Date   

DECtalk Synthesizer

Don H
 

I found the link for the Dectalk syn that works with the latest version of NVDA.  I can post it here if someone can tell me if this a legal addon.  It is from

grossgang.com


Re: DECtalk Synthesizer

Gene
 

I just tried to see it. The group doesn't have an unrestricted archive. I don't want to join the group. Would you give an idea of what was said if it can be easily summarized?

While I might get permission to seee the posts, if many people want to know what it said and don't want to join the group, that might result in the owner/moderator getting many requests.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 4:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] DECtalk Synthesizer

My last word on this will be to see this topic in ANATAD: https://groups.google.com/g/anatad/c/wiarx0UGvkg/m/3X9NW5aICAAJ
--


Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

~ Oscar Wilde


Re: DECtalk Synthesizer

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I used to have dectalk too but it doesn't work on my system either.

On 8/19/2020 12:04 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
Can you send me the link to get DecTalk?  I didn't see one on this list. I had a DecTalk add on for NVDA but it no longer works. If you have a new one, I'd love to have it.
Roger







On 8/19/2020 1:24 PM, brian wrote:
I down loaded the one that was posted today.

Brian Sackrider

On 8/19/2020 2:22 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:
Which DECtalk do you have? I'm eagerly awaiting an update to the USB driver for the DECtalk Plus I think it's called.


On 8/19/2020 2:15 PM, brian wrote:
I just tried deck talk and it's the same that I had on my reading edge. All the same voices are there. They alll sound just the way that they did back then.

Brian Sackrider







Re: DECtalk Synthesizer

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I'd like it too.

On 8/19/2020 1:39 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Diddo. I want it also.

On 8/19/2020 3:04 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
Can you send me the link to get DecTalk? I didn't see one on this list. I had a DecTalk add on for NVDA but it no longer works. If you have a new one, I'd love to have it.
Roger







On 8/19/2020 1:24 PM, brian wrote:
I down loaded the one that was posted today.

Brian Sackrider

On 8/19/2020 2:22 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:
Which DECtalk do you have? I'm eagerly awaiting an update to the USB driver for the DECtalk Plus I think it's called.


On 8/19/2020 2:15 PM, brian wrote:
I just tried deck talk and it's the same that I had on my reading edge. All the same voices are there. They alll sound just the way that they did back then.

Brian Sackrider








Re: DECtalk Synthesizer

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I tried it but didn't care for it.



On 8/19/2020 2:28 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Has anyone here tried the NV Speech Player Add-On?
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: DECtalk Synthesizer

Jesse Farquharson
 

You could make any synth sing with a vocoder, true. But I don't feel like the result would be as nice. That's why I like the DecTalk synth. You can get it to sing by specifically writing down how it will perform. I mean, if there is a way to make some other NVDA synth sing that would be neat, but I doubt it.


Re: DECtalk Synthesizer

 

My last word on this will be to see this topic in ANATAD:  https://groups.google.com/g/anatad/c/wiarx0UGvkg/m/3X9NW5aICAAJ
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: DECtalk Synthesizer

Don H
 

So I found a NVDA addon called DECtalk py3.nvda-addon.  Is this a legal addon?  It works well with NVDA 2020.2 but I will remove it if it isn't legal.

On 8/19/2020 4:28 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Has anyone here tried the NV Speech Player Add-On?
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: DECtalk Synthesizer

 

Mind you you could technically make any synth sing if you had a vocoder plugin.



On 20/08/2020 9:28 am, Brian Vogel wrote:

Has anyone here tried the NV Speech Player Add-On?
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: DECtalk Synthesizer

 

Hmmm I have, but I can't say I care for it that much.

Though to be truthfull espeak, and my sapi high quality vocaliser and eloquence are enough to handle here.

I haven't as yet fully pushed that addon.

Though I don't know if that would be able to sing.



On 20/08/2020 9:28 am, Brian Vogel wrote:

Has anyone here tried the NV Speech Player Add-On?
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: DECtalk Synthesizer

 

To be honest I am not sure if anyone actually gives a damn about this.

I used to like this when dectalk had its archive but thats a static thing now.

I suspect that while dectalk itself is not exactly used that for those musicians on there and others there are better ways to get something to sing.

Dectalk was really good in its day, don't get me wrong and through the early 2000s it kept going.

But I have heard plugins in logic and reeper for example to make chipmusic and have some soundfonts sounding like various consoles.

There is a plugin called chipspeak I think which you can use to make synthesised speech singing.

There are actual singing synths about to.

Point is, dectalk had its day.

There are software and hardware packages similar to it in some respects and not others.

To be honest, the fact dectalk usb costs a lot about 600 bucks last I checked and with no more serial ports pluss well the rest of the yesteryear stuff well who knows.

I mean I have the really low quality dectalk sapi synth but if you ever get eloquence installed either from code factory or an old sapi4 gwmicro windows eyes disk, or even old viavoice you have dectalk to an extent.

And since I have named at least 3 synths that can emulate one I wouldn't put it much to a stretch that the klatt and other methods used are probably emulated.

I mean if someone made a dectalk soundfont or instrument and maybe there is somewhere, we just don't know, its going to be easier to run that.

Back in windows xp days, when I did have a serial port and old keynote and dectalk synths I tried to run them with supernova.

While the gold did actually work and did eventually speak with ssil, the dec wouldn't it got locked up with detection, and then supernova sounded strange till I fiddled with it.

