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Re: NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Laz
 

No. When someone sends a new message by hijacking an existing thread
and deleting all traces of the previous thread is still an incorrect
way to send a new message. There's information in the headers which
keeps it associated with the original thread. The only way to send a
new message to the list is by sending a new message to the list
address.

Laz moderator

On 12/12/18, Kwork <istherelife@gmail.com> wrote:
Um, be careful as the subject line agreed with the content of the
message. I think it was you who hijacked it away from the subject. Make
sure to read the subject line along with the content of a message so as
to avoid embarrassment.

On 12/12/2018 12:46 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Please do not hijack a thread by replying to it and changing both the
subject
and the topic of discussion.

Please start a new thread for a new topic.

Thanks,


Antony.

On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 20:03:09, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Hi All,
I am no computer whiz, and I would appreciate, those of you who are, to
take a look at the www.spreely.com social network to see what can be
done
from our end to make the sight more accessible. These are some of the
issues I encountered so far: Links do not open right away;
Editing to comment or post are very difficult as the voice becomes
silent
and the cursor tends to get stuck; Difficult to locate received comments
and notifications;
The developers Marc and Terry will also appreciate receiving your
experts
feedback. Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 1:50
PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject:

And if all else fails often typing it into google can give a clue.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird error on boot.


If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting it
not
to start on logon see fi that fixes it

If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes

Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it

Good luck
From: John Isige
Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.

Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming
from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809
and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."


Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I
suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't
show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.


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Re: NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

Hi all,

My apology for unintentionally hijacking a thread message.  I never initiated a new thread on this forum and did not think it would cause any concern after I changed the subject line.

Mea culpa.

Regards

Blessings

Pascal

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 3:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

 

The message is about starting a completely new message when starting a new thread.  If you change the subject line in an old message, and remove all the message content. it still has information embedded in the message that causes it to be placed in the old thread if people read mail by conversation.  It may also cause the message to be placed in the old thread in the archive. 

 

In addition the message said:

Please do not hijack a thread by replying to it and changing both the subject
> and the topic of discussion.  The message was written about both the subject and the message.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Kwork

Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 2:16 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

 

Um, be careful as the subject line agreed with the content of the
message. I think it was you who hijacked it away from the subject. Make
sure to read the subject line along with the content of a message so as
to avoid embarrassment.

On 12/12/2018 12:46 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
> Please do not hijack a thread by replying to it and changing both the subject
> and the topic of discussion.
>
> Please start a new thread for a new topic.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 20:03:09, Pascal Lambert wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> I am no computer whiz, and I would appreciate, those of you who are, to
>> take a look at the www.spreely.com social network to see what can be done
>> from our end to make the sight more accessible.  These are some of the
>> issues I encountered so far: Links do not open right away;
>> Editing to comment or post are very difficult as the voice becomes silent
>> and the cursor tends to get stuck; Difficult to locate received comments
>> and notifications;
>> The developers Marc and Terry will also appreciate receiving your experts
>> feedback. Many thanks
>> Blessings
>> Pascal
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
>> Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 1:50 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject:
>>
>> And if all else fails often typing it into google can give a clue.
>>   Brian
>>
>> bglists@...
>> Sent via blueyonder.
>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>> in the display name field.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley@...>
>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird error on boot.
>>
>>
>> If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting it not
>> to start on logon see fi that fixes it
>>
>>   If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes
>>
>> Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it
>>
>> Good luck
>> From: John Isige
>> Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.
>>
>> Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming
>> from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809
>> and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.
>>
>>
>> "Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
>> dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."
>>
>>
>> Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I
>> suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't
>> show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.


Re: NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

grin. a closed mouth gathers no feet. I get caught by that one all the time!
Brian

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Please address personal E-mail to:-
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kwork" <istherelife@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network


Um, be careful as the subject line agreed with the content of the message. I think it was you who hijacked it away from the subject. Make sure to read the subject line along with the content of a message so as to avoid embarrassment.

