The DragAndDrop add-on by Javi Dominguez and collaborators is not an "official" add-on.  It's managed under GitHub, like many unofficial add-ons are.

The latest version is 2.0.1dev and can be downloaded from this page:  https://github.com/javidominguez/DragAndDrop/releases/tag/2.0.1dev 
The direct download link is:  https://github.com/javidominguez/DragAndDrop/releases/download/2.0.1dev/DragAndDrop-2.0.1dev.nvda-addon 

I don't know anything about this add-on beyond what I've written here.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

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There is an add-on DragAndDrop.
It would be better if someone could provide a download link.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 05:11 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Unlike things such as Action Center, clipboard history is really an overlay window, so it will try its best to not steal system focus and caret.

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And from a design perspective, that puts up a situation where, as I've said earlier in other contexts, it's impossible for a screen reader to "be looking at two things at once."  One of my Gmail tutorials gets into this with a control that appears at the same time as something else, and that something else is what ends up getting initial focus and you'd never know the new control is there unless you can see it or are willing to traverse the entire page by brute force.

Trying to decide how to shift focus "without losing your place" has got to be more than a bit of a challenge.  It seems to me that mouse-over blurbs and this situation with Clipboard History have at least a little in common.

I don't envy trying to make the decisions necessary to solve some of these "where should I focus" and where is the system focusing conundrums.  That is one of the inherent problems when trying to access a medium designed for one sensory modality, sight, via a substitute.  You've put it best, Joseph, with your coinage of the term "information blackout" secondary to the fact that a screen reader can't deal with multiple changes presented simultaneously with any kind of ease.  And you are the one who made me realize just how much those of us with sight take in the entire visual field of "the screen" as a whole, picking up on changes that occur because they are state changes from "the normal."  It's not that this information cannot be accessed at all, but no matter what one chooses to do as far as "who goes first" that means everything else is in a black box, and the timing of dealing with it is broken up into some arbitrary way.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

Regarding your second question, yes. You should be able to use standard mouse control keys while in the OCR result to do this. I would encourage you to take a look at sections 5.7 (Navigating with the Mouse) and 10 (Content Recognition) of the NVDA user guide (NVDA menu > Help > User Guide).

Hi,

No. The post I wrote a few hours ago explains why, but just to recap: this is due to the way clipboard history (and in general, how modern keyboard) interface is designed from the beginning. Unlike things such as Action Center, clipboard history is really an overlay window, so it will try its best to not steal system focus and caret.

Cheers,

Joseph

Joseph,

Thank you for your excellent work with Microsoft on our behalf! I have recently enabled Clipboard History on my PC running windows 10 latest update. Is there any way to get NVDA to see the ellipses at the edge of each entry in the Clipboard History? I can access delete by hitting the Delete button on my external keyboard. However, I would like to be able to pin some items and explore some of the other options that are on the drop down menu under the ellipses. Is there any way to do so?

Hi,

Actually, when you do tab through clipboard history interface, an overlay cursor may appear to move. Same goes with opening the clipboard history context menu where the three options mentioned by Brian can be found.

I investigated ways to support announcing additional interface items at least twice, the most recent being a few months ago. Each time, a fix led to unacceptable experiences and regressions. Part of this has to do with the way modern keyboard interface is designed (note that I use the term “modern keyboard” to refer to emoji panel, clipboard history, dictation, modern input method editor interfaces and such). Being an overlay window, modern keyboard does not raise events which allows NVDA to automatically announce what’s focused, and once closed, Windows does not tell NVDA that the overlay window is closed properly. This results in NVDA forgetting what you were working on when modern keyboard interface is closed, forcing you to switch apps. The fix does allow you to review additional controls at the cost of hunting for what you were doing last, which to me is unacceptable. The focus issue is the main reason why I told Microsoft to look into usability issues with modern keyboard interface changes in recent Insider Preview builds, as the new interface isn’t working with NVDA (thankfully, the latest Insider Preview build does restore the stable emoji panel interface that does work with NVDA).

Cheers,

Joseph

Hi Brian,

the problem is that on my system tabbing doesn't get me to those options.  All I can do is cursor through the entries in the history and press spacebar to paste that entry or hit delete to delete it.

Thanks.

Dan Beaver

Dan,

           The three options "per item on clipboard history" are Delete (this item), Delete All, and Pin.  It's no surprise that a straight hit of the Delete key deletes the single item.  I wonder if a CTRL+ or ALT+ might do a Delete all?  I have no idea what might do a Pin.

