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Re: New version of tesseractOCR

Dave Grossoehme
 

That should be duckduckgo for the search engine.

Dave

On 8/11/2022 10:02 AM, Ravindran V.S. wrote:
Hi,
Where do we find the multipage option?
The new option I noticed under the settings is the Password.
Thanks,
Ravi.
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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Aravind R
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 11:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New version of tesseractOCR

thank you very much mam. i will install and test.

On 09/08/2022, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
Hello!


One more version of tesseractOCR add-on!


This time the new feature is the multi-page scanning!


Direct link:

https://github.com/ruifontes/tesseractOCR/releases/download/2022.08/te
sseractOCR-2022.08.nvda-addon


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
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Re: New version of tesseractOCR

Ravindran V.S.
 

Hi,
Where do we find the multipage option?
The new option I noticed under the settings is the Password.
Thanks,
Ravi.
V.S.Ravindran.
Excuses leads to failure!””

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Aravind R
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 11:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New version of tesseractOCR

thank you very much mam. i will install and test.

On 09/08/2022, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
Hello!


One more version of tesseractOCR add-on!


This time the new feature is the multi-page scanning!


Direct link:

https://github.com/ruifontes/tesseractOCR/releases/download/2022.08/te
sseractOCR-2022.08.nvda-addon


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team








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Re: Unable To Display Status Bar IN Latest Thunderbird Version 102.1.1

Curtis Delzer
 

no I hadn't said a thing about any of that, so probably doesn't fit. sorry.

On 8/10/2022 7:36 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
and Curtis,

you are probably one of those who complains about too many message and too high a traffic on lists you are on.  I never complain about this because of my tried and true method of filtering/grouping. Let 'em come; if I am interested they get read and if I'm not they go bye bye!

On 8/10/2022 12:05 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

they updated so status bar you can under the view menu enable or disable. 102.1.2.

On 8/6/2022 7:59 PM, Gene wrote:
This may be something NVDA will have to update.  The status bar is still read when using JAWS.  Whether Thunderbird or NVDA should correct the situation is something I'll leave to the two sets of developers.

Gene

On 8/6/2022 9:40 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

Has anyone upgraded Thunderbird to the latest version 102.1.1?  If so, can you read the status bar?  I cannot on my system: Windows 11, 64 bit with latest NVDA 2022.2.


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Re: Unable To Display Status Bar IN Latest Thunderbird Version 102.1.1

Curtis Delzer
 

 when I am looking at the messages list says "You are currently on-line." from within reading mail it says "no status bar."does in t-bird 102.1.2.


On 8/10/2022 6:44 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't use it much but it tells you things like the number of unread messages in the folder you are in and the total number of messages in a folder.  It also tells you if you are online or not.

You can get the information about the number of unread messages by moving to the tree view, at which time the number of unread messages in the folder is announced along with a little other information.
You can hear the total number of messages in a folder by being in the message list and moving to a message and letting the information read.  As in other standard lists, the last information will be information like 5 of 20, in other words where you are in the list and the number of items.  The status line gives you those pieces of information more quickly and efficiently but you can get them other ways.

Gene

On 8/10/2022 8:02 AM, brice Mijares wrote:

What is the importance of a status bar in TB?

On 8/10/2022 5:59 AM, Gene wrote:
No.  The issue now and in perhaps more than one earlier version is that when you issue the read status line command, NVDA key end, it isn't read and the announcement no status line information found, or something very similar is spoken.

Gene

On 8/10/2022 1:16 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

Hi, was saying I can disable it or enable it, I thought that was the issue in the earlier t-bird.

On 8/9/2022 9:46 PM, Gene wrote:
Are you saying the read status line command reads it and when does it read it, when it is checked or unchecked.  It shouldn't be shown if it is unchecked and it shouldn't be read.

Gene
On 8/9/2022 11:43 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

I get the message "unchecked."

On 8/9/2022 9:31 PM, Gene wrote:
If yew mean in the tool bars submenu of the view menu, it is checked by default and when I read the status bar, I get the message no status bar information.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 11:22 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

but, that is what I am using, NVDA, and it is enabled in latest t-bird.


On 8/9/2022 9:12 PM, Gene wrote:
I tried both and it isn't read using NVDA.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 11:05 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

they updated so status bar you can under the view menu enable or disable. 102.1.2.

