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Re: can't read the what's new section in the help menu

Quentin Christensen
 

You're welcome, glad you got it sorted out!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 3:07 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Hi, Quentin,

 

I was able to fix the problem with the com registration tool. I first restarted the computer but that didn’t help so I fixed it with the com regristration tool. Thank you all for your help.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

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From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 9:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't read the what's new section in the help menu

 

Try restarting the PC - We often see odd things misbehaving in the time between updating and restarting.

 

If that doesn't fix it, do let us know, but next maybe try running the COM Registration fixing tool from the tools menu (NVDA+n then t).

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 2:51 PM Chris Smart <ve3rwj@...> wrote:

Firefox. 

 

Sent from Chris's iPhone.

 



On Sep 29, 2022, at 00:49, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:



Hi, Chris,

 

I was using Microsoft edge but I switched to google chrome. When I went to the what’s new section and hit enter, it went right to it in google chrome. What browser are you using?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Chris Smart
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 8:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't read the what's new section in the help menu

 

I just tried it here, and the web page opened in my browser. I’m running Windows 10 if that helps any.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: September 28, 2022 11:55 PM
To: Group Integration <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] can't read the what's new section in the help menu

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I wanted to read the what’s new section in the NVDA help menu. I hit insert N for the menu, hit the down arrow to the help section. Then I hit the right arrow to open it. When I hit enter on the what’s new section, I was taken back to the desktop instead of the what’s new section. What could be going on? I’m now running NVDA 2022.4 which is the latest version. Is there a setting I might need to change.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

 



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Training and Support Manager


Re: can't read the what's new section in the help menu

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Quentin,

 

I was able to fix the problem with the com registration tool. I first restarted the computer but that didn’t help so I fixed it with the com regristration tool. Thank you all for your help.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 9:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't read the what's new section in the help menu

 

Try restarting the PC - We often see odd things misbehaving in the time between updating and restarting.

 

If that doesn't fix it, do let us know, but next maybe try running the COM Registration fixing tool from the tools menu (NVDA+n then t).

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 2:51 PM Chris Smart <ve3rwj@...> wrote:

Firefox. 

 

Sent from Chris's iPhone.

 



On Sep 29, 2022, at 00:49, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:



Hi, Chris,

 

I was using Microsoft edge but I switched to google chrome. When I went to the what’s new section and hit enter, it went right to it in google chrome. What browser are you using?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Chris Smart
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 8:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't read the what's new section in the help menu

 

I just tried it here, and the web page opened in my browser. I’m running Windows 10 if that helps any.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: September 28, 2022 11:55 PM
To: Group Integration <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] can't read the what's new section in the help menu

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I wanted to read the what’s new section in the NVDA help menu. I hit insert N for the menu, hit the down arrow to the help section. Then I hit the right arrow to open it. When I hit enter on the what’s new section, I was taken back to the desktop instead of the what’s new section. What could be going on? I’m now running NVDA 2022.4 which is the latest version. Is there a setting I might need to change.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

 


Re: can't read the what's new section in the help menu

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Thanks. Got it.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Chris Smart
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 9:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't read the what's new section in the help menu

 

Firefox. 

 

Sent from Chris's iPhone.

 



On Sep 29, 2022, at 00:49, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:



Hi, Chris,

 

I was using Microsoft edge but I switched to google chrome. When I went to the what’s new section and hit enter, it went right to it in google chrome. What browser are you using?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Chris Smart
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 8:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't read the what's new section in the help menu

 

I just tried it here, and the web page opened in my browser. I’m running Windows 10 if that helps any.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: September 28, 2022 11:55 PM
To: Group Integration <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] can't read the what's new section in the help menu

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I wanted to read the what’s new section in the NVDA help menu. I hit insert N for the menu, hit the down arrow to the help section. Then I hit the right arrow to open it. When I hit enter on the what’s new section, I was taken back to the desktop instead of the what’s new section. What could be going on? I’m now running NVDA 2022.4 which is the latest version. Is there a setting I might need to change.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

 

 


Re: can't read the what's new section in the help menu

Quentin Christensen
 

Try restarting the PC - We often see odd things misbehaving in the time between updating and restarting.

