On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 07:58 PM, Gene wrote: I'm not talking about training and retraining and retraining. I'm talking about proper training in the first place.And part of that proper training is

Hi Group, What you do is to get a demo of JAWS and any other paid commercial software and use it in cases where NVDA doesn't work. Also, if you are using Windows 10 (and

Hi Group, Well as long as this thread has drifted so far off the original topic of my submit button, I thought I would keep pushing it further <laugh>. Here is

I'm not talking about training and retraining and retraining. I'm talking about proper training in the first place. Gene

You are generalizing from a few specifics, not proper logic. I didn't say all sites are accessible. Neither did I say that sites don't change. My point is that proper training would allow blind

Hi, Sean, When I got my very first computer, it had a demo version of Window-eyes. It had windows 98 as its operating system. I took a computer class at the Braille Institute ad they taught Jaws. I

 She's right! You're talking about training and retraining and retraining. Some of us have lives to live. Andy

I didn't say anything about what screen-reader people should use. Everything I say applies as much to NVDA as to any other good screen-reader. its training that is the problem. How to accomplish

Hi, Gene, With all due respect, sites do constantly change unless they're like the blind mice megamall site. I i'm sorry but I totally agree with Glen's message. All the training in the world

The level of training would be available if proper training were done by those who do it in the first place. What used to be Freedom Scientific and now has a name that evokes a bird offers a lot of

I didn't say that no one would ever have problems figuring out changes. But if people apply what I taught in my Internet tutorial, they would have looked at the page, starting at the top when they

Good Afternoon Joseph and group: Has anyone else had problems installing add on scripts/programs. I had to uninstall all my add on's to NVDA. I thought just by chance I could reinstore,

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 02:35 PM, Ervin, Glenn wrote: The level of training you are referring to is either unaffordable on their limited income, or beyond their interest level. Remember, even the

Gene how do you suggest that blind people obtain more than screen reader? Nvda is free and you can't make payments on the comercial screenreaders. Are you willing to start a fund for the

To be honest on training, I learned to use ms office xp, windows 95 and jaws 6. None of that matters anymore. I don't use jaws, I don't use such an outdated crappy office and windows combo

To be honest all businesses use windows, windows is what everyone uses. I have a lot of stuff on windows. I don't think windows will ever end or rather not end like that ms are pushing for a unified

The point of using a computer is changing though. I like my ai I like my control But I have friends in the now generation, they want their system to work. If it breaks they run the recovery disk

Who knows. People like simpler things, as long as it works its fine. I don't care for the skills we have lost though and how rigid our os in some cases has become. Sure if it works, fine but if it

I agree, my grandpa later in life started with win98, and later xp. Even though the system got secured eventually by me, he never learned to type fast, and always clicked on things meaning I had to

Probably an echo or something from an old amiga.