On 8/6/2022 7:59 PM, Gene wrote:
This may be something NVDA will have to update.  The status bar is still read when using JAWS.  Whether Thunderbird or NVDA should correct the situation is something I'll leave to the two sets of developers.

Gene

On 8/6/2022 9:40 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

Has anyone upgraded Thunderbird to the latest version 102.1.1?  If so, can you read the status bar?  I cannot on my system: Windows 11, 64 bit with latest NVDA 2022.2.


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Re: Can we use SPSS and NVIVO with NVDA?

Chris Maae
 

Hi,

When I used SPSS I found the experience both with Jaws and NVDA to be horrible. I was able to perform the basic important tasks such as reading the p values for whatever test you had to run such as Z test, but I had to get sighted assistance to simply get Jaws to read the two views after some work that the assistive technology instructor at my university did on their end. I will see if I can find the instructions on how to set up SPSS to work with Jaws because that is the only program that worked with SPSS. In closing my advice would be to work with your professor and explain that this software is nearly inaccessible with my screen reader. I wish you the best.


Re: Can we use SPSS and NVIVO with NVDA?

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  I couldn't use SPSS nearly twenty years ago with JAWS for a university statistics course, and I wasn't an NVDA user at the time.  I recall a discussion on this list about this, but I don't believe the alternative to the GUI was mentioned.  I wish I'd known about it.  I never used NVIVO.

Louise


Re: Unable To Display Status Bar IN Latest Thunderbird Version 102.1.1

Gene
 

There are various ways to deal with heavy traffic lists and you are discussing one. 
I get a lot of messages, though not nearly as many as you.  I usually read them all or most of them because I'm curious and I would wonder if I had missed anything interesting if I skipped some.  There are, of course, things I'm not interested in and I may skip.

Since I don't want to skip most messages, I haven't used methods for managing high volumes of messages.  There are certainly ways of doing so. 

One method I know about and that some people may like is that Groups.io allows you to receive the first message in any thread and then, I'm not sure how, you have to tell Groups.io that you want to receive the rest of the messages sent in that thread.

This is related to your discussion.  I often see people asking about something that has been discussed within the last week or two.  I think it is a good idea for people who don't want to read a lot of mail from various Groups.io lists to use this system.  That way, if they check their messages daily, they would enormously cut down the number of messages they get and at the same time, know if threads they are interested in are starting.

of course, topics often drift from the original topic and the thread continues so this system will cause you to possibly miss discussions of that sort you would be interested in but it would allow people to know about many discussions they might miss if they don't follow the list much because of the high volume of messages on a particular list.

Gene

On 8/10/2022 10:53 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

hi Gene,

I'm sorry about sounding a bit coarse, but I am on a lot of lists. I enjoy learning new things. Obviously on heavy traffic lists, I don't read every message.  But using my method of grouping and filtering, I can literally get between 1000 and 2000 messages daily and spend between an hour and an hour and a half total in going through them. 

Now i don't know how many times, I have gotten e-mails to heavy traffic lists from people who say things like: "hasn't this thread gone on long enough" or "moderators please close this topic."  When I contact them, I find out that they have all their messages going into the inbox and don't know or could care less about filtering and grouping.

I guess what I'm saying is that people who won't/can't learn about such things should be on heavy traffic list or if they are they shouldn't complain about the heavy traffic.

...And before, I get booted from this list, let me say that's about all I have to say about this topic--since it definitely isn't about NVDA.


On 8/10/2022 11:17 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't group messages in that way.  Its interesting to see that use of the status bar.

Gene

On 8/10/2022 9:33 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Curtis,

If you filter messages and if you group by conversation, reading the status bar is a quick way of determining how many messages are in a particular folder and how many are unread.

This is very helpful if like me, you have 17 mailing lists you are subscribed to and want to select and read only those messages from each list you are interested in.


On 8/10/2022 9:02 AM, brice Mijares wrote:

What is the importance of a status bar in TB?

On 8/10/2022 5:59 AM, Gene wrote:
No.  The issue now and in perhaps more than one earlier version is that when you issue the read status line command, NVDA key end, it isn't read and the announcement no status line information found, or something very similar is spoken.

