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I can't find where in nvda I can check for add on updates

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

So I have the add on updater installed on my pc. Where do I go to check for add on updates? Thanks.


Re: Add-on Updater 19.01 (early Christmas present), requires NVDA 2018.4 #addonrelease

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

That last point has in fact affected File hippo in recent months on and off on ordinary downloads,when it says thanks the download failed.its obviously a bit stingy on waiting for our end to reply.

Incidentally, Those using older versions of nvda are they going to be constantly pestered with this new download which then fails to install due to the changes?
Maybe a new version of 18 with a check of nvda version should have been offered first?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: "'NVDA screen reader development'" <nvda-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 7:03 PM
Subject: [nvda] Add-on Updater 19.01 (early Christmas present), requires NVDA 2018.4 #AddonRelease


Hi everyone,



An early Christmas present for you: Add-on Updater 19.01 is now available.
This one brings performance improves when checking for updates, two new
add-on update checks, and new NvDA version requirement. Also, as of 19.01,
Add-on Updater is Python 3 ready.



IMPORTANT: Add-on Updater 19.01 requires NVDA 2018.4.



You can get the new add-on release in two ways:



* Manual: addons.nvda-project.org, select Add-on Updater and select
stable version link.
* Add-on Updater: check for add-on updates.



Changelog:

* Several new and updated localizations.
* Performance improvements when checking for add-on updates (done via
threads).
* Python 3 ready.



Another note to be aware of: there are add-ons hosted on some cloud
datacenters that imposes time limit as to when you can download the add-on
package. Thus, when NVDA says new add-on updates are available, please apply
them as soon as possible. If you get an error that ends with "error 403"
while downloading add-ons, please try checking for updates again.



Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph




Re: Setting Up An Auto-Responder

Sarah k Alawami
 

If you have gmail you can set this up and it will only sent it every 7 days. That is it will just send 1 out, then after 7days if messages arrive to that address it will send just 1 etc etc etc.

Take care

On 20 Dec 2018, at 9:08, Ervin, Glenn wrote:

Hi,

I am about to be out of the office for about a week and a half and in years past, I have seen people’s auto-responders indicating that they will be back at such and such time going to various listserves.

But of years recent, I haven’t seen these going around.

I have Office 2016, and I’m wondering if lately Outlook has gotten smart enough to not send these to lists.

I don’t want to set one up if every incoming message will be going to be sending an auto reply to all the lists I’m on.

Thanks.

Glenn

 

 

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Re: Add-on Updater 19.01 (early Christmas present), requires NVDA 2018.4 #addonrelease

Don H
 

Wow how did Joseph know I wanted a addon update for Christmas? Merry Christmas to everyone.

On 12/20/2018 1:03 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi everyone,
An early Christmas present for you: Add-on Updater 19.01 is now available. This one brings performance improves when checking for updates, two new add-on update checks, and new NvDA version requirement. Also, as of 19.01, Add-on Updater is Python 3 ready.
IMPORTANT: Add-on Updater 19.01 requires NVDA 2018.4.
You can get the new add-on release in two ways:
* Manual: addons.nvda-project.org, select Add-on Updater and select
stable version link.
* Add-on Updater: check for add-on updates.
Changelog:
* Several new and updated localizations.
* Performance improvements when checking for add-on updates (done via
threads).
* Python 3 ready.
Another note to be aware of: there are add-ons hosted on some cloud datacenters that imposes time limit as to when you can download the add-on package. Thus, when NVDA says new add-on updates are available, please apply them as soon as possible. If you get an error that ends with “error 403” while downloading add-ons, please try checking for updates again.
Thank you.
Cheers,
Joseph


Add-on Updater 19.01 (early Christmas present), requires NVDA 2018.4 #addonrelease

 

Hi everyone,

 

An early Christmas present for you: Add-on Updater 19.01 is now available. This one brings performance improves when checking for updates, two new add-on update checks, and new NvDA version requirement. Also, as of 19.01, Add-on Updater is Python 3 ready.

 

IMPORTANT: Add-on Updater 19.01 requires NVDA 2018.4.

