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Re: Forcing NVDA Find versus Browser Find

Gene
 

I don’t know where you are when you use the command.  Is this another example of why I say that automatic sswoitching between browse mode on and off should be done manually, not automatically, which is the default?  If you are somewhere where browse mode is automatically turned off, what you describe will happen.
 
Gene

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Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 6:40 PM
Subject: [nvda] Forcing NVDA Find versus Browser Find
 
I'm now frustrated enough to ask this question.

It had always been my belief that hitting NVDA+CTRL+F would force the NVDA Find dialog to come up and be used to search a webpage.  I often want to be able to do this when searching for controls that don't necessarily show up with a straight browser find.

In trying to work on Maria's issue, I tried several times to get the NVDA find to come up to find the Language Selector button, but it wouldn't.  I'd hit NVDA+CTRL+F and still get the Brave browser find.  This has happened plenty in Chrome and Edge Dev, too, so I know it's not "just a Brave thing."

What am I missing?  There are times I absolutely want to force an NVDA Find, and it seems that sometimes I cannot do that.
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Re: Forcing NVDA Find versus Browser Find

Joseph Lee
 

Hi,

NVDA’s find command can be used in browse mode only, as pressing Control+NVDA+F in focus mode will invoke browser’s own find interface, as it is actually Control+F that will be received by the browser.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 4:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Forcing NVDA Find versus Browser Find

 

I'm now frustrated enough to ask this question.

It had always been my belief that hitting NVDA+CTRL+F would force the NVDA Find dialog to come up and be used to search a webpage.  I often want to be able to do this when searching for controls that don't necessarily show up with a straight browser find.

In trying to work on Maria's issue, I tried several times to get the NVDA find to come up to find the Language Selector button, but it wouldn't.  I'd hit NVDA+CTRL+F and still get the Brave browser find.  This has happened plenty in Chrome and Edge Dev, too, so I know it's not "just a Brave thing."

What am I missing?  There are times I absolutely want to force an NVDA Find, and it seems that sometimes I cannot do that.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 
Re: Can a developer test this for me?

Brian Vogel
 

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 07:36 PM, Jackie wrote:
Me slow!
Now, now Jackie.  Just because we're all thinking it already doesn't mean you have to say it!  ;-)
 
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Re: Questions

Gene
 

You can create a portable copy and move it or copy it wherever you want.  Portable programs aren’t installed so the answer to the question is that you can have as many portable copies on a machine as you want and they can be any compatible versions.  There is no limit to the current or older versions you can have on the machine if they are portable and compatible with the version of Windows running.  But you can only have one installed copy of NVDA on a machine at a time.
 
Gene

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Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions
 
 
 
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 7:03 PM Emmanuel Junaid <emmanueljunaidh@...> wrote:

Please help on the following:
1 can I instal two versions of NVDA on one computer.
2 does the NVDA remote add-on work on the latest stable version of nvda?

For question 1, yes, and no. You can create a portable copy of NVDA to run on a flash drive or other external device. Though with the way it's set up I don't see why you couldn't create another copy elsewhere.
As for NVDA remote and NVDA 2019.3, I believe they are compatible, yes.
Hope this helps.
Forcing NVDA Find versus Browser Find

Brian Vogel
 

I'm now frustrated enough to ask this question.

It had always been my belief that hitting NVDA+CTRL+F would force the NVDA Find dialog to come up and be used to search a webpage.  I often want to be able to do this when searching for controls that don't necessarily show up with a straight browser find.

In trying to work on Maria's issue, I tried several times to get the NVDA find to come up to find the Language Selector button, but it wouldn't.  I'd hit NVDA+CTRL+F and still get the Brave browser find.  This has happened plenty in Chrome and Edge Dev, too, so I know it's not "just a Brave thing."

What am I missing?  There are times I absolutely want to force an NVDA Find, and it seems that sometimes I cannot do that.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 
Re: Can a developer test this for me?

Jackie
 

Wow, amazing! By time I'd finished writing my reply, you'd gotten 3
already! Me slow!

