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Re: Custom Hot Key Disappears On NVDA Update

Richard Wells
 

Joseph: running %programfiles%\nvda\nvda.exe -r results in the following
error: Windows cannot find 'C:\Program'. Make sure you typed the name
correctly, and then try
again.

On 5/1/2019 10:17 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
I advise not using that link - I advise using:
%programfiles%\nvda\nvda.exe -r

If that is even possible (I'm sure it is, but need to double-check).
You can of course reassign shortcut keys.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Wells
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 8:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Custom Hot Key Disappears On NVDA Update

My hot key disappears each time I update NVDA. The reason for this
is, I don't use the desktop shortcut and I also use a different hot
key than the default. I prefer to assign the hot key ALT+CONTROL+V
and I use the LNK found at C:\programdata\Microsoft\Windows\Start
Menu\Programs\NVDA to do this. It would be nice if the NVDA
install/update was smart enough to honor custom configurations like
mine.






Re: NVDA and Combo Boxes, Agreements?

Gene
 

In browse mode settings, turn off use screen layout if supported.  That will cause you to see every individual control and link on its own line.  You are probably seeing a group of combo boxes together because use screen layout is on.  To turn it off, uncheck it with the space bar, activate the ok button and, if you don't have NVDA set to save settings on exit, save the new setting permanently with control NVDA key c.  To get into browse mode, you can use the command control NVDA key b.
 
This is one more example of why use screen layout should be off by default.  Who knows how many people have problems because they don't know about the command and having it off is better in many instances.
 
It may be desirable to have it on in certain instances such as on forum discussion pages but most of the time, it is better to have it off.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 9:00 AM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Combo Boxes, Agreements?

Hello NVDA group,

If someone is familiar with registering as an author with Barnes and
Noble Press, this is what this email post is generated from.

When combo boxes are present, and the order of states in the US for
example, is read as a group on one line, how do I go about separating
them out to indicate my state of residence?

When reading an agreement with NVDA, how does one accept or reject if
the choices are not heard at the outset, during, or end of the
agreement text?
Thanks in advance.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...



Re: Custom Hot Key Disappears On NVDA Update

 

Hi,
Quentin, can we find out if this is something posted on GitHub? I'm thinking we may need to detect custom hot key assignments as part of the update process.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 8:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Custom Hot Key Disappears On NVDA Update

Joseph: You can reassign shortcuts, but you lose them each time NVDA updates.

On 5/1/2019 10:17 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
I advise not using that link - I advise using:
%programfiles%\nvda\nvda.exe -r

If that is even possible (I'm sure it is, but need to double-check).
You can of course reassign shortcut keys.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard
Wells
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 8:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Custom Hot Key Disappears On NVDA Update

My hot key disappears each time I update NVDA. The reason for this is, I don't use the desktop shortcut and I also use a different hot key than the default. I prefer to assign the hot key ALT+CONTROL+V and I use the LNK found at C:\programdata\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\NVDA to do this. It would be nice if the NVDA install/update was smart enough to honor custom configurations like mine.







Re: Python ide

 


Hi
I use Visual studio code. Take a look at https://code.visualstudio.com/
May be, discuss about Python is not allowed here. I suggest you join the Python vis mailling list, a blind community of learnign Python. Take a look at https://www.freelists.org/webpage/pythonvis
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 7:04 PM
Subject: [nvda] Python ide

Which python ide is most accessible and how to setup it?


Re: Custom Hot Key Disappears On NVDA Update

Richard Wells
 

Joseph: You can reassign shortcuts, but you lose them each time NVDA
updates.

On 5/1/2019 10:17 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
I advise not using that link - I advise using:
%programfiles%\nvda\nvda.exe -r

If that is even possible (I'm sure it is, but need to double-check).
You can of course reassign shortcut keys.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 8:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Custom Hot Key Disappears On NVDA Update

My hot key disappears each time I update NVDA. The reason for this is, I don't use the desktop shortcut and I also use a different hot key than the default. I prefer to assign the hot key ALT+CONTROL+V and I use the LNK found at C:\programdata\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\NVDA to do this. It would be nice if the NVDA install/update was smart enough to honor custom configurations like mine.






