I tried going ahead and updating to the new Vocalizer Driver, but because
I’m still running NVDA’s latest stable version it won’t allow for the
update, thus I’ve several questions for when the time comes to update
myNVDA; I’m worried I’ll have to cope with a silent NVDA, and my family
doesn’t know much of technology or computers, to be able to if this should
arise, help me out in the meantime.

1.-What’s the best course of action, then when updating to the latest NVDA
when it comes out, so that I won’t be without a voice, when the NVDA runs?
If I install the Beta of NVDA in portable mode, and I update Vocalizer that
way, will the upgraded voice come up speaking when the actual stable NVDA IS
RELEASED?

2.-Because I’ve Vocalizer to run as my default voice, would you guys
recommend then maybe defaulting to a windows10 voice to be on the safe side,
and then update the Vocalizer Driver from that perspective?


Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

Don’t waste your time worrying!  Instead do good!  The Almighty is in control as he has always been.

May your lives always be blessed.

Pascal

Hmmm, I think we have to just wait and see.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hmph, do we honestly think anything new will actually happen immediately.

I read a celebratory article on this date in 2000 where the y2k bug was about.

A lot had been done to fix things.

All those suckers that got those y2k avoidence software packages, etc.

Yeah it could have been quite bad but we got on top of it.

Today I wake up to windows update taking ages to check for any update  though it eventually does and the net suddenly congested.

Its an election year which basically means which dumbo will we vote in and how long will they stay smart or not.

People always say we will have bigger and better things.

The climate and other protests continue to push us closer and closer to world war 3, another ression and maybe the net will fail according to some scary youtube video.

My friend who I was going to visit today is suddenly sick, half of australia is on fire, and jakata is flooding.

So maybe it will be the decade of bad luck.

    I think the reason that so many people think of this year as the start of a new decade is there is no more 19 they hear 20 and think a new set of 10 years has started.  We have started the decade of the 20's so we can say we are now in the 20's and not the teens.  People said the same thing back when y2k happend that the new decade would not start until 2001. This is the first year of the 20's so why not count it as such? 

Brian Sackrider

On 12/31/2019 10:16 PM, Oriana wrote:

Sir,

 

Thank you for your clarifying email. I would like to remind you that the year is only 2020 "anno Domini nostri Jesu Christi" in the Western Christian tradition, and is not based on an actually observable incident. Based on historical data, some have argued that the entire numbering system is as far off as 3 years from the census that supposedly took place right before Christ's birth. Also, the Julian/Gregorian calendar, which transfers from 1 BC (year of Christ's birth) to 1 AD (a baby Christ's first birthday?) without a year zero are not the only calendars to measure 2020 years from that point: several other Eastern and Western calendars count the years from 0, which corresponds to 1 BC in the Julian/Gregorian. Taking such discrepancies into consideration, it makes perfect sense to celebrate the birth of a new decade at year zero.

 

Yours respectfully,

Oriana

 

On Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 9:56 PM Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:

Hi group,

I will be ready to wish everybody a happy new decade in precisely one year from now.  The actual fact is that the new decade (the 2020's) does not scientifically start until 12:00 AM January 1, 2021.  The simple fact is that there is nor has there ever been a year zero.  Therefore, when you begin numbering years, it is just as if you are counting any object such as dollars, chickens or daffodils.  You don't have ten of them until you actually have ten in hand. 

Arthur C. Clark the author of 2001 A Space Odyssey predicted this in his 1968 novel of the same name, written concurrently with the production of Stanley Kubrick's movie production. 

In that book, Clark projects that people would celebrate the turn of the millennium on January 1, 2000 rather than when it should be celebrated on January 1, 2001.  This prediction came true--exactly as Clark described it.

So it is with this idea of the beginning of a decade.  So long story short: the decade ain't over until it's over on January 1, 2001.
 

On 12/31/2019 7:26 PM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:

Hi everyone,
I would like to wish all of you a great happy New Year. Hope you all had a good time celebrating with your friends or family. May the new decade be an amazing decade for all of you.

Welcome, 2020!

Supanut Leepaisomboon

BBA International Business

Mahidol University International College

 

-- 

They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.

They ask: "How Happy are You?"

I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

El 1 ene 2020, a la(s) 12:35 p.m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> escribió:



Thanks!

 

I understand now what have happened…

 

I have changed the link gave by Filezilla…

 

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.

 

De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Brian Vogel
Enviada: quarta-feira, 1 de janeiro de 2020 17:17
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Vocalizer expressive driver question

 

On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 10:26 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:

Very strange!

