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OE Classic fixes list accessibility.

Robert Kingett
 

Glad to see they responded to feedback! Lists have been fixed in the version 3.1. This version isn't available for free users yet. My guess is, that when OE Classic 3.2 comes into beta, then free users will get 3.1. See below for links and emails.

This is an email client that's supposed to be a modern imitation of Outlook Express.. Profiles and IMAP is not supported in the free version yet.

The announcement email.

At last, we can announce a huge improvement for OE Classic accessibility.

Previously, OE Classic lists were unreadable by Jaws and NVDA (or other screen readers).

This is no longer the case!

Now, we've finally cracked the code required to properly announce and narrate those lists to a screen reader. This includes - message list (list of messages), contact list and the list of folders. We went through all the windows and it appears, that this affects all the windows which were previously blank to a screen reader. In addition to that, the names of the lists should now also be properly narrated (such as message list, tree view, followed by a list of actual messages).

Also, when keys are used to navigate (for example, arrow up/down) each individual item is narrated separately (which could be a folder name, a contact name or a subject line of a selected message) which is consistent with the standard message list.

This is a huge improvement for accessibility in OE Classic. Combined with the earlier improvement we did - message boxes, this will make OE Classic a whole lot more accessible. Even though there is still room for improvement which of course we'll continue to work upon, we believe that this one will make a significant difference for OE Classic users in their daily usage.

The new feature is available in OE Classic 3.1, today's update (2020, February 17th) so if you're using an older version, please update to use this feature.

Best regards, Zvonko Tesic
Re: Editing of Windows onecore voices

Sarah k Alawami
 

Can I add simviation some how to the 1core dictionary and not have it blow up any other synths I use, that's the only set of voices that cannot pronounce simviation correctly

By the way to know what that is google simviation's website. Anyway, my question still stand, I hope I can do this as we had a fun fight on twitch as I thought theeperson was spelling it wrong lol!

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

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Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 17 Feb 2020, at 9:28, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 11:48 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
cimviation
I can't find that word in any dictionary, but that's beside the point, as there's lots of jargon that doesn't appear in many general purpose dictionaries.

I can't think of a single synthesizer that pronounces everything correctly.  And that's but one of the reasons for the dictionary feature of most screen readers where you can substitute some phonetic spelling that, somehow, the synthesizer does produce correctly that's unrelated to the actual spelling of a given word.  I've had to do trial and error until I found a letter pattern that gave me the actual pronunciation I wanted for a low frequency word.
 
--

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       ~ Madonna

 

 
Re: web page objects that require the use of the mouse

Dan Beaver
 

I appreciate all the suggestions.  However, how does  one do this using a laptop?  Your keystroke suggestions are for a desktop layout not a laptop.


I have searched through the NVDA help and can find nothing about moving the screen cursor or system cursor to the currently focused object.


Maybe this can't be done on a laptop?


Thanks.


Dan Beaver (KA4FAN)

On 2/17/2020 3:22 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Dan,

I have answered this extensively on Blind Hams.


On 2/17/2020 11:38 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:

Hi all,


I am trying to get some info from a field on the page but it says to use the mouse to view. I have looked at the object navigation methods after the suggestion on another list but I still can't figure this one out.


If there are any hams on this list who use the qrz.com site and know how to get the email address of someone on qrz.com using NVDA I sure would appreciate some help.


Thanks.

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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
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Re: NVDA Add-ons for Foobar2000/FreeCommander XE?

Sarah k Alawami
 

You really don't need any nvda add ons for foobar. I use it all the time and it's very very accessible. You can set up keyboard shortcuts to do most of the tasks.

Take care

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 17 Feb 2020, at 10:08, Carlos wrote:

Hello All:

    Is anyone on this list aware of add-ons for Foobar2000, and FreeCommanderXE?

    Apologies to the moderators for posting this question here. However! When I asked this question on the chat list a few months ago I received no response!

    Thank You! In advance for all your responses and help!

👍

--
Carlos - Windows 10 Home, 64 Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 - NVDA Version 2019.3
Re: MP3 Direct Cut Chattering too Much with NVDA Add-On

Roger Stewart
 

I just tried mp3 Direct Cut using the latest nvda and the latest add on.  I'm not experiencing anything like this. It doesn't make a sound at all while just playing a file. It doesn't speak every second or anything else unless I stop it and then it tells me where I am as it has always done.
Roger






On 2/17/2020 2:21 PM, Gene wrote:

I really doubt it.  Context is important.  The person said this didn't happen with the previous version of the add-on.  The setting about background progress bars is off by default.  Also, this isn't a progress bar.  it’s a display showing the amount of elapsed time, displaying numbers as changing times, as I said not a progress bar.  the add-on is speaking every change of time is this display.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] MP3 Direct Cut Chattering too Much with NVDA Add-On

Hi


Maybe under object navigation menu then back ground Report background
progress bars.


or maybe also with shortcut nvda and U toogle to off.



