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Re: NVDA release date was Re: [nvda] Easier way to edit exception dictionary?

Antony Stone
 

Er, it was not Mohammed who hijacked the thread. He replied to the question
in the thread previously hijacked by Najaf, and also asked Najaf not to hijack
threads in future. He also helpfully changed the subject line to reflect the
question asked in the hijack.

Regards,

Antony

On Sunday 03 March 2019 at 10:56:42, Gene wrote:

First, do you, Mohammed know what hijacking threads is? We don't know. It
is when you use an existing thread to introduce a new and unrelated
subject. Start a completely new thread. Don't change the subject line
and then begin a new thread using the old thread. Code remains which
makes e-mail programs see it as a continuation of the old thread under
some conditions. It also causes the new thread to appear as the old
thread in the list archives.

If you don't know how to start a completely new thread, ask here and say
what e-mail program you are using and people will be happy to tell you how
to do this. But, as has been said, don't continue to hijack threads.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Mohamed
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 3:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: NVDA release date was Re: [nvda] Easier way to edit exception
dictionary?


Najaf, please stop highjacking threads. But to answer your question, NVDA
2019.1 apparently still has some issues that are holding it back, though a
beta should hopefully be out in the coming days.


On 3/2/2019 12:05 PM, ( NAJAF . Naqvi ) wrote:

nvda 2019.1 final release date


On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 11:34 AM Jeff Samco <jsamco@jps.net> wrote:

I have set up a sizeable exception dictionary. If I wish to locate
and edit an entry I find it very tedious to arrow through the list.
Is there an easier method for locating a specific entry? Or, is there
a way to alphabetize the list to facilitate moving quickly through the
list? Thanks,
Jeff
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Re: NVDA release date was Re: [nvda] Easier way to edit exception dictionary?

Mohamed
 

Sorry. It seemed like Najaf had been posting the question several times as replies to different threads, perhaps I was getting the idea wrong.

On 3/3/2019 4:56 AM, Gene wrote:
First, do you, Mohammed know what hijacking threads is?  We don't know.  It is when you use an existing thread to introduce a new and unrelated subject.  Start a completely new thread.  Don't change the subject line and then begin a new thread using the old thread.  Code remains which makes e-mail programs see it as a continuation of the old thread under some conditions.  It also causes the new thread to appear as the old thread in the list archives. 
 
If you don't know how to start a completely new thread, ask here and say what e-mail program you are using and people will be happy to tell you how to do this.  But, as has been said, don't continue to hijack threads.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mohamed
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 3:48 AM
Subject: NVDA release date was Re: [nvda] Easier way to edit exception dictionary?

Najaf, please stop highjacking threads. But to answer your question, NVDA 2019.1 apparently still has some issues that are holding it back, though a beta should hopefully be out in the coming days.

On 3/2/2019 12:05 PM, ( NAJAF . Naqvi ) wrote:
nvda 2019.1 final release date 

On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 11:34 AM Jeff Samco <jsamco@...> wrote:
I have set up a sizeable exception dictionary. If I wish to locate
and edit an entry I find it very tedious to arrow through the list.
Is there an easier method for locating a specific entry? Or, is there
a way to alphabetize the list to facilitate moving quickly through the list?
Thanks,
Jeff





Re: NVDA release date was Re: [nvda] Easier way to edit exception dictionary?

Gene
 

First, do you, Mohammed know what hijacking threads is?  We don't know.  It is when you use an existing thread to introduce a new and unrelated subject.  Start a completely new thread.  Don't change the subject line and then begin a new thread using the old thread.  Code remains which makes e-mail programs see it as a continuation of the old thread under some conditions.  It also causes the new thread to appear as the old thread in the list archives. 
 
If you don't know how to start a completely new thread, ask here and say what e-mail program you are using and people will be happy to tell you how to do this.  But, as has been said, don't continue to hijack threads.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Mohamed
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 3:48 AM
Subject: NVDA release date was Re: [nvda] Easier way to edit exception dictionary?

Najaf, please stop highjacking threads. But to answer your question, NVDA 2019.1 apparently still has some issues that are holding it back, though a beta should hopefully be out in the coming days.