Gene

On 8/10/2022 1:16 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

Hi, was saying I can disable it or enable it, I thought that was the issue in the earlier t-bird.

On 8/9/2022 9:46 PM, Gene wrote:
Are you saying the read status line command reads it and when does it read it, when it is checked or unchecked.  It shouldn't be shown if it is unchecked and it shouldn't be read.

Gene
On 8/9/2022 11:43 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

I get the message "unchecked."

On 8/9/2022 9:31 PM, Gene wrote:
If yew mean in the tool bars submenu of the view menu, it is checked by default and when I read the status bar, I get the message no status bar information.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 11:22 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

but, that is what I am using, NVDA, and it is enabled in latest t-bird.


On 8/9/2022 9:12 PM, Gene wrote:
I tried both and it isn't read using NVDA.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 11:05 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

they updated so status bar you can under the view menu enable or disable. 102.1.2.

On 8/6/2022 7:59 PM, Gene wrote:
This may be something NVDA will have to update.  The status bar is still read when using JAWS.  Whether Thunderbird or NVDA should correct the situation is something I'll leave to the two sets of developers.

Gene

On 8/6/2022 9:40 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

Has anyone upgraded Thunderbird to the latest version 102.1.1?  If so, can you read the status bar?  I cannot on my system: Windows 11, 64 bit with latest NVDA 2022.2.


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Re: Unable To Display Status Bar IN Latest Thunderbird Version 102.1.1

Ron Canazzi
 

hi Gene,

I'm sorry about sounding a bit coarse, but I am on a lot of lists. I enjoy learning new things. Obviously on heavy traffic lists, I don't read every message.  But using my method of grouping and filtering, I can literally get between 1000 and 2000 messages daily and spend between an hour and an hour and a half total in going through them. 

Now i don't know how many times, I have gotten e-mails to heavy traffic lists from people who say things like: "hasn't this thread gone on long enough" or "moderators please close this topic."  When I contact them, I find out that they have all their messages going into the inbox and don't know or could care less about filtering and grouping.

I guess what I'm saying is that people who won't/can't learn about such things should be on heavy traffic list or if they are they shouldn't complain about the heavy traffic.

...And before, I get booted from this list, let me say that's about all I have to say about this topic--since it definitely isn't about NVDA.


On 8/10/2022 11:17 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't group messages in that way.  Its interesting to see that use of the status bar.

Gene

On 8/10/2022 9:33 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Curtis,

If you filter messages and if you group by conversation, reading the status bar is a quick way of determining how many messages are in a particular folder and how many are unread.

This is very helpful if like me, you have 17 mailing lists you are subscribed to and want to select and read only those messages from each list you are interested in.


On 8/10/2022 9:02 AM, brice Mijares wrote:

What is the importance of a status bar in TB?

On 8/10/2022 5:59 AM, Gene wrote:
No.  The issue now and in perhaps more than one earlier version is that when you issue the read status line command, NVDA key end, it isn't read and the announcement no status line information found, or something very similar is spoken.

Gene

On 8/10/2022 1:16 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

Hi, was saying I can disable it or enable it, I thought that was the issue in the earlier t-bird.

On 8/9/2022 9:46 PM, Gene wrote:
Are you saying the read status line command reads it and when does it read it, when it is checked or unchecked.  It shouldn't be shown if it is unchecked and it shouldn't be read.

Gene
On 8/9/2022 11:43 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

I get the message "unchecked."

On 8/9/2022 9:31 PM, Gene wrote:
If yew mean in the tool bars submenu of the view menu, it is checked by default and when I read the status bar, I get the message no status bar information.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 11:22 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

but, that is what I am using, NVDA, and it is enabled in latest t-bird.


On 8/9/2022 9:12 PM, Gene wrote:
I tried both and it isn't read using NVDA.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 11:05 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

they updated so status bar you can under the view menu enable or disable. 102.1.2.

On 8/6/2022 7:59 PM, Gene wrote:
This may be something NVDA will have to update.  The status bar is still read when using JAWS.  Whether Thunderbird or NVDA should correct the situation is something I'll leave to the two sets of developers.

Gene

On 8/6/2022 9:40 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

Has anyone upgraded Thunderbird to the latest version 102.1.1?  If so, can you read the status bar?  I cannot on my system: Windows 11, 64 bit with latest NVDA 2022.2.