If that doesn't fix it, do let us know, but next maybe try running the COM Registration fixing tool from the tools menu (NVDA+n then t).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 2:51 PM Chris Smart <ve3rwj@...> wrote:
Firefox. 


Sent from Chris's iPhone.


On Sep 29, 2022, at 00:49, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:



Hi, Chris,

 

I was using Microsoft edge but I switched to google chrome. When I went to the what’s new section and hit enter, it went right to it in google chrome. What browser are you using?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Chris Smart
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 8:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't read the what's new section in the help menu

 

I just tried it here, and the web page opened in my browser. I’m running Windows 10 if that helps any.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: September 28, 2022 11:55 PM
To: Group Integration <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] can't read the what's new section in the help menu

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I wanted to read the what’s new section in the NVDA help menu. I hit insert N for the menu, hit the down arrow to the help section. Then I hit the right arrow to open it. When I hit enter on the what’s new section, I was taken back to the desktop instead of the what’s new section. What could be going on? I’m now running NVDA 2022.4 which is the latest version. Is there a setting I might need to change.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

 



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: can't read the what's new section in the help menu

Chris Smart
 

Firefox. 


Sent from Chris's iPhone.


On Sep 29, 2022, at 00:49, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:



Hi, Chris,

 

I was using Microsoft edge but I switched to google chrome. When I went to the what’s new section and hit enter, it went right to it in google chrome. What browser are you using?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Chris Smart
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 8:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't read the what's new section in the help menu

 

I just tried it here, and the web page opened in my browser. I’m running Windows 10 if that helps any.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: September 28, 2022 11:55 PM
To: Group Integration <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] can't read the what's new section in the help menu

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I wanted to read the what’s new section in the NVDA help menu. I hit insert N for the menu, hit the down arrow to the help section. Then I hit the right arrow to open it. When I hit enter on the what’s new section, I was taken back to the desktop instead of the what’s new section. What could be going on? I’m now running NVDA 2022.4 which is the latest version. Is there a setting I might need to change.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

 


Re: can't read the what's new section in the help menu

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Chris,

 

I was using Microsoft edge but I switched to google chrome. When I went to the what’s new section and hit enter, it went right to it in google chrome. What browser are you using?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Chris Smart
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 8:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't read the what's new section in the help menu

 

I just tried it here, and the web page opened in my browser. I’m running Windows 10 if that helps any.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: September 28, 2022 11:55 PM
To: Group Integration <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] can't read the what's new section in the help menu

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I wanted to read the what’s new section in the NVDA help menu. I hit insert N for the menu, hit the down arrow to the help section. Then I hit the right arrow to open it. When I hit enter on the what’s new section, I was taken back to the desktop instead of the what’s new section. What could be going on? I’m now running NVDA 2022.4 which is the latest version. Is there a setting I might need to change.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

 


Re: can't read the what's new section in the help menu

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Thanks for the tip about google chrome. I was hoping it would open in Microsoft edge but it didn’t work. Now I’m using google chrome as my default browser.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Monte Single
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 9:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't read the what's new section in the help menu

 

Hi Rosemarie,

 

I’m using  latest nvda and google chrome in newest win10  and the :what’s new:  feature opens   as a webpage.

Try once more for good luck.

 

Cheers,

 

Mont

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: September 28, 2022 9:55 PM
To: Group Integration <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] can't read the what's new section in the help menu

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I wanted to read the what’s new section in the NVDA help menu. I hit insert N for the menu, hit the down arrow to the help section. Then I hit the right arrow to open it. When I hit enter on the what’s new section, I was taken back to the desktop instead of the what’s new section. What could be going on? I’m now running NVDA 2022.4 which is the latest version. Is there a setting I might need to change.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

 


Re: can't read the what's new section in the help menu

Monte Single
 

Hi Rosemarie,

 

I’m using  latest nvda and google chrome in newest win10  and the :what’s new:  feature opens   as a webpage.