On 3/2/2019 12:05 PM, ( NAJAF . Naqvi ) wrote:
nvda 2019.1 final release date 

On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 11:34 AM Jeff Samco <jsamco@...> wrote:
I have set up a sizeable exception dictionary. If I wish to locate
and edit an entry I find it very tedious to arrow through the list.
Is there an easier method for locating a specific entry? Or, is there
a way to alphabetize the list to facilitate moving quickly through the list?
Thanks,
Jeff





NVDA release date was Re: [nvda] Easier way to edit exception dictionary?

Mohamed
 

Najaf, please stop highjacking threads. But to answer your question, NVDA 2019.1 apparently still has some issues that are holding it back, though a beta should hopefully be out in the coming days.

On 3/2/2019 12:05 PM, ( NAJAF . Naqvi ) wrote:
nvda 2019.1 final release date 

On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 11:34 AM Jeff Samco <jsamco@...> wrote:
I have set up a sizeable exception dictionary. If I wish to locate
and edit an entry I find it very tedious to arrow through the list.
Is there an easier method for locating a specific entry? Or, is there
a way to alphabetize the list to facilitate moving quickly through the list?
Thanks,
Jeff





Re: application error in latest alpha

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

No!  Or at least I don't remember installing or uninstalling anything.    And to be honest about it, it wasn't a thought process or anything intelligent but pure guess work.  In fact, I was pleasantly surprised to find the errors gone.  Cheers!

On 3/3/2019 5:11 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Hmm, well that did not work for me but then I'm getting different errors.
I wonder what deregistered the files. Have you uninstalled anything recently?

Might be of use to know for others sake.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jaffar Sidek" <jaffar.sidek10@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2019 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] application error in latest alpha


O I got it fixed by going to tools and registering the dlls and then restarting my pc. Cheers!

On 3/2/2019 5:42 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Does it do it if you disable all addones on a restart?
It looks a little like it might be related to an add on.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jaffar Sidek" <jaffar.sidek10@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2019 1:14 AM
Subject: [nvda] application error in latest alpha


Hi. I am getting this error every time I restart the latest NVDA alpha:

Error message below

//////////

NvdaHelper remote(outProcMgrThreadFunc) Dialog: error registering focus WinEventHook

//////////

There is then an ok button to get out of the dialog. How it affects NVDA's workings, I am not as yet sure as I am just trying the alpha out. Will report if there is any misbehavior. Cheers!







Re: Easier way to edit exception dictionary?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

What?
Actually I think the dictionaries have kind of grown over the years and perhaps the current way they are edited is now not so convenient as it used to be as there are so many conditions you can change on them.
I'm not sure how high up the ladder of priority this might be, but you can certainly suggest it on that page which was published a while back now. If enough want it then it might be a good one to do. I did wonder if it might be something an add o might be able to do?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "( NAJAF . Naqvi )" <najafnaqvi471@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2019 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Easier way to edit exception dictionary?


nvda 2019.1 final release date

On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 11:34 AM Jeff Samco <jsamco@jps.net> wrote:

I have set up a sizeable exception dictionary. If I wish to locate
and edit an entry I find it very tedious to arrow through the list.
Is there an easier method for locating a specific entry? Or, is there
a way to alphabetize the list to facilitate moving quickly through the
list?
Thanks,
Jeff






Re: application error in latest alpha

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Hmm, well that did not work for me but then I'm getting different errors.
I wonder what deregistered the files. Have you uninstalled anything recently?

Might be of use to know for others sake.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jaffar Sidek" <jaffar.sidek10@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2019 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] application error in latest alpha


O I got it fixed by going to tools and registering the dlls and then restarting my pc. Cheers!

On 3/2/2019 5:42 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Does it do it if you disable all addones on a restart?
It looks a little like it might be related to an add on.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jaffar Sidek" <jaffar.sidek10@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2019 1:14 AM
Subject: [nvda] application error in latest alpha


Hi. I am getting this error every time I restart the latest NVDA alpha:

Error message below

//////////

NvdaHelper remote(outProcMgrThreadFunc) Dialog: error registering focus WinEventHook

//////////

There is then an ok button to get out of the dialog. How it affects NVDA's workings, I am not as yet sure as I am just trying the alpha out. Will report if there is any misbehavior. Cheers!