Gene nz


On 18/02/2020 6:29 am, Rich DeSteno wrote:
> I just changed computers to Windows 10 and installed MP3 Direct Cut
> version 2.28 with the NVDDA add-on 19.12 from the NVDA add-on page. 
> Unlike my previous setup, this add-on chatters constantly with updates
> of the time elapsed as the MP3 plays.  It sounds like it announces the
> time every second, which of course, is way too often.  How do I
> silence this aspect of the add-on?
>
Re: web page objects that require the use of the mouse

Ron Canazzi
 

It works on QRZ.


On 2/17/2020 11:47 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:

NVDA key + numpad divide/slash key:

Moves the mouse pointer to the current navigator object


Not sure that will help on all webpages, but, HTH


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2020-02-17 06:38 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:

Hi all,


I am trying to get some info from a field on the page but it says to use the mouse to view. I have looked at the object navigation methods after the suggestion on another list but I still can't figure this one out.


If there are any hams on this list who use the qrz.com site and know how to get the email address of someone on qrz.com using NVDA I sure would appreciate some help.


Thanks.

-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
Re: web page objects that require the use of the mouse

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Dan,

I have answered this extensively on Blind Hams.


On 2/17/2020 11:38 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:

Hi all,


I am trying to get some info from a field on the page but it says to use the mouse to view. I have looked at the object navigation methods after the suggestion on another list but I still can't figure this one out.


If there are any hams on this list who use the qrz.com site and know how to get the email address of someone on qrz.com using NVDA I sure would appreciate some help.


Thanks.

-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
Re: MP3 Direct Cut Chattering too Much with NVDA Add-On

Gene
 

I really doubt it.  Context is important.  The person said this didn't happen with the previous version of the add-on.  The setting about background progress bars is off by default.  Also, this isn't a progress bar.  it’s a display showing the amount of elapsed time, displaying numbers as changing times, as I said not a progress bar.  the add-on is speaking every change of time is this display.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] MP3 Direct Cut Chattering too Much with NVDA Add-On

Hi


Maybe under object navigation menu then back ground Report background
progress bars.


or maybe also with shortcut nvda and U toogle to off.



Gene nz


On 18/02/2020 6:29 am, Rich DeSteno wrote:
> I just changed computers to Windows 10 and installed MP3 Direct Cut
> version 2.28 with the NVDDA add-on 19.12 from the NVDA add-on page. 
> Unlike my previous setup, this add-on chatters constantly with updates
> of the time elapsed as the MP3 plays.  It sounds like it announces the
> time every second, which of course, is way too often.  How do I
> silence this aspect of the add-on?
>
Re: start nvda at logon checkbox not working

Shaun Everiss
 

Hmph I can't replicate that issue.



On 18/02/2020 9:17 am, Richard Kuzma via Groups.Io wrote:

That is what I am talking about,

It does not work if you uncheck the box.

Thanks

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 3:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] start nvda at logon checkbox not working

 

Well uncheck the box, hit ok, exit nvda, then start nvda again.

I have tried this on my system and it works, nvda is not running at login eather just after it but I have turned all of them off and its ok so it should work.

 

 

On 18/02/2020 9:05 am, Richard Kuzma via Groups.Io wrote:

Good afternoon,

In the latest release of nvda if I uncheck the box to start nvda after logon, the program still automatically starts.

I have tried on two systems and same results.

Just ftyi,

Thanks,

Rich

 
Re: start nvda at logon checkbox not working

Richard Kuzma
 

That is what I am talking about,

It does not work if you uncheck the box.

Thanks

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 3:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] start nvda at logon checkbox not working

 

Well uncheck the box, hit ok, exit nvda, then start nvda again.

I have tried this on my system and it works, nvda is not running at login eather just after it but I have turned all of them off and its ok so it should work.

 

 

On 18/02/2020 9:05 am, Richard Kuzma via Groups.Io wrote:

Good afternoon,

In the latest release of nvda if I uncheck the box to start nvda after logon, the program still automatically starts.

I have tried on two systems and same results.

Just ftyi,

Thanks,

Rich

 
Re: NVDA Add-ons for Foobar2000/FreeCommander XE?

André
 

Hi Carlos!

Unfortunately, I don't even have an idea, what freeCommanderXp does, but their is a chapter in the official NVDA guide dedicated solely to foobar2000. So maybe you don't even need an add-on for that...

Best regards
Martin

On 17/02/2020 19:08, Carlos wrote:
Hello All:

    Is anyone on this list aware of add-ons for Foobar2000, and FreeCommanderXE?

    Apologies to the moderators for posting this question here. However! When I asked this question on the chat list a few months ago I received no response!

    Thank You! In advance for all your responses and help!