 

You can get the new add-on release in two ways:

 

  • Manual: addons.nvda-project.org, select Add-on Updater and select stable version link.
  • Add-on Updater: check for add-on updates.

 

Changelog:

  • Several new and updated localizations.
  • Performance improvements when checking for add-on updates (done via threads).
  • Python 3 ready.

 

Another note to be aware of: there are add-ons hosted on some cloud datacenters that imposes time limit as to when you can download the add-on package. Thus, when NVDA says new add-on updates are available, please apply them as soon as possible. If you get an error that ends with “error 403” while downloading add-ons, please try checking for updates again.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Setting Up An Auto-Responder

 

I stand corrected, by Ralf and myself:  I've sent vacation responses in the past with many IMAP accounts, but most not under Outlook.  What I did do when under Outlook and not using an Exchange account is documented on this Microsoft Help Page.
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Re: Setting Up An Auto-Responder

 

On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 12:47 PM, Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote:
With outlook it will only work if you’re connected to an Exchange account.
I have used vacation responder with many IMAP accounts in the past.
 
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Re: Hello/Still Noticing Slight Performance Decrease When Navigating with NVDA 2018.4

Tony Malykh
 

David,
I believe speech refactoring project is not going to improve latency.
It will rather add some new features to speech API of NVDA.
--Tony

On 12/19/18, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@outlook.com> wrote:
Tony,

Thank you for confirming what I have noticed. The performance hit I'm seeing
is significant enough that I really prefer what the previous version.
However, I am impressed with the experimental UIA support which I enabled in
my NVDA.ini file for use with Word. I definitely notice the difference,
particularly on my machine which is not the fastest machine around. What I'd
really like to see most in NVDA is a refactoring of the speech to improve
latency and, dare I make this comparison, to make it behave more like JAWS.
Specifically, I'm referring to the responsiveness when navigating using the
cursor and when typing.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com<http://WWW.David-Goldfield.Com>
On 12/18/2018 1:53 PM, Tony Malykh wrote:

I noticed this in Chrome too - 2018.4 is slightly slower than
2018.3.2. All the betas of 2018.4 were slower as well. However, with
2018.3.2 I had a problem of weird behavior with missing keystrokes in
browse mode. So it seems to me some bugs were fixed that both solved
my problem and made chrome a bit slower.

On 12/17/18, David Goldfield
<david.goldfield@outlook.com><mailto:david.goldfield@outlook.com> wrote:


My guess is that nobody else is experiencing this issue as I'm seeing no
other posts about this.

When I navigate by links with K or shift K in Thunderbird and even, to an
extent, in Chrome I notice a slight slowdown in responsiveness compared to
2018.3. For a short time I thought it was my computer as I was sometimes
seeing this occur in 2018.3.2 but, in general, 2018.3.2 is still somewhat
faster. I sent Quentin a debug file with all addons disabled but I'm
assuming there was nothing obvious in the output as I haven't heard back. I
notice this with Espeak. On a faster machine I do not notice this but on a
slower Athlon 2.9 GHZ there is a slight but noticeable difference. Just
wondering if anybody has noticed this and if something changed in the code
regarding navigation?

--
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Re: Setting Up An Auto-Responder

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hello Ervin,

 

With outlook it will only work if you’re connected to an Exchange account.

But most mail providers provide such a service in their web configurations interface.

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: Donnerstag, 20. Dezember 2018 18:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Setting Up An Auto-Responder

 

Hi,

I am about to be out of the office for about a week and a half and in years past, I have seen people’s auto-responders indicating that they will be back at such and such time going to various listserves.

But of years recent, I haven’t seen these going around.

I have Office 2016, and I’m wondering if lately Outlook has gotten smart enough to not send these to lists.

I don’t want to set one up if every incoming message will be going to be sending an auto reply to all the lists I’m on.

Thanks.

Glenn

 

 

Glenn Ervin  Orientation Counselor II

Norfolk Nebraska

402 370 3436

Cell: 402 992 0325

Welcome | NCBVI

 


Re: can't get vlc media player to start

Sarah k Alawami
 

In my case I have to use version 2.x as it works with obs. I do stream some content when I'm gone, so using 2.x has to work for me. And they cannot fix it as ther eare some things that broke with api access and version 3. Otherwise use the newest thing.