Re: Introducing myself

cisco
 

and yes, the violin doesn't have threts like the guitar does.

On 3/3/2019 2:49 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I guess the hard part is that the violin doesn't have frets like a guitar does.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of cisco
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 11:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introducing myself

hi. well, the violin is a bit hard to learn, but once you get the hang of it. you are fine.

On 3/2/2019 6:35 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Cisco,

Welcome to this great list. Wow, that's neat you play 3 different musical instruments. I tried taking the violin years ago but I only got as far as Twinkle Twinkle Little Star. I can play a little bit of the piano and my dad taught me how to play the guitar when I was living at home. Need to get back into practice.

Take care. I hope you'll enjpoy our community.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
cisco
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 7:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introducing myself

hi all. thanks for welcoming me so well! i am glad to here that there are some people from my country!

On 3/2/2019 4:14 PM, Mallard wrote:
Hello Cisco,


Welcome to this great group!


I'm from Italy too, and it's so good to know there are such talented
young kids over here!


And you must be very talented indeed, if you can play all those
instrument at such a young age.


I hope you will like our community, and find lots of good advice.


Ciao, take care,

Ollie




Il 02/03/2019 12:26, cisco ha scritto:
Hello all. my name is Cisco and I am from Italy.

I started using NVDA when i was 8 years old, now I am 14..

i am a musitian, who plays the violin, the guitar and the piano.

well, from me, for now, that's all! have a grate day!


Cisco Tissera.











Re: Introducing myself

cisco
 

Hè, i could come there and we could play in a band!

On 3/3/2019 2:04 AM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello Cisco,
Very welcome from Brazil! I'm sure you'll enjoy the list, learn and teach so many things.
Playing guitar always was my dream and iT hasn't change, now only if I had a bit of patience... :)
Well I play the drums, we could very well play together on a band! Now just come to Brazil! LOL

Em 02/03/2019 08:26, cisco escreveu:
Hello all. my name is Cisco and I am from Italy.

I started using NVDA when i was 8 years old, now I am 14..

i am a musitian, who plays the violin, the guitar and the piano.

well, from me, for now, that's all! have a grate day!


Cisco Tissera.







Re: Easier way to edit exception dictionary?

 

Thanks Blaster!
I saved these instructions :)

I need to know how to look on the group's archive. They say it always helps, but I never knew how to deal with it the right way :(

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 03/03/2019 01:03, Blaster escreveu:

Marcio, Here's Giles reply reposted as you requested:

The easiest way I've found to edit or delete words in a dictionary
with many entries is to go to  AppDate/Roaming/NVDA/speechDicts and
then open either the default.dic file or a dictionary in one  of the
voiceDicts folder in a text editor like Notepad where you can use the
normal search methods  to find the word, or part of a word, pattern or
its replacement.
In the file the flag for whether it is case sensative is 1 for true
and 0 for false. The second  number is the flag for whether it is
anywehre, whole word only or a regular expression ... anywehre  is 0,
regular expression is 1 and whole word is 2.
For example, a entry I added the other day was to get the word dynasty
to be pronounced the UK way  rather than the American way. This is the
line of the default.dic file ... in case it doesn't show  up here I'll
indicate the tab character with [tab] dynasty[tab]dinasty[tab]0[tab]0
If you make edits to a dictionary file then you have to re-start NVDA
for the dictionary edits to  take effect, but it is often far easier
doing it that way than trying to find the word you want to  edit in
the NVDA dictionary manager.
Hope you find this useful :)
Giles


On 3/2/19, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21@...> wrote:
Hi,
I've been off most of the time today and I'm still finishing reading the
emails for the day.
By accident, I ended up deleting Gile's explanation on this thread about
numbers for editing words on NVDA dictionaries.
Anyone would be kind enough to repost it or just tell me what are these
numbers and what each of them does?

Thanks a million and I apologize for being so careless, I'll be better
next time :)

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>

Em 02/03/2019 03:34, Jeff Samco escreveu:
I have set up a sizeable exception dictionary. If I wish to locate and
edit an entry I find it very tedious to arrow through the list. Is
there an easier method for locating a specific entry? Or, is there a
way to alphabetize the list to facilitate moving quickly through the
list?
Thanks,
Jeff














Re: Easier way to edit exception dictionary?