On 12/12/2018 12:46 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Please do not hijack a thread by replying to it and changing both the subject
and the topic of discussion.

Please start a new thread for a new topic.

Thanks,


Antony.

On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 20:03:09, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Hi All,
I am no computer whiz, and I would appreciate, those of you who are, to
take a look at the www.spreely.com social network to see what can be done
from our end to make the sight more accessible. These are some of the
issues I encountered so far: Links do not open right away;
Editing to comment or post are very difficult as the voice becomes silent
and the cursor tends to get stuck; Difficult to locate received comments
and notifications;
The developers Marc and Terry will also appreciate receiving your experts
feedback. Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 1:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject:

And if all else fails often typing it into google can give a clue.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird error on boot.


If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting it not
to start on logon see fi that fixes it

If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes

Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it

Good luck
From: John Isige
Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.

Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming
from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809
and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."


Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I
suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't
show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.


Re: NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Well that does not show up as being done for me. maybe some mail handlers are more explicit than others are.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network


Please do not hijack a thread by replying to it and changing both the subject
and the topic of discussion.

Please start a new thread for a new topic.

Thanks,


Antony.

On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 20:03:09, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Hi All,
I am no computer whiz, and I would appreciate, those of you who are, to
take a look at the www.spreely.com social network to see what can be done
from our end to make the sight more accessible. These are some of the
issues I encountered so far: Links do not open right away;
Editing to comment or post are very difficult as the voice becomes silent
and the cursor tends to get stuck; Difficult to locate received comments
and notifications;
The developers Marc and Terry will also appreciate receiving your experts
feedback. Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 1:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject:

And if all else fails often typing it into google can give a clue.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird error on boot.


If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting it not
to start on logon see fi that fixes it

If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes

Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it

Good luck
From: John Isige
Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.

Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming
from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809
and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."


Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I
suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't
show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.
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Re: Weird error on boot.

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Clue the best answers are in the web results near the bottom after all the video stuff.
I'm assuming you have amd Video hardware as this does seem to be a common problemwith them.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird error on boot.



https://www.google.com/search?q=%22MOM.Implementation%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8



As it were..
Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Isige" <gwynn@tds.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:04 PM
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.


Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809 and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."


Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.





Re: NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Gene
 

The message is about starting a completely new message when starting a new thread.  If you change the subject line in an old message, and remove all the message content. it still has information embedded in the message that causes it to be placed in the old thread if people read mail by conversation.  It may also cause the message to be placed in the old thread in the archive. 
 
In addition the message said:
Please do not hijack a thread by replying to it and changing both the subject
> and the topic of discussion.  The message was written about both the subject and the message.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Kwork
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Um, be careful as the subject line agreed with the content of the
message. I think it was you who hijacked it away from the subject. Make
sure to read the subject line along with the content of a message so as
to avoid embarrassment.

On 12/12/2018 12:46 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
> Please do not hijack a thread by replying to it and changing both the subject
> and the topic of discussion.
>
> Please start a new thread for a new topic.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 20:03:09, Pascal Lambert wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> I am no computer whiz, and I would appreciate, those of you who are, to
>> take a look at the www.spreely.com social network to see what can be done
>> from our end to make the sight more accessible.  These are some of the
>> issues I encountered so far: Links do not open right away;
>> Editing to comment or post are very difficult as the voice becomes silent
>> and the cursor tends to get stuck; Difficult to locate received comments
>> and notifications;
>> The developers Marc and Terry will also appreciate receiving your experts
>> feedback. Many thanks
>> Blessings
>> Pascal
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
>> Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 1:50 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject:
>>
>> And if all else fails often typing it into google can give a clue.
>>   Brian
>>
>> bglists@...
>> Sent via blueyonder.
>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>> in the display name field.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley@...>
>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird error on boot.
>>
>>
>> If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting it not
>> to start on logon see fi that fixes it
>>
>>   If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes
>>
>> Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it
>>
>> Good luck
>> From: John Isige
>> Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.
>>
>> Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming
>> from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809
>> and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.
>>
>>
>> "Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
>> dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."
>>
>>
>> Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I
>> suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't
>> show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.