Try once more for good luck.

 

Cheers,

 

Mont

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: September 28, 2022 9:55 PM
To: Group Integration <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] can't read the what's new section in the help menu

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I wanted to read the what’s new section in the NVDA help menu. I hit insert N for the menu, hit the down arrow to the help section. Then I hit the right arrow to open it. When I hit enter on the what’s new section, I was taken back to the desktop instead of the what’s new section. What could be going on? I’m now running NVDA 2022.4 which is the latest version. Is there a setting I might need to change.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


Re: can't read the what's new section in the help menu

Chris Smart
 

I just tried it here, and the web page opened in my browser. I’m running Windows 10 if that helps any.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: September 28, 2022 11:55 PM
To: Group Integration <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] can't read the what's new section in the help menu

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I wanted to read the what’s new section in the NVDA help menu. I hit insert N for the menu, hit the down arrow to the help section. Then I hit the right arrow to open it. When I hit enter on the what’s new section, I was taken back to the desktop instead of the what’s new section. What could be going on? I’m now running NVDA 2022.4 which is the latest version. Is there a setting I might need to change.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


can't read the what's new section in the help menu

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,

 

I wanted to read the what’s new section in the NVDA help menu. I hit insert N for the menu, hit the down arrow to the help section. Then I hit the right arrow to open it. When I hit enter on the what’s new section, I was taken back to the desktop instead of the what’s new section. What could be going on? I’m now running NVDA 2022.4 which is the latest version. Is there a setting I might need to change.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


News – NV Access - NVDA 2022.2.4 Released #nvaccessnewsfeed

Group Integration <nvda@...>
 

NVDA 2022.2.4 Released

By Sean Budd

NV Access is pleased to announce that version 2022.2.4 of NVDA, the free screen reader for Microsoft Windows, is now available for download. This is a security patch release to fix an exploit where it was possible to open the NVDA python console via the log viewer on the lock screen. We encourage all users to upgrade to this version.

Please note that as this is a patch release, the “What’s new” text has not been translated for this release. Users running NVDA in languages other than English, accessing the “What’s new” text from the Help menu will show the latest version as 2022.2. The correct current version can always be found in the “About NVDA” dialog, available from the Help menu.

Security fixes

Please responsibly disclose potential security issues to info@... following our security policy.

This issued affected Windows 10 and 11. It was possible to run the NVDA python console from the lock screen. These exploits could only occur from the lock screen, not the secure sign-in screen where your password is entered.

To prevent this issue using earlier versions of NVDA, disable the Windows lock screen. Instructions to do so can be found in the workarounds section of this older security advisory. Technical details for the security issue will be made available in this yet to be released advisory.

For further information, please contact NV Access via info@....

Important Note:

Please note, after updating any software, it is a good idea to restart the computer. Restart by going to the Shutdown dialog, selecting “restart” and pressing ENTER. Updating software can change files which are in use. This can lead to instability and strange behaviour which is resolved by rebooting. This is the first thing to try if you do notice anything odd after updating.

Links

Close-up photograph of NVDA logo in notification area.

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locked Re: rolling back NVDA for BrowserNav add-on

 

Bob, 

I already told you, explicitly, that this assertion is incorrect, because it is incorrect, and gave you a direct link to BrowserNav version 2.4, which is compatible with NVDA 2022.X.   Here was the post, verbatim:
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On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 11:25 AM, Robert Logue wrote:
Browser-Nav is not supported in the latest versions of NVDA.
-
That is incorrect.  I do not know why the information on the community webpage has not been updated, but BrowserNav for NVDA 2022.x is definitely available via the Spanish NVDA Add-Ons Catalog.  Direct link to the add-on page: browsernav 2.4 (stable)

Also, it's the same version of BrowserNav that downloads from the Community Add-Ons page, so it's definitely a case of the compatibility information not having been updated, not the Add-On itself not having been updated.

