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Re: latest RC build of NVDA goes mute on windows 10 settings

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Just tested it with windows 10 version  1809 with the windows key + letter I to get into the settings and when it opens it lands in the search box when you tab it still works well speaking the different sections and sub sections.


Gene nz


On 16/12/2018 5:56 AM, Joseph Weakland wrote:
when i do a windows i for settings, the settins opens, and NVDA goes silent and don't speak so i have to alt tab out and then will speak when its back on desktop or other stuff but settings box it is mute:(


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Re: Accessibility Guidelines 2.1.3_Tab key or arrow key #advisory

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I'd have thought both have their place in a properly designed system. Standard use of windows keys is surely a must.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: <tarveen.kaur@magicedtech.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 2:08 PM
Subject: [nvda] Accessibility Guidelines 2.1.3_Tab key or arrow key #advisory


For texas submission do we need to have tab key or arrow key compatible for all type of content, do we need to ensure that all content is 100% accessible via tab key or arrow key.


Re: latest RC build of NVDA goes mute on windows 10 settings

 

Hi,
Does restarting with add-ons disabled help? If not, may I and Quentin get a debug log from you please?
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Weakland
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 8:57 AM
To: nvda discussion list <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] latest RC build of NVDA goes mute on windows 10 settings

when i do a windows i for settings, the settins opens, and NVDA goes silent and don't speak so i have to alt tab out and then will speak when its back on desktop or other stuff but settings box it is mute:(


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Joseph Weakland
email
josephweakland@att.net
sent from my windows 10 pc


latest RC build of NVDA goes mute on windows 10 settings

Joseph Weakland
 

when i do a windows i for settings, the settins opens, and NVDA goes silent and don't speak so i have to alt tab out and then will speak when its back on desktop or other stuff but settings box it is mute:(


--
Joseph Weakland
email
josephweakland@att.net
sent from my windows 10 pc


Re: Accessibility Guidelines 2.1.3_Tab key or arrow key #advisory

 

i believe yes, using arrow and tab keys is the best and most accessible way.

On 12/15/18, tarveen.kaur@magicedtech.com <tarveen.kaur@magicedtech.com> wrote:
For texas submission do we need to have tab key or arrow key compatible for
all type of content, do we need to ensure that all content is 100%
accessible via tab key or arrow key.



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in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
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Re: this is less!

P. Otter
 

ok, that is possible the windows it self has been changed!!
thanks.
cheers
paul otter.

Op 15-12-2018 om 14:19 schreef Joseph Lee:

Hi,
This is rather a change in Windows 10 Version 1809, not NVDA.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 3:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] this is less!

hi all,
in nvda 2018.4rc2 there are made changes I'm not glad with it.
it's about the emoticons.
before it was made that when you press the tab, you change the catechory but now first you have to press windowskey plus dot or ; after that you have to press tab to to choose a catechory now with right arrow choose a catechory now enter again, after that you can tab to find the list!
before it was a lot easyer!
that was press windowskey plus .
than tab to the right catechory after that you find immediately the list!
this is much more cumbersome I think!
you can better take the way as before
in the beginning of nvda 2018.4.
cheers
paul otter







Re: this is less!

P. Otter
 

I've seen I have to tab,  then choose catechory then enter then tab again to bring up the list in the catechory you want.
before it was a lot more simple.

Op 15-12-2018 om 14:10 schreef Chris via Groups.Io:

When you open the emoticon panel in windows its already on the emoticons , so just arrow to the emoticon you require and hit enter, its as simple as that, nothing to do with nvda 🤣🤣s

 

From: P. Otter
Sent: 15 December 2018 11:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] this is less!

 

hi all,

in nvda 2018.4rc2 there are made changes I'm not glad with it.

it's about the emoticons.

before it was made that when you press the tab, you change the catechory

but now first you have to press windowskey plus dot or ;

after that you have to press tab to

to choose a catechory

now with right arrow  choose a catechory now enter again, after that you

can tab to find the list!

before it was a lot easyer!

that was press windowskey plus .

than tab to the right catechory after that you find immediately the list!

this is much more cumbersome I think!

you can better take the way as before

in the beginning of nvda 2018.4.

cheers

paul otter

 

 

 

 



Re: this is less!

P. Otter
 

I've seen I have to tab,  then choose catechory then enter then tab again to bring up the list in the catechory you want.
before it was a lot more simple.

Op 15-12-2018 om 14:10 schreef Chris via Groups.Io:

When you open the emoticon panel in windows its already on the emoticons , so just arrow to the emoticon you require and hit enter, its as simple as that, nothing to do with nvda 🤣🤣s

 

From: P. Otter
Sent: 15 December 2018 11:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] this is less!

 

hi all,

in nvda 2018.4rc2 there are made changes I'm not glad with it.

it's about the emoticons.

before it was made that when you press the tab, you change the catechory

but now first you have to press windowskey plus dot or ;

after that you have to press tab to

to choose a catechory

now with right arrow  choose a catechory now enter again, after that you

can tab to find the list!

before it was a lot easyer!

that was press windowskey plus .

than tab to the right catechory after that you find immediately the list!

this is much more cumbersome I think!

you can better take the way as before

in the beginning of nvda 2018.4.

cheers

paul otter

 

 

 

 



Accessibility Guidelines 2.1.3_Tab key or arrow key #advisory

tarveen.kaur@...
 

For texas submission do we need to have tab key or arrow key compatible for all type of content, do we need to ensure that all content is 100% accessible via tab key or arrow key.


Re: this is less!