Re: NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Antony Stone
 

The subject does agree with the content.

It was posted as a reply to a totally different thread (original subject "Weird
error on boot.", as you can see if you read the message which Pascal replied
to below).

Yes, I could have created my own new thread to discuss this topic, but I
thought replying to the specific email I was complaing about would make the
point a little more directly, and to the person who hijacked the original
thread. I apologise if this was not clear.


Antony.

On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 21:16:05, Kwork wrote:

Um, be careful as the subject line agreed with the content of the
message. I think it was you who hijacked it away from the subject. Make
sure to read the subject line along with the content of a message so as
to avoid embarrassment.

On 12/12/2018 12:46 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Please do not hijack a thread by replying to it and changing both the
subject and the topic of discussion.

Please start a new thread for a new topic.

Thanks,


Antony.

On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 20:03:09, Pascal Lambert wrote:
Hi All,
I am no computer whiz, and I would appreciate, those of you who are, to
take a look at the www.spreely.com social network to see what can be
done from our end to make the sight more accessible. These are some of
the issues I encountered so far: Links do not open right away;
Editing to comment or post are very difficult as the voice becomes
silent and the cursor tends to get stuck; Difficult to locate received
comments and notifications;
The developers Marc and Terry will also appreciate receiving your
experts feedback. Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, December 12,
2018 1:50 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject:

And if all else fails often typing it into google can give a clue.

Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird error on boot.


If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting it
not to start on logon see fi that fixes it

If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes

Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it

Good luck
From: John Isige
Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.

Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming
from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809
and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."


Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I
suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't
show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.
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Re: NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Kwork
 

Um, be careful as the subject line agreed with the content of the message. I think it was you who hijacked it away from the subject. Make sure to read the subject line along with the content of a message so as to avoid embarrassment.

On 12/12/2018 12:46 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Please do not hijack a thread by replying to it and changing both the subject
and the topic of discussion.

Please start a new thread for a new topic.

Thanks,


Antony.

On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 20:03:09, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Hi All,
I am no computer whiz, and I would appreciate, those of you who are, to
take a look at the www.spreely.com social network to see what can be done
from our end to make the sight more accessible. These are some of the
issues I encountered so far: Links do not open right away;
Editing to comment or post are very difficult as the voice becomes silent
and the cursor tends to get stuck; Difficult to locate received comments
and notifications;
The developers Marc and Terry will also appreciate receiving your experts
feedback. Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 1:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject:

And if all else fails often typing it into google can give a clue.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird error on boot.


If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting it not
to start on logon see fi that fixes it

If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes

Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it

Good luck
From: John Isige
Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.

Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming
from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809
and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."


Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I
suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't
show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.


Re: NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Antony Stone
 

Please do not hijack a thread by replying to it and changing both the subject
and the topic of discussion.

Please start a new thread for a new topic.

Thanks,


Antony.

On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 20:03:09, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Hi All,
I am no computer whiz, and I would appreciate, those of you who are, to
take a look at the www.spreely.com social network to see what can be done
from our end to make the sight more accessible. These are some of the
issues I encountered so far: Links do not open right away;
Editing to comment or post are very difficult as the voice becomes silent
and the cursor tends to get stuck; Difficult to locate received comments
and notifications;
The developers Marc and Terry will also appreciate receiving your experts
feedback. Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 1:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject:

And if all else fails often typing it into google can give a clue.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird error on boot.


If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting it not
to start on logon see fi that fixes it

If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes

Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it

Good luck
From: John Isige
Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.

Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming
from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809
and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."


Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I
suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't
show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.
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NVDA and the new Spreely.com social network

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

Hi All,
I am no computer whiz, and I would appreciate, those of you who are, to take a look at the www.spreely.com social network to see what can be done from our end to make the sight more accessible. These are some of the issues I encountered so far:
Links do not open right away;
Editing to comment or post are very difficult as the voice becomes silent and the cursor tends to get stuck;
Difficult to locate received comments and notifications;
The developers Marc and Terry will also appreciate receiving your experts feedback.
Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal

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And if all else fails often typing it into google can give a clue.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird error on boot.


If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting it not
to start on logon see fi that fixes it

If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes

Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it

Good luck
From: John Isige
Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.

Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming
from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809
and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."


Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I
suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't
show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.


Re: Weird error on boot.

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https://www.google.com/search?q=%22MOM.Implementation%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8



As it were..
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From: "John Isige" <gwynn@tds.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:04 PM
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.


Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809 and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."


Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.



Re: Weird error on boot.

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And if all else fails often typing it into google can give a clue.
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From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird error on boot.


If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting it not to start on logon see fi that fixes it

If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes

Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it

Good luck
From: John Isige
Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.

Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming
from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809
and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."


Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I
suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't
show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.


Re: Change minimum windows version required flag

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

The reason why its set as it is that later windows Kernals have different and indeed extra routines that later NVDa versions need to function. If you remove the restriction, NVDA will just not work and all sorts of system errors will occur, probably crashing the system.
Brian

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From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Change minimum windows version required flag


i wish to know too.
in that case, i can test newer versions of nvda and participate in
github and help developers more!

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Why do you need to know. If you change it for an earlier one it will still

not work correctly.
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 9:18 AM
Subject: [nvda] Change minimum windows version required flag


Hi,

Where in the NVDA setting files is the minimum windows version value
saved?

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Re: Weird error on boot.

Chris
 

If you think its coming from that specific program then try setting it not to start on logon see fi that fixes it

 

If it fixes the issue then reinstall the program see if that fixes

 

Otherwise the error is to generic to be certain what is causing it

 

Good luck

From: John Isige
Sent: 12 December 2018 18:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Weird error on boot.

 

Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming

from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809

and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.

 

 

"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its

dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."

 

 

Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I

suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't

show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.

 

 

 

 


Weird error on boot.

John Isige
 

Hey all. I'm writing in hopes that somebody knows where this is coming from. It's possible it's NVDA but I doubt it. I updated Windows to 1809 and everything works fine. But every time I boot up, I get this error.


"Could not load file or assembly 'MOM.Implementation' or one of its
dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified."


Anybody know where this is from, and more importantly, how to fix it? I suspected TWBlue but I just quit and ran it again, and the error didn't show up. Oh yeah, I'm running NVDA 2018.4-RC1 on 64-bit Windows.


Re: college course question

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Brian,


This is great to know. I used to be a medical transcriber years ago and Hadley used to have a medical transcription course years ago but they canceled it.


Rosemarie



On 12/12/2018 6:44 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
By the way, The Lighthouse of Houston offers an 18-month distance learning medical transcription program, which is what my former JAWS student was planning to enroll in.  Additional information is available on this webpage:  https://www.houstonlighthouse.org/education-programs/ 
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Re: college course question

 

By the way, The Lighthouse of Houston offers an 18-month distance learning medical transcription program, which is what my former JAWS student was planning to enroll in.  Additional information is available on this webpage:  https://www.houstonlighthouse.org/education-programs/ 
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Re: college course question

Sarah k Alawami
 

Nice. But sadly they don't I don't think have that here, I'm not in the med field anymore but like I said I deal with many websites personally and yeah it's annoying.

On 12 Dec 2018, at 5:57, Brian K. Lingard wrote:

Dear Sarah & List:

Friend of mine in Oregon swears by an App called My Chart.

Displays test results, doctor appointments, all easily read with Voiceover on His iPhone X. Brian K. Lingard

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf of Sarah k Alawami Sent: December 11, 2018 23:10 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] college course question

I doubt that will be accessible. You can try it, but I have not so far have had any good experience with online medical anything thus far. I have to deal with med stuff for my personal life and it is not accessible.