Brief description page:  BrowserNav
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This topic is now locked.  There will be no spreading of misinformation about compatibility issues on this group.
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locked rolling back NVDA for BrowserNav add-on

Robert Logue
 

I updated NVDA and lost BrowserNav add-on.  I want to role back to the latest version of NVDA where Browser-Nav works.


The author shows it's compatible to 2019.1.


It is working on another system running(NVDA)
Version: 2021.3.1. About in NVDA help doesnt show the version number?

File property version; 2021.3.1.24395



What is the latest version of NVDA that will run this?  I think it needs Python 2 but am not sure what changed that it doesn't work now.


Thanks.


Bob


Re: Beginning basic programming with Python and nvda

jamie coady
 

If I wanted to start learning how to program in it where would be a good place to go on the net to learn?

 

 

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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 28 September 2022 18:17
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Beginning basic programming with Python and nvda

 

On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 12:56 PM, multi 85 wrote:

. . . what NVDA settings would you recommend I change or have? So, I have heard I should put the punctuation to all, I should let it notify me of indented text, any others?

-
I'm sorry I have no answer, but I just had to give you a compliment about having posed an absolutely marvelous question that pulls in both NVDA and programming syntax!
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Memory is a crazy woman that hoards rags and throws away food.

         ~ Austin O'Malley

 


locked Re: From the JFW User's list (yes, there is a direct NVDA tie in): How to stop jaws from interfering with an application's keyboard commands

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

All I can say on this subject (I'm not really sure if its relevant) is that on occasion I have an accidental running of both NVDA and JAWS and it ain't pretty. I use a desktop primarily and with the insert key as the modifier for both programs, it is total chaos. I have to press the JAWS pass through key which doesn't conflict with NVDA and then use the insert + N keystroke to invoke the NVDA menu and exit the program.


On 9/28/2022 10:51 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 12:39 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
I think the closest is sleep mode attribute in app modules.
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Joseph,

Thank you for this, truly.

But the claims being made are about "out of the box" behavior of both JAWS and NVDA, and those claims about both are equally inaccurate, which is where the real problem lies.

I refuse to go down the rabbit-hole of "what-if-ism" when it comes to assisting with any given program because so few people ever change any of the default settings, and those that do will most often note what they have changed if they believe it is, or might be, germane to the issue(s) at hand.  At the same time, I also refuse to go down the rabbit hole of trying to answer what are very complex questions without a test situation to use that is clearly defined.  And if anyone seeking assistance can't at least tell you what program it is that they are having difficulty accessing, but instead say something like "when I'm playing a game," and refuse to clarify, then I'm out.  Anyone with any common sense and experience is out, because you can't fix an abstraction, only a situation (which can sometimes be generalized, and other times not).

The original poster has pretty much gone away after I pushed back, and not a single other person involved could make any sense of what he (I think) was saying.
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Memory is a crazy woman that hoards rags and throws away food.

         ~ Austin O'Malley


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Re: Beginning basic programming with Python and nvda

Devin Prater
 

Yep, I love how easy it is to set those kinds of things. Just Insert + Control + D for document formatting, then Alt + I for indentation, arrow to what you want, Enter, and boom you're done.
Devin Prater




On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 12:17 PM Jacob Kruger <jacob@...> wrote:

Biggest thing to do with indentation change announcement is I have mine set to tones, and, not speaking out indentation level since this might, at times, interfere with it reading out code itself, and, will take too long for me.


This is also since it's more important to know that indentation levels have increased or decreased, as opposed to knowing full/specific level all of the time.

And, this is under document formatting category in NVDA settings - I just set it to tones only.


