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From: Chris Mullins
Sent: November 8, 2019 3:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

Yes it still exists and I think it still runs on XP.

 

Cheers

Chris

C

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 8 November 2019 06:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

What? Opera browser still exists?  I’ve heard of it when I was on the jaws list. Not the list that Debbi Scales ran. She was for beginners and advancing users. I was on the list for more advanced users. There was where I heard about the Opera Browser. Can anybody use it? Or is it for more advanced users where they do computer coding? Sorry for the long message. I thought Opera was a thing of the past.

 

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From: zahra
Sent: November 7, 2019 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

i just tried it one time and it worked.

i dont remember which version i installed.

 

On 11/8/19, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

> Hay I was wondering if the opera browser works with a screen reader such

> as nvda?  just let me know and I will try it

> 

> 

>

> 

> 

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 

I'm trying opera but I can't change my home page. I might end up
uninstalling it.
\


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joshua
Tubbs
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA
can't interact with

I'm not sure. I'll try Opera.

On 11/8/19, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:

I just tested it with Opera web browser and it works fine. Why are
there so many “skip navigation links”?

******
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
you!


From: Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 1:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that
NVDA can't interact with

Hello, would anybody be willing to have a look at a webpage off-line for
me.
It’s having similar issues with drop-down boxes, but I don’t think
it’s related to JavaScript.

I’ve never seen this particular behavior before, so I just want to
understand what’s going on.

Sile

On Nov 7, 2019, at 9:10 PM, Joshua Tubbs <orin8722@...> wrote:

Hmm. Were you using Chrome?

I'll have to double check to see if JavaScript is on in Chrome.

On 11/6/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I just looked at the site with JAVA script on. I followed one of
the links and it opened another page as a standard link does. I see
that the site has a login place, and you didn't say if you did so.
I didn't look enough to see if features are available if you log in
that aren't otherwise, but the entire home page appears accessible
to me. In addition, between each of the navigation links is a link
that says skip navigation links. You really only need one but since
someone put a skip link after every navigation link, that strongly
implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even if
this or that accomodation may be overdoing it.

I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more
information, we can see them. But just going to the site and
looking around doesn't show me any.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Hi all,

I just visited the following website:

http://canadianxpress.ca/

I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of
the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
each time I've encountered issues.
On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way,
whether
via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the
links
to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where
to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and
route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
will be present. Not with this one, however...

Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.

I just tested it with Opera web browser and it works fine. Why are
there so many “skip navigation links”?

******
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
you!


From: Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 1:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that
NVDA can't interact with

Hello, would anybody be willing to have a look at a webpage off-line for me.
It’s having similar issues with drop-down boxes, but I don’t think
it’s related to JavaScript.

I’ve never seen this particular behavior before, so I just want to
understand what’s going on.

Sile

On Nov 7, 2019, at 9:10 PM, Joshua Tubbs <orin8722@...> wrote:

Hmm. Were you using Chrome?

I'll have to double check to see if JavaScript is on in Chrome.

On 11/6/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I just looked at the site with JAVA script on. I followed one of
the links and it opened another page as a standard link does. I see
that the site has a login place, and you didn't say if you did so.
I didn't look enough to see if features are available if you log in
that aren't otherwise, but the entire home page appears accessible
to me. In addition, between each of the navigation links is a link
that says skip navigation links. You really only need one but since
someone put a skip link after every navigation link, that strongly
implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even if
this or that accomodation may be overdoing it.

I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more
information, we can see them. But just going to the site and
looking around doesn't show me any.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Hi all,

I just visited the following website:

http://canadianxpress.ca/

I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of
the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
each time I've encountered issues.
On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way,
whether
via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the links
to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where
to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and
route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
will be present. Not with this one, however...

Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.

I just tested it with Opera web browser and it works fine. Why are there so
many “skip navigation links”?

