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Re: Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

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I thought the moderator was Brian Bird, or on the other hand if you have a nuclear reactor its that graphite stuff you chuck in to stop it going bang.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ján Kulik" <jan.kulik.szsle@outlook.sk>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft moderator VS NVDA


Moderator is a Microsoft interface narrator that you can use as sapi5. Thus, it is a Microsoft speech sapy5 narrator. in other words, it converts text to speech.
Therefore, I wonder if you are using Microsoft Narator or you prefer more NVDA.


Re: Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

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Its that famous spellink error of Narrrrrrator.
Brian!

grin
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Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft moderator VS NVDA


What is moderator?


From: Ján Kulik
Sent: 18 March 2019 21:31
To: win10@win10.groups.io; nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft moderator VS NVDA

Hi everyone,
I just want to know what voice program you use most often. NVDA or Moderator? I'm impressed with your opinion. It is true that when I used the Moderator program and went to browse the Google chrome website, for example Facebook, there is somewhat different than NVDA.
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Re: Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

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You mean narrator presumably. Well I do not have windows 10, but I find more third party software works better with nvda than with narrator on other peoples machines and its snappier and has the ability to be able to run add ons to extend it, but Narrator does not.
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To: <win10@win10.groups.io>; <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 9:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft moderator VS NVDA


Hi everyone,
I just want to know what voice program you use most often. NVDA or Moderator? I'm impressed with your opinion. It is true that when I used the Moderator program and went to browse the Google chrome website, for example Facebook, there is somewhat different than NVDA.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10


how to read notifications

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from mack when I start chrome, it takes me to my google inbox, which I am signed into. often times I get notifications that, this site has been updated in the background, and sometimes headlines. I went into settings and stopped a lot of that. but, what keystroke can I use to isolate the notification to read it, they go away so fast. using win 7 64 bit.


Re: weather plus addon

David Moore
 

Thank you so very much!

I will try that.

I did not delete my old cities before adding the new ones.

That is probably it.

Thank you so much!

David Moore

 

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From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 1:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] weather plus addon

 

Hi David,

 

I have seen this also.  It is usually rare that the statistics are so far off, but I did see it.  I am wondering: when I first installed the add on a week or so ago and when I added new cities, I did not at first delete the old ones that were incompatible with the new Apixu format.  This is when I had loads of trouble.  I don't know if this inaccuracy is related, but when I went through my list and painstakingly tested and then removed all the non functional city references, statistics got near normal again.

 

On 3/18/2019 5:23 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi!

I tried the weather plus add-on again today, and it says that the temperatures are much higher than they really are.

For example, in Columbus, it says the temp is 93 degrees.

All of the information is wrong for every city I check around the world.

I did everything correctly, changing everything to the knew API.

Is anyone having trouble in the United States with this?

Is anyone using the add-on in the united states who can tell me how the information for every city is being given to them?

Have a great one, guys, and thanks for what you are doing!

David Moore

 

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From: Don H
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 10:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] weather plus addon

 

I wonder if it is a simple case of decimal points being missed.

 

On 3/18/2019 9:05 AM, Richard Wells wrote:

> Yeah, I got wind speed out of the north-east at 88 miles per hour a

> couple days ago. It was totally calm outside. I don't think this is

> the fault of the add-on; it is most likely the data it is receiving

> which cannot be controlled by the author.

> On 3/18/2019 8:34 AM, Don H wrote:

>> I really appreciate all the effort that went into bring the weather

>> plus addon back.  Only issue I am having is that the information it

>> shows is randomly wrong. Examples are wind speeds, visibility, and

>> rainfall are wrong.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 

 

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Re: listing open windows with NVDA

Sean Murphy
 

Everyone,

 

Thank you for the suggestions. They were useful information but did not answer my question about floating windows. I think I am using a term which some people do not understand.

 

Windows tab only shows the applications currently open plus some historical information. If you have a floating window from an application. This does not appear here.

The task tray has nothing to do with the original question. But this was a useful command.

 

 

Let me try and explain again. I cannot tell you the name of the product as it is an internal program where I work and is not available to the general public. Thus why I am trying to find a solution to this issue. The true solution is for the dev’s to fix the issue. 😊

 

You open this program. Lets say you press ctrl o to open a dialog. The dialog does not receive keyboard focus. Visually you can see the dialog and object Nav takes a lot of keystrokes to find it, if you are lucky. As the object might or might not have a title.