Rui,

        You've probably gotten two messages regarding my having edited your initial post, but that still wouldn't have explained the strangeness.  In the original, for some reason, the opening "ht" in your full link was not part of the link, and the remainder resolved to this:

                    ftp://tiflo@.../home/tiflo/html/Instal/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.0.nvda-addon

which does demand login.  The link you intended:

                    https://www.tiflotecnia.net/Instal/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.0.nvda-addon

does precisely what you said and thought it would.  Heaven only knows how that original bit came to pass, but I thought you would appreciate knowing exactly what had occurred.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 

Hmmm, I think we have to just wait and see.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hmph, do we honestly think anything new will actually happen immediately.

I read a celebratory article on this date in 2000 where the y2k bug was about.

A lot had been done to fix things.

All those suckers that got those y2k avoidence software packages, etc.

Yeah it could have been quite bad but we got on top of it.

Today I wake up to windows update taking ages to check for any update  though it eventually does and the net suddenly congested.

Its an election year which basically means which dumbo will we vote in and how long will they stay smart or not.

People always say we will have bigger and better things.

The climate and other protests continue to push us closer and closer to world war 3, another ression and maybe the net will fail according to some scary youtube video.

My friend who I was going to visit today is suddenly sick, half of australia is on fire, and jakata is flooding.

So maybe it will be the decade of bad luck.

    I think the reason that so many people think of this year as the start of a new decade is there is no more 19 they hear 20 and think a new set of 10 years has started.  We have started the decade of the 20's so we can say we are now in the 20's and not the teens.  People said the same thing back when y2k happend that the new decade would not start until 2001. This is the first year of the 20's so why not count it as such? 

Brian Sackrider

On 12/31/2019 10:16 PM, Oriana wrote:

Sir,

 

Thank you for your clarifying email. I would like to remind you that the year is only 2020 "anno Domini nostri Jesu Christi" in the Western Christian tradition, and is not based on an actually observable incident. Based on historical data, some have argued that the entire numbering system is as far off as 3 years from the census that supposedly took place right before Christ's birth. Also, the Julian/Gregorian calendar, which transfers from 1 BC (year of Christ's birth) to 1 AD (a baby Christ's first birthday?) without a year zero are not the only calendars to measure 2020 years from that point: several other Eastern and Western calendars count the years from 0, which corresponds to 1 BC in the Julian/Gregorian. Taking such discrepancies into consideration, it makes perfect sense to celebrate the birth of a new decade at year zero.

 

Yours respectfully,

Oriana

 

On Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 9:56 PM Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:

Hi group,

I will be ready to wish everybody a happy new decade in precisely one year from now.  The actual fact is that the new decade (the 2020's) does not scientifically start until 12:00 AM January 1, 2021.  The simple fact is that there is nor has there ever been a year zero.  Therefore, when you begin numbering years, it is just as if you are counting any object such as dollars, chickens or daffodils.  You don't have ten of them until you actually have ten in hand. 

Arthur C. Clark the author of 2001 A Space Odyssey predicted this in his 1968 novel of the same name, written concurrently with the production of Stanley Kubrick's movie production. 

In that book, Clark projects that people would celebrate the turn of the millennium on January 1, 2000 rather than when it should be celebrated on January 1, 2001.  This prediction came true--exactly as Clark described it.

So it is with this idea of the beginning of a decade.  So long story short: the decade ain't over until it's over on January 1, 2001.
 

On 12/31/2019 7:26 PM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:

Hi everyone,
I would like to wish all of you a great happy New Year. Hope you all had a good time celebrating with your friends or family. May the new decade be an amazing decade for all of you.

Welcome, 2020!

Supanut Leepaisomboon

BBA International Business

Mahidol University International College

 

-- 

They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.

They ask: "How Happy are You?"

I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

Telling anyone to avoid HTML e-mail at this point in history (and by avoid I don't mean changing how one might choose to view messages) is an exercise in futility, to put it mildly.  It can also result in a major loss of content and actual ease of access from many e-mail messages.

HTML format has been the de facto convention for a very long time now.  Most screen readers seem to do quite well with it, in my observation, and they'd have to since the vast majority of e-mail messages these days involve HTML formatting.

The HTML ship has sailed and the days of the plain-text dinghy are never coming back - at least if one wishes to conform oneself to the wider world as it is.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

Well, when my sound card died. Someone on this list said I can get a ten dollar usb sound card. I did find a place where they had them. I would have had to wait for a month to get a new card.  I was trying to complete my online food safe class.  Even if I wanted to get a new sound card. The people in the town called Nelson British Columbia Canada said I was better off just spending the bucks and getting a new computer.  I was glad I did.  I completed that on line class.  That’s when NVDA rocked.  It responded quicker then it did on my old win 7.  Even other usb ports were burned out on that system. When this person was moving my files off the 7 box. He told me there was about 2 or 3 ports that was burned out. 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

You may have such a problem again.  You don't need to spend any amount of money that matters.  You can get and use very inexpensive USB sound cards for ten U.S. dollars or less. 