On 20 Dec 2018, at 0:05, Shaun Everiss wrote:

go to www.codecguide.com and get the mega codec pack and make sure you have the latest vlc from videolan.org.


On 12/20/2018 5:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I tried opening the program and then playing the movie but there was no sound.



On 12/18/2018 5:35 PM, Gene wrote:

Your message doesn't say what is or isn't happening.  You say you can't play something.  You don't say whether the program opens or what happens when you try to play the item.  Since we don't know specifically what happens, we can't address the question properly, though someone may provide a solution.  But how do we know that the player isn't muted, opening, playing the file with no sound.  We don't know if that is happening but it is important to give detailed information when presenting a problem.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 4:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't get vlc media player to start


I tried everything I could think of to open vlc media player but I'll try the "open with" and see if that works.




From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Karmelo
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 11:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't get vlc media player to start


Rosemarie,


Try the context menu key

arrow down to open with.

You should find vlc media player.

Press enter.


Regards,

Charles



Hi.


How are you trying to open it?


Are your file associations set to VlC?

What happens when you open it using the search box or run dialog?

If you've tried everything and there's simply no VLC window opening, it may be time to re-install. There's nothing special related to starting VlC; it should open like any other programme.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December 18, 2018 2:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] can't get vlc media player to start


Hi, everyone,


I just put in a movie to try to watch but I can't get vlc media player to play now. The last time I used it was during the summer when I was watching a movie my sister gaveme for my birthday. How do I get this program to start?


Thanks for your help in advance.


Rosemarie








Re: can't get vlc media player to start

Sarah k Alawami
 

Ok, try raising yoru volume. If that doesn't work try with media player. If that does not work the movie might have no sound.

On 19 Dec 2018, at 20:47, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I tried opening the program and then playing the movie but there was no sound.



On 12/18/2018 5:35 PM, Gene wrote:

Your message doesn't say what is or isn't happening. You say you can't play something. You don't say whether the program opens or what happens when you try to play the item. Since we don't know specifically what happens, we can't address the question properly, though someone may provide a solution. But how do we know that the player isn't muted, opening, playing the file with no sound. We don't know if that is happening but it is important to give detailed information when presenting a problem.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 4:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't get vlc media player to start


I tried everything I could think of to open vlc media player but I'll try the "open with" and see if that works.




From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Karmelo
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 11:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't get vlc media player to start


Rosemarie,


Try the context menu key

arrow down to open with.

You should find vlc media player.

Press enter.


Regards,

Charles



Hi.


How are you trying to open it?


Are your file associations set to VlC?

What happens when you open it using the search box or run dialog?

If you've tried everything and there's simply no VLC window opening, it may be time to re-install. There's nothing special related to starting VlC; it should open like any other programme.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December 18, 2018 2:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] can't get vlc media player to start


Hi, everyone,


I just put in a movie to try to watch but I can't get vlc media player to play now. The last time I used it was during the summer when I was watching a movie my sister gaveme for my birthday. How do I get this program to start?


Thanks for your help in advance.


Rosemarie








Re: can't get vlc media player to start

Sarah k Alawami
 

You keep saying that, however, you don't say what happens when you launch vlc. Does nothing happen, does the program crash? I cannot read your mind et, so you will have to tell me and others what's going on and what error messages you re getting right down to the letter if possible along with error codes and screen shots if needed.

Take care

On 19 Dec 2018, at 20:45, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I'll give vlc media player another try.



On 12/18/2018 5:39 PM, Gene wrote:

you repeatedly do this. Get rid of or say you are going to get rid of a program. You haven't given the list sufficient time to ask about and propose possible solutions.

If you really get rid of the program, let us definitely know so we don't waste time. If you think better of it, members will still help. But this pattern of behavior doesn't help you solve the problem nor does it do justice to those who send information or suggestions.

I sent a message before this one with what might be helpful information about solving the problem. Did I send it for nothing?

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 5:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't get vlc media player to start


I'm gonna get rid of the program. I tried everything I know but nothing is working.




From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 11:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't get vlc media player to start


Hi.


How are you trying to open it?