Re: blank lines in outlook 2016

Gene
 

First, it is important to use correct commands to do tasks.  Other commands may work at times but they may lead to unwanted behaviors.  One example is escape.  It is not a documented stop speech or stop read to end command.  If you use it in those ways, you may have behaviors you don't want.  You may close a dialog or something else.  If I have an opened e-mail message and I use it, the message closes.  The result is that I have to reopen the message again and I have completely lost my place.  Control is the stop speech command.  While any key will stop speech, the key will take whatever action it normally takes as well.  Stopping speech when any key is pressed is done so that old speech won't continue when you take a new action.  Control is the documented stop speech command in all screen-readers I am familiar with because control, when pressed by itself, takes no actions other than to stop speech.  it stops speech just as pressing any key does so it isn't taking that action as a control key function.  NVDA is stopping speech because a key is pressed. 
 
It is very easy to find a link if you stop speech near it.  Use the command k to move you to the next link or shift k to move you to the previous link.  If you have read the link and are passed it, shift k will take you back to it with one issuance of the command because it is the previous link. 
 
I am assuming you are reading mail as html.  If you aren't, that command won't work. 
 
You can also tab or shift tab to move to the next and previous link respectively.  However, in my e-mail program, that often takes you to a link far away from the one you want because of an alignment problem in browse mode when using the e-mail program I use.  K and shift k doesn't have that problewm.  You can experiment and see what happens in your e-mail program if you wish.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016

When you use read to end – then want to get a link to click on – how do you find the link – highlight it and then click on it.

You press esc or another key to stop the read to end – then you need to arrow around to find the link to click on. I just get blank over and over. Any other suggestions?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 7:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016

 

Why are you down arrowing through the message?  Do you have to do so for some reason?  If you use read to end, no blank lines will be spoken.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Sam Bushman

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 7:26 AM

Subject: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016

 

Hi All,

 

I have two main problems with outlook 2016 – the 32bit version that you can download and install from office 365.

 

  1. I get blank line over and over when arrowing through messages. Is there a way to ignore / compress more than one blank line in a row?
  2. Often the outlook crashes and restarts. This only happens with NVDA. I have briefed several on this list before and have sent in logs etc. Does this crashing on certain messages happen to anyone else? If I view the message by either looking at it from a forward or a reply it doesn’t crash.

Thanks so much for any input.

Sam

 


Re: question from a new NVDA user

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hello,
Press nvda-control-s, tab once and choose your soundcard where you want the output going to.

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Troy Burnham
Sent: Mittwoch, 1. Mai 2019 16:12
To: NVDA <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] question from a new NVDA user

Hi all,


I've had NVDA installed for a while now but I'm just getting around to possibly starting to use it.


I've been using jaws for years and when it speaks it comes through my
external speakers that are plugged into my laptop via the USB port
because the earphone jack doesn't work, but I started NVDA yesterday and
the voice was coming through the laptop's internal speaker, and it was
very low as well. How do I fix this so it comes through my external
speakers as well?


Btw strangely enough, I opened the NVDA preferences and changed the
Eloquence voice I was using and it immediately got louder although it
was still coming through the laptop and not the external speakers. Also,
after making changes in preferences I hit the okay button but it didn't
take me out of preferences. I got out of preferences by hitting alt-f4
but when I did that the volume of the voice went back down again.


One more thing, when I started NVDA yesterday the volume was so low that
I couldn't really hear it but it sounded like it was offering me an NVDA
update. I have no idea if it was installed though because since I
couldn't really hear what it was saying I couldn't really tell what
option I chose when it offered me the update.


Any help with any of this will be greatly appreciated.


Troy


Re: Reaching the comments' section on YouTube video

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yep, same here. And I believe the same thing happens under chrome. I never watch youtube videos in chrome and rarely do I do so on my windows pc. What i have done on the mac side of things is do a seatch for the word "comment" after pausing the video with k. Then I just figure out what is what but it is even worse under the mac with chrome. Go figure.

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On 30 Apr 2019, at 22:13, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

Gene NZ,
Using browse mode, pressing F/shift+F (or E/shift+E), all I can get is the search field for searching a video.
No comments section at all.

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Em 30/04/2019 16:56, hurrikennyandopo ... disse:

Hi


Does the E key or F key not get you to that area. I tried it with the browse mode keys and it took me there.


I am wondering when you do get to that field and it says public comment or what ever it said are you changing into focus mode just in case it is not going into the mode correctly. I guess also it depends how you have it set as well.


