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Re: command prompt spelling out output

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Yes speak typed words not characters, but I also notice this is not a universal issue, ie sometimes it will sometimes it wont.
Brian

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From: "marcio via Groups.Io" <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] command prompt spelling out output


It's really annoying. I ever wanted to know a way to make it stops.
Looking for this thread. Hope we can get some good answers.

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Em 15/01/2019 15:32, enes sarıbaş escreveu:
hi,

Is there a way to prevent NVDA from spelling out the output when
speaked typed characters is on? This is extremely annoying.







Re: Win10 not landing on the desktop when started

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Whenever I hear the word tablet, I think of pills for medication. I think its an unfortunate choice of word by the industry myself. I often chuckle at it when I think of somebody swallowing the tablet.
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From: "Richard Wells" <richwels@gmx.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win10 not landing on the desktop when started


Pascal: It sounds like you may have accidentally activated Tablet mode.
Press WINDOWS-KEY+A and make sure the Tablet button is not pressed. If
it is, press SPACE-BAR to toggle it off.

On 1/15/2019 8:39 AM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Hi All,

Please help! For some reason I cannot figure out, when I start my
computer, it does not land on the desktop but on something called
‘life at a glancd-group header” with some icons under for calendar,
weather…

I probably did something unintentionally and now I cannot find a way
to get back to the desktop. Pleas help.

Boy, I am glad this list is there for some of us who are not computer
savvy!

Many thanks.

Blessings

Pascal



Re: Win10 not landing on the desktop when started

 

Hi,
Presenting desktop by default: already possible depending on what kind of
device on is using (fixed way back in Windows 8.1).
Cheers,
Jsoeph

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Win10 not landing on the desktop when started

Yes not sure why but usually even in 7 nowadays, the focus ends up on the
start button, but of course Microsoft never did like the name and tried to
remove it once but then put it back after complaints, not they seem to be
doing something different again. I personally feel that unless its been
configured by a user, they should present a typical standard windows start
and desktop to users. First impressions and all that.
Brian

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From: "Chris Mullins" <cjmullins29@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win10 not landing on the desktop when started


Hi

Use the Windows command Windows key+d to move to the desktop list,
pressing
Windows key+d again will take you back to where you were prior to moving
to
the desktop, it acts like a toggle. The "Life at a glance" sounds like
its
the icons on the start screen.



Cheers

Chris



.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal
Lambert
Sent: 15 January 2019 14:40
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Win10 not landing on the desktop when started



Hi All,

Please help! For some reason I cannot figure out, when I start my
computer,
it does not land on the desktop but on something called 'life at a
glancd-group header" with some icons under for calendar, weather.

I probably did something unintentionally and now I cannot find a way to
get
back to the desktop. Pleas help.

Boy, I am glad this list is there for some of us who are not computer
savvy!


Many thanks.

Blessings

Pascal







Re: Win10 not landing on the desktop when started

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Yes not sure why but usually even in 7 nowadays, the focus ends up on the start button, but of course Microsoft never did like the name and tried to remove it once but then put it back after complaints, not they seem to be doing something different again. I personally feel that unless its been configured by a user, they should present a typical standard windows start and desktop to users. First impressions and all that.
Brian

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From: "Chris Mullins" <cjmullins29@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win10 not landing on the desktop when started


Hi

Use the Windows command Windows key+d to move to the desktop list, pressing
Windows key+d again will take you back to where you were prior to moving to
the desktop, it acts like a toggle. The "Life at a glance" sounds like its
the icons on the start screen.



Cheers

Chris



.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal
Lambert
Sent: 15 January 2019 14:40
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Win10 not landing on the desktop when started



Hi All,

Please help! For some reason I cannot figure out, when I start my computer,
it does not land on the desktop but on something called 'life at a
glancd-group header" with some icons under for calendar, weather.

I probably did something unintentionally and now I cannot find a way to get
back to the desktop. Pleas help.

Boy, I am glad this list is there for some of us who are not computer savvy!


Many thanks.

Blessings

Pascal






Re: screen curtain

Brice Mijares
 

Thank you.

