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Re: NVDA and Fractions

 

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 02:07 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
though why it should be dependent on what goes before in such a fashion is very odd indeed.

 It's an attempt at natural written language intelligence.  Many abbreviations for currencies are, in and of themselves, unpronounceable in English.  When they occur after a digit, however, the logical way to pronounce them is as the currency they represent.  The same trick is used for AM and PM (regardless of case) when it follows what looks like a time as opposed to elsewhere.  We all know that "AM" would be pronounce as in the sentence, "I am typing this right now."  I don't know how various synthesizers would handle PM absent the time context.
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Re: NVDA and Fractions

 

A very late PS on that regular expression I posted for capturing the time on Windows to make it pronounce correctly.  In my original I had the literal character space between the last digit and the A or P in AM or PM which does work for Windows system time.  But, if someone formatted time with more than one space, or a tab, or the like between the last digit and the A or P the AM/PM part would not be captured correctly.  The corrected regular expression uses the \s special character with the + quantifier to say any one or more occurrences of any of the "white space" characters.

([1]*[0-9]+)(.)([0-5]{1}[0-9]{1})\s+([a,A,p,P][m,M])

and use the following as the replacement expression:  \1 \3 \4

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Need Help on NVDA tool on citrix receiver

Srividya S <Srividya_S04@...>
 

HI Support Team,

 

We are performing accessibility testing using desktop browser using citrix receiver(virtual Desktop ).

The NVDA tool  is not enabled  using ctrl+alt +N  and unable to perform testing. Kindly help on the issue

 

Thanks,

Srividya.S

Mobile no: 9176452930

 

Re: NVDA and Fractions

 

Cearbhall,

          There are *lots* of online resources for regular expressions, but if you can lay your hands on the O'Reilly [publisher of "all things Unix"] book entitled Mastering Regular Expressions by Jeffrey E. F. Friedl that would not be a bad place to start.  Here are three different cheat sheets that I found helpful when I was trying to refresh my memory about how these things work.  One of the trickiest concepts is that you can have a regular expression match zero or more occurrences of a given character, which seems very odd, but if you think about how time is conventionally written out in many instances, there is no leading zero before 10 AM (or PM) and the one may or may not be there in any given instance of the time, so you need to be able to match zero or more occurrences of the digit 1 at the start.

https://www.cheatography.com/davechild/cheat-sheets/regular-expressions/ 

http://www.rexegg.com/regex-quickstart.html 

http://www.regular-expressions.info/reference.html 

           I have to warn you that it generally takes a bit of time to wrap one's head around regular expression syntax.  The nice thing is that there are websites that allow you to test the regular expression you've put together against a pattern to see if it will match it and even some that will allow you to specify a replace option so that you can see precisely what you'd get as a replacement by piecing together bits of the original string in different order, with different separators, etc.  Here is the site that I preferred for that purpose:

http://www.freeformatter.com/regex-tester.html

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Outlook 2016

Ralph Boersema
 

Dear Folks,

I admit that I don't regularly read these list messages and, therefore,
probably missed reading an earlier exchange about this topic. I have just
updated to Office 2016 and find that in Outlook NVDA does not read to me
whether a message is marked as read or unread. Is there some setting I need
to change in Outlook?

Warmly,
Ralph

Re: i've a problem with webvisum

Mallard
 

Yes, agreed.


I had to return to this version, because the one from teh official site started playing up, and saing "Server error" all the time...

Luckily we have James's version that works really great!


This guy has made a real difference in my computer life, with Codex and Webvisum...

Thanks James, even if you don't read this list....

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 18/10/2016 12:17, P. Otter ha scritto:
hi,
no, i meen the version changed by james scholes.
http://jscholes.net/webvisum-0.9.2-fx.xpi
download this one and remove the version that you get from the add-on page of firefox.
this version works without any problem.
remember first to uninstall the current version and restart firefox!
cheers
paul otter

----- Original Message ----- From: "Marco Oros" <marco.oros93@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 12:25 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] i've a problem with webvisum


Yes, but It means, that old version of webvisum doesn't work with current Firefox.
I tried this new version.




Re: Calm radio

Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@...>
 

I've just walked through the website and find it quite accessible for screen readers. My problem here is, that it's useless for me, becausse they don't propose possibilities for desktop or I understood this in this way.