On 4/20/20, Jackie McBride <abletec@...> wrote:
Maria, I'm not a developer, but here are some things to check.
1) Go to control panel > region and language settings & ensure that
English United States is set.
2) Next, press the nvda menu key combination, go to preferences >
settings & thence to the speech tab. I uncheck the following items:
automatic language switching when supported
automatic dialect switching when supported
trust voice's language when processing characters& symbols.

Jaws also has similar settings where language options can be disabled.
I'm curious what synthesizer you're using?

On 4/20/20, Maria S <raynbo15@...> wrote:
Hello. I am trying to apply to a job at www.manpower.com

However, when I click the Create Account link, NVDA begins speaking
English in another language. This happens in Firefox, Edge, and
Chrome. Jaws also does this.

Using version 2019.3.1 on Windows 10. All browsers are up to date as
far as I know.

Thanks for any assistance, Maria Smith




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Re: Can a developer test this for me?

Jackie
 

Maria, I'm not a developer, but here are some things to check.
1) Go to control panel > region and language settings & ensure that
English United States is set.
2) Next, press the nvda menu key combination, go to preferences >
settings & thence to the speech tab. I uncheck the following items:
automatic language switching when supported
automatic dialect switching when supported
trust voice's language when processing characters& symbols.

Jaws also has similar settings where language options can be disabled.
I'm curious what synthesizer you're using?

On 4/20/20, Maria S <raynbo15@...> wrote:
Hello. I am trying to apply to a job at www.manpower.com

However, when I click the Create Account link, NVDA begins speaking
English in another language. This happens in Firefox, Edge, and
Chrome. Jaws also does this.

Using version 2019.3.1 on Windows 10. All browsers are up to date as
far as I know.

Thanks for any assistance, Maria Smith



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Re: Can a developer test this for me?

Brian Vogel
 

Maria,

       There is a dropdown on that page that allows you to select English or Spanish, and I have the suspicion that if you don't do so you end up somehow "stumbling into" the Spanish language side of the site (which is still based in the USA).

        When I select US along with the English radio button, it takes me here:  https://www.manpower.com/ManpowerUSA/home/!ut/p/z1/04_Sj9CPykssy0xPLMnMz0vMAfIjo8ziTfw9zDw9nA18LFyDjAwczTwDjYw9jIydPY31w_Wj9KOASgxwAEcD_eDUvPjQYP2C7LxyABr7J-Y!/dz/d5/L0lHSkovd0RNQUZrQUVnQSEhLzROVkUvZW4!/

If that direct link doesn't work for you, search for the Language Selector Menu Button and activate it.  This is where the country dropdown and language radio buttons are revealed.

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Re: Can a developer test this for me?

Rui Fontes
 

Uncheck the Change language or switch language in NVDA configurations, voice...


Rui Fontes


Às 00:20 de 21/04/2020, Maria S escreveu:

Hello. I am trying to apply to a job at www.manpower.com

However, when I click the Create Account link, NVDA begins speaking
English in another language. This happens in Firefox, Edge, and
Chrome. Jaws also does this.

Using version 2019.3.1 on Windows 10. All browsers are up to date as
far as I know.

Thanks for any assistance, Maria Smith
Re: Can a developer test this for me?

Joseph Lee
 

Hi,
I cannot reproduce this. Try seeing if "Automatic language switching (when supported)" setting is on (found in NVDA settings/voice category), and if yes, try after turning it off.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Maria S
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 4:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Can a developer test this for me?

Hello. I am trying to apply to a job at www.manpower.com

However, when I click the Create Account link, NVDA begins speaking English in another language. This happens in Firefox, Edge, and Chrome. Jaws also does this.

Using version 2019.3.1 on Windows 10. All browsers are up to date as far as I know.

Thanks for any assistance, Maria Smith
Re: Questions

Brian Vogel
 

You can't run two *installed* versions on the same machine, but you can run one installed version and as many portable versions as you like, or you can run everything portable (but I wouldn't).

You can use NVDA Remote with 2019.3, but you have to get the compatible version of the download, see the NVDA Remote Access Download Page.
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

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Re: Questions

Emmanuel Junaid
 

Please give me the link for the latest remote addone.