On 1/15/2019 11:24 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Screen Curtain won't really affect power usage; essentially, it uses Windows API to turn monitor output to almost black.
Cheers,
Joseph
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Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 11:21 AM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] screen curtain
If you have screen curtain toggled on, does this mean the monitor is off and is saving energy? thanks.


Re: off topic: about android:

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Have you tried the Espeak list?
Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 12:50 PM
Subject: [nvda] off topic: about android:


hi every one.
if someone has android 9 with espeak, please email me privately.
thanks for any help, God bless you!

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Re: What does this error mean?

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Its not usually fatal in any way, it just means Help I'm confused.. grin.
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Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] What does this error mean?


I got that error once but I can't remember now what I was doing. I remember feeling a bit alarmed by it, though. I've not seen it again since then, though.

Annette

On 1/14/2019 9:57 PM, Clarissa Mitchell wrote:
Hello NVDA users. For a little while now, I have been seeing this when
I run, particularly, Firefox with NVDA, although I can't really be
sure it's Firefox that is causing the problem. But Firefox does appear
to be very sluggish with NVDA. Here is the message:

The window title says: NVDA helper remote injection terminate
and the dialog says: error, waiting for local thread to die, already
dead or not responding

I notice this sometimes when I press CTRL+ALT+n to restart NVDA after
it has stopped speaking for some unknown reason.

I just got the NVDA update today, and it did not fix the problem. I
think I first noticed this error last week. I have never encountered
such an error before.


Re: screen curtain

 

Hi,
Screen Curtain won't really affect power usage; essentially, it uses Windows API to turn monitor output to almost black.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 11:21 AM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] screen curtain

If you have screen curtain toggled on, does this mean the monitor is off and is saving energy? thanks.


Re: Want to upgrade computer

 

Hi,

Depends on what might happen in January 2020.

Based on past experience with Windows XP, I expect one or more of the following will happen, given that support for Windows 7 won’t be extended for consumers:

  1. Regular reminder delivered via a cumulative update: In March 2014, Microsoft sent out an update that reminded Windows XP users of impending end of support on April 8, 2014. I expect a similar campaign to be launched by Microsoft later this year via a cumulative update for Windows 7 users.
  2. Promotion of Microsoft 365 or a consumer equivalent: one of the biggest money makers for Microsoft recently has been Microsoft 365, a bundle that packaged Windows 10, Office 365 ProPlus, and mobility management suite. Although this has been promoted heavily as an incentive for businesses to upgrade to Windows 10, I expect a consumer version to be announced or something similar to show up.
  3. A security vulnerability affecting Windows 7 is announced later: similar to a Windows XP configuration issue that caused organizations to become vulnerable to Wannacry in 2017, I expect somebody will announce and/or develop a malware that targets unpatched Windows 7 a while after it is no longer supported. Wannacry (a ransomware that exploited flaws in SMB 1.0) was one of the latest issues that caused organizations to migrate away from Windows XP, and I expect something similar for Windows 7 to surface in 2020 or later.

 

As for NVDA’s support for Windows 7 (a completely different thread), I’d leave it up to NV Access to announce something about that when they are ready. As far as my add-ons are concerned (another completely different thread), I plan to support Windows 7 systems until the day NVDA itself stops supporting them.

Cheers,

Jsoeph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 11:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

 

So does that mean hundreds of millions of people will be buying a new computer a year from now?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: January-15-19 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

 

Hi,

The official answer: January 14, 2020 )one year left).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

 

It is very easy to find out.  Do a Google search for end of Windows 7 support and see what known reliable sources say. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:18 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

 

I am hearing different times for the end of win 7 support;  mid jan 2020, mid 2020,  any other bids?

Thanks,

Monte

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Clare Page
Sent: January-15-19 4:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

 

Hi!

Actually, 32-bit software works fine on a 64-bit computer. The Windows 7 laptop I’m using right now is 64-bit, and, although some programs have 64-bit versions which I have installed, I haven’t had problems with the ones I use which are only 32-bit, and some of those are pretty old. So is my computer actually, I bought it back in 2011, but I knew I’d do a certain amount of multi-tasking with it, so I got one with 4 GB of RAM. It’s only more recently that I’ve heard of people having much more RAM than that. I’m considering upgrading my computer as well, as Windows 7 is no longer supported from mid-January 2020, so I’m reading this thread with interest, it might give me some idea of what to look for as far as specification goes when the time comes to upgrade.