Blaster
 

Marcio, Here's Giles reply reposted as you requested:

The easiest way I've found to edit or delete words in a dictionary
with many entries is to go to AppDate/Roaming/NVDA/speechDicts and
then open either the default.dic file or a dictionary in one of the
voiceDicts folder in a text editor like Notepad where you can use the
normal search methods to find the word, or part of a word, pattern or
its replacement.
In the file the flag for whether it is case sensative is 1 for true
and 0 for false. The second number is the flag for whether it is
anywehre, whole word only or a regular expression ... anywehre is 0,
regular expression is 1 and whole word is 2.
For example, a entry I added the other day was to get the word dynasty
to be pronounced the UK way rather than the American way. This is the
line of the default.dic file ... in case it doesn't show up here I'll
indicate the tab character with [tab] dynasty[tab]dinasty[tab]0[tab]0
If you make edits to a dictionary file then you have to re-start NVDA
for the dictionary edits to take effect, but it is often far easier
doing it that way than trying to find the word you want to edit in
the NVDA dictionary manager.
Hope you find this useful :)
Giles

On 3/2/19, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,
I've been off most of the time today and I'm still finishing reading the
emails for the day.
By accident, I ended up deleting Gile's explanation on this thread about
numbers for editing words on NVDA dictionaries.
Anyone would be kind enough to repost it or just tell me what are these
numbers and what each of them does?

Thanks a million and I apologize for being so careless, I'll be better
next time :)

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>

Em 02/03/2019 03:34, Jeff Samco escreveu:
I have set up a sizeable exception dictionary. If I wish to locate and
edit an entry I find it very tedious to arrow through the list. Is
there an easier method for locating a specific entry? Or, is there a
way to alphabetize the list to facilitate moving quickly through the
list?
Thanks,
Jeff








Re: Introducing myself

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I guess the hard part is that the violin doesn't have frets like a guitar does.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of cisco
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 11:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introducing myself

hi. well, the violin is a bit hard to learn, but once you get the hang of it. you are fine.

On 3/2/2019 6:35 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Cisco,

Welcome to this great list. Wow, that's neat you play 3 different musical instruments. I tried taking the violin years ago but I only got as far as Twinkle Twinkle Little Star. I can play a little bit of the piano and my dad taught me how to play the guitar when I was living at home. Need to get back into practice.

Take care. I hope you'll enjpoy our community.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
cisco
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 7:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Introducing myself

hi all. thanks for welcoming me so well! i am glad to here that there are some people from my country!

On 3/2/2019 4:14 PM, Mallard wrote:
Hello Cisco,


Welcome to this great group!


I'm from Italy too, and it's so good to know there are such talented
young kids over here!


And you must be very talented indeed, if you can play all those
instrument at such a young age.


I hope you will like our community, and find lots of good advice.


Ciao, take care,

Ollie




Il 02/03/2019 12:26, cisco ha scritto:
Hello all. my name is Cisco and I am from Italy.

I started using NVDA when i was 8 years old, now I am 14..

i am a musitian, who plays the violin, the guitar and the piano.

well, from me, for now, that's all! have a grate day!


Cisco Tissera.









Re: Introducing myself

 

Hello Cisco,
Very welcome from Brazil! I'm sure you'll enjoy the list, learn and teach so many things.
Playing guitar always was my dream and iT hasn't change, now only if I had a bit of patience... :)
Well I play the drums, we could very well play together on a band! Now just come to Brazil! LOL

Em 02/03/2019 08:26, cisco escreveu:

Hello all. my name is Cisco and I am from Italy.

I started using NVDA when i was 8 years old, now I am 14..

i am a musitian, who plays the violin, the guitar and the piano.

well, from me, for now, that's all! have a grate day!


Cisco Tissera.







Re: Easier way to edit exception dictionary?

 

Hi,
I've been off most of the time today and I'm still finishing reading the emails for the day.
By accident, I ended up deleting Gile's explanation on this thread about numbers for editing words on NVDA dictionaries.
Anyone would be kind enough to repost it or just tell me what are these numbers and what each of them does?