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Solution for NVDA Remote on the IPhone with Bluetooth keyboard lacking NVDA key.

Shawn
 

Hi, I accidentally paired my Matias keyboard with my phone as if it was a Windows or Android device, and low and behold all those Windows keys that the IPhone doesn't care about and don't work in apple mode like NVDA and applications actually go through to the phone and can control your NVDA on your Windows machine. Now I need to see if I can trick the IPhone into letting me pair the keyboard twice, once in Windows mode on key 4 and once in Apple mode on key 2. Probably not, and I'm not going to try it now, but one of these days. My Bluetooth on the PC bit the dust, and in trying to fix that connection I accidentally unpaired the keyboard with the phone, and then accidentally paired it again using the wrong key so that the keyboard thought the phone was a Windows or Android device.

Shawn Klein


Re: Unable To Display Status Bar IN Latest Thunderbird Version 102.1.1

Gene
 

I don't group messages in that way.  Its interesting to see that use of the status bar.

Gene

On 8/10/2022 9:33 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Curtis,

If you filter messages and if you group by conversation, reading the status bar is a quick way of determining how many messages are in a particular folder and how many are unread.

This is very helpful if like me, you have 17 mailing lists you are subscribed to and want to select and read only those messages from each list you are interested in.


On 8/10/2022 9:02 AM, brice Mijares wrote:

What is the importance of a status bar in TB?

On 8/10/2022 5:59 AM, Gene wrote:
No.  The issue now and in perhaps more than one earlier version is that when you issue the read status line command, NVDA key end, it isn't read and the announcement no status line information found, or something very similar is spoken.

Gene

On 8/10/2022 1:16 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

Hi, was saying I can disable it or enable it, I thought that was the issue in the earlier t-bird.

On 8/9/2022 9:46 PM, Gene wrote:
Are you saying the read status line command reads it and when does it read it, when it is checked or unchecked.  It shouldn't be shown if it is unchecked and it shouldn't be read.

Gene
On 8/9/2022 11:43 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

I get the message "unchecked."

On 8/9/2022 9:31 PM, Gene wrote:
If yew mean in the tool bars submenu of the view menu, it is checked by default and when I read the status bar, I get the message no status bar information.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 11:22 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

but, that is what I am using, NVDA, and it is enabled in latest t-bird.


On 8/9/2022 9:12 PM, Gene wrote:
I tried both and it isn't read using NVDA.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 11:05 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

they updated so status bar you can under the view menu enable or disable. 102.1.2.

On 8/6/2022 7:59 PM, Gene wrote:
This may be something NVDA will have to update.  The status bar is still read when using JAWS.  Whether Thunderbird or NVDA should correct the situation is something I'll leave to the two sets of developers.

Gene

On 8/6/2022 9:40 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

Has anyone upgraded Thunderbird to the latest version 102.1.1?  If so, can you read the status bar?  I cannot on my system: Windows 11, 64 bit with latest NVDA 2022.2.


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Re: Unable To Display Status Bar IN Latest Thunderbird Version 102.1.1

Ron Canazzi
 

and Curtis,

you are probably one of those who complains about too many message and too high a traffic on lists you are on.  I never complain about this because of my tried and true method of filtering/grouping. Let 'em come; if I am interested they get read and if I'm not they go bye bye!

On 8/10/2022 12:05 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

they updated so status bar you can under the view menu enable or disable. 102.1.2.

On 8/6/2022 7:59 PM, Gene wrote:
This may be something NVDA will have to update.  The status bar is still read when using JAWS.  Whether Thunderbird or NVDA should correct the situation is something I'll leave to the two sets of developers.

Gene

On 8/6/2022 9:40 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

Has anyone upgraded Thunderbird to the latest version 102.1.1?  If so, can you read the status bar?  I cannot on my system: Windows 11, 64 bit with latest NVDA 2022.2.


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Re: Unable To Display Status Bar IN Latest Thunderbird Version 102.1.1

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Curtis,

If you filter messages and if you group by conversation, reading the status bar is a quick way of determining how many messages are in a particular folder and how many are unread.

This is very helpful if like me, you have 17 mailing lists you are subscribed to and want to select and read only those messages from each list you are interested in.