******
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
you!


From: Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 1:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA
can't interact with

Hello, would anybody be willing to have a look at a webpage off-line for me.
It’s having similar issues with drop-down boxes, but I don’t think it’s
related to JavaScript.

I’ve never seen this particular behavior before, so I just want to
understand what’s going on.

Sile

On Nov 7, 2019, at 9:10 PM, Joshua Tubbs <orin8722@...> wrote:

Hmm. Were you using Chrome?

I'll have to double check to see if JavaScript is on in Chrome.

On 11/6/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I just looked at the site with JAVA script on. I followed one of the
links
and it opened another page as a standard link does. I see that the site
has
a login place, and you didn't say if you did so. I didn't look enough
to
see if features are available if you log in that aren't otherwise, but
the
entire home page appears accessible to me. In addition, between each of
the
navigation links is a link that says skip navigation links. You really
only
need one but since someone put a skip link after every navigation link,
that
strongly implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even
if
this or that accomodation may be overdoing it.

I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more
information,
we can see them. But just going to the site and looking around doesn't
show
me any.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Hi all,

I just visited the following website:

http://canadianxpress.ca/

I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of
the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
each time I've encountered issues.
On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way,
whether
via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the links
to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where
to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and
route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
will be present. Not with this one, however...

Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.

Yes it still exists and I think it still runs on XP.

Cheers

Chris

C

What? Opera browser still exists?  I’ve heard of it when I was on the jaws list. Not the list that Debbi Scales ran. She was for beginners and advancing users. I was on the list for more advanced users. There was where I heard about the Opera Browser. Can anybody use it? Or is it for more advanced users where they do computer coding? Sorry for the long message. I thought Opera was a thing of the past.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

i just tried it one time and it worked.

i dont remember which version i installed.

On 11/8/19, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

> Hay I was wondering if the opera browser works with a screen reader such

> as nvda?  just let me know and I will try it

> 

> 

>

> 

> 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

hello, I'm using opera already for a long time but there is another option that is very nice, try it!
it is vpn, buildin of opera it works fine also with nvda, no difference about accessibility!
cheers
paul otter

HI all.  I actually have replaced Chrome with Opera as my default browser and have no cause to regret my action.  It is a fast, efficient browser with a real effective ad blocker that gets rid of ads that litter articles you want to read.  While chrome promotes those ads, Opera blocks them, allowing you to get a smoother, uninterupted read of articles that interest you, which also incidentally makes copying and pasting of articles or snippets much easier.  Years ago, Opera was hardly accessible.  Now, i think it beats the standard mainstream browsers any time.  They have, indeed, come a very long way.  Cheers!

On 11/8/2019 2:32 PM, Bobby Vinton wrote:

Well opera still updates and it is chrome based

On 11/8/2019 1:14 AM, Arlene wrote:

What? Opera browser still exists?  I’ve heard of it when I was on the jaws list. Not the list that Debbi Scales ran. She was for beginners and advancing users. I was on the list for more advanced users. There was where I heard about the Opera Browser. Can anybody use it? Or is it for more advanced users where they do computer coding? Sorry for the long message. I thought Opera was a thing of the past.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: November 7, 2019 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

i just tried it one time and it worked.

i dont remember which version i installed.

 

On 11/8/19, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

> Hay I was wondering if the opera browser works with a screen reader such

> as nvda?  just let me know and I will try it

> 

> 

>

> 

> 

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

HI all.  I actually have replaced Chrome with Opera as my default browser and have no cause to regret my action.  It is a fast, efficient browser with a real effective ad blocker that gets rid of ads that litter articles you want to read.  While chrome promotes those ads, Opera blocks them, allowing you to get a smoother, uninterupted read of articles that interest you, which also incidentally makes copying and pasting of articles or snippets much easier.  Years ago, Opera was hardly accessible.  Now, i think it beats the standard mainstream browsers any time.  They have, indeed, come a very long way.  Cheers!