Gene nz


On 1/05/2019 6:21 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi

I answered a similar request some weeks ago when I recommended a site designed for blind users which gives an ad free interface to search for and play YouTube videos.?? The link is:

??

http://www.povidi.com/YourTube/

??

After opening the site, use the e key to jump to the search edit box, then ??hit the spacebar to move into focus mode (unless you have auto mode switching set in NVDA).?? Type in your search criteria, then pres tab to move to a combo box where you set the number of results per page.?? Set this to 10, 20 or 50, then press tab again.?? You landin another combo box where you can choose between videos, channels or playlists (I only ever use videos which is the default).?? Tab again to the search button and press spacebar to run the search.

??

The results appear in a numbered list which you can access using the h key.?? Press this repeatedly and when you find one you want to play, press tab to move focus to it and press enter.?? A dialog box opens for the chosen video.?? Again use the h key to jup to the different sections, which include player controls, pla details, video information and video comments. You can use the b key to jump to the various player control buttons.

??

After video has played, use alt+left arrow to return to the results list dialog at the point where you left it.

??

Cheers

Chris ??

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: 30 April 2019 14:46
To: NVDA List
Subject: [nvda] Reaching the comments' section on YouTube video

??

Hi guys,
Quite a while ago I posted here about the very same subject and at that time there was a workaround that really worked like a charm.
Trouble is, it doesn't seem to work anymore.

So, would any of you happen to know of a way to get to the comments' section on a YouTube video in a reliable manner?
Lately, for me, it's been a hit and miss. And honestly, let me tell you, it has been more of a miss than a hit. Really not fun to waste so much time with something that should be easy peasy, as I like to say.

I'm sending this one to the NVDA add-ons list as well, in case someone thinks it'd be a good idea to make an add-on to work with it and give it a solution once and for all.
Were I happen to have enough skills with it I could, should and would very well start such a project.

Cheers,
Marcio.

AKA Starboy

??

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Re: Custom Hot Key Disappears On NVDA Update

 

Hi,
I advise not using that link - I advise using:
%programfiles%\nvda\nvda.exe -r

If that is even possible (I'm sure it is, but need to double-check).
You can of course reassign shortcut keys.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 8:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Custom Hot Key Disappears On NVDA Update

My hot key disappears each time I update NVDA. The reason for this is, I don't use the desktop shortcut and I also use a different hot key than the default. I prefer to assign the hot key ALT+CONTROL+V and I use the LNK found at C:\programdata\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\NVDA to do this. It would be nice if the NVDA install/update was smart enough to honor custom configurations like mine.


Custom Hot Key Disappears On NVDA Update

Richard Wells
 

My hot key disappears each time I update NVDA. The reason for this is, I
don't use the desktop shortcut and I also use a different hot key than
the default. I prefer to assign the hot key ALT+CONTROL+V and I use the
LNK found at C:\programdata\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\NVDA
to do this. It would be nice if the NVDA install/update was smart enough
to honor custom configurations like mine.


Re: Reaching the comments' section on YouTube video

JM Casey
 

Yes, you are right, youtube pages definitely do this; the comments are not visible unless you scroll down a bit, I believe, although I’m not positive exactly how it works.

 

I have successfully commented on a few things, but, it is generally hit-and-miss, as has been said before. It sometimes seems as though the cursor is not staying in place, or not remaining where one thinks it should be, and so typing does not always yield the expected result!

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: May 1, 2019 9:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reaching the comments' section on YouTube video

 

The reason you find the comments field by using headings from certain parts of the page and not others is probably because the page changes depending on where you are.  Some pages change what they show depending on where you are on the page.  The description sounds as though a Youtube video page does this. 

 

I'm not sure how common this is but I have seen it on occasion.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Luke Davis

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 3:34 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Reaching the comments' section on YouTube video

 

On Tue, 30 Apr 2019, Nimer Jaber wrote:

> Other than a reference to the add-ons list, I saw no reference to NVDA in this thread. This seems like an issue of navigating a particular website, and not
> an issue with NVDA, or learning to accomplish a task with NVDA that NVDA isn't working with or something.

I personally understood it as a "how to use NVDA with the youtube website"
question, otherwise the nvda-addons mention wouldn't have made sense.  But my
subjective opinion is irrelevant since I didn't start the thread.

