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Re: issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA
Hareth <hareth4m@...>
In one instance the quick key folder nav stopped working here last night.
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Closing and reopening thunderbird solved it. SS On 8/12/20, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
Doing some experimenting. Just installed Thunderbird version 78.1 along |
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issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA
Don H
Doing some experimenting. Just installed Thunderbird version 78.1 along with the quick key folder nav addon. Still having issues with the addon working as it should.
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Re: Thunderbird quick key folder nav extension
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 04:45 PM, Kevin Cussick wrote:
I have not seen this before but now the addon works again as it had stopped working.- My guess is that Thunderbird is maturing in terms of how it handles extensions and what it expects of extension authors. It's really not unlike the evolution of NVDA in that regard. First there was basically nothing but "write an extension and it's up to the user to know when things change," then Joseph Lee's Add-On Updater, then the added feature to Add-On Updater such that it removes obsolete add-ons, and I believe eventually that functionality is to be integrated into the NVDA core code. In order for any of that to work, the add-on writers have to provide specific information, in a specific format, so that the logic that figures out, "does this work now," can do it. That also points out, though, that what many end-users think of as "automatic" is, in reality, anything but. The ability to have these "automated for the end user" functions work imposes burdens on the developers to support what's needed to make them work. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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Re: NVDA says cannot verify my Vocalizer License
Hmmm well it could be a server outage.
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Or it could be something with your system or your network or something. I am currently troubleshooting a system issue with someone right now, and well its a little problematic. the issue only happens on one apple workstation everything else is fine. It may be where it is, the system is updated though. Could be outdated firmware on the network device, I will only know when I see the person next week assuming we are out of lockdown again. The previder say this person has an old modem and will need to get another and I may try to handle that first. On 13/08/2020 10:43 am, Socheat Muth wrote:
Yes, I did deactivate my license before I reinstall Windows. Don't know why it did this, as I never had the issue before. And I am the only one who currently using the license. And only one computer being activated though. |
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Re: Thunderbird quick key folder nav extension
Kevin Cussick
Brian, I got the very same message on my 64bit version of tbird, I have not seen this before but now the addon works again as it had stopped working. so one happy camper.
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On 12/08/2020 18:11, Brian Vogel wrote:
Here's a first, at least for me. I went in to Tbird extensions to see which ones I have installed after someone mentioned Lightning on a separate topic. Quick Folder Key Navigation is another of the extensions I have installed. |
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Re: issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA
You can turn off the today pain in view but even with it off any status message will announce the today pain as being active.
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The calendar though is accessible if you do need it. I don't but some may. On 13/08/2020 6:51 am, Don H wrote:
One thing that thunderbird 78 has is a calendar that is not a addon as it has been. Is there a way to disable the calendar? |
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Re: issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 02:08 PM, Gene wrote:
I've said before that if people only use Thunderbird for e-mail, I think updating is a bad idea.- Rushing to update anything before it's main public release is always fraught with problems. So is refusing to update after a major release as time marches on. Best practice is to update to keep pace with the latest release that is available to the public, not in beta, regardless of the software involved, whenever one can. If you're going to have problems, and you are no matter what you do (or don't do) it's better to have them with something where a solution will be actively being sought, and that means current versions (and/or supported versions - as come companies do support several at one time). -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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Re: Protonmail
Hmmm the bridge sounds a mess. At any rate why would I want to use protonmail web when I can use gmail without any message limits on thunderbird. I guess I could set up an encripted email on proton if I were that concerned which I am not. I am not doing anything wrong anywhere. Why can't I just set up pgp if I really want to do this, thunderbird supports it. So google make money, our personal information is up for sale, and they give us so much free services, services which would cost a lot otherwise. Is it worth the loss of privacy. Put it this way, it is secure, and I have really good uptime. Pluss the os, the gps, the maps, email, hangouts, chrome, the list goes on and on and on. And its why I bother with google adds even. They are giving me enough that I feel I don't mind selling my private info to them, as long as they continue to give me remote services like captcha for my site and it all works and translation and image discriptions and other things like they do, oh and youtube, music and otherwise, its worth my privacy. Back on dialup days I can remember a 10 mb storage limit, 2.50 dollars an hour, 2 bucks for an email address a month. I think the issue with a lot of new people is they forget before the cloud it actually cost a lot to be online. Being private is fine, but on the other hand if google were an isp to I'd also get into it.
On 13/08/2020 2:27 am, Jesse
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Re: issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA
Kevin Cussick
Hi, Interestingly enough I got an update to this app on this computer I am using 78.1.1 of tbird, it is 64bit but I got an update to this addon yesterday and it now works.
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On 12/08/2020 13:50, Dan Beaver wrote:
I started having the problem where quick nav wasn't working at all. I took a look around and discovered that there had been an extension installed called Lightning. I looked into it and decided I didn't want it. I removed it and now my quick nav extension is working perfectly. |
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applian medi capture latest install
Hi all.