On Tue, Apr 21, 2020, 12:05 AM Jesse Farquharson <jesse100rules@...> wrote:


On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 7:03 PM Emmanuel Junaid <emmanueljunaidh@...> wrote:

Please help on the following:
1 can I instal two versions of NVDA on one computer.
2 does the NVDA remote add-on work on the latest stable version of nvda?

For question 1, yes, and no. You can create a portable copy of NVDA to run on a flash drive or other external device. Though with the way it's set up I don't see why you couldn't create another copy elsewhere.
As for NVDA remote and NVDA 2019.3, I believe they are compatible, yes.
Hope this helps.
Can a developer test this for me?

Maria S
 

Hello. I am trying to apply to a job at www.manpower.com

However, when I click the Create Account link, NVDA begins speaking
English in another language. This happens in Firefox, Edge, and
Chrome. Jaws also does this.

Using version 2019.3.1 on Windows 10. All browsers are up to date as
far as I know.

Thanks for any assistance, Maria Smith
Re: Questions

Jesse Farquharson
 



On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 7:03 PM Emmanuel Junaid <emmanueljunaidh@...> wrote:

Please help on the following:
1 can I instal two versions of NVDA on one computer.
2 does the NVDA remote add-on work on the latest stable version of nvda?

For question 1, yes, and no. You can create a portable copy of NVDA to run on a flash drive or other external device. Though with the way it's set up I don't see why you couldn't create another copy elsewhere.
As for NVDA remote and NVDA 2019.3, I believe they are compatible, yes.
Hope this helps.
Questions

Emmanuel Junaid
 

Please help on the following:
1 can I instal two versions of NVDA on one computer.
2 does the NVDA remote add-on work on the latest stable version of nvda?
Re: Offline dictionary

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I was using the one from the Microsoft store. this is a whole lot better. thanks.
******
If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!

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Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 5:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Offline dictionary

    Wordweb 9 - current free version seems usable with NvDA/simple enough:

https://wordweb.info/free/


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On 2020-04-20 01:25 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
It is still available but a little tedious to me. I had to hunt to find the edit field to type the word I was looking for. I was hoping that definitions would have been in paragraph style rather than a table with every word a link.
******
If we don't take time to think before we speak we may find ourselves in a situation where our speech becomes a bit stinky!
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Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 5:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Offline dictionary

I used to use WordWeb, and had no problems with it and NVDA.

This was several years ago, though, so I'm not sure how accessible it is (or even if it's still available) these days.


Regards,
Sascha

On 20/04/2020 19:46, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
Has anyone found a dictionary that works well with NVDA?
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Re: vocaliser voices

Laughing Thunder
 

Download the ad on at https://www.dropbox.com/s/n4v7ccujysf8rje/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.1.nvda-addon?dl=1



On Apr 19, 2020, at 6:19 AM, The Gamages via groups.io <james.gamage@...> wrote:


Hello,
 
Sorry if this has been covered before, but I have just tried to update NVDA and been told that the driver for my vocaliser voices is out of date and the add on cannot be installed.
does this mean that I will have to pay again for new voices?
If this is the case, I believe that the voices can be obtained for use with any screen reader, is that correct.
 
Thanks for any clarification.
Best Regards, Jim.

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Re: Welcome to the NVDA Community Add-ons website - Kill NVDA #nvdaaddonsfeed

Sarah k Alawami
 

I've actually had that fail as I don't use that shortcut, and I don't have a shortcut on my desktop. I just hit windows r, type nvda hit enter and it should start up, but I have also had that barf.

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On 20 Apr 2020, at 13:38, Robert Kingett wrote:

Glad to see the integration works. I admit, if NVDA crashes, though, couldn't you just hit CTRL, ALT, N?
Re: Welcome to the NVDA Community Add-ons website - Kill NVDA #nvdaaddonsfeed

Robert Kingett
 

Glad to see the integration works. I admit, if NVDA crashes, though, couldn't you just hit CTRL, ALT, N?
Re: updating NVDA alpha

Aine Kelly Costello
 

I have got this error consistently for some months now. It works correctly if I download the update straight after restarting, otherwise not. It's irritating but I didn't report it as I couldn't find a pattern for how to reproduce.

Cheers,

Áine
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