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nvda and ham calls
Hello to all. For those that don't know, I'm an amateur radio operator, and in a week I'm due to run a net. Fine, except I struggle with reading ham calls. I know on the BNS there was a ham calls option where it would read those such as ke7zum. Is there such a thing for nvda? Or can an option be thought of, an add on that could be turned on and off at will to allow for such? I know this won't happen by the 27th when I'm due to control, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like this. I'm using the ibm tts voices but espeak and david does this as well. I can't code or I would find a way to do this myself. The thing that makes this harder is not all call signs are 2 by 3 like mine. Some are a 1 by 1, or a 1 by 2. I've even seen some 2 by 2 calls. Thanks all. -- Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. Check out my adventures with a shadow machine. to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there. For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
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Re: web sites detecting a screen reader
Luke Robinett <blindgroupsluke@...>
As a blind person, NVDA user and web developer myself, I don’t recommend telling the screen reader to ignore the SR flag. It sounds like there are a few misguided websites out there who are implementing heavy-handed screen reader experiences on their pages, but you know when you hear those options at the top of a page to jump to navigation, jump to main content, etc.? Those options don’t appear for sighted users. Behind the scenes, we use CSS media queries to expose those options only when a screen reader is detected, and I think we all agree those features are generally helpful. A similar technique is used when a graphical icon is depicted visually but it’s actual purpose ”menu,” ”settings,” ”submit,” etc. is spoken aloud to screen reader users. In short, you might find websites become far less accessible if you tell them to ignore the presence of a screen reader.
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On Oct 21, 2020, at 6:09 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
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Re: web sites detecting a screen reader
Luke Robinett <blindgroupsluke@...>
Gene, you can tell NVDA not to announce dynamic content. This is probably the setting you had in mind. Perhaps you could create a separate configuration profile with that setting disabled and then switch to it only when you encounter those problematic websites?
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On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:20 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
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Re: well, I guess I shouldn't have expected much
Tyler Wood
I beg to differ on all counts. When an email client takes well over 700 MB of ram, stops responding while browsing messages, takes 20 or more seconds to browse folders, I have a hard time using it or being productive. This is on a machine with an SSD, Ryzen 7 processor and plenty of ram to use, that being said. Maybe things have changed lately – I’m more than willing to give thunderbird another go – but outlook has come leaps and bounds even over the last year, too, with both Jaws and NVDA.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 12:14 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] well, I guess I shouldn't have expected much
Funny, outlook is the example I give when someone asks me about sluggish software. Outlook paired with a certain other program named after a movie shark is even more so!
On 2020-10-22 1:00 p.m., Tyler Wood wrote:
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Funny, outlook is the example I give when someone asks me about sluggish software. Outlook paired with a certain other program named after a movie shark is even more so!
On 2020-10-22 1:00 p.m., Tyler Wood
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Re: NVDA misbehaving after a Windows Update and NVDA Update
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 06:33 AM, r pardhasaradhi reddy wrote:
I update windows to 2018 to 2020.- Can you please hit the Windows key, immediately type winver, hit enter, then report back the exact Windows 10 Version and Build number on your machine? You can also hit WinKey+R, enter winver in the edit box, then hit Enter if you prefer. There was no Windows 10 2018 nor is there a Windows 10 2020. Since there are two Feature Updates per calendar year, it's really essential that we know precisely which version of Windows 10 you're running. Then we can move on from there. It would also be helpful for you to hit NVDA+H,A and make certain that the NVDA version itself is 2020.3 and report back whether it is or is not, and if it is not, give the version number. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white. ~ Kelley Boorn
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Re: well, I guess I shouldn't have expected much
Tyler Wood
Thunderbird is amazingly sluggish for me and takes up well over 700 MB of ram. How is this okay (not aimed at anyone here). Maybe it was my configuration. I’ve been using Microsoft outlook which, surprisingly, works very well. Windows mail worked fantastic too though from what I remember it did not close threaded messages correctly and kept them all expanded. I’m not sure if that has been fixed.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 11:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] well, I guess I shouldn't have expected much
I actually agree. Its got its own niggles but its still good enough. And with waterfox, I just tried a full run. While there are sites which will generate freezes, its only 1 or 2 and I can get round them. Quite impressed with it, seems to be mostly working and thats good.
On 23/10/2020 2:40 am, Chris Smart wrote:
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I actually agree. Its got its own niggles but its still good enough. And with waterfox, I just tried a full run. While there are sites which will generate freezes, its only 1 or 2 and I can get round them. Quite impressed with it, seems to be mostly working and thats good.
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Re: NVDA misbehaving after a Windows Update and NVDA Update
Well, make sure all addons are updated and make sure nvda itself is updated. You probably havn't updated win10 apps in a while, make sure that and nvda is updated and make sure you have the addon updater installed.
On 22/10/2020 9:22 pm, r pardhasaradhi
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Re: well, I guess I shouldn't have expected much
I'll allow the original poster to answer Gene's query, but if we're going to get into deep discussion of email client options that should go to the Chat Subgroup.