P. Otter
 

no, that was also possible before 2018.4 rc1
so i don't know why they has changed.
cheers
paul o

the only you had to do was p   

Op 15-12-2018 om 13:24 schreef marcio via Groups.Io:

Hi,
I believe that this change was made looking for the new emojis panel. Like, now you have what I'd call subcategories, such as skin tones and more. So it's the only way we can have access to all of this emojis, I guess.
Em 15/12/2018 09:27, P. Otter escreveu:
hi all,
in nvda 2018.4rc2 there are made changes I'm not glad with it.
it's about the emoticons.
before it was made that when you press the tab, you change the catechory
but now first you have to press windowskey plus dot or ;
after that you have to press tab to
to choose a catechory
now with right arrow  choose a catechory now enter again, after that you can tab to find the list!
before it was a lot easyer!
that was press windowskey plus .
than tab to the right catechory after that you find immediately the list!
this is much more cumbersome I think!
you can better take the way as before
in the beginning of nvda 2018.4.
cheers
paul otter








Re: this is less!

 

Hi,
This is rather a change in Windows 10 Version 1809, not NVDA.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 3:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] this is less!

hi all,
in nvda 2018.4rc2 there are made changes I'm not glad with it.
it's about the emoticons.
before it was made that when you press the tab, you change the catechory but now first you have to press windowskey plus dot or ; after that you have to press tab to to choose a catechory now with right arrow choose a catechory now enter again, after that you can tab to find the list!
before it was a lot easyer!
that was press windowskey plus .
than tab to the right catechory after that you find immediately the list!
this is much more cumbersome I think!
you can better take the way as before
in the beginning of nvda 2018.4.
cheers
paul otter


Re: this is less!

Chris
 

When you open the emoticon panel in windows its already on the emoticons , so just arrow to the emoticon you require and hit enter, its as simple as that, nothing to do with nvda 🤣🤣s

 

From: P. Otter
Sent: 15 December 2018 11:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] this is less!

 

hi all,

in nvda 2018.4rc2 there are made changes I'm not glad with it.

it's about the emoticons.

before it was made that when you press the tab, you change the catechory

but now first you have to press windowskey plus dot or ;

after that you have to press tab to

to choose a catechory

now with right arrow  choose a catechory now enter again, after that you

can tab to find the list!

before it was a lot easyer!

that was press windowskey plus .

than tab to the right catechory after that you find immediately the list!

this is much more cumbersome I think!

you can better take the way as before

in the beginning of nvda 2018.4.

cheers

paul otter

 

 

 

 


Re: this is less!

 

Hi,
I believe that this change was made looking for the new emojis panel. Like, now you have what I'd call subcategories, such as skin tones and more. So it's the only way we can have access to all of this emojis, I guess.
Em 15/12/2018 09:27, P. Otter escreveu:

hi all,
in nvda 2018.4rc2 there are made changes I'm not glad with it.
it's about the emoticons.
before it was made that when you press the tab, you change the catechory
but now first you have to press windowskey plus dot or ;
after that you have to press tab to
to choose a catechory
now with right arrow  choose a catechory now enter again, after that you can tab to find the list!
before it was a lot easyer!
that was press windowskey plus .
than tab to the right catechory after that you find immediately the list!
this is much more cumbersome I think!
you can better take the way as before
in the beginning of nvda 2018.4.
cheers
paul otter







this is less!

P. Otter
 

hi all,
in nvda 2018.4rc2 there are made changes I'm not glad with it.
it's about the emoticons.
before it was made that when you press the tab, you change the catechory
but now first you have to press windowskey plus dot or ;
after that you have to press tab to
to choose a catechory
now with right arrow  choose a catechory now enter again, after that you can tab to find the list!
before it was a lot easyer!
that was press windowskey plus .
than tab to the right catechory after that you find immediately the list!
this is much more cumbersome I think!
you can better take the way as before
in the beginning of nvda 2018.4.
cheers
paul otter


Question: How to Enable the Experimental UIA Support for Word in 2018.4 RC 2

David Goldfield
 

Hello.

For NVDA 2018.4 I recall reading about some text which could be inserted within the NVDA.ini file to enable experimental UIA support within Word. I lost the email with those instructions and wonder if someone could kindly repost the information?


Many thanks.


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Re: Tifkitecnia Demos

Luis Carlos González Moráles
 

Hi,
OK, I'm very confused now.
Updating the vocalizer engine from version 1.1 to version 2 or 3 takes
I'm afrade 1 or 2 so years?
Will be there more voices or languages in the future?

Rui Fontes wrote:

I am sorry, but my company is Tiflotecnia, not Code Factory...

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 00:35 de 15/12/2018, Gene escreveu:
When is your company going to get rid of the very annoying artifacts
in your implementation of Eloquence.  If I wanted Eloquence, and that
was all I wanted, I wouldn't buy the add on that has both
synthesizers.  I'd buy something like the SAPI version of Eloquence
that doesn't have these artifacts.  it's been three or more years
since this add-on was released and this problem, discussed many times
on this list, has not been corrected.  That is, it hasn't been
corrected as of a number of months ago, when the subject was
discussed last, and I'd be very surprised if it has been since.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Rui Fontes <mailto:rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>
*Sent:* Friday, December 14, 2018 5:56 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos

Hello!

Tiflotecnia is selling Vocalizer for NVDA since 2013.
Code Factory started selling Vocalizer for NVDA in 2016, after becoming
Nuance distributors for the assistive technology market... and our
supplier of Vocalizer licenses...

Both package requires the deactivation of the license prior to a format
or similar...

Tiflotecnia's Vocalizer allows a portable license in a portable NVDA...
Code Factory's Vocalizer requires you to install an activation in a PC,
and uninstalling it after using...

Tiflotecnia only provides Vocalizer and Code Factory provides Vocalizer
and Eloquence...