, I don’t have a 7 box anymore, mine died late last February. It lost all soundand I probably would have needed a new sound card.  I didn’t want to spend the money getting a new sound card for an 8 year old 7 box.  It was becoming more and more unreliable. I was going to leave 7 anyway! I knew support would be running out soon.  I was just concerned for those who still use 7.   

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

MS will kill off support for WIN 7 on JAN 14^th so buy you a new machine if you got some bucks. You can use it, but you’ll not get security updates.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hi, I thought support is running out for windows 7.  When is Microsoft quitting support for windows 7?  I wonder if windows 7 is going to be like xp having no security on the net?  I personally don’t care if people still want to use it. If they do, they should just use it for checking mail. Or things you can do with it that you may not be able to do with ten.  Like audio programs like total recorder or using audio equipment such as taking audio from cassette tapes I know you can do it with xp.  If I had 7 I’d not do on line banking with it. 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hi.

I think there’s an ocr add-on that you might be able to use with windows 7. Try this link  . . .

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/ocr.en.html

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rana Ayaz
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 12:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda ocr addon

Thanks for response
But I want to use with window 7 32 bit

Here it is again.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/rg2y9qjvenjqfwi/01%20-%20In%20the%20year%202525.mp3?dl=0

> 

> 

> 

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

send me the link please please

On 1/2/20, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

> Yeah, we’re definitely having strange weather. I wonder if any of us will be

> around in the year 2525.

> 

> 

> 

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> 

> From: Arlene

> Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 9:37 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] something for you to enjoy

> 

> Yeah, look at how Global warming is in the news. We are having strange

> weather.  I wonder what this world will come and how our technology will

> become. Would NVDA be around in the year 2525?

> 

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> 

> From: Ron Canazzi

> Sent: January 1, 2020 7:45 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] something for you to enjoy

> 

> That's an oldie but a goodie.  I remember it well.

> It was one of the first environmental protest songs that made the pop

> charts. It actually hit number one in 1969 for a week or so.

> On 1/1/2020 6:16 PM, Arlene wrote:

> Hey this has something to do with this new decade.  Enjoy this for

> yourselves.  This will be up for a week. Then I’ll take it down. Happy

> listening!

> https://www.dropbox.com/s/rg2y9qjvenjqfwi/01%20-%20In%20the%20year%202525.mp3?dl=0

> 

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> 

> 

> --

> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.

> They ask: "How Happy are You?"

> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

> 

> 

Yes, it did come out in the summer of 1969.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

You are welcome. I have it too. I think I got it from Marty the oldies man.  You probably got it from the same man!  Some of the stuff is starting to come true. I mean worldly things.  Mind you I was too young when that song was out.  I was just a toddler.  I was almost 3. I think it came out in the summer of 1969. 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hi, Arleen,

I remember this song very well. It was a huge hit here in Southern California. Thanks for sharing this with us. I do have it on my external music drive. A friend of mine has a daily oldie feature and one time he featured this song. That’s how I got it.

Rosemarie

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hey this has something to do with this new decade.  Enjoy this for yourselves.  This will be up for a week. Then I’ll take it down. Happy listening!  https://www.dropbox.com/s/rg2y9qjvenjqfwi/01%20-%20In%20the%20year%202525.mp3?dl=0

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

You may have such a problem again.  You don't need to spend any amount of money that matters.  You can get and use very inexpensive USB sound cards for ten U.S. dollars or less. 

, I don’t have a 7 box anymore, mine died late last February. It lost all soundand I probably would have needed a new sound card.  I didn’t want to spend the money getting a new sound card for an 8 year old 7 box.  It was becoming more and more unreliable. I was going to leave 7 anyway! I knew support would be running out soon.  I was just concerned for those who still use 7.   

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

MS will kill off support for WIN 7 on JAN 14^th so buy you a new machine if you got some bucks. You can use it, but you’ll not get security updates.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hi, I thought support is running out for windows 7.  When is Microsoft quitting support for windows 7?  I wonder if windows 7 is going to be like xp having no security on the net?  I personally don’t care if people still want to use it. If they do, they should just use it for checking mail. Or things you can do with it that you may not be able to do with ten.  Like audio programs like total recorder or using audio equipment such as taking audio from cassette tapes I know you can do it with xp.  If I had 7 I’d not do on line banking with it. 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hi.