When I posted my Mail App message I was under the mistaken impression that I wasn't looking at the NVDA group at the moment. I've been jumping around groups quite a bit this morning. So my offering was as off-topic as they come, too. But if a lengthy conversation about currently accessible email client options is to take place, I kindly ask that it occur either on the Chat Subgroup or elsewhere. Chat Subgroup information below. ---------------------------------- NVDA Chat Subgroup Addresses
The Chat Subgroup exists for non-NVDA-specific conversations regarding any topic by members of the NVDA Group community who wish to indulge in same. Most topics tend to be technical questions about specific programs and how to use them, but there are social topics as well. You must be registered as a member of the NVDA Main Group before you can join the Chat Subgroup. Membership in the Chat Subgroup is entirely optional.
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Re: well, I guess I shouldn't have expected much
Gene
Why do you not want to use Thunderbird?
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From: John Sanfilippo Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 8:06 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] well, I guess I shouldn't have expected much Hi, which PC app do you like for mail. I'm watching out for something to replace Thunderbird. Thanks. John Sanfilippo
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The problem with the Windows 10 Mail App is that it is the barest of bare bones email clients. If you are used to Outlook, or Thunderbird, or any other truly feature rich email client, and actually use a number of "the usual features," the Mail App can be very frustrating very quickly.
That's the primary reason I don't recommend it, because it's capabilities are too restricted for many users. I should start keeping a list of the routine complaints that have been brought up regarding the Mail App so that I can give actual examples when it comes up. There's nothing wrong with using it if you go into it with your expectations correctly set. But it's been my experience and observation that most people think they're getting a fairly full-featured email client when they are getting anything but. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041 It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white. ~ Kelley Boorn
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Re: well, I guess I shouldn't have expected much
Rosemarie Chavarria
I'm not having any problems with thunderbird. I guess you could
try
the mail app. On 10/22/2020 6:06 AM, John Sanfilippo
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Hi, which PC app do you like for mail. I'm watching out for something to replace Thunderbird. Thanks.
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Re: Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
Sylvie Duchateau
Hello Howard and all,
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As Louis wrote, this checkbox is in the Excel advanced options. If you uncheck it, you can read Excel cells content in Braille when editing it with f2. I contacted the Microsoft Disability Help Desk and told them about the problem. They told me they would investigate. I had a look on an older PC with NVDA 2020.3 and Excel 2013. The Checkbox exists also and I did not identify the braille problem. So I suppose it is related to Office 365 and NVDA. Best Sylvie
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De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Howard Traxler via groups.io Envoyé : jeudi 22 octobre 2020 16:29 À : nvda@nvda.groups.io Objet : Re: [nvda] Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365 Someone please tell me about this checkbox. To whom does it belong (JAWS, NVDA, windows, etc.) and where is it found? I'd like to take a look. Howard On 10/22/2020 5:42 AM, Louis Maher wrote:
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Re: Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
Howard Traxler
Someone please tell me about this checkbox. To whom does it belong (JAWS, NVDA, windows, etc.) and where is it found? I'd like to take a look.
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On 10/22/2020 5:42 AM, Louis Maher wrote:
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Re: lion OCR addon
Josh Kennedy
and where do I get the beta from so it works with NVDA 2020.3?
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Re: lion OCR addon
Josh Kennedy
the lion addon OCR's the screen or a specified portion of the screen over and over again at a specified interval until you tell it to stop or turn it off. This lets you define a portion of the screen, to for example let NVDA read subtitles for you when you are watching Japanese anime shows and movies with English subtitles. It may also give access to games by reading in-game text that is not accessible with NVDA. You can also tell the addon to only read something when the resulting OCR text has changed.
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Re: well, I guess I shouldn't have expected much
Thunderbird is great and responds really really quickly! and
that's coming from someone who stubbornly stuck to using eudora,
even into Windows 10. Yes, I used Eudora for probably twenty years. LOL Just curious, what annoys you about
Thunderbird? It is highly customizable, so maybe you just need to
tweak some things.
On 2020-10-22 9:06 a.m., John
Sanfilippo wrote:
Hi, which PC app do you like for mail. I'm watching out for something to replace Thunderbird. Thanks.
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Re: well, I guess I shouldn't have expected much
John Sanfilippo
Hi, which PC app do you like for mail. I'm watching out for something to replace Thunderbird. Thanks.
John Sanfilippo
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Re: Accessing cell content in Braille in Excel for Office 365
Sylvie Duchateau
Louis and others, The question is : is this a Microsoft or NVDA issue? I did not want to mention the screen reader’s name here, but as you did, I don’t encounter the problem with JAWS when the checkbox is enabled. Best Sylvie De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Louis Maher via groups.io
Folks,
Unchecking this box effects JAWS as well.
When the NVDA, or Microsoft, error is corrected, you can check this box, and your Excel editing will go faster.
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Sylvie Duchateau
Hello Louis and all, Thank you for this tip, it works! Does anyone know what this checkbox is for? Why checking this box prevents NVDA from using braille in cells but not other screEn readers? Best Sylvie De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
De la part de Louis Maher via groups.io
Hello,
This problem comes up periodically. You can try unchecking the box which says “allow editing directly in cells”. In Excel 365, do this:
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nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Sylvie Duchateau
Hello, This is the same here. It seems to work better with other screen readers. May be I should test with former NVDA version to see when this bug has started. Best Sylvie
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De la part de Aine Kelly Costello via groups.io
In Excel with pressing f2, I can view cell contents in Braille but not use cursor to edit. I can use the Braille keyboard to edit but the Braille doesn't update until I get out of that edit field
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