Our automatic language switching system is better then the one from Code
Factory...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 22:30 de 14/12/2018, Tyler Wood escreveu:
 > Hi,
 >
 > So to be clear, code factory is the only one that actually does this?
 >
 >
 > thanks
 >
 > On 2018-12-14 4:26 p.m., Nimer Jaber wrote:
 >> So long as you can prepare in advance, or you remember to deactivate
 >> your license, then you are right, activation and deactivation works
 >> well enough. I wonder how many mainstream products force a user to
 >> activate and deactivate a product though. Hell, Windows ties
 >> activation to your e-mail address. It doesn't make you deactivate
your
 >> computer if you format your drive, lose your information, or
whatever.
 >> Anyway, each to their own. I've stated my opinion on this
product, and
 >> if you feel that you have gotten value out of their product, then
 >> there you go.
 >>
 >> Thanks.
 >>
 >> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 2:13 PM Richard Wells <richwels@gmx.com
<mailto:richwels@gmx.com>
 >> <mailto:richwels@gmx.com>> wrote:
 >>
 >>     If you want to look at Tiflotecnia up close and personal, go
here:
 >> https://vocalizer-nvda.com/
 >>
 >> On 12/14/2018 2:40 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
 >>>
 >>> Hi,
 >>>
 >>>     Okay, this is all new to me. I thought code factory was the
only
 >>>     company that sold vocalizer voices hense why I didn't go
with them.
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>     Is there a link pointing to this other companie's offerings and
 >>>     how does licensing work?
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> Similarly, I'm lothed to throw the ridiculous amount of money at
 >>>     code factory for NVDA eloquence.
 >>>
 >>>     On 2018-12-14 2:33 p.m., Richard Wells wrote:
 >>>>
 >>>>     Nimer: You are actually expressing my feels about Code
Factory.
 >>>>     Having dealt with both, I choose Tiflotecnia. By the way, you
 >>>> got one thing wrong. Removing an authorization does put it back
 >>>>     in your available activations to be used again. I bought my
 >>>> original add-ons from A. T. Guys and even they have a devil of a
 >>>>     time getting Code Factory to respond to their requests for
 >>>> authorization resets. To keep this on topic, I am just glad I do
 >>>>     now have a workable solution for high-quality voices for NVDA.
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>> On 12/14/2018 12:17 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
 >>>>>     No working demo of the voices, no listening to sample of the
 >>>>>     voices working with NVDA, no new update with new voices or
 >>>>> added or  fixed features in over two years... I'm sorry but no
 >>>>>     matter how good the customer support might be, this is not a
 >>>>> company I want to throw my money at. If other users do, please
 >>>>>     have at it. I am glad some can make use of their product. I
 >>>>>     feel that it is a waste of money, and that this company is
not
 >>>>>     one I would trust with a single additional dollar. I
purchased
 >>>>>     this product a while back and I regret it very much. The
 >>>>>     licensing scheme is stupid, a user has no control to reset
his
 >>>>>     or her own keys if needed without contacting the support, the
 >>>>>     driver has bugs which haven't been addressed, no new
voices are
 >>>>>     supported even still after being promised an update for years
 >>>>>     no, and I am supposed to just blindly trust this company to
 >>>>>     keep supporting their products?
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Again, anyone who knows me that this is not how I like to
 >>>>>     respond to individuals or companies on any list, and I
 >>>>> generally have some amount of patience, reminding users of
 >>>>>     product development cycles and such, always looking for the
 >>>>> value in a product or service. After so many broken promises
 >>>>>     and lack of follow-through, I am unable to put any weight
 >>>>>     behind this product, or the company represented.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Thanks.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 5:56 AM Rui Fontes
 >>>>>     <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com
<mailto:rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>
 >>>>> <mailto:rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>> wrote:
 >>>>>
 >>>>> No, however you can use the Freedom Scientific page to hear
 >>>>>         the voices...
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Best regards,
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Rui Fontes
 >>>>> Tiflotecnia, Lda.
 >>>>>
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Às 04:47 de 14/12/2018, Mohith BP escreveu:
 >>>>> > Is there a audio / video of the voices?
 >>>>> >
 >>>>> > On 12/14/18, prem.translator@gmail.com
<mailto:prem.translator@gmail.com>
 >>>>> <mailto:prem.translator@gmail.com>
 >>>>> <prem.translator@gmail.com <mailto:prem.translator@gmail.com>
 >>>>> <mailto:prem.translator@gmail.com>> wrote:
 >>>>> >> Totally agree with Richard Wells. For now, vocalizer
 >>>>> from Tiflotecnia works
 >>>>> >> well with NVDA and their customer service is excellent.
 >>>>> The team always
 >>>>> >> assists me whenever I faced any problems, like the last
 >>>>> case I posted in the
 >>>>> >> list, I contacted the team off list, and they help me
 >>>>>         until the problem is
 >>>>> >> solved.
 >>>>> >>
 >>>>> >>
 >>>>> >>
 >>>>> >>
 >>>>> >
 >>>>> >
 >>>>> >
 >>>>> > .
 >>>>> >
 >>>>>
 >>>>>
 >>>>>
 >>>>>
 >>>>>
 >>>>> --
 >>>>> Cordially,
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Nimer Jaber
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Please take the time to read this signature completely as it
 >>>>> contains
 >>>>>     some information about the email you have just read and all
 >>>>>     attachments contained within as well as some valuable
resources and
 >>>>>     methods for contacting me if you have any questions or
wish to
 >>>>> talk.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
 >>>>>     addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended
recipient,
 >>>>>     please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of
this
 >>>>>     correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its
 >>>>> contents
 >>>>>     by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in
 >>>>>     civil or
 >>>>>     criminal charges. I have checked this email and all
corresponding
 >>>>>     attachments for security threats. However, security of your
 >>>>>     machine is
 >>>>>     up to you. Thanks.
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Registered Linux User 529141.
 >>>>> http://counter.li.org/
 >>>>>
 >>>>> To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for
windows XP
 >>>>>     and above, please click here:
 >>>>> http://www.nvda-project.org
 >>>>>
 >>>>> You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology
 >>>>> news.
 >>>>>
 >>>>>     To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me
 >>>>>     at (970) (658-0358) and I will do my best to respond to you
 >>>>>     promptly. Thank
 >>>>>     you, and have a great day!
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> --
 >> Cordially,
 >>
 >> Nimer Jaber
 >>
 >> Please take the time to read this signature completely as it
contains
 >> some information about the email you have just read and all
 >> attachments contained within as well as some valuable resources and
 >> methods for contacting me if you have any questions or wish to talk.
 >>
 >> The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
 >> addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
 >> please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
 >> correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its
contents
 >> by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in
civil or
 >> criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
 >> attachments for security threats. However, security of your
machine is
 >> up to you. Thanks.
 >>
 >> Registered Linux User 529141.
 >> http://counter.li.org/
 >>
 >> To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
 >> and above, please click here:
 >> http://www.nvda-project.org
 >>
 >> You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology
news.
 >>
 >> To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(970)
 >> (658-0358) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
 >> you, and have a great day!
 >