> If i want to jump to a comment field, I might press h to get to the comments heading, and then tab twice to get to the appropriate edit box. There seems to

You might, but at least if you are using NVDA, with Firefox, on youtube.com,
there is perhaps an 80% chance that you will never reach comments that way.

Comments on youtube.com, seem to start with a heading level 2, which specifies
the number of comments.  But, whether the H key will actually jump you to that
heading, seems to depend on where you are on the page when you start trying to
look for it.

If you are, for example, in the related videos section, you can press H all you
like, and will probably never get to comments.  If you press 2, you will
likely be told that there are no more headings at level 2, even though we know,
that somewhere after those related videos, is a heading level 2 dealing with
comments.

The most reliable way I have found to get to youtube comments, is to press, from
whereever I happen to be on the page, control-end, to jump to the end of the
page.  Then shift-2, which should, most times that I know of, get you to the top
of the comments section.  You may then press e to go to the edit field where you
can type a comment, or use the down arrow or other navigation, to reach other
people's comments.

Luke



Re: blank lines in outlook 2016

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

I got this crashes as well on some messages, most of them contain the official twitter icon in a signature. I tested it with the sender, without this twitter icon in their signature Outlook doesn’t crash.

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Mittwoch, 1. Mai 2019 14:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016

 

Hi All,

 

I have two main problems with outlook 2016 – the 32bit version that you can download and install from office 365.

 

  1. I get blank line over and over when arrowing through messages. Is there a way to ignore / compress more than one blank line in a row?
  2. Often the outlook crashes and restarts. This only happens with NVDA. I have briefed several on this list before and have sent in logs etc. Does this crashing on certain messages happen to anyone else? If I view the message by either looking at it from a forward or a reply it doesn’t crash.

Thanks so much for any input.

Sam

 


question from a new NVDA user

Troy Burnham
 

Hi all,


I've had NVDA installed for a while now but I'm just getting around to possibly starting to use it.


I've been using jaws for years and when it speaks it comes through my external speakers that are plugged into my laptop via the USB port because the earphone jack doesn't work, but I started NVDA yesterday and the voice was coming through the laptop's internal speaker, and it was very low as well. How do I fix this so it comes through my external speakers as well?


Btw strangely enough, I opened the NVDA preferences and changed the Eloquence voice I was using and it immediately got louder although it was still coming through the laptop and not the external speakers. Also, after making changes in preferences I hit the okay button but it didn't take me out of preferences. I got out of preferences by hitting alt-f4 but when I did that the volume of the voice went back down again.


One more thing, when I started NVDA yesterday the volume was so low that I couldn't really hear it but it sounded like it was offering me an NVDA update. I have no idea if it was installed though because since I couldn't really hear what it was saying I couldn't really tell what option I chose when it offered me the update.


Any help with any of this will be greatly appreciated.


Troy


NVDA and Combo Boxes, Agreements?

David Russell
 

Hello NVDA group,

If someone is familiar with registering as an author with Barnes and
Noble Press, this is what this email post is generated from.

When combo boxes are present, and the order of states in the US for
example, is read as a group on one line, how do I go about separating
them out to indicate my state of residence?

When reading an agreement with NVDA, how does one accept or reject if
the choices are not heard at the outset, during, or end of the
agreement text?
Thanks in advance.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@gmail.com


Re: blank lines in outlook 2016

Sam Bushman
 

When you use read to end – then want to get a link to click on – how do you find the link – highlight it and then click on it.

You press esc or another key to stop the read to end – then you need to arrow around to find the link to click on. I just get blank over and over. Any other suggestions?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 7:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016

 

Why are you down arrowing through the message?  Do you have to do so for some reason?  If you use read to end, no blank lines will be spoken.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 7:26 AM

Subject: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016

 

Hi All,

 

I have two main problems with outlook 2016 – the 32bit version that you can download and install from office 365.

 

  1. I get blank line over and over when arrowing through messages. Is there a way to ignore / compress more than one blank line in a row?
  2. Often the outlook crashes and restarts. This only happens with NVDA. I have briefed several on this list before and have sent in logs etc. Does this crashing on certain messages happen to anyone else? If I view the message by either looking at it from a forward or a reply it doesn’t crash.

Thanks so much for any input.