On 8/10/2022 9:02 AM, brice Mijares wrote:

What is the importance of a status bar in TB?

On 8/10/2022 5:59 AM, Gene wrote:
No.  The issue now and in perhaps more than one earlier version is that when you issue the read status line command, NVDA key end, it isn't read and the announcement no status line information found, or something very similar is spoken.

Gene

On 8/10/2022 1:16 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

Hi, was saying I can disable it or enable it, I thought that was the issue in the earlier t-bird.

On 8/9/2022 9:46 PM, Gene wrote:
Are you saying the read status line command reads it and when does it read it, when it is checked or unchecked.  It shouldn't be shown if it is unchecked and it shouldn't be read.

Gene
On 8/9/2022 11:43 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

I get the message "unchecked."

On 8/9/2022 9:31 PM, Gene wrote:
If yew mean in the tool bars submenu of the view menu, it is checked by default and when I read the status bar, I get the message no status bar information.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 11:22 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

but, that is what I am using, NVDA, and it is enabled in latest t-bird.


On 8/9/2022 9:12 PM, Gene wrote:
I tried both and it isn't read using NVDA.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 11:05 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

they updated so status bar you can under the view menu enable or disable. 102.1.2.

On 8/6/2022 7:59 PM, Gene wrote:
This may be something NVDA will have to update.  The status bar is still read when using JAWS.  Whether Thunderbird or NVDA should correct the situation is something I'll leave to the two sets of developers.

Gene

On 8/6/2022 9:40 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

Has anyone upgraded Thunderbird to the latest version 102.1.1?  If so, can you read the status bar?  I cannot on my system: Windows 11, 64 bit with latest NVDA 2022.2.


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Re: Can we use SPSS and NVIVO with NVDA?

 

I know nothing about NVIVO, but way back when I did use SPSS, and pre-GUI.  The command line interface did still exist when last I checked, and it's worth looking into as it can and does do everything the GUI can, just differently.
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Re: Unable To Display Status Bar IN Latest Thunderbird Version 102.1.1

brice Mijares
 

I know how many messages in the inbox by listening to NVDA echo 1 of x amount and it is easy to know if you are on line or not. I could see the need of a statis bar in word processors, but in email clients, no need for me personally. Have a good one.

On 8/10/2022 6:44 AM, Gene wrote:

I don't use it much but it tells you things like the number of unread messages in the folder you are in and the total number of messages in a folder.  It also tells you if you are online or not.

You can get the information about the number of unread messages by moving to the tree view, at which time the number of unread messages in the folder is announced along with a little other information.
You can hear the total number of messages in a folder by being in the message list and moving to a message and letting the information read.  As in other standard lists, the last information will be information like 5 of 20, in other words where you are in the list and the number of items.  The status line gives you those pieces of information more quickly and efficiently but you can get them other ways.

Gene

On 8/10/2022 8:02 AM, brice Mijares wrote:

What is the importance of a status bar in TB?

On 8/10/2022 5:59 AM, Gene wrote:
No.  The issue now and in perhaps more than one earlier version is that when you issue the read status line command, NVDA key end, it isn't read and the announcement no status line information found, or something very similar is spoken.

Gene

On 8/10/2022 1:16 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

Hi, was saying I can disable it or enable it, I thought that was the issue in the earlier t-bird.

On 8/9/2022 9:46 PM, Gene wrote:
Are you saying the read status line command reads it and when does it read it, when it is checked or unchecked.  It shouldn't be shown if it is unchecked and it shouldn't be read.

Gene
On 8/9/2022 11:43 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

I get the message "unchecked."

On 8/9/2022 9:31 PM, Gene wrote:
If yew mean in the tool bars submenu of the view menu, it is checked by default and when I read the status bar, I get the message no status bar information.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 11:22 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

but, that is what I am using, NVDA, and it is enabled in latest t-bird.


On 8/9/2022 9:12 PM, Gene wrote:
I tried both and it isn't read using NVDA.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 11:05 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

they updated so status bar you can under the view menu enable or disable. 102.1.2.

On 8/6/2022 7:59 PM, Gene wrote:
This may be something NVDA will have to update.  The status bar is still read when using JAWS.  Whether Thunderbird or NVDA should correct the situation is something I'll leave to the two sets of developers.

