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Re: Bug with Windows 10 Clipboard History

 

Hi,

I get a feeling that this is keyboard hook issue – I’m guessing that nVDA’s keyboard input hook is interfering with what clipboard history is supposed to accomplish.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kara Goldfinch
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 2:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Bug with Windows 10 Clipboard History

 

Brian,

I've tried the same thing on my wife's computer with her keyboard and the same thing happens,.

 

On 21/08/2020 16:55, Brian Vogel wrote:

Can this be replicated if you use a different keyboard?

I ask only because of how many "intermittently sticky" command keys I've encountered over the years as a computer repair person.  I'm not saying there is not a bug, but you should use a different keyboard, and preferably one you know to be behaving well, as a diagnostic step.  If the behavior does not persist, suspect your keyboard is going wonky.  And they can do this in stages where everything works fine then you have a brief period of "sticky command key" then it releases.  It's definitely not always an all or nothing situation, which makes it hard to diagnose sometimes.
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Re: Bug with Windows 10 Clipboard History

Kara Goldfinch
 

Brian,

I've tried the same thing on my wife's computer with her keyboard and the same thing happens,.


On 21/08/2020 16:55, Brian Vogel wrote:

Can this be replicated if you use a different keyboard?

I ask only because of how many "intermittently sticky" command keys I've encountered over the years as a computer repair person.  I'm not saying there is not a bug, but you should use a different keyboard, and preferably one you know to be behaving well, as a diagnostic step.  If the behavior does not persist, suspect your keyboard is going wonky.  And they can do this in stages where everything works fine then you have a brief period of "sticky command key" then it releases.  It's definitely not always an all or nothing situation, which makes it hard to diagnose sometimes.
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Windows OneCore voices don't appear correctly in the list of synthesizers

Louise Pfau <lpfau@...>
 

Hi.  I believe I may have accidentally discovered a discrepancy in the “Select a synthesizer” dialog with regard to the “Windows OneCore” voices.  They don’t appear in the list, even though they are the default synthesizer for Windows 10.  I hadn’t intended to change the synthesizer, but I triggerd the command.  I was able to replicate the problem by uninstalling then reinstalling NVDA.  I’m running the most recent versions of both NVDA and Windows 10.  I’ve just joined the group, and it’s not in my list of groups in the main groups.io interface yet, so I can’t check the archive to see if this question has already been posted.
 
Thanks,
 
Louise


Re: Python Anywhere and NVDA

Sean
 

I think NVDA's built-in documentation is good to use NVDA more efficiently.

A lot can be said for other topics.

I just learned from people to turn on the computer. I saw everything after it from the Internet.

You can read a few blog posts that describe the CMD environment and will familiarize you with Windows.
Or a good book to keep going with a plan.

On 21/08/2020 20:18, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Good advice, Sean, I would be glad to follow your suggestion.

 

How do I get to know CMD, Python Console and NVDA's cursor / navigation system?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sean
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 2:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Python Anywhere and NVDA

 

Hello, good luck.

I don't think IDEs running as web services are efficient.

Because the codes are difficult to navigate.

I recommend getting used to CMD, Python Console and NVDA's cursor / navigation system.

On 21/08/2020 13:54, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Hi all,

 

I am starting to learn the Python programming language and I have been making efforts to use the Python anywhere online browser. I have managed to register and achieve a user name and password. I have also managed, with some difficulty, to get into my dashboard and open a console. I may be using the wrong commands but I am finding it difficult to work with the command window.

 

Have any members on this list used Python anywhere successfully?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Re: Python Anywhere and NVDA

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Good advice, Sean, I would be glad to follow your suggestion.

 

How do I get to know CMD, Python Console and NVDA's cursor / navigation system?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sean
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 2:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Python Anywhere and NVDA

 

Hello, good luck.

I don't think IDEs running as web services are efficient.

Because the codes are difficult to navigate.