If I tried it again, it would totally screw over windows and I'd have to do a full in those time reformat.

After doing about 3 to 5 tries and about 6 or so reformats I came to the conclusion that, because the dectalk was trying to access the serial directly and the hardware abstraction layer just doesn't like that in fact some time ago past windows 98 microsoft really doesn't want hardware communicating directly with other hardware it was a no go.

Its why I no longer have any hardware synths.

Now if someone is willing to colaberate with me with this, actually get an old system, maybe I get xp vm on here though I have no system with a serial port, maybe win98 or something and an old coppy of hal 5, I do have an old copy of fully legal hal5 here I could contribute to this and are willing to talk on my podcast about setting this up then fine.

However its a tall order especially with covid.

I'm not buying usb dectalk for a doodle.

If there is anything I miss with serial synths as supposed to software, is I had a better time on linux with one.



On 20/08/2020 8:42 am, Jesse Farquharson wrote:

I desperately hope there is. I held off upgrading to 2019.3 because it wouldn't be available. Before I did, I also made a copy of my 2019.2.1 configuration, specifically for DecTalk. Someone please port this to 2019.3+ if you can... seriously. I love the singing functionality.


Re: DECtalk Synthesizer

Jesse Farquharson
 

I tried NV Speech Player for all of five minutes. Could hardly understand a word. And as far as I know, it doesn't sing either.


Re: DECtalk Synthesizer

 

Has anyone here tried the NV Speech Player Add-On?
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: DECtalk Synthesizer

Jesse Farquharson
 

I desperately hope there is. I held off upgrading to 2019.3 because it wouldn't be available. Before I did, I also made a copy of my 2019.2.1 configuration, specifically for DecTalk. Someone please port this to 2019.3+ if you can... seriously. I love the singing functionality.


Re: DECtalk Synthesizer

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Diddo. I want it also.

On 8/19/2020 3:04 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
Can you send me the link to get DecTalk?  I didn't see one on this list. I had a DecTalk add on for NVDA but it no longer works. If you have a new one, I'd love to have it.
Roger







On 8/19/2020 1:24 PM, brian wrote:
I down loaded the one that was posted today.

Brian Sackrider

On 8/19/2020 2:22 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:
Which DECtalk do you have? I'm eagerly awaiting an update to the USB driver for the DECtalk Plus I think it's called.


On 8/19/2020 2:15 PM, brian wrote:
I just tried deck talk and it's the same that I had on my reading edge. All the same voices are there. They alll sound just the way that they did back then.

Brian Sackrider







Re: DECtalk Synthesizer

Don H
 

So is there a dectalk syn that works with the latest nvda on Win 10?

On 8/19/2020 2:19 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Gentlemen, I have retitled this topic to DECtalk synthesizer for archive purposes.  It is DECtalk, there is no 'k' after that 'C' in DEC, as it was developed by Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) in the early 1980s (may they rest in peace, DEC equipment was the first computing equipment I ever worked on).

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: DECtalk Synthesizer

 

Gentlemen, I have retitled this topic to DECtalk synthesizer for archive purposes.  It is DECtalk, there is no 'k' after that 'C' in DEC, as it was developed by Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) in the early 1980s (may they rest in peace, DEC equipment was the first computing equipment I ever worked on).

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Re: DECtalk Synthesizer

Roger Stewart
 

Can you send me the link to get DecTalk?  I didn't see one on this list. I had a DecTalk add on for NVDA but it no longer works. If you have a new one, I'd love to have it.
Roger

On 8/19/2020 1:24 PM, brian wrote:
I down loaded the one that was posted today.

Brian Sackrider

On 8/19/2020 2:22 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:
Which DECtalk do you have? I'm eagerly awaiting an update to the USB driver for the DECtalk Plus I think it's called.


On 8/19/2020 2:15 PM, brian wrote:
I just tried deck talk and it's the same that I had on my reading edge. All the same voices are there. They alll sound just the way that they did back then.

Brian Sackrider





Re: DECtalk Synthesizer

Don H
 

I think I am missing something here.  Is there a decktalk that works on Win 10 and NVDA?

On 8/19/2020 1:24 PM, brian wrote:
I down loaded the one that was posted today.

Brian Sackrider

On 8/19/2020 2:22 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:
Which DECtalk do you have? I'm eagerly awaiting an update to the USB driver for the DECtalk Plus I think it's called.


On 8/19/2020 2:15 PM, brian wrote:
I just tried deck talk and it's the same that I had on my reading edge. All the same voices are there. They alll sound just the way that they did back then.

Brian Sackrider







Re: Beginner's course in Python

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Thanks,

 

Ill keep those references by me. I am actually about to get started with Think Python! I like the approach and so, here goes!

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Fawaz Abdul rahman
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2020 7:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Beginner's course in Python

 

Hi, exploring data with python is a really good book for beginners.

if you don’t want much examples, and you are good with programming may be you can checkout learn python book by tutorial points.

Also I heard thinking python is a really good one as well but I haven’t read it yet.

Good luck.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2020 11:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Beginner's course in Python

 

Hi everyone,

 

I would like to learn Python. I am developed in a few other programming languages but I would like to start from scratch. I would also not like to teach myself but to participate in a group learning experience.

 

I wonder if anyone can advise me how best to proceed?

 

I would be happy with an online course, fee-paying or free, from any country as long as it is conducted in English and is fully accessible with NVDA.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com