Sam

 


Re: not able to start NVDA using shortcut Ctrl + alt + space

Richard Wells
 

My hot key disappears each time I update NVDA. The reason for this is, I don't use the desktop shortcut and I also use a different hot key than the default. I prefer to assign the hot key ALT+CONTROL+V and I use the LNK found at C:\programdata\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\NVDA to do this. It would be nice if the NVDA install/update was smart enough to honor custom configurations like mine.

On 4/30/2019 10:41 PM, Arlene wrote:

Hi, I’ve seen this happen to me on this new windows ten computer.  NVDA’hotkey disappeared when I took its update.  I had to manually recreat the hot key.  I don’t know why that happens.  I never seen this on my older computer. Just with this one. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: April 30, 2019 12:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] not able to start NVDA using shortcut Ctrl + alt + space

 

I don't know if you sorted it out as I haven't seen any answer from you regarding what others have said.
So here I go with my suggestion.
Even if it has been deleted, shortcut changed or whatever, it's easy peasy to go there on the shortcut properties (assuming it is still there) and set it up again, manually of course.
In case the shortcut itself have desappeared, go to the NVDA's  folder, usually \Program Files (X86)\NVDA and then recreate the shortcut from there.
This is assuming you have NVDA installed, not portable. Otherwise I don't think you'd be using this shortcut thing anyway.

Hth


Cheers,
Marcio

AKA Starboy

 

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Em 29/04/2019 07:22, Mohd. Ahtesham Shaikh disse:

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: wrong subject: It should be ctrl + alt +N and not (space)]

Hi all,
As the subject suggests, I am unable to start or restart NVDA using the shortcut key combinations.
Ctrl+ alt + N
Any particular reason you guys think is preventing me from doing so?

Please respond.
This is on my office computer.

Regards,


Mohd. Ahtesham
From India
Using Windows 8.1 at home and windows 10 pro in office

 

 


Re: blank lines in outlook 2016

Gene
 

Why are you down arrowing through the message?  Do you have to do so for some reason?  If you use read to end, no blank lines will be spoken.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 7:26 AM
Subject: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016

Hi All,

 

I have two main problems with outlook 2016 – the 32bit version that you can download and install from office 365.

 

  1. I get blank line over and over when arrowing through messages. Is there a way to ignore / compress more than one blank line in a row?
  2. Often the outlook crashes and restarts. This only happens with NVDA. I have briefed several on this list before and have sent in logs etc. Does this crashing on certain messages happen to anyone else? If I view the message by either looking at it from a forward or a reply it doesn’t crash.

Thanks so much for any input.

Sam

 


Re: Reaching the comments' section on YouTube video

 

Gene,
I believe the other Gene was talking about the "normal" YouTube and so I answered about it :)
Now, that's a good question. I really don't know whether I am right on this. We will have to wait for his confirmation...

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Em 01/05/2019 07:23, Gene disse:

What are we talking about??? The accessible Youtube site or the main site??? On the accessible site, the various items have text labels above them such as comments.?? I believe the page may list shortcuts for getting to various sections.?? If people haven't read this, its another example of why people should look around on unfamiliar pages and not assume things are of no interest.?? Its the same reason people should look at a complete e-mail message sent on whatever topic a member sends one on, on an e-mail list.?? They will see footers with all sorts of useful links such as unsubscribe, perhaps nomail links, and maybe other useful links and information.??
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Aside from that, I didn't bother learning the shortcuts.?? I may have learned ones I was interested in if I was going to use the site at all frequently, but there is a text label above every section.?? There is a comments label.?? If you use the screen-reader's search feature from the top of the page and search for comments, you will find it efficiently.??
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If people are talking about the Youtube web page, you may find things differently, if they are consistently accessible on different pages.?? At this point, it isn't clear who is talking about what.
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Gene
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Reaching the comments' section on YouTube video

Gene NZ,
Using browse mode, pressing F/shift+F (or E/shift+E), all I can get is the search field for searching a video.
No comments section at all.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Em 30/04/2019 16:56, hurrikennyandopo ... disse:

Hi


Does the E key or F key not get you to that area. I tried it with the browse mode keys and it took me there.


I am wondering when you do get to that field and it says public comment or what ever it said are you changing into focus mode just in case it is not going into the mode correctly. I guess also it depends how you have it set as well.