I recommend getting used to CMD, Python Console and NVDA's cursor / navigation system.

On 21/08/2020 13:54, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Hi all,

 

I am starting to learn the Python programming language and I have been making efforts to use the Python anywhere online browser. I have managed to register and achieve a user name and password. I have also managed, with some difficulty, to get into my dashboard and open a console. I may be using the wrong commands but I am finding it difficult to work with the command window.

 

Have any members on this list used Python anywhere successfully?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com

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Re: Bug with Windows 10 Clipboard History

 

Can this be replicated if you use a different keyboard?

I ask only because of how many "intermittently sticky" command keys I've encountered over the years as a computer repair person.  I'm not saying there is not a bug, but you should use a different keyboard, and preferably one you know to be behaving well, as a diagnostic step.  If the behavior does not persist, suspect your keyboard is going wonky.  And they can do this in stages where everything works fine then you have a brief period of "sticky command key" then it releases.  It's definitely not always an all or nothing situation, which makes it hard to diagnose sometimes.
--

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A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: NVDA Menu

ADRIAN POCOCK
 

try caps lock n or tab to not area arrow to nvda right click


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...>
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 4:21:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Menu
 

Did you try doing a restart? I have to do that from time to time when that happens.



On 8/21/2020 7:14 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via groups.io wrote:

Yes, trouble is, I can’t get to the menu with insert+n and then preferences.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Hunsaker
Sent: 21 August 2020 14:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Menu

 

In preferences you can set CAPS LOCK as the NVDA/insert key

 

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 05:54 Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via groups.io <steven.hicks=nhs.net@groups.io> wrote:

I Have installed NVDA on a machine which has a bluetooth keyboard and I can’t find the insert key, not sure if it has one, it is the Apple style layout.

 

I Need to bring up the NVDA menu to go in to the options and change the keyboard layout to be laptop but I can’t perform an instert+n, does anyone know of another way to bring up the NVDA menu please?



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Re: Bug with Windows 10 Clipboard History

Tony Malykh
 

Hi Kara,

Could you write down exact steps to reproduce this? What is clipboard history?

I am experiencing sticky Control key often, but I don't have a reliable way to reproduce this. If I have one, I might investigate this myself.

--Tony


On 8/21/2020 7:17 AM, Kara Goldfinch wrote:

Hi everyone.

I believe this might have been mentioned before, but sometimes when pasting text using the clipboard history menu, either the control key will stick, or it'll just insert the letter v.

It only happens with NVDA. I don't have either of these issues with Narrator.

I have tested this with all add-ons disabled with the same result.

I'm running Windows 10 Version 2004 (OS Build 19041.450) and NVDA version 2020.2. The same happens with the current NVDA alpha, which at time of writing is version alpha-20763,1ef4dfb0.

Any ideas what might be causing this?

Thanks in advance,

Kara


Re: NVDA Menu

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Did you try doing a restart? I have to do that from time to time when that happens.



On 8/21/2020 7:14 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via groups.io wrote:

Yes, trouble is, I can’t get to the menu with insert+n and then preferences.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Hunsaker
Sent: 21 August 2020 14:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Menu

 

In preferences you can set CAPS LOCK as the NVDA/insert key

 

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 05:54 Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via groups.io <steven.hicks=nhs.net@groups.io> wrote:

I Have installed NVDA on a machine which has a bluetooth keyboard and I can’t find the insert key, not sure if it has one, it is the Apple style layout.

 

I Need to bring up the NVDA menu to go in to the options and change the keyboard layout to be laptop but I can’t perform an instert+n, does anyone know of another way to bring up the NVDA menu please?



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Bug with Windows 10 Clipboard History

Kara Goldfinch
 

Hi everyone.

I believe this might have been mentioned before, but sometimes when pasting text using the clipboard history menu, either the control key will stick, or it'll just insert the letter v.

It only happens with NVDA. I don't have either of these issues with Narrator.