Georgi


На 18.10.2016 г. в 14:12 ч., Георги Ламбов написа:

A question before the answer: is that any program for listening of

radio or it's only a radioStation? Becausse I've find a webSite named: calm radio, which radioStation proposes: jazz, relaxMusic, rock etc. Is that the same object?
На 18.10.2016 г. в 10:52 ч., Marco Oros написа:
I don't know, where to ask It, but can somebody of You find in this web a radio channels?

This is a Calm radio and It was accessible.

Please, try to make this accessible, if You know those programming languages of the web pages.

Thank You!

https://calmradio.com/en




Re: Calm radio

Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@...>
 

A question before the answer: is that any program for listening of

radio or it's only a radioStation? Becausse I've find a webSite named: calm radio, which radioStation proposes: jazz, relaxMusic, rock etc. Is that the same object?
На 18.10.2016 г. в 10:52 ч., Marco Oros написа:

I don't know, where to ask It, but can somebody of You find in this web a radio channels?

This is a Calm radio and It was accessible.

Please, try to make this accessible, if You know those programming languages of the web pages.

Thank You!

https://calmradio.com/en


Re: NVDA and Fractions

Quentin Christensen
 

There are a lot of sites which promise to teach you - some of the rely on colour for various things and I must confess I haven't used any of them lately to know what they are like.  If you do a search for "Regular expression tutorial" you should get heaps of results.  In the meantime, the Wikipedia page goes probably too far into explanation of what it is, but does have some examples: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_expression

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

Brian and Quentin,

 

I would like to know more about regular expressions and how to use them. Could you point me in the right direction?

 

 

This looks like an important skill particularly with the rise of text to speech delivery of eBooks! BorrowBox have just brought out theirs and it uses the regular API voices. For example the word reach is being pronounced as ree, akt to give you an idea of the mispronunciation.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 12:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Fractions

 

Quentin,

        Thanks.  I agree that it's bizarre that Microsoft decided to use the ratio symbol in time.  It actually looks like a colon set slightly lower than center, but it's not something I would ever have thought of, nor thought it was not a colon, until you mentioned this.

         I also confirmed that my regular expression and replacement make NVDA stop saying "ratio" as part of time (at least when I have it written out in a MS-Word document using the ratio symbol as the separator).  But since AM and PM are read as on would expect one can simplify the regular expression to:

([1]*[0-9]+)(.)([0-5]{1}[0-9]{1}) ([a,A,p,P][m,M])

and the replacement expression to:  \1 \3 \4

since there's no need to separate the A or P from the M to get things announced as one would expect.

It's been some years since I had to use regular expressions with any regularity but they're somewhat like riding a bicycle in that once you've done that you can pick it up again pretty much anytime later on.

 
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Re: i've a problem with webvisum

P. Otter
 

hi,
no, i meen the version changed by james scholes.
http://jscholes.net/webvisum-0.9.2-fx.xpi
download this one and remove the version that you get from the add-on page of firefox.
this version works without any problem.
remember first to uninstall the current version and restart firefox!
cheers
paul otter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marco Oros" <marco.oros93@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 12:25 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] i've a problem with webvisum


Yes, but It means, that old version of webvisum doesn't work with current Firefox.
I tried this new version.

Re: The unknown issue with mozilla fire fox and thunderbird

 

hi.
if its a problem in firefox, why that i dont have this problem in
previous versions of nvda?
i use firefox 39 and 40 with nvda 2016.1 with no problem!

On 10/18/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
Yes there was a post by me from Jamie from the dev list that basically said

that there is a problem with firefox, and its not been fixed in the main so

called stable version but has been in the nightly build. It could be that by

removing that folder you have reset the situation, so to speak and it will

nnow work until the same limit or whatever occurs again, but hopefully, by
then the nightly build will have become the stable one and the problem will

go away.
Brian

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From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:26 AM
Subject: [nvda] The unknown issue with mozilla fire fox and thunderbird


Hi guys


A while back i emailed the list about problems that I was having with a
persons computer running windows 10. What it was doing was in mozilla
fire fox you could not use single letter navigation keys, tab or any
thing. You could not even get into the menus up the top when the alt key
was used. It was unusable with mozilla fire fox. NVDA kept on saying
unknown. Browse and focus mode did not work either.

There was some other problems but that saying unknown was the main ones.