On 11 Dec 2018, at 17:48, The Wolf wrote:

Hello I am thinking about going to a college for a 9-month program in medical billing and coding.

the online platform that the school uses is canvas

is this platform blind friendly? or should I just look in to other colleges that use a different platform?

oh and I would be using nvda of course

unless the school disability office purchases jaws for me but I would prefer to use nvda

thanks for any help you can give.

Hank

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Re: college course question

 

Bravo, Antony!!  Having actually had a student of my own who was taking a medical coding and billing course that's precisely how I read the query, too.

Since most of these systems I've encountered in recent years are web based it makes accessibility much easier, regardless of the screen reader.  If they're not, then you're at the mercy of whether they've been scripted (in the case of JAWS) or not and, to some extent, the luck of the draw as certain applications just seem to be more accessible by chance than others are when accessibility was not specifically a part of their design specs.

A great many of the data entry systems for medical billing have now gone web-based as well.  Web-based access methods have proven to be an accessibility godsend simply because every major web browser is supported by the well-known screen readers.  Not that even these are necessarily perfect, but it's generally a matter of working out kinks.

The biggest problem I've had with institutions of higher learning and accessibility is that they still fail to understand that you can't just drop a blind person in, even one that is incredibly proficient with one or more screen readers, to a complex web application and have them be able to use it with the speed and proficiency of someone who can see (and has the advantage of being able to instantly ignore the parts that need to be ignored).   I have had to go to the mat in several local colleges to get them to understand that they needed to provide access to a "sandbox version" of their registration system, course material management system, and other odd bits to my students several months ahead of the time when they would be actual students so we could train on how to use those and they'd be ready to hit the academic ground running.  You cannot (at least not if you care about being in any way fair or providing reasonable accommodations) expect a blind student new to a given school to be trying to learn not only their course material but all of the systems they need to use at the same time that are simply much more tedious and hard to get acquainted with when a screen reader is required.

Hank is being very proactive in trying to determine how accessible or inaccessible what he's going to be expected to use actually is.  If the institution has a disability services person, and many do, these questions should be addressed to them.  If they don't know the answers and you're the "guinea pig blind student" (and I've had a couple of these as my students who were firsts at the schools they attended) then expect that you will have to be constantly advocating for yourself, educating your disability services person, and teaching people about what reasonable accommodations are all about.  Also be prepared in many cases to have scads of PDF materials distributed for courses that are image scanned PDFs from way back that you will have to OCR process to make accessible.  Then tell your instructors that they need to go back and do this on all image PDFs they intend to continue using.

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Re: college course question

Antony Stone
 

Surely the question was about the college's teaching platform, not about
medical appointment applications?

There are very likely two questions here:

1. Does NVDA work with Canvas, the teaching platform used by this particular
college?

2. Does NVDA, or any other screen reader, work with the medical billing
systems which the student is likely to encounter after completing the training
course? Hopefully there will be a good element of this in the training course
itself.

Regards,


Antony.

On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 14:57:23, Brian K. Lingard wrote:

Dear Sarah & List:

Friend of mine in Oregon swears by an App called My Chart.

Displays test results, doctor appointments, all easily read with Voiceover
on His iPhone X.
Brian K. Lingard


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf of Sarah k
Alawami Sent: December 11, 2018 23:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] college course question

I doubt that will be accessible. You can try it, but I have not so far have
had any good experience with online medical anything thus far. I have to
deal with med stuff for my personal life and it is not accessible.

On 11 Dec 2018, at 17:48, The Wolf wrote:
Hello I am thinking about going to a college for a 9-month program in
medical billing and coding.

the online platform that the school uses is canvas

is this platform blind friendly? or should I just look in to other
colleges that use a different platform?

oh and I would be using nvda of course

unless the school disability office purchases jaws for me but I would
prefer to use nvda

thanks for any help you can give.

Hank
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