I have tested this with all add-ons disabled with the same result.

I'm running Windows 10 Version 2004 (OS Build 19041.450) and NVDA version 2020.2. The same happens with the current NVDA alpha, which at time of writing is version alpha-20763,1ef4dfb0.

Any ideas what might be causing this?

Thanks in advance,

Kara


Re: NVDA Menu

Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) <steven.hicks@...>
 

Yes, trouble is, I can’t get to the menu with insert+n and then preferences.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Hunsaker
Sent: 21 August 2020 14:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Menu

 

In preferences you can set CAPS LOCK as the NVDA/insert key

 

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 05:54 Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via groups.io <steven.hicks=nhs.net@groups.io> wrote:

I Have installed NVDA on a machine which has a bluetooth keyboard and I can’t find the insert key, not sure if it has one, it is the Apple style layout.

 

I Need to bring up the NVDA menu to go in to the options and change the keyboard layout to be laptop but I can’t perform an instert+n, does anyone know of another way to bring up the NVDA menu please?



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Re: NVDA Menu

Chris
 

The notification tray icon and right click on it

 

 

From: Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via groups.io
Sent: 21 August 2020 13:54
To: NVDA@NVDA.Groups.IO
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Menu

 

Hi friends,

 

I Have installed NVDA on a machine which has a bluetooth keyboard and I can’t find the insert key, not sure if it has one, it is the Apple style layout.

I Need to bring up the NVDA menu to go in to the options and change the keyboard layout to be laptop but I can’t perform an instert+n, does anyone know of another way to bring up the NVDA menu please?

 



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A call for testing to users of the OCR add-on

Lukasz Golonka
 

Hi all,

i've recently released a new development version of the OCR addon which
can be downloaded from https://github.com/lukaszgo1/nvda-ocr/releases/download/v2.1-dev/ocr-2.1-dev.nvda-addon
While user visible changes are documented in the readme the main change
in this version is the way in which parts of the screen are captured for
recognition and that is where I need your help. If you're using my
add-on currently I would be grateful if you could install the dev
version from the link above and use it for some time.
I've done some testing before release obviously but it is impossible
to account for every application out there, and while the new capturing
implementation makes future maintenance easier I don't want to do that
at the cost of worse recognition results.
Many thanks for your testing!



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Re: NVDA Menu

Michael Hunsaker
 

In preferences you can set CAPS LOCK as the NVDA/insert key

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 05:54 Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via groups.io <steven.hicks=nhs.net@groups.io> wrote:

I Have installed NVDA on a machine which has a bluetooth keyboard and I can’t find the insert key, not sure if it has one, it is the Apple style layout.


I Need to bring up the NVDA menu to go in to the options and change the keyboard layout to be laptop but I can’t perform an instert+n, does anyone know of another way to bring up the NVDA menu please?


Re: Python Anywhere and NVDA

Sean
 

Hello, good luck.

I don't think IDEs running as web services are efficient.

Because the codes are difficult to navigate.

I recommend getting used to CMD, Python Console and NVDA's cursor / navigation system.

On 21/08/2020 13:54, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Hi all,

 

I am starting to learn the Python programming language and I have been making efforts to use the Python anywhere online browser. I have managed to register and achieve a user name and password. I have also managed, with some difficulty, to get into my dashboard and open a console. I may be using the wrong commands but I am finding it difficult to work with the command window.

 

Have any members on this list used Python anywhere successfully?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 


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Re: NVDA Menu

Jacob Kruger
 

If you have a windows key, then windows key + B to focus on system tray/notifications bar, and, then look for the NVDA icon there - if it's not showing, you might need to first shift + tab to something liketask view button, and invoke context menu - shift + f10 if no context menu key on keyboard, and, find the item to let you choose which icons appear in system tray. Either way, hitting enter on the system tray icon for NVDA will invoke it's popup menu.


Else, ctrl + escape should invoke start menu, and then hitting escape should close it, but, hopefully leave focus on start button, so you can always tab over to task view button or system tray from there.