Are your file associations set to VlC?

What happens when you open it using the search box or run dialog?

If you've tried everything and there's simply no VLC window opening, it may be time to re-install. There's nothing special related to starting VlC; it should open like any other programme.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December 18, 2018 2:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] can't get vlc media player to start


Hi, everyone,


I just put in a movie to try to watch but I can't get vlc media player to play now. The last time I used it was during the summer when I was watching a movie my sister gaveme for my birthday. How do I get this program to start?


Thanks for your help in advance.


Rosemarie








Re: Setting Up An Auto-Responder

Mike Sedmak
 

The current version of outlook has the notion of a response for
"people inside your organization" and "people outside your
organization". So on my work email I can set the autoreply
differently for my coworkers (same amd.com root on the address) versus
the rest of the world.

On 12/20/18, Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@nebraska.gov> wrote:
Hi,
I am about to be out of the office for about a week and a half and in years
past, I have seen people's auto-responders indicating that they will be back
at such and such time going to various listserves.
But of years recent, I haven't seen these going around.
I have Office 2016, and I'm wondering if lately Outlook has gotten smart
enough to not send these to lists.
I don't want to set one up if every incoming message will be going to be
sending an auto reply to all the lists I'm on.
Thanks.
Glenn


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Re: Setting Up An Auto-Responder

 

Glenn,

            Unless you have the addresses for the various mailing lists in your Contacts, virtually all recent versions of Outlook have an option when setting up a vacation response to "Only sent to people in my contacts."

             See this Microsoft Help Page, paying particular attention to the part regarding "Outside my organization" responses and the "My contacts only" option.
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Setting Up An Auto-Responder

Ervin, Glenn
 

Hi,

I am about to be out of the office for about a week and a half and in years past, I have seen people’s auto-responders indicating that they will be back at such and such time going to various listserves.

But of years recent, I haven’t seen these going around.

I have Office 2016, and I’m wondering if lately Outlook has gotten smart enough to not send these to lists.

I don’t want to set one up if every incoming message will be going to be sending an auto reply to all the lists I’m on.

Thanks.

Glenn

 

 

Glenn Ervin  Orientation Counselor II

Norfolk Nebraska

402 370 3436

Cell: 402 992 0325

Welcome | NCBVI

 


Re: my experience using NVDA with a touchscreen

molly the blind tech lover
 

Probably. I think touchscreen capability was introduced in Windows 8.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 10:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] my experience using NVDA with a touchscreen

 

Along these same lines, I just received a WIN 8.1 Zeki tablet.  Should it theoretically be able to run NVDA with touch screen capability?

 

Thanks,

Jonathan

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Travis Siegel
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 12:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] my experience using NVDA with a touchscreen

 

As mentioned, the procedure is pretty simple to add a gesture.  I just added one for testing, that with a two finger doubletap tells me the time. 

Simply open the NVDA menues,

go to preferences,

input gestures,

system status,

then the first option under that is the description of the shift f12 key, if pressed once, reports time, if pressed twice, reports the date.  You'll want to expand that, then tab to add gesture button.

After that, just perform the gesture you want to speak the time, press enter, and you're all done.

You can use this process to add gestures to any NVDA key function that is listed in that whole series of commands list.  Hope this helps.

 

 

On 12/16/2018 11:44 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

There isn’t really a time and battery status command in touchscreens because they are located on the bottom right side of the screen (doesn’t matter if it is landscape or portrait). This is similar to iPad where you can check time and battery status via the status bar (topmost group of controls on the screen).

In regards to general touchscreen use: it isn’t enough to learn commands provided by the screen reader. Part of what makes touchscreen useful is knowing where things are. For example, on Windows, the screen is typically laid out thus:

  • An app window, below of which is the taskbar and other user interface elements.
  • An app window consists of a band of controls on top for manipulating windows, the content area (including the menu bar/ribbon area), and in some programs, status bars and toolbars.
  • The top band is further divided into the title bar on the left, and window controls (maximize button, minimize button, close button and such) on the right.
  • In some programs, the menu bar is located below the title bar. Some newer programs lack this, and some will come with ribbon (a band of contextual toolbars), most notably in Microsoft Office applications since 2007.
  • Below the menu bar are several band of controls containing contextual buttons.
  • Below the toolbars is the content area (a document, a spreadsheet, a presentation, a media playback area, etc.).
  • In some programs, below the content area sits one or more status bars.
  • Various toolbars may exist on the sides.
  • Below the app window is either the taskbar and other elements, or in some cases, an app may lie on top of another one.
  • The bottom controls on screen consists of (from left to right): Start button, various toolbars and buttons, taskbar, one or more additional buttons, notification area (system tray which contains clock, network status, volume, and on mobile devices, power and battery status, additional icons including that of NVDA), and Show Desktop button (which briefly minimizes all apps and shows icons on the desktop).
  • Various Windows releases may show additional buttons and toolbars on the bottom of the screen (besides taskbar and Start button), including Search and Task View buttons in Windows 10, touch keyboard toggle on tablets, and other controls.

 

At some point in 2019, I will ask NVDA developers if they can document what I just described to you in the user guide, specifically when introducing touchscreen commands. I will also make sure to remind anyone producing touchscreen tutorials of any kind to introduce what’s on screen before introducing touch commands (including a potentially fourth edition of Welcome to NvDA tutorial series).

 

There is an add-on called Enhanced Touch Gestures that makes touchscreen usage a bit easier

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/enhancedTouchGestures.en.html

 

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 8:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] my experience using NVDA with a touchscreen

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I wanted to share my experience using NVDA with a touchscreen.

So I have a Microsoft Surface tablet. It’s one of those pc’s where you can disconnect the keyboard from the touchscreen. I love touchscreen devices, so I was hoping to use it like an iPad. However, it soon became clear that there are far more keyboard commands for NVDA than touch gestures. You can do basic things like swipe and double tap, and even activate the NVDA menu by doing a 2 finger double tap. However, you can’t start NVDA using the touchscreen. For some reason I found myself getting stuck in a particular area of the screen and unable to get out of it. I don’t think there’s a touch gesture to close apps.  I also haven’t found a way to check the time and battery status using the touchscreen. Basically, if you just use the touchscreen, you won’t have a lot of the commands you would have using the keyboard.  I found that  connecting the keyboard is much more efficient. Even using Narrator with the touchscreen is hard sometimes. While I appreciate that NVDA supports touch gestures, I would still recommend for anyone to use a physical keyboard. I’m glad I purchased the keyboard. Sold separately, apparently.  

 

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Re: Starting in Random Cells in Excel

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hi Kelby,

The cursor will always be at he position where it was when the file was saved the last time.

Regards,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of kelby carlson
Sent: Donnerstag, 20. Dezember 2018 15:59
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Starting in Random Cells in Excel

When I open a workbook in Excel that is already partially filled in, a lot of times the cursor will be to a totally
random cell. Is this an NVDA thing? If so, how do I get it to start from the top each time?


Re: Getting a custom Chromium-based application to work with NVDA

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

So surely then, that implies it should already know how to use it?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting a custom Chromium-based application to work with NVDA


Hi,

For situations like this, an app module for the app must tell NVDA that a certain window is a Chrome document (via chooseNVDAObjectOverlayClasses method). A simple app aliasing (which is essentially what you’re doing with JAWS) won’t work in NVDA at the moment (in Python, app module aliasing is done by “from something import *”), as there is no app module for Chrome, as NV Access believes that the rendering engine used by Chrome is used in other situations.

Cheers,

Joseph





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Graham McDermott
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 3:11 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Getting a custom Chromium-based application to work with NVDA



Hi,

I have an application that is using an embedded Chromium browser to render to the screen. As such it exposes the accessibility interfaces available from Chrome.

What do I need to do to get my application to be recognised by NVDA as a chromium-based browser, and use the Chromium ia2 code?

In Jaws I can specify in a config file that my task (say "myapp.exe") is Chromium by putting an entry "myapp=Chrome" in the ConfigNames.ini file. Is there an equivalent in NVDA?

Thanks,

Graham


Re: off topic question about deleting all emails from my inbox folder in outlook

Devin Prater
 

This was informative to me, too. Thanks, Gene.