👍

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Re: start nvda at logon checkbox not working

Shaun Everiss
 

Well uncheck the box, hit ok, exit nvda, then start nvda again.

I have tried this on my system and it works, nvda is not running at login eather just after it but I have turned all of them off and its ok so it should work.



On 18/02/2020 9:05 am, Richard Kuzma via Groups.Io wrote:

Good afternoon,

In the latest release of nvda if I uncheck the box to start nvda after logon, the program still automatically starts.

I have tried on two systems and same results.

Just ftyi,

Thanks,

Rich

 
start nvda at logon checkbox not working

Richard Kuzma
 

Good afternoon,

In the latest release of nvda if I uncheck the box to start nvda after logon, the program still automatically starts.

I have tried on two systems and same results.

Just ftyi,

Thanks,

Rich

 
Re: profile triggers and what to do if NVDA does not automatically switch to previous profile (observed in alpha 19691 ...)

J.G
 

Hello,

it seems, that restart of NVDA solved a problem, so excuse me to spam a mailing list.

regards, Jožef

profile triggers and what to do if NVDA does not automatically switch to previous profile (observed in alpha 19691 ...)

J.G
 

Hello,

before I'm going open a ticket I would like to ask community in case I have missed something about profiles.

Some years ago I created profiles for applications and say all, which has been brought to NVDA 2019.3.1. And now everytime, when I stop a "say all", NVDA does not switch to previous profile for instance basic profile or app profile. In previous versions like 2019.2.1 it worked fine. It also have worked for some alphas ago. I cannot exactly determine, when it has stopped work. So what can I do to resolve a problem or is it a bug?

I use portable copy of alpha now on version 19691... on windows 10 1909.

thx for your responses.

regards, Jožef

Re: web page objects that require the use of the mouse

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Dan


With the golden cursor add on you can control the mouse with the arrow keys and do a few extras.


Gene nz


On 18/02/2020 5:38 am, Dan Beaver wrote:

Hi all,


I am trying to get some info from a field on the page but it says to use the mouse to view. I have looked at the object navigation methods after the suggestion on another list but I still can't figure this one out.


If there are any hams on this list who use the qrz.com site and know how to get the email address of someone on qrz.com using NVDA I sure would appreciate some help.


Thanks.

-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
Re: MP3 Direct Cut Chattering too Much with NVDA Add-On

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Maybe under object navigation menu then back ground Report background progress bars.


or maybe also with shortcut nvda and U toogle to off.



Gene nz

On 18/02/2020 6:29 am, Rich DeSteno wrote:
I just changed computers to Windows 10 and installed MP3 Direct Cut version 2.28 with the NVDDA add-on 19.12 from the NVDA add-on page.  Unlike my previous setup, this add-on chatters constantly with updates of the time elapsed as the MP3 plays.  It sounds like it announces the time every second, which of course, is way too often.  How do I silence this aspect of the add-on?
Re: NVDA/Jaws

Cecelia Rodriguez <cessbraille@...>
 

You can use NVDA remote you know.


On Feb 17, 2020, at 11:55 AM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:


If I have to switch to Jaws to tandem someone when I return to NVDA it feels very sluggish and I have to reboot my pc for it to be normal again. has anyone else had this experience?
******
Something to think about, Since God has forgiven it, who are you to keep picking it back up!

Re: Editing of Windows onecore voices

John Isige
 

Also, assuming she's talking about the flight simulator thingy, it's
simviation, with an 's', not a 'c'. OneCore pronounces the version
starting with an 's' correctly. It does indeed pronounce the version
with a 'c' pretty strangely, I'm honestly curious what processing makes
it do that because it makes no sense. But it's probably due to a
misspelling anyway, and if it's not, yes, dictionaries. NVDA even uses
synthesizer-specific ones for exactly this sort of situation.

On 2/17/2020 11:28, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 11:48 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

cimviation

I can't find that word in any dictionary, but that's beside the point,
as there's lots of jargon that doesn't appear in many general purpose
dictionaries.

I can't think of a single synthesizer that pronounces everything
correctly.  And that's but one of the reasons for the dictionary
feature of most screen readers where you can substitute some phonetic
spelling that, somehow, the synthesizer does produce correctly that's
unrelated to the actual spelling of a given word.  I've had to do
trial and error until I found a letter pattern that gave me the actual
pronunciation I wanted for a low frequency word.

--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*

       ~ Madonna
NVDA Add-ons for Foobar2000/FreeCommander XE?

Carlos
 

Hello All:

    Is anyone on this list aware of add-ons for Foobar2000, and FreeCommanderXE?

    Apologies to the moderators for posting this question here. However! When I asked this question on the chat list a few months ago I received no response!

    Thank You! In advance for all your responses and help!


👍


--
Carlos - Windows 10 Home, 64 Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 - NVDA Version 2019.3

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