Re: Tifkitecnia Demos

Gene
 

I'm sorry.  I misunderstood your message.  its Code Factory that provides Eloquence and Vocalizer in the same add-on.  Your company only provides Vocalizer in the add-on.  Unless the problem has been corrected in the Code Factory add-on, I wouldn't consider buying  the Code Factory add-on unless I was buying it for Vocalizer and not for eloquence. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos

I am sorry, but my company is Tiflotecnia, not Code Factory...

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 00:35 de 15/12/2018, Gene escreveu:
> When is your company going to get rid of the very annoying artifacts in
> your implementation of Eloquence.  If I wanted Eloquence, and that was
> all I wanted, I wouldn't buy the add on that has both synthesizers.  I'd
> buy something like the SAPI version of Eloquence that doesn't have these
> artifacts.  it's been three or more years since this add-on was released
> and this problem, discussed many times on this list, has not been
> corrected.  That is, it hasn't been corrected as of a number of months
> ago, when the subject was discussed last, and I'd be very surprised if
> it has been since.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Rui Fontes <mailto:rui.fontes@...>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 14, 2018 5:56 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos
>
> Hello!
>
> Tiflotecnia is selling Vocalizer for NVDA since 2013.
> Code Factory started selling Vocalizer for NVDA in 2016, after becoming
> Nuance distributors for the assistive technology market... and our
> supplier of Vocalizer licenses...
>
> Both package requires the deactivation of the license prior to a format
> or similar...
>
> Tiflotecnia's Vocalizer allows a portable license in a portable NVDA...
> Code Factory's Vocalizer requires you to install an activation in a PC,
> and uninstalling it after using...
>
> Tiflotecnia only provides Vocalizer and Code Factory provides Vocalizer
> and Eloquence...
>
> Our automatic language switching system is better then the one from Code
> Factory...
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rui Fontes
> Tiflotecnia, Lda.
>
>
>
> Às 22:30 de 14/12/2018, Tyler Wood escreveu:
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > So to be clear, code factory is the only one that actually does this?
>  >
>  >
>  > thanks
>  >
>  > On 2018-12-14 4:26 p.m., Nimer Jaber wrote:
>  >> So long as you can prepare in advance, or you remember to deactivate
>  >> your license, then you are right, activation and deactivation works
>  >> well enough. I wonder how many mainstream products force a user to
>  >> activate and deactivate a product though. Hell, Windows ties
>  >> activation to your e-mail address. It doesn't make you deactivate your
>  >> computer if you format your drive, lose your information, or whatever.
>  >> Anyway, each to their own. I've stated my opinion on this product, and
>  >> if you feel that you have gotten value out of their product, then
>  >> there you go.
>  >>
>  >> Thanks.
>  >>
>  >> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 2:13 PM Richard Wells <richwels@...
> <mailto:richwels@...>
>  >> <mailto:richwels@...>> wrote:
>  >>
>  >>     If you want to look at Tiflotecnia up close and personal, go here:
>  >> https://vocalizer-nvda.com/
>  >>
>  >> On 12/14/2018 2:40 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
>  >>>
>  >>> Hi,
>  >>>
>  >>>     Okay, this is all new to me. I thought code factory was the only
>  >>>     company that sold vocalizer voices hense why I didn't go with them.
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>     Is there a link pointing to this other companie's offerings and
>  >>>     how does licensing work?
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> Similarly, I'm lothed to throw the ridiculous amount of money at
>  >>>     code factory for NVDA eloquence.
>  >>>
>  >>>     On 2018-12-14 2:33 p.m., Richard Wells wrote:
>  >>>>
>  >>>>     Nimer: You are actually expressing my feels about Code Factory.
>  >>>>     Having dealt with both, I choose Tiflotecnia. By the way, you
>  >>>> got one thing wrong. Removing an authorization does put it back
>  >>>>     in your available activations to be used again. I bought my
>  >>>> original add-ons from A. T. Guys and even they have a devil of a
>  >>>>     time getting Code Factory to respond to their requests for
>  >>>> authorization resets. To keep this on topic, I am just glad I do
>  >>>>     now have a workable solution for high-quality voices for NVDA.
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>> On 12/14/2018 12:17 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
>  >>>>>     No working demo of the voices, no listening to sample of the
>  >>>>>     voices working with NVDA, no new update with new voices or
>  >>>>> added or  fixed features in over two years... I'm sorry but no
>  >>>>>     matter how good the customer support might be, this is not a
>  >>>>> company I want to throw my money at. If other users do, please
>  >>>>>     have at it. I am glad some can make use of their product. I
>  >>>>>     feel that it is a waste of money, and that this company is not
>  >>>>>     one I would trust with a single additional dollar. I purchased
>  >>>>>     this product a while back and I regret it very much. The
>  >>>>>     licensing scheme is stupid, a user has no control to reset his