Also when you went into mozilla thunderbird, it would open, but when you
went to use the tab key to get to the tree view it would say unknown
etc, You could not even get into your emails and or access the menus up
the top. Also unusable.


The above problem is now fixed.


The steps were.

I thought it was nvda having a corrupted nvda.ini file.

So nvda was reset to factory defaults. That did not fix the problem.
NVDA was completely removed all together and also the references to nvda
under the %appdata% section referring to nvda. This was deleted.NVDA was
then reinstalled and then tested it again. I still had the same problem
with nvda saying unknown both in fire fox and mozilla thunder bird.

Next mozilla fire fox was uninstalled from the pc.

I then went into the %appdata% area and found a folder referring to
mozilla and had a look inside of it..

I ended up deleting the settings file, then decided to delete the folder
for mozilla all together.
i then closed out of it then decided to see if it made any difference in
thunderbird. This time I was able to tab through to where my folders
were in the treeview, go into them read my messages etc.
I can not remember if i had to reboot or to clear the cache.
So the problem is fixed now and then i reinstalled mozilla fire fox and
set it up.

Mozilla fire fox is now working correctly i can use single letter
navigation keys etc even access the menus. What I did when i reinstalled
it was grab the latest version of it as I noticed when the other one was
uninstalled it was version 47.

So both are running correctly i can access the menus in both programs
and use them like normal.

I have seen in the last day or couple of days a similar problem on the
list with nvda saying unknown multiple times in fire fox.

so if you had the same sort of problems as mentioned above with mozilla
fire fox and thunder bird, this is how i fixed it.
Maybe it might help someone else.

Gene nz




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Re: NVDA and Fractions

Peter Beasley
 

What I do is change the case from upper to lower in the replacement field in the dictionary and that sorts it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 10:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Fractions

Which synth. Sappi 5 and 4 tends to use abbreviations expanded that one
cannot seem to alter, though why it should be dependent on what goes before
in such a fashion is very odd indeed.
I know that in a uk post code containing something like 8NY sapi costently
says 5 New York.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <@britechguy>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 6:30 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Fractions


Hello All,

On the JFW group a thread has started entitled, How to insert a 1-digit
fraction into a 2013 word document (
https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/topic/how_to_insert_a_1_digit/2911704?p=,,,100,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,100,2,0,2911704 )

I started playing with NVDA and Window-Eyes to see how they'd handle
three-character fraction designations versus single vulgar fraction
characters for vulgar fractions other than one fourth, one half, and three
quarters. With NVDA I've run into an interesting issue that I cannot seem to
fix in the context of writing something incredibly common: a recipe.
Virtually any recipe you name might contain a fraction of a cup of
something. When I use one slash three for one third, or two slash three for
two thirds, the word cup that follows it is consistently announced as Cuban
Pesos, not cup. This is not true when I use a vulgar fraction character
ahead of the word cup, and NVDA does what I consider the more natural thing
and doesn't announce "vulgar" or "vulgar fraction" followed by one third or
two thirds, but just says the fractional amount and the word cup gets said
as cup.

I have tried tweaking the default and voice dictionaries, but must be doing
something wrong. The pattern I'm using is the word cup, and the replacement
is the word cup, and I make sure that it's set for whole word only. Even
after doing this I still get "Cuban pesos" after the three-character version
of a vulgar fraction. I have exited NVDA and restarted it and it makes no
difference.

I either don't have the format down correctly for what I need to put in for
the dictionary, have the wrong dictionary, or there's some sort of bug here
as I can't imagine "Cuban pesos" to be something you'd want said for "cup"
except in the very rarest of circumstances.

Can anyone help me out here?
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Re: The unknown issue with mozilla fire fox and thunderbird

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Yes there was a post by me from Jamie from the dev list that basically said that there is a problem with firefox, and its not been fixed in the main so called stable version but has been in the nightly build. It could be that by removing that folder you have reset the situation, so to speak and it will nnow work until the same limit or whatever occurs again, but hopefully, by then the nightly build will have become the stable one and the problem will go away.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:26 AM
Subject: [nvda] The unknown issue with mozilla fire fox and thunderbird


Hi guys


A while back i emailed the list about problems that I was having with a
persons computer running windows 10. What it was doing was in mozilla
fire fox you could not use single letter navigation keys, tab or any
thing. You could not even get into the menus up the top when the alt key
was used. It was unusable with mozilla fire fox. NVDA kept on saying
unknown. Browse and focus mode did not work either.