Bye for now!

From Clare

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: lundi 14 janvier 2019 18:34
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

 

Actually if you can handle it I found a speed improvement with 64 bit windows on win7 with 4gb ram.

But if you like older software I'd stay with 32 bit.

 

 

On 15/01/2019 12:51 AM, Gene wrote:

I doubt what you are saying is correct.  Its true that 32bit Windows is limited in memory access, as you say.  But at the same time, 32 bit versions of Windows require far less memory and I very much doubt that Windows 10 is much more, if at all memory intensive than Windows 7 or Windows 8.  Memory needs for 32bit Windows are dramatically less than for 64bit.  I don't know if this is true, but the limitation may make Windows 10 run less efficiently if a very memory intensive program is being used.  But for typical uses, I doubt there is a problem.

 

All of which may have no bearing on the current situation because the computer may be a 64 bit computer and the version of Windows that may be upgraded to may well be 64bit.  But for anyone who has a 32bit computer who is following the thread, I think this point needs further discussion.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 5:37 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

 

If you have a 32-bit version of Windows (no matter whether the machine's
hardware is 32- or 64-bit) then it will not use more than 3Gbytes of RAM.

This tends to give disappointing performance when running a screenreader
alongside other applications, as well as being a waste of money for the
unusable RAM.

Antony.

On Monday 14 January 2019 at 12:35:38, Gene wrote:

> Isn't there a 32 bit version of Windows 10?  What if the machine is a 32bit
> machine?
>
> Also, what version of Windows is currently being run?  You may just have
> minor annoyances when Microsoft imposes two full upgrades on you a year.
> Microsoft may slow the schedule down but we don't know if it will, but
> some people have more annoying problems or even serious ones after an
> imposed Microsoft upgrade on occasion.  So my question is, why do you want
> to upgrade?  If the reason isn't pressing, you might want to leave things
> as they are.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original message -----
>
> From: Antony Stone
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 5:22 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer
>
>
> 1. We don't know what you regard as a "normal Windows 10 user".
>
> 2. I would recommend more than 4Gbytes of RAM, and make certain you have
> 64- bit Windows.
>
> 3. See the thread on this list starting Friday 11th entitled "Minimum Specs
> for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications".
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Monday 14 January 2019 at 12:16:38, farhan israk wrote:
> > I want to upgrade my computer. Is core i3 processor and 4gb ram enough
> > for normal windows 10 user?

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screen curtain

Brice Mijares
 

If you have screen curtain toggled on, does this mean the monitor is off and is saving energy? thanks.


Re: Want to upgrade computer

Monte Single
 

A lot of older machines will not have the right hardware to run win 10.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: January-15-19 1:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

 

But what's the link between buying a new computer and updating Windows? I can't get your point here, really.


Cheers,
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Em 15/01/2019 17:09, Monte Single escreveu:

So does that mean hundreds of millions of people will be buying a new computer a year from now?

�

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: January-15-19 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

�

Hi,

The official answer: January 14, 2020 )one year left).

Cheers,

Joseph

�

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

�

It is very easy to find out.� Do a Google search for end of Windows 7 support and see what known reliable sources say.�

�

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:18 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

�

I am hearing different times for the end of win 7 support;� mid jan 2020, mid 2020,� any other bids?

Thanks,

Monte

�

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Clare Page
Sent: January-15-19 4:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

�

Hi!

Actually, 32-bit software works fine on a 64-bit computer. The Windows 7 laptop I�m using right now is 64-bit, and, although some programs have 64-bit versions which I have installed, I haven�t had problems with the ones I use which are only 32-bit, and some of those are pretty old. So is my computer actually, I bought it back in 2011, but I knew I�d do a certain amount of multi-tasking with it, so I got one with 4 GB of RAM. It�s only more recently that I�ve heard of people having much more RAM than that. I�m considering upgrading my computer as well, as Windows 7 is no longer supported from mid-January 2020, so I�m reading this thread with interest, it might give me some idea of what to look for as far as specification goes when the time comes to upgrade.