Gene

On 8/6/2022 9:40 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

Has anyone upgraded Thunderbird to the latest version 102.1.1?  If so, can you read the status bar?  I cannot on my system: Windows 11, 64 bit with latest NVDA 2022.2.


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Re: Unable To Display Status Bar IN Latest Thunderbird Version 102.1.1

Gene
 

I don't use it much but it tells you things like the number of unread messages in the folder you are in and the total number of messages in a folder.  It also tells you if you are online or not.

You can get the information about the number of unread messages by moving to the tree view, at which time the number of unread messages in the folder is announced along with a little other information.
You can hear the total number of messages in a folder by being in the message list and moving to a message and letting the information read.  As in other standard lists, the last information will be information like 5 of 20, in other words where you are in the list and the number of items.  The status line gives you those pieces of information more quickly and efficiently but you can get them other ways.

Gene

On 8/10/2022 8:02 AM, brice Mijares wrote:

What is the importance of a status bar in TB?

On 8/10/2022 5:59 AM, Gene wrote:
No.  The issue now and in perhaps more than one earlier version is that when you issue the read status line command, NVDA key end, it isn't read and the announcement no status line information found, or something very similar is spoken.

Gene

On 8/10/2022 1:16 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

Hi, was saying I can disable it or enable it, I thought that was the issue in the earlier t-bird.

On 8/9/2022 9:46 PM, Gene wrote:
Are you saying the read status line command reads it and when does it read it, when it is checked or unchecked.  It shouldn't be shown if it is unchecked and it shouldn't be read.

Gene
On 8/9/2022 11:43 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

I get the message "unchecked."

On 8/9/2022 9:31 PM, Gene wrote:
If yew mean in the tool bars submenu of the view menu, it is checked by default and when I read the status bar, I get the message no status bar information.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 11:22 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

but, that is what I am using, NVDA, and it is enabled in latest t-bird.


On 8/9/2022 9:12 PM, Gene wrote:
I tried both and it isn't read using NVDA.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 11:05 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

they updated so status bar you can under the view menu enable or disable. 102.1.2.

On 8/6/2022 7:59 PM, Gene wrote:
This may be something NVDA will have to update.  The status bar is still read when using JAWS.  Whether Thunderbird or NVDA should correct the situation is something I'll leave to the two sets of developers.

Gene

On 8/6/2022 9:40 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

Has anyone upgraded Thunderbird to the latest version 102.1.1?  If so, can you read the status bar?  I cannot on my system: Windows 11, 64 bit with latest NVDA 2022.2.


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Re: Unable To Display Status Bar IN Latest Thunderbird Version 102.1.1

Brian Moore
 

I am having the same experience. It is checked in the menu but nvda +end says "no status bar information"


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On 2022-08-10 8:59 a.m., Gene wrote:

No.  The issue now and in perhaps more than one earlier version is that when you issue the read status line command, NVDA key end, it isn't read and the announcement no status line information found, or something very similar is spoken.

Gene

On 8/10/2022 1:16 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

Hi, was saying I can disable it or enable it, I thought that was the issue in the earlier t-bird.

On 8/9/2022 9:46 PM, Gene wrote:
Are you saying the read status line command reads it and when does it read it, when it is checked or unchecked.  It shouldn't be shown if it is unchecked and it shouldn't be read.

Gene
On 8/9/2022 11:43 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

I get the message "unchecked."

On 8/9/2022 9:31 PM, Gene wrote:
If yew mean in the tool bars submenu of the view menu, it is checked by default and when I read the status bar, I get the message no status bar information.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 11:22 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

but, that is what I am using, NVDA, and it is enabled in latest t-bird.


On 8/9/2022 9:12 PM, Gene wrote:
I tried both and it isn't read using NVDA.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 11:05 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

they updated so status bar you can under the view menu enable or disable. 102.1.2.

On 8/6/2022 7:59 PM, Gene wrote:
This may be something NVDA will have to update.  The status bar is still read when using JAWS.  Whether Thunderbird or NVDA should correct the situation is something I'll leave to the two sets of developers.

Gene

On 8/6/2022 9:40 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

Has anyone upgraded Thunderbird to the latest version 102.1.1?  If so, can you read the status bar?  I cannot on my system: Windows 11, 64 bit with latest NVDA 2022.2.