There was some other problems but that saying unknown was the main ones.

Also when you went into mozilla thunderbird, it would open, but when you
went to use the tab key to get to the tree view it would say unknown
etc, You could not even get into your emails and or access the menus up
the top. Also unusable.


The above problem is now fixed.


The steps were.

I thought it was nvda having a corrupted nvda.ini file.

So nvda was reset to factory defaults. That did not fix the problem.
NVDA was completely removed all together and also the references to nvda
under the %appdata% section referring to nvda. This was deleted.NVDA was
then reinstalled and then tested it again. I still had the same problem
with nvda saying unknown both in fire fox and mozilla thunder bird.

Next mozilla fire fox was uninstalled from the pc.

I then went into the %appdata% area and found a folder referring to
mozilla and had a look inside of it..

I ended up deleting the settings file, then decided to delete the folder
for mozilla all together.
i then closed out of it then decided to see if it made any difference in
thunderbird. This time I was able to tab through to where my folders
were in the treeview, go into them read my messages etc.
I can not remember if i had to reboot or to clear the cache.
So the problem is fixed now and then i reinstalled mozilla fire fox and
set it up.

Mozilla fire fox is now working correctly i can use single letter
navigation keys etc even access the menus. What I did when i reinstalled
it was grab the latest version of it as I noticed when the other one was
uninstalled it was version 47.

So both are running correctly i can access the menus in both programs
and use them like normal.

I have seen in the last day or couple of days a similar problem on the
list with nvda saying unknown multiple times in fire fox.

so if you had the same sort of problems as mentioned above with mozilla
fire fox and thunder bird, this is how i fixed it.
Maybe it might help someone else.

Gene nz




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Re: Does updating NVDA preserve setttings?

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Yes indeed, that is why I often create a portable copy including settings in a sub directory on my main machines.
It can be a very good thing to do.. as they say.
Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Does updating NVDA preserve setttings?


I think it happened once before but it is not an every time occurrence. And after the update I was like, hey, wait a minute, what happened to my speech. It was a different synth, different voice, and different speed.

I really need to remember to occasionally back up my settings.

Cindy

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 3:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Does updating NVDA preserve setttings?

Well its supposed to do so. It kept mine, but in the past, just occasionally, it has reverted to something else. When I asked about this nobody could duplicate it, but I fancy its more likely that the original settings file was slightly corrupted in some way and parts of it were not readable at install time and hence the default settings got put in though at least let you hear what was going on. Strangely this seems to affect portable versions more often than installed ones. If you have ever had a faulty install and tried again I know this can leave things a bit strange in the .ini files.
If its a serious problem all the time, it might be worth reporting it.
Brian

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Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 6:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Does updating NVDA preserve setttings?


This last update to 2016.3 did not keep my speech settings and I had to go
in and reset them.



Cindy



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian
Vogel
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 10:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Does updating NVDA preserve setttings?



John,

Someone else who uses a Braille display will have to absolutely
confirm with regard to that. My experience with upgrading NVDA from release
to release using the internal update feature or installing release candidate
software has kept all of my settings preserved as well as all the add-ons
I've installed. This is common practice now and the only deviation I
commonly see from it is the inclusion of a specific question during certain
installs where a question is asked as to whether you'd like to do a clean
install and telling you this resets everything back to "out of the box"
condition. NVDA has never presented me with one of these and has always
carried my settings forward.
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Re: never mind

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Also some laptops with no numeric pads also seem to get issues with multiple key presses. I have aan old Dell like that, and it catches me every time!
Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 4:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] never mind


Ah well, glad you got it sorted out! Yes some laptops do have odd keyboard
layouts, you are definitely right.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Melissa Galbraith <wvflutist@...>
wrote:

Looks like I just forgot to hit the shift. Still this keyboard lay out is
strange.