 

Windows tab, alt tab and pressing f11 do not show the dialog. As stated before, Jaws isnert+f10 and all application windows and any other open windows (dialogs) are listed. This is the feature I am issing from NVDA being able to access this. Mac also has the same feature when you open the open windows vo shift f2 from memory. From this discussion, it appears NVDA cannot do this by default.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, 18 March 2019 3:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] listing open windows with NVDA

 

Oh, then actually this does the same thing that the add-on does? Good to know :)


Cheers,
Marcio

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Em 17/03/2019 11:37, George McCoy escreveu:

You can get the same result without the add-on.  In windows 10, go to the desktop.  Tab four times to the task view button and click it.

 

George

On 3/15/2019 4:01 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

Oh, then that's it.

I don't use this add-on. :)


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Em 15/03/2019 18:04, Gene escreveu:

Evidently, you need to use the system tray add-on to do this.  I use the add-on but I don't use a new version.  All I want is to get the system tray dialog.  there is evidently an updated version that adds this other feature if you issue the NVDA key f11 command twice.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 3:49 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] listing open windows with NVDA

 

Guys, are you sure this is a built-in NVDA command?

Here it doesn't do anything at all.


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Em 15/03/2019 15:04, Ralf Kefferpuetz escreveu:

NVDA + F11 twice basicly shows the task bar with all programs on the task bar, the opened ones and the not opened ones which are just shortcuts pinned there for fast opening.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Freitag, 15. März 2019 16:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] listing open windows with NVDA
 
Jaws+F10 is equivalent to NVDA+F11 twice...
 
Rui
 
 
Às 05:00 de 15/03/2019, Gerardo Corripio escreveu:
SisTray isn’t the one you’re trying to think of its name? With this 
one,
NVDA+F11 twice brings up the Task ist, but I don’t think this is what 
NVDA+is
being wanted to be done? What’s wanted to be done is like Jaws’s
Jaws+F10, which would be an awesome feature to have!
 
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El 14 mar 2019, a la(s) 10:30 p. m., marcio via Groups.Io 
<marcinhorj21@...
<mailto:marcinhorj21@...>> escribió:
 
If I'm not going wrong, there was an add-on that would allow us to 
see all the windows opened at the time, including, I think, those you 
are talking about.
 
I don't remember the add-on's name, though. Sorry :(
 
 
Cheers,
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Em 13/03/2019 04:48, mhysnm1964@... escreveu:
All,
 
How do you find floating windows with NVDA other than using the 
object nav? In Jaws there is a hot key that shows all open app and 
windows. I cannot find a similar command.
 
A floating window for those who might not know the terminology. Is a 
window that is open by a program and is not attached to the program 
and some of them are not even attached to the application ring (alt 
tab). If the program does not place the focus correctly into the 
window. Then you cannot access the window by the keyboard. Thus the 
workaround which Jaws provides of listing all the windows helps here.
 
Hope someone can help.
 
Second question, just thought of. Are you able to remap keys in NVDA?
 


Re: Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

cisco
 

Yeah, that’s what I do too.

On Mar 19, 2019, at 12:19 AM, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@gmail.com> wrote:

Narrator is okay. I only use it if I need to do a reinstall of windows, or I
occasionally play around with it my tablet. But otherwise I use NVDA.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 6:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft moderator VS NVDA

You do mean Narrator? NVDA 99 percent of the time, then Narrator.

On 3/18/2019 2:31 PM, J�n Kulik wrote:
Hi everyone,

I just want to know what voice program you use most often. NVDA or
Moderator? I'm impressed with your opinion. It is true that when I
used the Moderator program and went to browse the Google chrome
website, for example Facebook, there is somewhat different than NVDA.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10







Re: weather plus addon

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi David,


I have seen this also.  It is usually rare that the statistics are so far off, but I did see it.  I am wondering: when I first installed the add on a week or so ago and when I added new cities, I did not at first delete the old ones that were incompatible with the new Apixu format.  This is when I had loads of trouble.  I don't know if this inaccuracy is related, but when I went through my list and painstakingly tested and then removed all the non functional city references, statistics got near normal again.


On 3/18/2019 5:23 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi!

I tried the weather plus add-on again today, and it says that the temperatures are much higher than they really are.

For example, in Columbus, it says the temp is 93 degrees.

All of the information is wrong for every city I check around the world.

I did everything correctly, changing everything to the knew API.

Is anyone having trouble in the United States with this?

Is anyone using the add-on in the united states who can tell me how the information for every city is being given to them?

Have a great one, guys, and thanks for what you are doing!

David Moore

 

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From: Don H
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 10:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] weather plus addon

 

I wonder if it is a simple case of decimal points being missed.