Gene nz


On 1/05/2019 6:21 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi

I answered a similar request some weeks ago when I recommended a site designed for blind users which gives an ad free interface to search for and play YouTube videos.?? The link is:

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http://www.povidi.com/YourTube/

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After opening the site, use the e key to jump to the search edit box, then ??hit the spacebar to move into focus mode (unless you have auto mode switching set in NVDA).?? Type in your search criteria, then pres tab to move to a combo box where you set the number of results per page.?? Set this to 10, 20 or 50, then press tab again.?? You landin another combo box where you can choose between videos, channels or playlists (I only ever use videos which is the default).?? Tab again to the search button and press spacebar to run the search.

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The results appear in a numbered list which you can access using the h key.?? Press this repeatedly and when you find one you want to play, press tab to move focus to it and press enter.?? A dialog box opens for the chosen video.?? Again use the h key to jup to the different sections, which include player controls, pla details, video information and video comments. You can use the b key to jump to the various player control buttons.

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After video has played, use alt+left arrow to return to the results list dialog at the point where you left it.

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Cheers

Chris ??

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: 30 April 2019 14:46
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Subject: [nvda] Reaching the comments' section on YouTube video

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Hi guys,
Quite a while ago I posted here about the very same subject and at that time there was a workaround that really worked like a charm.
Trouble is, it doesn't seem to work anymore.

So, would any of you happen to know of a way to get to the comments' section on a YouTube video in a reliable manner?
Lately, for me, it's been a hit and miss. And honestly, let me tell you, it has been more of a miss than a hit. Really not fun to waste so much time with something that should be easy peasy, as I like to say.

I'm sending this one to the NVDA add-ons list as well, in case someone thinks it'd be a good idea to make an add-on to work with it and give it a solution once and for all.
Were I happen to have enough skills with it I could, should and would very well start such a project.

Cheers,
Marcio.

AKA Starboy

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Re: Reaching the comments' section on YouTube video

Gene
 

The reason you find the comments field by using headings from certain parts of the page and not others is probably because the page changes depending on where you are.  Some pages change what they show depending on where you are on the page.  The description sounds as though a Youtube video page does this. 
 
I'm not sure how common this is but I have seen it on occasion.

Gene
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From: Luke Davis
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 3:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reaching the comments' section on YouTube video

On Tue, 30 Apr 2019, Nimer Jaber wrote:

> Other than a reference to the add-ons list, I saw no reference to NVDA in this thread. This seems like an issue of navigating a particular website, and not
> an issue with NVDA, or learning to accomplish a task with NVDA that NVDA isn't working with or something.

I personally understood it as a "how to use NVDA with the youtube website"
question, otherwise the nvda-addons mention wouldn't have made sense.  But my
subjective opinion is irrelevant since I didn't start the thread.

> If i want to jump to a comment field, I might press h to get to the comments heading, and then tab twice to get to the appropriate edit box. There seems to

You might, but at least if you are using NVDA, with Firefox, on youtube.com,
there is perhaps an 80% chance that you will never reach comments that way.

Comments on youtube.com, seem to start with a heading level 2, which specifies
the number of comments.  But, whether the H key will actually jump you to that
heading, seems to depend on where you are on the page when you start trying to
look for it.

If you are, for example, in the related videos section, you can press H all you
like, and will probably never get to comments.  If you press 2, you will
likely be told that there are no more headings at level 2, even though we know,
that somewhere after those related videos, is a heading level 2 dealing with
comments.

The most reliable way I have found to get to youtube comments, is to press, from
whereever I happen to be on the page, control-end, to jump to the end of the
page.  Then shift-2, which should, most times that I know of, get you to the top
of the comments section.  You may then press e to go to the edit field where you
can type a comment, or use the down arrow or other navigation, to reach other
people's comments.

Luke




blank lines in outlook 2016

Sam Bushman
 

Hi All,

 

I have two main problems with outlook 2016 – the 32bit version that you can download and install from office 365.

 

  1. I get blank line over and over when arrowing through messages. Is there a way to ignore / compress more than one blank line in a row?
  2. Often the outlook crashes and restarts. This only happens with NVDA. I have briefed several on this list before and have sent in logs etc. Does this crashing on certain messages happen to anyone else? If I view the message by either looking at it from a forward or a reply it doesn’t crash.

Thanks so much for any input.

Sam