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Re: NVDA and Fractions

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Which synth. Sappi 5 and 4 tends to use abbreviations expanded that one cannot seem to alter, though why it should be dependent on what goes before in such a fashion is very odd indeed.
I know that in a uk post code containing something like 8NY sapi costently says 5 New York.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <@britechguy>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 6:30 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Fractions


Hello All,

On the JFW group a thread has started entitled, How to insert a 1-digit fraction into a 2013 word document ( https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/topic/how_to_insert_a_1_digit/2911704?p=,,,100,0,0,0::RecentPostDate%2FSticky,,,100,2,0,2911704 )

I started playing with NVDA and Window-Eyes to see how they'd handle three-character fraction designations versus single vulgar fraction characters for vulgar fractions other than one fourth, one half, and three quarters. With NVDA I've run into an interesting issue that I cannot seem to fix in the context of writing something incredibly common: a recipe. Virtually any recipe you name might contain a fraction of a cup of something. When I use one slash three for one third, or two slash three for two thirds, the word cup that follows it is consistently announced as Cuban Pesos, not cup. This is not true when I use a vulgar fraction character ahead of the word cup, and NVDA does what I consider the more natural thing and doesn't announce "vulgar" or "vulgar fraction" followed by one third or two thirds, but just says the fractional amount and the word cup gets said as cup.

I have tried tweaking the default and voice dictionaries, but must be doing something wrong. The pattern I'm using is the word cup, and the replacement is the word cup, and I make sure that it's set for whole word only. Even after doing this I still get "Cuban pesos" after the three-character version of a vulgar fraction. I have exited NVDA and restarted it and it makes no difference.

I either don't have the format down correctly for what I need to put in for the dictionary, have the wrong dictionary, or there's some sort of bug here as I can't imagine "Cuban pesos" to be something you'd want said for "cup" except in the very rarest of circumstances.

Can anyone help me out here?
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Re: orbit20 prototype recording

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Ogg files are just another form of compressed file for audio mainly. Most packs of codecs like k-lite and even winamp seem to be able to play them OK.
Brian

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Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] orbit20 prototype recording


HI Josh:

What is a .ogg file and what software do you need to run it?


On 10/14/16, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:
hello

here is a recording i made of the orbit20 prototype device. let me know
what you all think by emailing joshknnd1982@...


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5454959/2016_10_14-18_00_58.ogg




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Re: The unknown issue with mozilla fire fox and thunderbird

 

hi gene.
thanks so much for your guide.
but i tryed nvda 16.3 with firefox and i could not use single letter
navigations, arrow keys, brows mode and nvda did not say the content
for me.
i uninstalled it completely as well as firefox even from appdata and
my problem is not solved.
i returned to nvda 16.1 and its very great for me.
also in the newer versions, i faced many hangs and crashes!

On 10/18/16, Alexander Masic <list@...> wrote:
I'M quite shure that there is some issues with drivers for that graphic
card. I gues it's an little older computer with graphic drivers wich may
not included in windows. So windows install instead thairs own standard
graphic drivers, and it dont work. Try to find the manicaturers drivers
for that graphic card and install it.
That is the only solotion i have for you.

Den 2016-10-18 kl. 09:26, skrev Gene New Zealand:
Hi guys


A while back i emailed the list about problems that I was having with a
persons computer running windows 10. What it was doing was in mozilla
fire fox you could not use single letter navigation keys, tab or any
thing. You could not even get into the menus up the top when the alt key
was used. It was unusable with mozilla fire fox. NVDA kept on saying
unknown. Browse and focus mode did not work either.

There was some other problems but that saying unknown was the main ones.

Also when you went into mozilla thunderbird, it would open, but when you
went to use the tab key to get to the tree view it would say unknown
etc, You could not even get into your emails and or access the menus up
the top. Also unusable.


The above problem is now fixed.


The steps were.

I thought it was nvda having a corrupted nvda.ini file.

So nvda was reset to factory defaults. That did not fix the problem.
NVDA was completely removed all together and also the references to nvda
under the %appdata% section referring to nvda. This was deleted.NVDA was
then reinstalled and then tested it again. I still had the same problem
with nvda saying unknown both in fire fox and mozilla thunder bird.

Next mozilla fire fox was uninstalled from the pc.

I then went into the %appdata% area and found a folder referring to
mozilla and had a look inside of it..

I ended up deleting the settings file, then decided to delete the folder
for mozilla all together.
i then closed out of it then decided to see if it made any difference in
thunderbird. This time I was able to tab through to where my folders
were in the treeview, go into them read my messages etc.
I can not remember if i had to reboot or to clear the cache.
So the problem is fixed now and then i reinstalled mozilla fire fox and
set it up.