Thanks a million and I apologize for being so careless, I'll be better next time :)
Em 02/03/2019 03:34, Jeff Samco escreveu:

I have set up a sizeable exception dictionary. If I wish to locate and edit an entry I find it very tedious to arrow through the list. Is there an easier method for locating a specific entry? Or, is there a way to alphabetize the list to facilitate moving quickly through the list?
Thanks,
Jeff







Re: Meandering NVDA Miscellany (including that it's alive and well)

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

Brian,

Thank you for pointing out the various Win10 groups.  I felt my question was appropriate as it relates to how Windows update affects NVDA.  My message and question also were in response to Molly’s comment stating that a windows stable version solved her similar problems with NVDA.  I have no time to sit at another chat group to raise a question that is related to how NVDA  behaves with Win10.  As I am typing this message, I had to restart NVDA 4 times.

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 4:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Meandering NVDA Miscellany (including that it's alive and well)

 

Pascal asks:  What does it mean switching to "a stable version of Windows?"

Molly answers:  We probably should discuss this on the chat group.


To which I say, Amen!, since the question really isn’t about NVDA.  An even better idea, though, would be considering having a look at the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Group Archive: 
https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topics

and considering possible membership there.   They also have a subgroup specifically for discussing Windows 10 Insider Versions and Builds (pre-release) among the group membership who are Windows Insiders that aren’t directly relevant to the current version Windows 10 that’s been released.  As is the case for any of the group-subgroup arrangements on Groups.io, you must be a member of the main group before you can subscribe to a subgroup.  For additional information, send a message to the Help address first.

Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users E-Mail Addresses:

Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Insiders Subgroup E-Mail Addresses:

 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

And, since there has been a consensus both via private communication and right here on this list that this topic has officially run its course, I will officially declare it closed (and will lock it if that proves to be necessary).

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Meandering NVDA Miscellany (including that it's alive and well)

Gary Greico <pianotuner3@...>
 

Thank you.


On 02-Mar-19 2:25 PM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Yes change the topic title as it is misleading.

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 1:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Meandering NVDA Miscellany (including that it's alive and well)

 

Well, that response from the cohort has been quick, and unanimous!

The topic that had been,  Is NVDA really dying? Can I do anything to help?, is now this one.  If folks want to continue discussion regarding NVDA and Win10 or just let this topic die, that's fine.

For those of you who killed it off in its previous guise via "Mute this Topic," feel free to immediately do the same for its retitled self.  At least now the group archive, and an active topic, will no longer suggest that NVDA is on its way out when nothing could be further from the truth.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: application error in latest alpha

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

O I got it fixed by going to tools and registering the dlls and then restarting my pc.  Cheers!

On 3/2/2019 5:42 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Does it do it if you disable all addones on a restart?
It looks a little like it might be related to an add on.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jaffar Sidek" <jaffar.sidek10@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2019 1:14 AM
Subject: [nvda] application error in latest alpha


Hi. I am getting this error every time I restart the latest NVDA alpha:

Error message below

//////////

NvdaHelper remote(outProcMgrThreadFunc) Dialog: error registering focus WinEventHook

//////////

There is then an ok button to get out of the dialog. How it affects NVDA's workings, I am not as yet sure as I am just trying the alpha out. Will report if there is any misbehavior. Cheers!





Re: backing up thunderbird

Arlene
 

Hi list: Arlene writing from this new laptop. when I tried to put
gmail onto thunderbird I could not do it! My gmail address is old. can
I still do it? If so, how do I tell if this gmail is on imap. How do
do it on the site itself. any help will be appreciated. thanks.

On 3/2/19, The Wolf <hank.smith966@gmail.com> wrote:
how do you restore your mail using the portable?


On 3/2/2019 6:06 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:

There's an easier way than this. Get ThunderBird portable from
portable apps, and just tell the portable apps client to install
itself in your DropBox or one drive folder or whatever cloud service
you use. This way, the portable apps client, when ran, will
automatically check for TB updates and be on every computer you
personally use.

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Re: Meandering NVDA Miscellany (including that it's alive and well)

 

Pascal asks:  What does it mean switching to "a stable version of Windows?"

Molly answers:  We probably should discuss this on the chat group.