HTH


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On 2020-08-21 01:54 PM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via groups.io wrote:

Hi friends,

 

I Have installed NVDA on a machine which has a bluetooth keyboard and I can’t find the insert key, not sure if it has one, it is the Apple style layout.

I Need to bring up the NVDA menu to go in to the options and change the keyboard layout to be laptop but I can’t perform an instert+n, does anyone know of another way to bring up the NVDA menu please?

 



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Re: NVDA Menu

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hello,

Go to the NVDA icon in the systray by pressing Windows-B (on your Mac keyboard Option-B), hit the letter N until you come to NVDA and press Enter

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via groups.io
Sent: Freitag, 21. August 2020 13:54
To: NVDA@NVDA.Groups.IO
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Menu

 

Hi friends,

 

I Have installed NVDA on a machine which has a bluetooth keyboard and I can’t find the insert key, not sure if it has one, it is the Apple style layout.

I Need to bring up the NVDA menu to go in to the options and change the keyboard layout to be laptop but I can’t perform an instert+n, does anyone know of another way to bring up the NVDA menu please?

 



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NVDA Menu

Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) <steven.hicks@...>
 

Hi friends,

 

I Have installed NVDA on a machine which has a bluetooth keyboard and I can’t find the insert key, not sure if it has one, it is the Apple style layout.

I Need to bring up the NVDA menu to go in to the options and change the keyboard layout to be laptop but I can’t perform an instert+n, does anyone know of another way to bring up the NVDA menu please?

 



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Re: multiple instances of NVDA

Gene
 

I should have added that I am using Windows 7 and using NVDA as a portable program, and that may or may not make a difference.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 5:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] multiple instances of NVDA

I've never had it happen when I unload NVDA, then restart it. I'm not
talking about using the control alt n command when NVDA hangs or crashes.
I'm talking about using NVDA key q, then restarting.

KI've only seen this happen when NV
DA crashes and I restart it.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 3:11 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] multiple instances of NVDA


Interesting, I regularly restart NVDA and I don't recall ever seeing it from
that. Do you have any add-ons?


On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 4:35 PM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2020, Quentin Christensen wrote:

This is generally caused by something closing NVDA unexpectedly, such as it crashing, or if you go to task manager and "End task" it. I haven't seen it
when restarting or updating add-ons. I wonder if it is a particular add-on which is not letting NVDA shut down cleanly?
If anyone replicates this, ideally with the log set to debug level, I'd be interested in your nvda-old.log file (the one from when NVDA didn't shut down
properly).
I'll get you one, but I must say that I have rarely NOT had this happen when
doing an NVDA restart.
It is just the way of things.
Since it happens on all of my systems, I assumed it was an error with slave
or
helper, and couldn't be avoided.

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Re: multiple instances of NVDA

Gene
 

I've never had it happen when I unload NVDA, then restart it. I'm not talking about using the control alt n command when NVDA hangs or crashes. I'm talking about using NVDA key q, then restarting.

KI've only seen this happen when NV
DA crashes and I restart it.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 3:11 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] multiple instances of NVDA


Interesting, I regularly restart NVDA and I don't recall ever seeing it from that. Do you have any add-ons?


On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 4:35 PM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2020, Quentin Christensen wrote:

This is generally caused by something closing NVDA unexpectedly, such as it crashing, or if you go to task manager and "End task" it. I haven't seen it
when restarting or updating add-ons. I wonder if it is a particular add-on which is not letting NVDA shut down cleanly?
If anyone replicates this, ideally with the log set to debug level, I'd be interested in your nvda-old.log file (the one from when NVDA didn't shut down
properly).
I'll get you one, but I must say that I have rarely NOT had this happen when
doing an NVDA restart.
It is just the way of things.
Since it happens on all of my systems, I assumed it was an error with slave or
helper, and couldn't be avoided.

Luke







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