On Dec 19, 2018, at 7:02 PM, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:

I understand. I watch youtube videos about computer performance and a lot of the time people say the more ram the faster your computer will be. But that is very misleading. It also depends on the processor speed among other things. I got my emails back, by the way. A friend helped me figure it out.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 7:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic question about deleting all emails from my inbox folder in outlook

 

Yes, but that is completely separate from RAM.  Ram is where information is stored your computer uses.  A program you run is usually in RAM.  It is memory.  the Processor is active.  it makes  calculations.  But there is much more to determine the speed of a computer than just the processor.  The motherboard has a speed, the speed at which information travels through it.  I don't have the technical knowledge to discuss it much but the motherboard is basically the assembly that connects components of your computer so they can communicate with each other. 
The speed with which information travels through the motherboard is important in determining the speed.  Also, processors have a cache.  That is where information is temporarily stored.  If a fast processor has a low cache, thaqt can slow your computer as well because information isn't stored in the processor cache and thus takes longer for the processor to access.  Again, I don't have the technical knowledge to discuss that in detail but others may want to discuss such matters. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 6:40 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic question about deleting all emails from my inbox folder in outlook

 

Well if you have a faster processor, doesn’t that improve performance?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 7:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic question about deleting all emails from my inbox folder in outlook

 

I should add that if you have insufficient RAM, your computer will run slowly.  But if you have sufficient RAM, just adding more won't speed it up.  If you never use more than three GB of RAM and you have four, adding more RAM won't do anything.  You already have 1GB that is free at all times.  I often see people say, the more RAM, the faster your machine will run.

 

Memory is one of the most widely misunderstood technical aspects of computers and I've seen more nonsense about RAM than about any other technical aspect of computers.  The more memory the better?  How can more memory speed up a computer that already has free memory when you are just adding more that won't be used.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 5:49 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic question about deleting all emails from my inbox folder in outlook

 

It depends on how much RAM is being used.  If your RAM is so low that your computer must use virtual memory, that is, placing information on your hard drive instead of in RAM, your computer would be slow in operation or slow in switching from program to program as you alt tab and open another program you have alt tabbed to.

 

Deleting the messages in your inbox doesn't have anything to do with memory use.  You've deleted the messages.  They are gone.  They weren't in RAM to start with, they were on your hard drive and were displayed in the inbox.  Now they are gone. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 5:15 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic question about deleting all emails from my inbox folder in outlook

 

i'm talking about ram as in low memory. i have plenty of disk space. but if your computer doesn'"t have a lot of ram, does that mean the machine will be slow? i thought the more ram you have, and the faster your processor, the faster your machine will be. i could be wrong, though.

 

On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, 6:07 pm Gene <gsasner@... wrote:

I don't know if you understand about RAM.  Are you talking about RAM, meaning memory used by your computer, or are you talking about available disk space.  Low Ram wouldn't cause your e-mail program not to function.  Low ram might cause your entire  computer to function slowly.  You may be able to solve the problem by compressing your inbox but how you do that depends on the program you are using.  How are you determining what is being used in terms of your four gigabytes figure?

 

Gene

----- Original message -----

Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 5:02 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic question about deleting all emails from my inbox folder in outlook

 

well there is no error message. it just appears the inbox is taking forever to load. most likely due to the fact there is one gig of ram available. the other 3 gigabytes of ram are being used for who knows what. i open outlook and it says inbox brainardmolly@....  and then the machine is quiet. when i use the up and down arrow keys nvda doesn't talk. guess outlook is trying to retrieve the mail but it can't because of the ram.

 

On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, 5:36 pm Gene <gsasner@... wrote:

What error message do you get?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 4:34 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic question about deleting all emails from my inbox folder in outlook

 

well it worked but now i'm unable to send or receive email from outlook on this tablet. my life is over.

 

On Wed, 19 Dec 2018, 4:58 pm Governor staten <govsta@... wrote:

I think control plus a should do the trick.

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 3:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] off topic question about deleting all emails from my inbox folder in outlook

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I want to select all the emails in my inbox and delete them. Is there a way to select all the emails all at once? Thanks.