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Re: Unable To Display Status Bar IN Latest Thunderbird Version 102.1.1

brice Mijares
 

What is the importance of a status bar in TB?

On 8/10/2022 5:59 AM, Gene wrote:

No.  The issue now and in perhaps more than one earlier version is that when you issue the read status line command, NVDA key end, it isn't read and the announcement no status line information found, or something very similar is spoken.

Gene

On 8/10/2022 1:16 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

Hi, was saying I can disable it or enable it, I thought that was the issue in the earlier t-bird.

On 8/9/2022 9:46 PM, Gene wrote:
Are you saying the read status line command reads it and when does it read it, when it is checked or unchecked.  It shouldn't be shown if it is unchecked and it shouldn't be read.

Gene
On 8/9/2022 11:43 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

I get the message "unchecked."

On 8/9/2022 9:31 PM, Gene wrote:
If yew mean in the tool bars submenu of the view menu, it is checked by default and when I read the status bar, I get the message no status bar information.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 11:22 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

but, that is what I am using, NVDA, and it is enabled in latest t-bird.


On 8/9/2022 9:12 PM, Gene wrote:
I tried both and it isn't read using NVDA.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 11:05 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

they updated so status bar you can under the view menu enable or disable. 102.1.2.

On 8/6/2022 7:59 PM, Gene wrote:
This may be something NVDA will have to update.  The status bar is still read when using JAWS.  Whether Thunderbird or NVDA should correct the situation is something I'll leave to the two sets of developers.

Gene

On 8/6/2022 9:40 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

Has anyone upgraded Thunderbird to the latest version 102.1.1?  If so, can you read the status bar?  I cannot on my system: Windows 11, 64 bit with latest NVDA 2022.2.


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Re: Unable To Display Status Bar IN Latest Thunderbird Version 102.1.1

Gene
 

No.  The issue now and in perhaps more than one earlier version is that when you issue the read status line command, NVDA key end, it isn't read and the announcement no status line information found, or something very similar is spoken.

Gene

On 8/10/2022 1:16 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

Hi, was saying I can disable it or enable it, I thought that was the issue in the earlier t-bird.

On 8/9/2022 9:46 PM, Gene wrote:
Are you saying the read status line command reads it and when does it read it, when it is checked or unchecked.  It shouldn't be shown if it is unchecked and it shouldn't be read.

Gene
On 8/9/2022 11:43 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

I get the message "unchecked."

On 8/9/2022 9:31 PM, Gene wrote:
If yew mean in the tool bars submenu of the view menu, it is checked by default and when I read the status bar, I get the message no status bar information.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 11:22 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

but, that is what I am using, NVDA, and it is enabled in latest t-bird.


On 8/9/2022 9:12 PM, Gene wrote:
I tried both and it isn't read using NVDA.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 11:05 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

they updated so status bar you can under the view menu enable or disable. 102.1.2.

On 8/6/2022 7:59 PM, Gene wrote:
This may be something NVDA will have to update.  The status bar is still read when using JAWS.  Whether Thunderbird or NVDA should correct the situation is something I'll leave to the two sets of developers.

Gene

On 8/6/2022 9:40 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

Has anyone upgraded Thunderbird to the latest version 102.1.1?  If so, can you read the status bar?  I cannot on my system: Windows 11, 64 bit with latest NVDA 2022.2.


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Re: Can we use SPSS and NVIVO with NVDA?

William
 

Hello,

I would say it is not completely accessible but at least usable.

Especially if you can spend some time to explore the part that is controling the SPSS using some sort of code then you can skip lots of interactions with the GUI.









zhu bonie 於 10/8/2022 17:44 寫道:

Hi, I'm a student majoring in social work. I need to learn SPSS and NVIVO. Does anyone know if these two software could be used with NVDA? If not, does anyone have any experience in using other Statistics Software and qualitative research software? Could you give me some suggestions? Thanks!


Can we use SPSS and NVIVO with NVDA?

zhu bonie
 

Hi, I'm a student majoring in social work. I need to learn SPSS and NVIVO. Does anyone know if these two software could be used with NVDA? If not, does anyone have any experience in using other Statistics Software and qualitative research software? Could you give me some suggestions? Thanks!

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