On 11/8/2019 2:32 PM, Bobby Vinton wrote:

Well opera still updates and it is chrome based

On 11/8/2019 1:14 AM, Arlene wrote:

What? Opera browser still exists?  I’ve heard of it when I was on the jaws list. Not the list that Debbi Scales ran. She was for beginners and advancing users. I was on the list for more advanced users. There was where I heard about the Opera Browser. Can anybody use it? Or is it for more advanced users where they do computer coding? Sorry for the long message. I thought Opera was a thing of the past.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: November 7, 2019 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

i just tried it one time and it worked.

i dont remember which version i installed.

 

On 11/8/19, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

> Hay I was wondering if the opera browser works with a screen reader such

> as nvda?  just let me know and I will try it

> 

> 

>

> 

> 

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

What? Opera browser still exists?  I’ve heard of it when I was on the jaws list. Not the list that Debbi Scales ran. She was for beginners and advancing users. I was on the list for more advanced users. There was where I heard about the Opera Browser. Can anybody use it? Or is it for more advanced users where they do computer coding? Sorry for the long message. I thought Opera was a thing of the past.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

i just tried it one time and it worked.

i dont remember which version i installed.

On 11/8/19, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

> Hay I was wondering if the opera browser works with a screen reader such

> as nvda?  just let me know and I will try it

> 

> 

>

> 

> 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

--

What? Opera browser still exists?  I’ve heard of it when I was on the jaws list. Not the list that Debbi Scales ran. She was for beginners and advancing users. I was on the list for more advanced users. There was where I heard about the Opera Browser. Can anybody use it? Or is it for more advanced users where they do computer coding? Sorry for the long message. I thought Opera was a thing of the past.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

i just tried it one time and it worked.

i dont remember which version i installed.

On 11/8/19, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

> Hay I was wondering if the opera browser works with a screen reader such

> as nvda?  just let me know and I will try it

> 

> 

>

> 

> 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

Hello, would anybody be willing to have a look at a webpage off-line for me. It’s having similar issues with drop-down boxes, but I don’t think it’s related to JavaScript.

I’ve never seen this particular behavior before, so I just want to understand what’s going on.

Sile

> On Nov 7, 2019, at 9:10 PM, Joshua Tubbs <orin8722@...> wrote:

>

> Hmm. Were you using Chrome?

>

> I'll have to double check to see if JavaScript is on in Chrome.

>

>

>

>> On 11/6/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

>> I just looked at the site with JAVA script on.  I followed one of the links

>> and it opened another page as a standard link does.  I see that the site has

>> a login place, and you didn't say if you did so.  I didn't look enough to

>> see if features are available if you log in that aren't otherwise, but the

>> entire home page appears accessible to me.  In addition, between each of the

>> navigation links is a link that says skip navigation links.  You really only

>> need one but since someone put a skip link after every navigation link, that

>> strongly implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even if

>> this or that accomodation may be overdoing it.

>>

>> I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more information,

>> we can see them.  But just going to the site and looking around doesn't show

>> me any.

>>

>> Gene

>> ----- Original Message -----

>>

>>    Hi all,

>>

>>    I just visited the following website:

>>

>>    http://canadianxpress.ca/

>>

>>    I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of

>>    the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and

>>    each time I've encountered issues.

>>    On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs

>>    with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way, whether

>>    via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,

>>    short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the links

>>    to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse

>>    overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where

>>    to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and

>>    route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information

>>    will be present. Not with this one, however...

>>

>>    Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

Hi Jarek,

Does Eset work with NVDA now?  I had someone ask (elsewhere) about it, and when I approached Eset, they had no idea and no interest in looking into it.

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 7:11 PM Jarek.Krcmar <Jarek.Krcmar@...> wrote:

Hello group Nvda,

Some months ago I wrote, that Eset antivirus doesn't work in Nvda.

I would like to inform you, that it's already in older.

It is necessary have in Eset installed a module HIP, it is a Screen Config

If any from you is an user of product Eset, do visit support of Eset.


--
Jarek

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