL. What happens is the website shows up for a little while, then
all of a sudden, the website will disappear and just the URL shows up.
This mostly happens on article or blog websites. about 50% of the time, a
refresh works and everything is fine, but the other 50 will show up for a
little while then go to the URL again.
One site that is particularly terrible is the site you need to setup your G

Suite account. I was tasked to do this for the company I work for and I
can't because it just shows:
https://admin.google.com/setup/u/0/apps#DomainSettings/notab=1&subtab=subscriptions

That's it. I'm able to see there is something else on my screen because for

a split second I hear:
link graphic apps authuser=0

then it goes to the URL. What's happening to these sites? Is it a loading
problem?
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs
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Re: Ask developers: Synth Driver: Async or Sync speakText

Tuan Le Anh <tuanla1972@...>
 

Great! 

I didn't understand what is GetLastIndex used for.

Now the system caret moves correctly with my synthesizer!

Thank you very much!.
Re: Does updating NVDA preserve setttings?

slery <slerythema@...>
 

This last update to 2016.3 did not keep my speech settings and I had to go in and reset them.

 

Cindy

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 10:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Does updating NVDA preserve setttings?

 

John,

        Someone else who uses a Braille display will have to absolutely confirm with regard to that.  My experience with upgrading NVDA from release to release using the internal update feature or installing release candidate software has kept all of my settings preserved as well as all the add-ons I've installed.  This is common practice now and the only deviation I commonly see from it is the inclusion of a specific question during certain installs where a question is asked as to whether you'd like to do a clean install and telling you this resets everything back to "out of the box" condition.   NVDA has never presented me with one of these and has always carried my settings forward.
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Re: how do mkae NVDA stop saying level 1 or level 2 when i go to different things`

mohammad suliman
 

hi, from NVDA menu, "preferences" > "object presentation" > then uncheck the "report object position information" checkbox. As said previously, this info helps a lot to understand the structure of tree view. Also, you won't be able to get the "index in group" and the "group count" info. E.G, if you navigate to the Firefox icon on the desktop, you will hear only "Mozilla Firefox", and not "Mozilla Firefox 10 of 25"
best!

On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 at 08:05 Christo Vorster <christo.vorster@...> wrote:
Hi

Report headings is unchecked and NVDA still announce level 1 or level 2

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre Fisher
Sent: Friday, 14 October 2016 5:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do mkae NVDA stop saying level 1 or level 2 when i go to different things`

Turn off report headings in the document formatting dialog.

On 10/14/16, Casey <cwollner@...> wrote:
> Hi I ma using the latest NVDA and every time I go threw my e-mail inbox.
> It says level 1 or level 2 when I get to different parts of my mail
> program.
> Where do I go to get this to stop?
>
>
> --
> Casey
>
>
>
>
Re: how do mkae NVDA stop saying level 1 or level 2 when i go to different things`

Christo Vorster
 

Hi

Report headings is unchecked and NVDA still announce level 1 or level 2

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre Fisher
Sent: Friday, 14 October 2016 5:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do mkae NVDA stop saying level 1 or level 2 when i go to different things`

Turn off report headings in the document formatting dialog.

On 10/14/16, Casey <cwollner@...> wrote:
Hi I ma using the latest NVDA and every time I go threw my e-mail inbox.
It says level 1 or level 2 when I get to different parts of my mail
program.
Where do I go to get this to stop?


--
Casey
Re: a new version of open office

Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...>
 

Hi Rosemary,

It seems to work well on my system. I noticed that when I installed it there was a check box to activate java access bridge. Maybe that is what helped.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 11:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a new version of open office

Hi, Gary,


I hope it's more accessible than the previous version.


Rosemarie




On 10/15/2016 3:32 PM, Gary Metzler wrote:
Hi Rosemary,

Libreoffice is now up to version 5.2.

-----Original Message----- From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a new version of open office

Hi,


How do you get libre office to read a document? I'm just asking because
I'd like to be able to use NVDA down-arrow instead of always having to
press control down-arrow to read by paragraphs.