>  >>>>>     or her own keys if needed without contacting the support, the
>  >>>>>     driver has bugs which haven't been addressed, no new voices are
>  >>>>>     supported even still after being promised an update for years
>  >>>>>     no, and I am supposed to just blindly trust this company to
>  >>>>>     keep supporting their products?
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Again, anyone who knows me that this is not how I like to
>  >>>>>     respond to individuals or companies on any list, and I
>  >>>>> generally have some amount of patience, reminding users of
>  >>>>>     product development cycles and such, always looking for the
>  >>>>> value in a product or service. After so many broken promises
>  >>>>>     and lack of follow-through, I am unable to put any weight
>  >>>>>     behind this product, or the company represented.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Thanks.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 5:56 AM Rui Fontes
>  >>>>>     <rui.fontes@... <mailto:rui.fontes@...>
>  >>>>> <mailto:rui.fontes@...>> wrote:
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> No, however you can use the Freedom Scientific page to hear
>  >>>>>         the voices...
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Best regards,
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Rui Fontes
>  >>>>> Tiflotecnia, Lda.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Às 04:47 de 14/12/2018, Mohith BP escreveu:
>  >>>>> > Is there a audio / video of the voices?
>  >>>>> >
>  >>>>> > On 12/14/18, prem.translator@...
> <mailto:prem.translator@...>
>  >>>>> <mailto:prem.translator@...>
>  >>>>> <prem.translator@... <mailto:prem.translator@...>
>  >>>>> <mailto:prem.translator@...>> wrote:
>  >>>>> >> Totally agree with Richard Wells. For now, vocalizer
>  >>>>> from Tiflotecnia works
>  >>>>> >> well with NVDA and their customer service is excellent.
>  >>>>> The team always
>  >>>>> >> assists me whenever I faced any problems, like the last
>  >>>>> case I posted in the
>  >>>>> >> list, I contacted the team off list, and they help me
>  >>>>>         until the problem is
>  >>>>> >> solved.
>  >>>>> >>
>  >>>>> >>
>  >>>>> >>
>  >>>>> >>
>  >>>>> >
>  >>>>> >
>  >>>>> >
>  >>>>> > .
>  >>>>> >
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> --
>  >>>>> Cordially,
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Nimer Jaber
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Please take the time to read this signature completely as it
>  >>>>> contains
>  >>>>>     some information about the email you have just read and all
>  >>>>>     attachments contained within as well as some valuable
> resources and
>  >>>>>     methods for contacting me if you have any questions or wish to
>  >>>>> talk.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
>  >>>>>     addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended
> recipient,
>  >>>>>     please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
>  >>>>>     correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its
>  >>>>> contents
>  >>>>>     by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in
>  >>>>>     civil or
>  >>>>>     criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
>  >>>>>     attachments for security threats. However, security of your
>  >>>>>     machine is
>  >>>>>     up to you. Thanks.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> Registered Linux User 529141.
>  >>>>> http://counter.li.org/
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
>  >>>>>     and above, please click here:
>  >>>>> http://www.nvda-project.org
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology
>  >>>>> news.
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>>     To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me
>  >>>>>     at (970) (658-0358) and I will do my best to respond to you
>  >>>>>     promptly. Thank
>  >>>>>     you, and have a great day!
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> --
>  >> Cordially,
>  >>
>  >> Nimer Jaber
>  >>
>  >> Please take the time to read this signature completely as it contains
>  >> some information about the email you have just read and all
>  >> attachments contained within as well as some valuable resources and
>  >> methods for contacting me if you have any questions or wish to talk.
>  >>
>  >> The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
>  >> addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
>  >> please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
>  >> correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
>  >> by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
>  >> criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
>  >> attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
>  >> up to you. Thanks.
>  >>
>  >> Registered Linux User 529141.
>  >> http://counter.li.org/
>  >>
>  >> To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
>  >> and above, please click here:
>  >> http://www.nvda-project.org
>  >>
>  >> You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.
>  >>
>  >> To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (970)
>  >> (658-0358) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
>  >> you, and have a great day!
>  >
>
>
>



Re: Tifkitecnia Demos

Rui Fontes
 

I am sorry, but my company is Tiflotecnia, not Code Factory...

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 00:35 de 15/12/2018, Gene escreveu:

When is your company going to get rid of the very annoying artifacts in your implementation of Eloquence.  If I wanted Eloquence, and that was all I wanted, I wouldn't buy the add on that has both synthesizers.  I'd buy something like the SAPI version of Eloquence that doesn't have these artifacts.  it's been three or more years since this add-on was released and this problem, discussed many times on this list, has not been corrected.  That is, it hasn't been corrected as of a number of months ago, when the subject was discussed last, and I'd be very surprised if it has been since.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Rui Fontes <mailto:rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>
*Sent:* Friday, December 14, 2018 5:56 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos
Hello!
Tiflotecnia is selling Vocalizer for NVDA since 2013.
Code Factory started selling Vocalizer for NVDA in 2016, after becoming
Nuance distributors for the assistive technology market... and our
supplier of Vocalizer licenses...
Both package requires the deactivation of the license prior to a format
or similar...
Tiflotecnia's Vocalizer allows a portable license in a portable NVDA...
Code Factory's Vocalizer requires you to install an activation in a PC,
and uninstalling it after using...
Tiflotecnia only provides Vocalizer and Code Factory provides Vocalizer
and Eloquence...
Our automatic language switching system is better then the one from Code
Factory...
Best regards,
Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.
Às 22:30 de 14/12/2018, Tyler Wood escreveu:
> Hi,
>
> So to be clear, code factory is the only one that actually does this?
>
>
> thanks
>
> On 2018-12-14 4:26 p.m., Nimer Jaber wrote:
>> So long as you can prepare in advance, or you remember to deactivate
>> your license, then you are right, activation and deactivation works
>> well enough. I wonder how many mainstream products force a user to
>> activate and deactivate a product though. Hell, Windows ties
>> activation to your e-mail address. It doesn't make you deactivate your
>> computer if you format your drive, lose your information, or whatever.
>> Anyway, each to their own. I've stated my opinion on this product, and
>> if you feel that you have gotten value out of their product, then
>> there you go.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 2:13 PM Richard Wells <richwels@gmx.com
<mailto:richwels@gmx.com>
>> <mailto:richwels@gmx.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     If you want to look at Tiflotecnia up close and personal, go here:
>> https://vocalizer-nvda.com/
>>
>> On 12/14/2018 2:40 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>     Okay, this is all new to me. I thought code factory was the only
>>>     company that sold vocalizer voices hense why I didn't go with them.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Is there a link pointing to this other companie's offerings and
>>>     how does licensing work?
>>>
>>>
>>> Similarly, I'm lothed to throw the ridiculous amount of money at
>>>     code factory for NVDA eloquence.
>>>
>>>     On 2018-12-14 2:33 p.m., Richard Wells wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Nimer: You are actually expressing my feels about Code Factory.
>>>>     Having dealt with both, I choose Tiflotecnia. By the way, you
>>>> got one thing wrong. Removing an authorization does put it back
>>>>     in your available activations to be used again. I bought my
>>>> original add-ons from A. T. Guys and even they have a devil of a
>>>>     time getting Code Factory to respond to their requests for
>>>> authorization resets. To keep this on topic, I am just glad I do
>>>>     now have a workable solution for high-quality voices for NVDA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/14/2018 12:17 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
>>>>>     No working demo of the voices, no listening to sample of the
>>>>>     voices working with NVDA, no new update with new voices or
>>>>> added or  fixed features in over two years... I'm sorry but no
>>>>>     matter how good the customer support might be, this is not a
>>>>> company I want to throw my money at. If other users do, please
>>>>>     have at it. I am glad some can make use of their product. I
>>>>>     feel that it is a waste of money, and that this company is not
>>>>>     one I would trust with a single additional dollar. I purchased
>>>>>     this product a while back and I regret it very much. The
>>>>>     licensing scheme is stupid, a user has no control to reset his
>>>>>     or her own keys if needed without contacting the support, the
>>>>>     driver has bugs which haven't been addressed, no new voices are
>>>>>     supported even still after being promised an update for years
>>>>>     no, and I am supposed to just blindly trust this company to
>>>>>     keep supporting their products?
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, anyone who knows me that this is not how I like to
>>>>>     respond to individuals or companies on any list, and I
>>>>> generally have some amount of patience, reminding users of
>>>>>     product development cycles and such, always looking for the
>>>>> value in a product or service. After so many broken promises
>>>>>     and lack of follow-through, I am unable to put any weight
>>>>>     behind this product, or the company represented.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 5:56 AM Rui Fontes
>>>>>     <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com <mailto:rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>
>>>>> <mailto:rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> No, however you can use the Freedom Scientific page to hear
>>>>>         the voices...
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rui Fontes
>>>>> Tiflotecnia, Lda.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Às 04:47 de 14/12/2018, Mohith BP escreveu:
>>>>> > Is there a audio / video of the voices?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 12/14/18, prem.translator@gmail.com
<mailto:prem.translator@gmail.com>
>>>>> <mailto:prem.translator@gmail.com>
>>>>> <prem.translator@gmail.com <mailto:prem.translator@gmail.com>
>>>>> <mailto:prem.translator@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >> Totally agree with Richard Wells. For now, vocalizer
>>>>> from Tiflotecnia works
>>>>> >> well with NVDA and their customer service is excellent.
>>>>> The team always
>>>>> >> assists me whenever I faced any problems, like the last
>>>>> case I posted in the
>>>>> >> list, I contacted the team off list, and they help me
>>>>>         until the problem is
>>>>> >> solved.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > .
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>
>>>>> Nimer Jaber
>>>>>
>>>>> Please take the time to read this signature completely as it
>>>>> contains
>>>>>     some information about the email you have just read and all
>>>>>     attachments contained within as well as some valuable
resources and
>>>>>     methods for contacting me if you have any questions or wish to
>>>>> talk.
>>>>>
>>>>> The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
>>>>>     addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended
recipient,
>>>>>     please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
>>>>>     correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its
>>>>> contents
>>>>>     by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in
>>>>>     civil or
>>>>>     criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
>>>>>     attachments for security threats. However, security of your
>>>>>     machine is
>>>>>     up to you. Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Registered Linux User 529141.
>>>>> http://counter.li.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
>>>>>     and above, please click here:
>>>>> http://www.nvda-project.org
>>>>>
>>>>> You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology
>>>>> news.
>>>>>
>>>>>     To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me
>>>>>     at (970) (658-0358) and I will do my best to respond to you
>>>>>     promptly. Thank
>>>>>     you, and have a great day!
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cordially,
>>
>> Nimer Jaber
>>
>> Please take the time to read this signature completely as it contains
>> some information about the email you have just read and all
>> attachments contained within as well as some valuable resources and
>> methods for contacting me if you have any questions or wish to talk.
>>
>> The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
>> addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
>> please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
>> correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
>> by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
>> criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
>> attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
>> up to you. Thanks.
>>
>> Registered Linux User 529141.
>> http://counter.li.org/
>>
>> To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
>> and above, please click here:
>> http://www.nvda-project.org
>>
>> You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.
>>
>> To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (970)
>> (658-0358) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
>> you, and have a great day!
>


Re: Tifkitecnia Demos

Gene
 

When is your company going to get rid of the very annoying artifacts in your implementation of Eloquence.  If I wanted Eloquence, and that was all I wanted, I wouldn't buy the add on that has both synthesizers.  I'd buy something like the SAPI version of Eloquence that doesn't have these artifacts.  it's been three or more years since this add-on was released and this problem, discussed many times on this list, has not been corrected.  That is, it hasn't been corrected as of a number of months ago, when the subject was discussed last, and I'd be very surprised if it has been since.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tifkitecnia Demos

Hello!