In notepad++, if you install the NVDA notepad++ add-on, you can also have it interact slightly better with the interface, and, use shift+NVDA+\ to have it announce cursor position:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/notepadPlusPlus.en.html


Also, if using notepad++, then, besides double-checking that it is switching to the python language in terms of language menu, etc., good luck with installing it's own forms of plugins - that part of it's own interface is not perfect, but, the one specific one I have installed is the Python Indent plugin, which then tries to handle increasing indentation in code blocks sort of automatically:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/kered13-notepad-plugins/files/Python%20Indent%20Win32%20v1.0.0.4.zip


Along the lines of that, while not sure if it's best, I use the 32-bit version of notepad++ on my windows 10 64 bit machine.


That means, if I get hold of, and archive the .zip files for plugins, I sort of copy their contents into the c:\Program Files (x86)\notepad++\plugins folder:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Notepad++\plugins


There, the .dll file must be inside a sub-folder with a matching name - but, this might be going a little too off-topic for this NVDA list for now - sorry.


Anyway, I pulled that download link off the following notepad++ 32-bit plugins listing page:

https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/nppPluginList/blob/master/doc/plugin_list_x86.md


Sorry to list admins if too much here.


Jacob Kruger
+2782 413 4791
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2022/09/28 18:56, multi 85 wrote:
Sort of on this topic as well, Jacob mentioned some of what he does,
but, for those who are programming in Python, so that I don't have to
learn the hard way, what NVDA settings would you recommend I change or
have? So, I have heard I should put the punctuation to all, I should
let it notify me of indented text, any others?

On 9/28/22, Angelo Sonnesso <asonnesso@...> wrote:
Thanks I am just getting started with Python.





73 N2DYN Angelo



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 10:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Beginning basic programming with Python and nvda



On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 10:35 AM, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:

What editor do you recommend?

-
In the Windows world, notepad++ (and versions of that may exist for Linux or
Mac, but I'm not digging for that info at the moment).

One of its menus is the Language menu and the number of languages for which
it has syntax support are far too numerous to list here.  Python happens to
be the last entry in the submenu under P in the Language menu.
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Memory is a crazy woman that hoards rags and throws away food.

         ~ Austin O'Malley











Re: Beginning basic programming with Python and nvda

 

On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 12:56 PM, multi 85 wrote:
. . . what NVDA settings would you recommend I change or have? So, I have heard I should put the punctuation to all, I should let it notify me of indented text, any others?
-
I'm sorry I have no answer, but I just had to give you a compliment about having posed an absolutely marvelous question that pulls in both NVDA and programming syntax!
--

Brian Virginia, USA  Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Memory is a crazy woman that hoards rags and throws away food.

         ~ Austin O'Malley


Re: Beginning basic programming with Python and nvda

Jacob Kruger
 

Biggest thing to do with indentation change announcement is I have mine set to tones, and, not speaking out indentation level since this might, at times, interfere with it reading out code itself, and, will take too long for me.


This is also since it's more important to know that indentation levels have increased or decreased, as opposed to knowing full/specific level all of the time.

And, this is under document formatting category in NVDA settings - I just set it to tones only.


In notepad++, if you install the NVDA notepad++ add-on, you can also have it interact slightly better with the interface, and, use shift+NVDA+\ to have it announce cursor position:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/notepadPlusPlus.en.html


Also, if using notepad++, then, besides double-checking that it is switching to the python language in terms of language menu, etc., good luck with installing it's own forms of plugins - that part of it's own interface is not perfect, but, the one specific one I have installed is the Python Indent plugin, which then tries to handle increasing indentation in code blocks sort of automatically:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/kered13-notepad-plugins/files/Python%20Indent%20Win32%20v1.0.0.4.zip


Along the lines of that, while not sure if it's best, I use the 32-bit version of notepad++ on my windows 10 64 bit machine.


That means, if I get hold of, and archive the .zip files for plugins, I sort of copy their contents into the c:\Program Files (x86)\notepad++\plugins folder:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Notepad++\plugins


There, the .dll file must be inside a sub-folder with a matching name - but, this might be going a little too off-topic for this NVDA list for now - sorry.