Re: my experience using NVDA with a touchscreen

Jonathan Milam
 

Along these same lines, I just received a WIN 8.1 Zeki tablet.  Should it theoretically be able to run NVDA with touch screen capability?

 

Thanks,

Jonathan

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Travis Siegel
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 12:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] my experience using NVDA with a touchscreen

 

As mentioned, the procedure is pretty simple to add a gesture.  I just added one for testing, that with a two finger doubletap tells me the time. 

Simply open the NVDA menues,

go to preferences,

input gestures,

system status,

then the first option under that is the description of the shift f12 key, if pressed once, reports time, if pressed twice, reports the date.  You'll want to expand that, then tab to add gesture button.

After that, just perform the gesture you want to speak the time, press enter, and you're all done.

You can use this process to add gestures to any NVDA key function that is listed in that whole series of commands list.  Hope this helps.

 

 

On 12/16/2018 11:44 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

There isn’t really a time and battery status command in touchscreens because they are located on the bottom right side of the screen (doesn’t matter if it is landscape or portrait). This is similar to iPad where you can check time and battery status via the status bar (topmost group of controls on the screen).

In regards to general touchscreen use: it isn’t enough to learn commands provided by the screen reader. Part of what makes touchscreen useful is knowing where things are. For example, on Windows, the screen is typically laid out thus:

  • An app window, below of which is the taskbar and other user interface elements.
  • An app window consists of a band of controls on top for manipulating windows, the content area (including the menu bar/ribbon area), and in some programs, status bars and toolbars.
  • The top band is further divided into the title bar on the left, and window controls (maximize button, minimize button, close button and such) on the right.
  • In some programs, the menu bar is located below the title bar. Some newer programs lack this, and some will come with ribbon (a band of contextual toolbars), most notably in Microsoft Office applications since 2007.
  • Below the menu bar are several band of controls containing contextual buttons.
  • Below the toolbars is the content area (a document, a spreadsheet, a presentation, a media playback area, etc.).
  • In some programs, below the content area sits one or more status bars.
  • Various toolbars may exist on the sides.
  • Below the app window is either the taskbar and other elements, or in some cases, an app may lie on top of another one.
  • The bottom controls on screen consists of (from left to right): Start button, various toolbars and buttons, taskbar, one or more additional buttons, notification area (system tray which contains clock, network status, volume, and on mobile devices, power and battery status, additional icons including that of NVDA), and Show Desktop button (which briefly minimizes all apps and shows icons on the desktop).
  • Various Windows releases may show additional buttons and toolbars on the bottom of the screen (besides taskbar and Start button), including Search and Task View buttons in Windows 10, touch keyboard toggle on tablets, and other controls.

 

At some point in 2019, I will ask NVDA developers if they can document what I just described to you in the user guide, specifically when introducing touchscreen commands. I will also make sure to remind anyone producing touchscreen tutorials of any kind to introduce what’s on screen before introducing touch commands (including a potentially fourth edition of Welcome to NvDA tutorial series).

 

There is an add-on called Enhanced Touch Gestures that makes touchscreen usage a bit easier

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/enhancedTouchGestures.en.html

 

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 8:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] my experience using NVDA with a touchscreen

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I wanted to share my experience using NVDA with a touchscreen.

So I have a Microsoft Surface tablet. It’s one of those pc’s where you can disconnect the keyboard from the touchscreen. I love touchscreen devices, so I was hoping to use it like an iPad. However, it soon became clear that there are far more keyboard commands for NVDA than touch gestures. You can do basic things like swipe and double tap, and even activate the NVDA menu by doing a 2 finger double tap. However, you can’t start NVDA using the touchscreen. For some reason I found myself getting stuck in a particular area of the screen and unable to get out of it. I don’t think there’s a touch gesture to close apps.  I also haven’t found a way to check the time and battery status using the touchscreen. Basically, if you just use the touchscreen, you won’t have a lot of the commands you would have using the keyboard.  I found that  connecting the keyboard is much more efficient. Even using Narrator with the touchscreen is hard sometimes. While I appreciate that NVDA supports touch gestures, I would still recommend for anyone to use a physical keyboard. I’m glad I purchased the keyboard. Sold separately, apparently.  

 

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