Tiflotecnia is selling Vocalizer for NVDA since 2013.
Code Factory started selling Vocalizer for NVDA in 2016, after becoming
Nuance distributors for the assistive technology market... and our
supplier of Vocalizer licenses...

Both package requires the deactivation of the license prior to a format
or similar...

Tiflotecnia's Vocalizer allows a portable license in a portable NVDA...
Code Factory's Vocalizer requires you to install an activation in a PC,
and uninstalling it after using...

Tiflotecnia only provides Vocalizer and Code Factory provides Vocalizer
and Eloquence...

Our automatic language switching system is better then the one from Code
Factory...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 22:30 de 14/12/2018, Tyler Wood escreveu:
> Hi,
>
> So to be clear, code factory is the only one that actually does this?
>
>
> thanks
>
> On 2018-12-14 4:26 p.m., Nimer Jaber wrote:
>> So long as you can prepare in advance, or you remember to deactivate
>> your license, then you are right, activation and deactivation works
>> well enough. I wonder how many mainstream products force a user to
>> activate and deactivate a product though. Hell, Windows ties
>> activation to your e-mail address. It doesn't make you deactivate your
>> computer if you format your drive, lose your information, or whatever.
>> Anyway, each to their own. I've stated my opinion on this product, and
>> if you feel that you have gotten value out of their product, then
>> there you go.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 2:13 PM Richard Wells <richwels@...
>> <mailto:richwels@...>> wrote:
>>
>>     If you want to look at Tiflotecnia up close and personal, go here:
>>     https://vocalizer-nvda.com/
>>
>>     On 12/14/2018 2:40 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi,
>>>
>>>     Okay, this is all new to me. I thought code factory was the only
>>>     company that sold vocalizer voices hense why I didn't go with them.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Is there a link pointing to this other companie's offerings and
>>>     how does licensing work?
>>>
>>>
>>>     Similarly, I'm lothed to throw the ridiculous amount of money at
>>>     code factory for NVDA eloquence.
>>>
>>>     On 2018-12-14 2:33 p.m., Richard Wells wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Nimer: You are actually expressing my feels about Code Factory.
>>>>     Having dealt with both, I choose Tiflotecnia. By the way, you
>>>>     got one thing wrong. Removing an authorization does put it back
>>>>     in your available activations to be used again. I bought my
>>>>     original add-ons from A. T. Guys and even they have a devil of a
>>>>     time getting Code Factory to respond to their requests for
>>>>     authorization resets. To keep this on topic, I am just glad I do
>>>>     now have a workable solution for high-quality voices for NVDA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On 12/14/2018 12:17 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
>>>>>     No working demo of the voices, no listening to sample of the
>>>>>     voices working with NVDA, no new update with new voices or
>>>>>     added or  fixed features in over two years... I'm sorry but no
>>>>>     matter how good the customer support might be, this is not a
>>>>>     company I want to throw my money at. If other users do, please
>>>>>     have at it. I am glad some can make use of their product. I
>>>>>     feel that it is a waste of money, and that this company is not
>>>>>     one I would trust with a single additional dollar. I purchased
>>>>>     this product a while back and I regret it very much. The
>>>>>     licensing scheme is stupid, a user has no control to reset his
>>>>>     or her own keys if needed without contacting the support, the
>>>>>     driver has bugs which haven't been addressed, no new voices are
>>>>>     supported even still after being promised an update for years
>>>>>     no, and I am supposed to just blindly trust this company to
>>>>>     keep supporting their products?
>>>>>
>>>>>     Again, anyone who knows me that this is not how I like to
>>>>>     respond to individuals or companies on any list, and I
>>>>>     generally have some amount of patience, reminding users of
>>>>>     product development cycles and such, always looking for the
>>>>>     value in a product or service. After so many broken promises
>>>>>     and lack of follow-through, I am unable to put any weight
>>>>>     behind this product, or the company represented.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>     On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 5:56 AM Rui Fontes
>>>>>     <rui.fontes@...
>>>>>     <mailto:rui.fontes@...>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         No, however you can use the Freedom Scientific page to hear
>>>>>         the voices...
>>>>>
>>>>>         Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>         Rui Fontes
>>>>>         Tiflotecnia, Lda.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         Às 04:47 de 14/12/2018, Mohith BP escreveu:
>>>>>         > Is there a audio / video of the voices?
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         > On 12/14/18, prem.translator@...
>>>>>         <mailto:prem.translator@...>
>>>>>         <prem.translator@...
>>>>>         <mailto:prem.translator@...>> wrote:
>>>>>         >> Totally agree with Richard Wells. For now, vocalizer
>>>>>         from Tiflotecnia works
>>>>>         >> well with NVDA and their customer service is excellent.
>>>>>         The team always
>>>>>         >> assists me whenever I faced any problems, like the last
>>>>>         case I posted in the
>>>>>         >> list, I contacted the team off list, and they help me
>>>>>         until the problem is
>>>>>         >> solved.
>>>>>         >>
>>>>>         >>
>>>>>         >>
>>>>>         >>
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         >
>>>>>         > .
>>>>>         >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     --
>>>>>     Cordially,
>>>>>
>>>>>     Nimer Jaber
>>>>>
>>>>>     Please take the time to read this signature completely as it
>>>>>     contains
>>>>>     some information about the email you have just read and all
>>>>>     attachments contained within as well as some valuable resources and
>>>>>     methods for contacting me if you have any questions or wish to
>>>>>     talk.
>>>>>
>>>>>     The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
>>>>>     addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
>>>>>     please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
>>>>>     correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its
>>>>>     contents
>>>>>     by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in
>>>>>     civil or
>>>>>     criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
>>>>>     attachments for security threats. However, security of your
>>>>>     machine is
>>>>>     up to you. Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Registered Linux User 529141.
>>>>>     http://counter.li.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>     To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
>>>>>     and above, please click here:
>>>>>     http://www.nvda-project.org
>>>>>
>>>>>     You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology
>>>>>     news.
>>>>>
>>>>>     To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me
>>>>>     at (970) (658-0358) and I will do my best to respond to you
>>>>>     promptly. Thank
>>>>>     you, and have a great day!
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cordially,
>>
>> Nimer Jaber
>>
>> Please take the time to read this signature completely as it contains
>> some information about the email you have just read and all
>> attachments contained within as well as some valuable resources and
>> methods for contacting me if you have any questions or wish to talk.
>>
>> The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
>> addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
>> please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
>> correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
>> by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
>> criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
>> attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
>> up to you. Thanks.
>>
>> Registered Linux User 529141.
>> http://counter.li.org/
>>
>> To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
>> and above, please click here:
>> http://www.nvda-project.org
>>
>> You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.
>>
>> To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (970)
>> (658-0358) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank
>> you, and have a great day!
>