Anyway, I pulled that download link off the following notepad++ 32-bit plugins listing page:

https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/nppPluginList/blob/master/doc/plugin_list_x86.md


Sorry to list admins if too much here.


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On 2022/09/28 18:56, multi 85 wrote:

Sort of on this topic as well, Jacob mentioned some of what he does,
but, for those who are programming in Python, so that I don't have to
learn the hard way, what NVDA settings would you recommend I change or
have? So, I have heard I should put the punctuation to all, I should
let it notify me of indented text, any others?

On 9/28/22, Angelo Sonnesso <asonnesso@...> wrote:
Thanks I am just getting started with Python.





73 N2DYN Angelo



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 10:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Beginning basic programming with Python and nvda



On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 10:35 AM, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:

What editor do you recommend?

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In the Windows world, notepad++ (and versions of that may exist for Linux or
Mac, but I'm not digging for that info at the moment).

One of its menus is the Language menu and the number of languages for which
it has syntax support are far too numerous to list here.  Python happens to
be the last entry in the submenu under P in the Language menu.
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Brian - Virginia, USA  - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

Memory is a crazy woman that hoards rags and throws away food.

         ~ Austin O'Malley














Re: Beginning basic programming with Python and nvda

multi 85
 

Sort of on this topic as well, Jacob mentioned some of what he does,
but, for those who are programming in Python, so that I don't have to
learn the hard way, what NVDA settings would you recommend I change or
have? So, I have heard I should put the punctuation to all, I should
let it notify me of indented text, any others?

On 9/28/22, Angelo Sonnesso <asonnesso@...> wrote:
Thanks I am just getting started with Python.





73 N2DYN Angelo



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 10:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Beginning basic programming with Python and nvda



On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 10:35 AM, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:

What editor do you recommend?

-
In the Windows world, notepad++ (and versions of that may exist for Linux or
Mac, but I'm not digging for that info at the moment).

One of its menus is the Language menu and the number of languages for which
it has syntax support are far too numerous to list here. Python happens to
be the last entry in the submenu under P in the Language menu.
--

Brian - Virginia, USA - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

Memory is a crazy woman that hoards rags and throws away food.

~ Austin O'Malley









Re: NVDA cursor automatically placed in conversations list in gMail standard view

Gene
 

Its good that the discussion clarified that.

Gene

On 9/28/2022 11:22 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 12:11 PM, Gene wrote:
But you talked about no one having an excuse to be surprised when it does.  To me, that implies a decision taken and implemented with little notice.

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Gene, to be clear, that's not what it's meant to imply.

But what it is meant to imply is that the vast majority of end users pay absolutely no attention to what any given software/service maker says about what they're planning, or telegraphs about what they're planning.  A very great deal of my work over the years has been of the variety where a lack of planning on the end user's part, and where the information for planning was made plain, repeatedly, over time was ignored resulting in a crisis.

I vividly remember the time, not long ago, when Verizon announced it was leaving the email business, many times over many months, and telling those using verizon.net addresses that they would be able to keep them but had to follow a step-by-step process to transfer them to actually being managed by AOL.  When the "drop dead" date finally came there was a "mass panic" that should never have been a mass panic where techs like myself were being called with the, "Oh my god, I just got a notice my verizon email address will be deactivated in 2 days, what can I do?!!" plaints.

This sort of thing has happened, again and again in my decades in this business.  Hence the reason I harp on not only paying attention to specific notices, which are not vague, but about what is telegraphed by how a given entity may make using "what I'm used to" a more and more complicated process than it once was.  That generally tells you that discontinuance will eventually occur.  And if you take the actions you need to so that you're ready when it does, that's what I'm trying to encourage.  It doesn't mean you need to dump something today, but you really should not be surprised when "discontinuance hints" have been being dropped over time, even in the absence of direct notices. 
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Brian Virginia, USA  Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

Memory is a crazy woman that hoards rags and throws away food.

         ~ Austin O'Malley