Rosemarie




On 10/15/2016 1:08 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
yes i recommend you to update.
because of security fixes, support of more secure components and also
security fixes in java.
i use libreoffice 4.4.6 and its realy great!
i did not test the newer version of openoffice until now.
God bless you and thanks.

On 10/13/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
I haven't tried it on my new computer yet. I'm thinking about it though.




On 10/12/2016 4:25 PM, Bobby wrote:
Hay I was just on the ninite web site and found out open office has
version 4.1.3. I was wondering if I should update to this version.
Can you please test and let me know because I have open office version
4.1.2. Hope it works
Re: Friend looking for simple nvda friendly book software.

slery <slerythema@...>
 

Does he have a smartphone? There are audio book players that will play the
mp3 as a book and I believe there are at least one or two that are free.

Cindy

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 2:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Friend looking for simple nvda friendly book software.

Ok here is the crux of this. Over here in the UK daisy and mp3 content is
often sent out on ram sticks. we even have stand alone stick players. A
listener has asked me if a piece of software exists that can play this
content say a folder at a time so he can listen on his laptop.
I've seen self voicing book players but they cost money and wondered if
there is an easy to use nvda compatible one around. OK he could go around
explorer playing tracks and making playlists, but he is not, shall we say,
really interested in computers,they are just a way of getting at 'stuff' and
the simpler the better!
Brian

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Re: FW: [win10] Labeling tables with Nvda

slery <slerythema@...>
 

Thank you so much for this information. I was wondering if such a thing was possible.

 

Filing this away in my help folder.

Cindy

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 1:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: [win10] Labeling tables with Nvda

 

Ashley,

 

It would help to know if you are using Word or Excel.

 

Assuming you are using Excel:

 

Check the table and see if there are any blank columns in it. Sighted users sometimes like to leave blank columns between blocks of data to make them visually clearer NVDA will label a contiguous set of columns i.e. no blank columns between them.  You can set these by placing the cursor in the leftmost cell of the title row and pressing NVDA+shift+c.

 

You can label each column that is separated by doing the same keystroke in its top cell. NVDA will then call out the heading of the orphan column , leave the blank column silent, and report all the headings of the columns that are touching each other.

 

The same applies to the row heading, Place the cursor in the top left corner of the table if there are no blank column titles in the header row and press NVDA+shift+r to define the column that contains the row names.

 

Tip:

If there are any blank columns you can always place a hyphen (-) or some other minor character in the blank header cell and this will cause NVDA to treat the entire row as relating to the left most column items even if the second column remains blank below the header row.  

 

If you are using Word then this extract from the NVDA user manual should help you:

 

8.1.1. Automatic Column and Row Header Reading

NVDA is able to automatically announce appropriate row and column headers when navigating around tables in Microsoft Word. This firstly requires that the Report Table row / column headers option In NVDA's Document Formatting dialog be turned on. Secondly, NVDA needs to know which row or column contains the headers in any given table. After moving to the first cell in the column or row containing the headers, use one of the following commands:

Name

Key

Description

Set column headers

NVDA+shift+c

Pressing this once tells NVDA this is the first header cell in the row that contains column headers, which should be automatically announced when moving between columns below this row. Pressing twice will clear the setting.

Set row headers

NVDA+shift+r

Pressing this once tells NVDA this is the first header cell in the column that contains row headers, which should be automatically announced when moving between rows after this column. Pressing twice will clear the setting.

These settings will be stored in the document as bookmarks compatible with other Screen Readers such as Jaws. This means that users of other screen readers who open this document at a later date will automatically have the row and column headers already set.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 4:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] FW: [win10] Labeling tables with Nvda

 

Hi,

Can anyone help this person? Thanks.

Cheers,

joseph

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ashley Coleman
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 8:36 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Labeling tables with Nvda

 

Hey all

I hope you all are doing well.

 

Does anyone know how to label columns in tables so that NVDA reads the title of the cell? If that makes any since.

Thanks.

 

 

Thank you

Ashley Coleman

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