Re: Tifkitecnia Demos

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

Tiflotecnia is selling Vocalizer for NVDA since 2013.
Code Factory started selling Vocalizer for NVDA in 2016, after becoming Nuance distributors for the assistive technology market... and our supplier of Vocalizer licenses...

Both package requires the deactivation of the license prior to a format or similar...

Tiflotecnia's Vocalizer allows a portable license in a portable NVDA...
Code Factory's Vocalizer requires you to install an activation in a PC, and uninstalling it after using...

Tiflotecnia only provides Vocalizer and Code Factory provides Vocalizer and Eloquence...

Our automatic language switching system is better then the one from Code Factory...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 22:30 de 14/12/2018, Tyler Wood escreveu:

Hi,
So to be clear, code factory is the only one that actually does this?
thanks
On 2018-12-14 4:26 p.m., Nimer Jaber wrote:
So long as you can prepare in advance, or you remember to deactivate your license, then you are right, activation and deactivation works well enough. I wonder how many mainstream products force a user to activate and deactivate a product though. Hell, Windows ties activation to your e-mail address. It doesn't make you deactivate your computer if you format your drive, lose your information, or whatever. Anyway, each to their own. I've stated my opinion on this product, and if you feel that you have gotten value out of their product, then there you go.

Thanks.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 2:13 PM Richard Wells <richwels@gmx.com <mailto:richwels@gmx.com>> wrote:

If you want to look at Tiflotecnia up close and personal, go here:
https://vocalizer-nvda.com/

On 12/14/2018 2:40 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

Okay, this is all new to me. I thought code factory was the only
company that sold vocalizer voices hense why I didn't go with them.


Is there a link pointing to this other companie's offerings and
how does licensing work?


Similarly, I'm lothed to throw the ridiculous amount of money at
code factory for NVDA eloquence.

On 2018-12-14 2:33 p.m., Richard Wells wrote:

Nimer: You are actually expressing my feels about Code Factory.
Having dealt with both, I choose Tiflotecnia. By the way, you
got one thing wrong. Removing an authorization does put it back
in your available activations to be used again. I bought my
original add-ons from A. T. Guys and even they have a devil of a
time getting Code Factory to respond to their requests for
authorization resets. To keep this on topic, I am just glad I do
now have a workable solution for high-quality voices for NVDA.


On 12/14/2018 12:17 PM, Nimer Jaber wrote:
No working demo of the voices, no listening to sample of the
voices working with NVDA, no new update with new voices or
added or  fixed features in over two years... I'm sorry but no
matter how good the customer support might be, this is not a
company I want to throw my money at. If other users do, please
have at it. I am glad some can make use of their product. I
feel that it is a waste of money, and that this company is not
one I would trust with a single additional dollar. I purchased
this product a while back and I regret it very much. The
licensing scheme is stupid, a user has no control to reset his
or her own keys if needed without contacting the support, the
driver has bugs which haven't been addressed, no new voices are
supported even still after being promised an update for years
no, and I am supposed to just blindly trust this company to
keep supporting their products?

Again, anyone who knows me that this is not how I like to
respond to individuals or companies on any list, and I
generally have some amount of patience, reminding users of
product development cycles and such, always looking for the
value in a product or service. After so many broken promises
and lack of follow-through, I am unable to put any weight
behind this product, or the company represented.

Thanks.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 5:56 AM Rui Fontes
<rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com
<mailto:rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com>> wrote:

No, however you can use the Freedom Scientific page to hear
the voices...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 04:47 de 14/12/2018, Mohith BP escreveu:
> Is there a audio / video of the voices?
>
> On 12/14/18, prem.translator@gmail.com
<mailto:prem.translator@gmail.com>
<prem.translator@gmail.com
<mailto:prem.translator@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Totally agree with Richard Wells. For now, vocalizer
from Tiflotecnia works
>> well with NVDA and their customer service is excellent.
The team always
>> assists me whenever I faced any problems, like the last
case I posted in the
>> list, I contacted the team off list, and they help me
until the problem is
>> solved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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