This is just a small note that if you use this and install it, you will loose speech near install end. If you hit winkey r and type nvda or restart nvda you will get speech back and can finnish install. A note though, while you will get speech back, it appears the digital output device has been updated, you will need to go to sound and playback in control panel or settings and make sure your internal sound card is the default else you will not get windows sounds to work. you will then need to restart nvda again. On reboot it will all work again to. I really wander how to have it so windows never changes default soundcard no matter what is plugged in. Obviously if its something like a headset, I want it to change or a usb device. But not a virtual or an hdmi cable because these things either have really bad speakers or no sound at all. There used to be a way in windows 7 but I am not sure what to do with windows 10. Its not the end of the world but its just annoying. |
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Re: issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA
Hareth <hareth4m@...>
This URL is for the latest release in all available languages,
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Each language download options has its own heading: https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/all/ On 8/12/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
In that case, upgrading may be a good idea. |
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Re: issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA
Don H
One thing that thunderbird 78 has is a calendar that is not a addon as it has been. Is there a way to disable the calendar?
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On 8/12/2020 1:45 PM, Gene wrote:
In that case, upgrading may be a good idea. |
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Re: issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA
Gene
In that case, upgrading may be a good idea.
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Gene -----Original Message-----
From: Hareth Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 1:25 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA No, The quick key folder navigation does work fine with thunderbird 78. plus they added some long waited feature "minimize to tray' to TB options And the options setting interface has become a lot easier to deal with. . SS On 8/12/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: It should be noted that when you get to version 78.x, which isn't available |
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Re: Thunderbird quick key folder nav extension
Hareth <hareth4m@...>
I've used the thunderbird 78 own addons browser to install it.
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It doesn't show on the internet browsers the way it appears with the thunderbird own browser. Hope that helps. SS On 8/12/20, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
When I looked for addons for version 78 the quick key nav was not a |
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Re: Thunderbird quick key folder nav extension
Don H
When I looked for addons for version 78 the quick key nav was not a option to install.
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On 8/12/2020 1:18 PM, Hareth wrote:
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Re: issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA
Hareth <hareth4m@...>
No,
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The quick key folder navigation does work fine with thunderbird 78. plus they added some long waited feature "minimize to tray' to TB options And the options setting interface has become a lot easier to deal with. . SS On 8/12/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
It should be noted that when you get to version 78.x, which isn't available |
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Re: Thunderbird quick key folder nav extension
Hareth <hareth4m@...>
Hi,
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For a few days now Quick Folder Key Navigation extension works even with the latest thunderbird 78 release. Plus worth saying here that the long waited for "minimize to tray" feature has been added to Thunderbird 78 as well. You can find it in the thunderbird options. SS On 8/12/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
Here's a first, at least for me. I went in to Tbird extensions to see which |
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Re: Thunderbird quick key folder nav extension
Gene
Since the Quick Keys navigation add-on updated, perhaps the hnew version works with version 78.x. That may no longer be a problem. But I don't know if 78.x introduced more changes that cause the add-on not to be compatible.
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Gene -----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 12:11 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Thunderbird quick key folder nav extension Here's a first, at least for me. I went in to Tbird extensions to see which ones I have installed after someone mentioned Lightning on a separate topic. Quick Folder Key Navigation is another of the extensions I have installed. After jumping over to my web browser for a couple of minutes, I noticed a T-bird window with the title, "Loading...," had shown up, which I'd never seen before, and its content is about Quick Folder Key Navigation. It reads: The add-on has been updated to make it compatible with Thunderbird version 69.0 and later. It continues to be compatible with Thunderbird 68.0. Note that the "Enable key navigation" item for toggling key navigation on and off in the folder tree that used to be added to the "Go" menu has been moved to the context menu of the folder tree. The only button is Close. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde |
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Re: issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA
Gene
It should be noted that when you get to version 78.x, which isn't available through the program update yet, but its coming at some point, that the quick navigation add-on will no longer work, nor will the other add-on that adds functionality. I might be able to find out its name. Its something like Mozilla enhancements. I've said before that if people only use Thunderbird for e-mail, I think updating is a bad idea. If you use other features, it might make sense to do so.
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Also, the Lightning add-on is no longer used in 78.X. The calendar function is built into the program. I don't know if it can be disabled but those are changes people who just let the program update should be aware of. If it can't be disabled, that might be another reason for not letting the program update. These topics need more discussion. Gene -----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 12:00 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] issues with quick nav of thunderbird and NVDA On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 08:50 AM, Dan Beaver wrote: I took a look around and discovered that there had been an extension installed called Lightning.This was the Calendar/Schedule extension for Thunderbird, from way, way back. If you don't use that functionality, then removing it is a good idea. I've had consistent behavior out of the Quick Folder Key Navigation extension for years now. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde |
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Re: Thunderbird quick key folder nav extension
Here's a first, at least for me. I went in to Tbird extensions to see which ones I have installed after someone mentioned Lightning on a separate topic. Quick Folder Key Navigation is another of the extensions I have installed.
After jumping over to my web browser for a couple of minutes, I noticed a T-bird window with the title, "Loading...," had shown up, which I'd never seen before, and its content is about Quick Folder Key Navigation. It reads: The add-on has been updated to make it compatible with Thunderbird version 69.0 and later. It continues to be compatible with Thunderbird 68.0. Note that the "Enable key navigation" item for toggling key navigation on and off in the folder tree that used to be added to the "Go" menu has been moved to the context menu of the folder tree. The only button is Close. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally. ~ Oscar Wilde
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