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It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 

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Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)

Joseph,

Thank you for your excellent work with Microsoft on our behalf! I have recently enabled Clipboard History on my PC running windows 10 latest update. Is there any way to get NVDA to see the ellipses at the edge of each entry in the Clipboard History? I can access delete by hitting the Delete button on my external keyboard. However, I would like to be able to pin some items and explore some of the other options that are on the drop down menu under the ellipses. Is there any way to do so?

Hi,

Actually, when you do tab through clipboard history interface, an overlay cursor may appear to move. Same goes with opening the clipboard history context menu where the three options mentioned by Brian can be found.

I investigated ways to support announcing additional interface items at least twice, the most recent being a few months ago. Each time, a fix led to unacceptable experiences and regressions. Part of this has to do with the way modern keyboard interface is designed (note that I use the term “modern keyboard” to refer to emoji panel, clipboard history, dictation, modern input method editor interfaces and such). Being an overlay window, modern keyboard does not raise events which allows NVDA to automatically announce what’s focused, and once closed, Windows does not tell NVDA that the overlay window is closed properly. This results in NVDA forgetting what you were working on when modern keyboard interface is closed, forcing you to switch apps. The fix does allow you to review additional controls at the cost of hunting for what you were doing last, which to me is unacceptable. The focus issue is the main reason why I told Microsoft to look into usability issues with modern keyboard interface changes in recent Insider Preview builds, as the new interface isn’t working with NVDA (thankfully, the latest Insider Preview build does restore the stable emoji panel interface that does work with NVDA).

Cheers,

Joseph

Hi Brian,

the problem is that on my system tabbing doesn't get me to those options.  All I can do is cursor through the entries in the history and press spacebar to paste that entry or hit delete to delete it.

Thanks.

Dan Beaver

Dan,

           The three options "per item on clipboard history" are Delete (this item), Delete All, and Pin.  It's no surprise that a straight hit of the Delete key deletes the single item.  I wonder if a CTRL+ or ALT+ might do a Delete all?  I have no idea what might do a Pin.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 

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Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)

Hi,

Actually, when you do tab through clipboard history interface, an overlay cursor may appear to move. Same goes with opening the clipboard history context menu where the three options mentioned by Brian can be found.

I investigated ways to support announcing additional interface items at least twice, the most recent being a few months ago. Each time, a fix led to unacceptable experiences and regressions. Part of this has to do with the way modern keyboard interface is designed (note that I use the term “modern keyboard” to refer to emoji panel, clipboard history, dictation, modern input method editor interfaces and such). Being an overlay window, modern keyboard does not raise events which allows NVDA to automatically announce what’s focused, and once closed, Windows does not tell NVDA that the overlay window is closed properly. This results in NVDA forgetting what you were working on when modern keyboard interface is closed, forcing you to switch apps. The fix does allow you to review additional controls at the cost of hunting for what you were doing last, which to me is unacceptable. The focus issue is the main reason why I told Microsoft to look into usability issues with modern keyboard interface changes in recent Insider Preview builds, as the new interface isn’t working with NVDA (thankfully, the latest Insider Preview build does restore the stable emoji panel interface that does work with NVDA).

Cheers,

Joseph

Hi Brian,

the problem is that on my system tabbing doesn't get me to those options.  All I can do is cursor through the entries in the history and press spacebar to paste that entry or hit delete to delete it.

Thanks.

Dan Beaver

Dan,

           The three options "per item on clipboard history" are Delete (this item), Delete All, and Pin.  It's no surprise that a straight hit of the Delete key deletes the single item.  I wonder if a CTRL+ or ALT+ might do a Delete all?  I have no idea what might do a Pin.

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     ~ Kelley Boorn

 

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Hi,

I'm having problems using Acrobat Reader DC (hereafter titled ARDC) with
NVDA. It works great with JAWS, but when I have NVDA loaded and open a file
in ARDC, I don't get the message asking how I want the document presented as
far as accessibility goes. All I get is a frame, but no text. Do I need an
addon to make it work better, or are there some settings I need to adjust?

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Hi Brian,

the problem is that on my system tabbing doesn't get me to those options.  All I can do is cursor through the entries in the history and press spacebar to paste that entry or hit delete to delete it.

Thanks.

Dan Beaver

Dan,

           The three options "per item on clipboard history" are Delete (this item), Delete All, and Pin.  It's no surprise that a straight hit of the Delete key deletes the single item.  I wonder if a CTRL+ or ALT+ might do a Delete all?  I have no idea what might do a Pin.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 

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Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)