I think there’s an ocr add-on that you might be able to use with windows 7. Try this link  . . .

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/ocr.en.html

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rana Ayaz
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 12:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda ocr addon

Thanks for response
But I want to use with window 7 32 bit

You are welcome. I have it too. I think I got it from Marty the oldies man.  You probably got it from the same man!  Some of the stuff is starting to come true. I mean worldly things.  Mind you I was too young when that song was out.  I was just a toddler.  I was almost 3. I think it came out in the summer of 1969. 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hi, Arleen,

I remember this song very well. It was a huge hit here in Southern California. Thanks for sharing this with us. I do have it on my external music drive. A friend of mine has a daily oldie feature and one time he featured this song. That’s how I got it.

Rosemarie

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hey this has something to do with this new decade.  Enjoy this for yourselves.  This will be up for a week. Then I’ll take it down. Happy listening!  https://www.dropbox.com/s/rg2y9qjvenjqfwi/01%20-%20In%20the%20year%202525.mp3?dl=0

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Yeah, we’re definitely having strange weather. I wonder if any of us will be
around in the year 2525.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 9:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] something for you to enjoy

Yeah, look at how Global warming is in the news. We are having strange
weather.  I wonder what this world will come and how our technology will
become. Would NVDA be around in the year 2525?

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: January 1, 2020 7:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] something for you to enjoy

That's an oldie but a goodie.  I remember it well.
It was one of the first environmental protest songs that made the pop
charts. It actually hit number one in 1969 for a week or so.
On 1/1/2020 6:16 PM, Arlene wrote:
Hey this has something to do with this new decade.  Enjoy this for
yourselves.  This will be up for a week. Then I’ll take it down. Happy
listening!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rg2y9qjvenjqfwi/01%20-%20In%20the%20year%202525.mp3?dl=0

Sent from Mail for Windows 10


--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

Yeah, look at how Global warming is in the news. We are having strange weather.  I wonder what this world will come and how our technology will become. Would NVDA be around in the year 2525?

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

That's an oldie but a goodie.  I remember it well.
It was one of the first environmental protest songs that made the pop charts. It actually hit number one in 1969 for a week or so.

Hey this has something to do with this new decade.  Enjoy this for yourselves.  This will be up for a week. Then I’ll take it down. Happy listening!  https://www.dropbox.com/s/rg2y9qjvenjqfwi/01%20-%20In%20the%20year%202525.mp3?dl=0

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

-- 

They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.

They ask: "How Happy are You?"

I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

That's an oldie but a goodie.  I remember it well.
It was one of the first environmental protest songs that made the pop charts. It actually hit number one in 1969 for a week or so.

Hey this has something to do with this new decade.  Enjoy this for yourselves.  This will be up for a week. Then I’ll take it down. Happy listening!  https://www.dropbox.com/s/rg2y9qjvenjqfwi/01%20-%20In%20the%20year%202525.mp3?dl=0

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

-- 

They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.

They ask: "How Happy are You?"

I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

You are welcome. I have it too. I think I got it from Marty the oldies man.  You probably got it from the same man!  Some of the stuff is starting to come true. I mean worldly things.  Mind you I was too young when that song was out.  I was just a toddler.  I was almost 3. I think it came out in the summer of 1969. 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hi, Arleen,

I remember this song very well. It was a huge hit here in Southern California. Thanks for sharing this with us. I do have it on my external music drive. A friend of mine has a daily oldie feature and one time he featured this song. That’s how I got it.

Rosemarie

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hey this has something to do with this new decade.  Enjoy this for yourselves.  This will be up for a week. Then I’ll take it down. Happy listening!  https://www.dropbox.com/s/rg2y9qjvenjqfwi/01%20-%20In%20the%20year%202525.mp3?dl=0

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

You are welcome. I have it too. I think I got it from Marty the oldies man.
You probably got it from the same man!  Some of the stuff is starting to
come true. I mean worldly things.  Mind you I was too young when that song
was out.  I was just a toddler.  I was almost 3. I think it came out in the
summer of 1969.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: January 1, 2020 8:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] something for you to enjoy



Hi, Arleen,



I remember this song very well. It was a huge hit here in Southern
California. Thanks for sharing this with us. I do have it on my external
music drive. A friend of mine has a daily oldie feature and one time he
featured this song. That’s how I got it.



Rosemarie







Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 3:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] something for you to enjoy



Hey this has something to do with this new decade.  Enjoy this for
yourselves.  This will be up for a week. Then I’ll take it down. Happy
listening!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rg2y9qjvenjqfwi/01%20-%20In%20the%20year%202525.mp3?dl=0



Sent from Mail for Windows 10