To which I say, Amen!, since the question really isn’t about NVDA.  An even better idea, though, would be considering having a look at the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Group Archive: 
https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topics

and considering possible membership there.   They also have a subgroup specifically for discussing Windows 10 Insider Versions and Builds (pre-release) among the group membership who are Windows Insiders that aren’t directly relevant to the current version Windows 10 that’s been released.  As is the case for any of the group-subgroup arrangements on Groups.io, you must be a member of the main group before you can subscribe to a subgroup.  For additional information, send a message to the Help address first.

Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users E-Mail Addresses:

Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Insiders Subgroup E-Mail Addresses:

 
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And, since there has been a consensus both via private communication and right here on this list that this topic has officially run its course, I will officially declare it closed (and will lock it if that proves to be necessary).

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Re: Meandering NVDA Miscellany (including that it's alive and well)

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi 😀
We probably should discuss this on the chat group.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 2:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA really dying? Can I do anything to help?

What does it mean switching to "a stable version of Windows?"
Forgive what might appear as a dumb question!
Thanks
Blessings
Pascal
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Zachary Morris
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 11:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA really dying? Can I do anything to help?

Hello,
That was my laptop as well. When it was on insider builds, NVDA would be super slow with UIAa and everywhere in general. NVDA also used to crash during updates, and going back to a stable version of windows helped it significantly.

On 3/2/2019 09:28, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
Hi ☺
What version of Windows are you running? I found the insider previews made my machine very unstable, which in turn caused NVDA not to work properly. Switching to the latest stable release fixed the problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pascal
Lambert
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 10:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA really dying? Can I do anything to help?

Yes, the issue is the Windows environment which causes havoc with the NVDA each time it is updated. As a result, one day NVDA is working just fine and the next it is sputtering, stuttering, and you have to restart it so frequently. The situation is so frustrating that I am considering switching to a Mac computer.
Blessings
Pascal
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Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2019 5:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA really dying? Can I do anything to help?

I don't believe that is true at all. The issue you mention applies to all screenreaders, and is why there are fewer than their were.
My reading of the situation is this, but its my opinion and I do not want to start a war here, so if you want to discuss this use a more general group.
1 Windows is effectively putting out a new version of windows every 6 months. This gives problems to screenreaders as they do change a lot of the api.
2. They are really ramping up Narrator development and changing keys to agree more with NVDA by the looks of recent releases.
3 A lot of people are still clinging to Windows 7 as they did with XP, and of course this complicates things a lot.
Due to new changes in Windows for example the new ARM processor architecture is being implemented for windows and most people are going to then have to cater for.
32 bit X86, 32 bit and 64 bit new architecture and the current multi core I series of 64 bit chips as well.
Thus NVDA has to move to Python 3.x as I see Dropbox also has recently, and that is not a trivial issue considering the changes to the language and all the various add ons and bits of code written by contributors out there.
It might get a bit rough, but unless somebody else quits then I think things will get better. The more complex things get the more can and does go wrong.

I do think that NVDA is coping well with the changes up to now, and do not think that Jaws has got away Scot free, I saw many updates last year and although I have not signed up this year as any changes will only affect windows 10 which I am avoiding as long as possible for the reasons mentioned, then I do not know. It seems to me that Jaws are effectively inventing mini apps to cope with things that they cannot cope with. This started with virtual ribbon emulation of old menus etc. I actually like that idea as to me ribbons only make sense to the sighted with an overview, but that is debatable and not something I want to get into on here.
Look at it this way though, it does seem that if you really want to keep up you may need to learn Narrator and nvda and sometimes even Jaws who can of course afford to do more with their larger budget.
Oh, and talking about Jamie? I have seen several recent code changes from him in the last few days, and he is active on the github list as well, so he is still around.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@hotmail.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2019 1:41 AM
Subject: [nvda] Is NVDA really dying? Can I do anything to help?


Hi,


I haven't updated NVDA since 2018.1 due to issues that seemed to crop
up around every release. Now I'm hearing from others in a Skype group
I'm a member of that NVDA has been going downhill since Jamie left
the project and it's going to die outright soon because it can't keep
up with competition.


NVDA has been my screen-reader of choice since I discovered it in
late
2011 and I don't want it to be forever lost. I can't donate right
now, and I'm not a programmer, but is there anything I can do to
help? This project has been a faithful friend to me and I want to
fight for it in any way I possibly can.