Mozilla fire fox is now working correctly i can use single letter
navigation keys etc even access the menus. What I did when i reinstalled
it was grab the latest version of it as I noticed when the other one was
uninstalled it was version 47.

So both are running correctly i can access the menus in both programs
and use them like normal.

I have seen in the last day or couple of days a similar problem on the
list with nvda saying unknown multiple times in fire fox.

so if you had the same sort of problems as mentioned above with mozilla
fire fox and thunder bird, this is how i fixed it.
Maybe it might help someone else.

Gene nz






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Re: The unknown issue with mozilla fire fox and thunderbird

Alexander Masic
 

I'M quite shure that there is some issues with drivers for that graphic card. I gues it's an little older computer with graphic drivers wich may not included in windows. So windows install instead thairs own standard graphic drivers, and it dont work. Try to find the manicaturers drivers for that graphic card and install it.
That is the only solotion i have for you.

Den 2016-10-18 kl. 09:26, skrev Gene New Zealand:

Hi guys


A while back i emailed the list about problems that I was having with a
persons computer running windows 10. What it was doing was in mozilla
fire fox you could not use single letter navigation keys, tab or any
thing. You could not even get into the menus up the top when the alt key
was used. It was unusable with mozilla fire fox. NVDA kept on saying
unknown. Browse and focus mode did not work either.

There was some other problems but that saying unknown was the main ones.

Also when you went into mozilla thunderbird, it would open, but when you
went to use the tab key to get to the tree view it would say unknown
etc, You could not even get into your emails and or access the menus up
the top. Also unusable.


The above problem is now fixed.


The steps were.

I thought it was nvda having a corrupted nvda.ini file.

So nvda was reset to factory defaults. That did not fix the problem.
NVDA was completely removed all together and also the references to nvda
under the %appdata% section referring to nvda. This was deleted.NVDA was
then reinstalled and then tested it again. I still had the same problem
with nvda saying unknown both in fire fox and mozilla thunder bird.

Next mozilla fire fox was uninstalled from the pc.

I then went into the %appdata% area and found a folder referring to
mozilla and had a look inside of it..

I ended up deleting the settings file, then decided to delete the folder
for mozilla all together.
i then closed out of it then decided to see if it made any difference in
thunderbird. This time I was able to tab through to where my folders
were in the treeview, go into them read my messages etc.
I can not remember if i had to reboot or to clear the cache.
So the problem is fixed now and then i reinstalled mozilla fire fox and
set it up.

Mozilla fire fox is now working correctly i can use single letter
navigation keys etc even access the menus. What I did when i reinstalled
it was grab the latest version of it as I noticed when the other one was
uninstalled it was version 47.

So both are running correctly i can access the menus in both programs
and use them like normal.

I have seen in the last day or couple of days a similar problem on the
list with nvda saying unknown multiple times in fire fox.

so if you had the same sort of problems as mentioned above with mozilla
fire fox and thunder bird, this is how i fixed it.
Maybe it might help someone else.

Gene nz



Re: Remote Access Download

Chris Mullins
 

Hi
There are problems with using remote on the secure desktop . If the remote machine is unattended, you would have to configure it to autolog into the remote server and this process is unpredictable at best and in most cases doesn't work at all. If you are working in a support capacity and the remote machine is attended, get the remote user to fill in the 'Connect' dialog on the remote access menu and you enter the corresponding host and key information to establish a connection.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
Sent: 17 October 2016 21:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote Access Download

Thanks so much, so I can put in the name of a remote machine on our network and connect to that?
Does it read the logon screen or any errors if the password is incorrect etc?


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 2:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote Access Download

yes, it is very easy.
goto http://www.nvdaremote.com
there you can download it if you enter on it, choose open then it will be opened by nvda.
nvda asks you if you want to install this add-on.
press on yes then it will install it.
after that you have to restart nvda then all is done.
after this, you can open it, you can find it under extra.
press connect there you find client, keep that setting.
under it you can tell if you wish to controll another machine or this machine will be controlled by another machine.
then address, there you can fill in, nvdaremote.com.
the password you choose has to be the same as on the other machine.
now you can connect and all is done.
it works great!!!!!
cheers
paul otter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)" <steven.hicks@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 2:33 PM
Subject: [nvda] Remote Access Download


Hi friends,

Can anyone point me in the right direction for infomratio/downloads on
how to do this with NVDA?



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