 

On 3/18/2019 9:05 AM, Richard Wells wrote:

> Yeah, I got wind speed out of the north-east at 88 miles per hour a

> couple days ago. It was totally calm outside. I don't think this is

> the fault of the add-on; it is most likely the data it is receiving

> which cannot be controlled by the author.

> On 3/18/2019 8:34 AM, Don H wrote:

>> I really appreciate all the effort that went into bring the weather

>> plus addon back.  Only issue I am having is that the information it

>> shows is randomly wrong. Examples are wind speeds, visibility, and

>> rainfall are wrong.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 

 

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Does NVDA support for Bong VarioPro80 braille display?

 

Hi all
Does NVDA support for Bong VarioPro80 braille display? I did a google search and found a site for downloading driver for NVDA, but the given link direct me to a page in German language I guess, and I don't understand the page. If NVDA supports this display, please share me the driver if you have one.
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NVDA and Excel 2016

 

Hi all,
I noticed that, while using Excel 2016 (not Excel 365), NVDA fails to read some dialog boxes/windows, for example the Solver result window.
I noticed this while using Solver to solve some linear programming problems at my college. The computers there have Excel 2016, apparently somewhat an older build compared to the one installed on my personal laptop.
Is this a NVDA bug? If so will this be fixed in the 2019.1 release of NVDA?


Re: Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

molly the blind tech lover
 

Narrator is okay. I only use it if I need to do a reinstall of windows, or I
occasionally play around with it my tablet. But otherwise I use NVDA.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 6:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft moderator VS NVDA

You do mean Narrator? NVDA 99 percent of the time, then Narrator.

On 3/18/2019 2:31 PM, J�n Kulik wrote:
Hi everyone,

I just want to know what voice program you use most often. NVDA or
Moderator? I'm impressed with your opinion. It is true that when I
used the Moderator program and went to browse the Google chrome
website, for example Facebook, there is somewhat different than NVDA.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Re: Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

Ján Kulik
 

However, the behavior during site navigation is a bit different than NVDA. I wanted to get through the narrator to navigate the site so reading the links is almost the same as with NVDA but switching between the forms so Narator has a problem. At least that's how I see it.


Re: Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

Kevin Cussick
 

I am the same but at some point I will get down and dirty with narrator, as I have been meaning to do this folks, please remember Narrator is getting there it might b e a viable screen reader in a few versions of windows yet.

On 3/18/2019 10:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Most of the time I use NVDA but I have used narrator to get me out of jams from time to time.
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From: Don H
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 2:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA
Although Narrator is getting better NVDA still works much better on the things I do.
On 3/18/2019 4:49 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I have edited the topic here, and also on the Windows 10 forum, to reflect Narrator and NVDA.


trying to find an older message in the windows 10 mail app

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m trying to find an older message from a pen pal in the windows 10 mail app. How do you do a search?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

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Re: Learning page number in MS Word

Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...>
 

You don't need to number pages in Word in order for NVDA to read them. As you read through a document, you'll automatically hear the page numbers when navigating to the next page, whether you're using the Say All command or reading by line, paragraph, sentence, or other elements. As I said earlier, if you need to know what page you're on, simply press NVDA plus Home to read the status bar.
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Re: Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Most of the time I use NVDA but I have used narrator to get me out of jams from time to time.

 

 

 

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From: Don H
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 2:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

 

Although Narrator is getting better NVDA still works much better on the things I do.

On 3/18/2019 4:49 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

I have edited the topic here, and also on the Windows 10 forum, to reflect Narrator and NVDA.

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Re: Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

Brice Mijares
 

You do mean Narrator? NVDA 99 percent of the time, then Narrator.

On 3/18/2019 2:31 PM, J�n Kulik wrote:
Hi everyone,
I just want to know what voice program you use most often. NVDA or Moderator? I'm impressed with your opinion. It is true that when I used the Moderator program and went to browse the Google chrome website, for example Facebook, there is somewhat different than NVDA.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Re: Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

Don H
 

Although Narrator is getting better NVDA still works much better on the things I do.

On 3/18/2019 4:49 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I have edited the topic here, and also on the Windows 10 forum, to reflect Narrator and NVDA.

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Re: Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

 

I have edited the topic here, and also on the Windows 10 forum, to reflect Narrator and NVDA.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

Ján Kulik
 

Moderator is a Microsoft interface narrator that you can use as sapi5. Thus, it is a Microsoft speech sapy5 narrator. in other words, it converts text to speech.
Therefore, I wonder if you are using Microsoft Narator or you prefer more NVDA.