Bye for now!

From Clare

�

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: lundi 14 janvier 2019 18:34
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

�

Actually if you can handle it I found a speed improvement with 64 bit windows on win7 with 4gb ram.

But if you like older software I'd stay with 32 bit.

�

�

On 15/01/2019 12:51 AM, Gene wrote:

I doubt what you are saying is correct.� Its true that 32bit Windows is limited in memory access, as you say.� But at the same time, 32 bit versions of Windows require far less memory and I very much doubt that Windows 10 is much more, if at all memory intensive than Windows 7 or Windows 8.� Memory needs for 32bit Windows are dramatically less than for 64bit.� I don't know if this is true, but the limitation may make Windows 10 run less efficiently if a very memory intensive program is being used.� But for typical uses, I doubt there is a problem.

�

All of which may have no bearing on the current situation because the computer may be a 64 bit computer and the version of Windows that may be upgraded to may well be 64bit.� But for anyone who has a 32bit computer who is following the thread, I think this point needs further discussion.

�

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 5:37 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

�

If you have a 32-bit version of Windows (no matter whether the machine's
hardware is 32- or 64-bit) then it will not use more than 3Gbytes of RAM.

This tends to give disappointing performance when running a screenreader
alongside other applications, as well as being a waste of money for the
unusable RAM.

Antony.

On Monday 14 January 2019 at 12:35:38, Gene wrote:

> Isn't there a 32 bit version of Windows 10?� What if the machine is a 32bit
> machine?
>
> Also, what version of Windows is currently being run?� You may just have
> minor annoyances when Microsoft imposes two full upgrades on you a year.
> Microsoft may slow the schedule down but we don't know if it will, but
> some people have more annoying problems or even serious ones after an
> imposed Microsoft upgrade on occasion.� So my question is, why do you want
> to upgrade?� If the reason isn't pressing, you might want to leave things
> as they are.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original message -----
>
> From: Antony Stone
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 5:22 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer
>
>
> 1. We don't know what you regard as a "normal Windows 10 user".
>
> 2. I would recommend more than 4Gbytes of RAM, and make certain you have
> 64- bit Windows.
>
> 3. See the thread on this list starting Friday 11th entitled "Minimum Specs
> for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications".
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Monday 14 January 2019 at 12:16:38, farhan israk wrote:
> > I want to upgrade my computer. Is core i3 processor and 4gb ram enough
> > for normal windows 10 user?

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Re: Want to upgrade computer

 

But what's the link between buying a new computer and updating Windows? I can't get your point here, really.

Cheers,
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Em 15/01/2019 17:09, Monte Single escreveu:

So does that mean hundreds of millions of people will be buying a new computer a year from now?

�

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: January-15-19 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

�

Hi,

The official answer: January 14, 2020 )one year left).

Cheers,

Joseph

�

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

�

It is very easy to find out.� Do a Google search for end of Windows 7 support and see what known reliable sources say.�

�

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Monte Single

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:18 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

�

I am hearing different times for the end of win 7 support;� mid jan 2020, mid 2020,� any other bids?

Thanks,

Monte

�

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Clare Page
Sent: January-15-19 4:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

�

Hi!

Actually, 32-bit software works fine on a 64-bit computer. The Windows 7 laptop I�m using right now is 64-bit, and, although some programs have 64-bit versions which I have installed, I haven�t had problems with the ones I use which are only 32-bit, and some of those are pretty old. So is my computer actually, I bought it back in 2011, but I knew I�d do a certain amount of multi-tasking with it, so I got one with 4 GB of RAM. It�s only more recently that I�ve heard of people having much more RAM than that. I�m considering upgrading my computer as well, as Windows 7 is no longer supported from mid-January 2020, so I�m reading this thread with interest, it might give me some idea of what to look for as far as specification goes when the time comes to upgrade.

Bye for now!

From Clare

�

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: lundi 14 janvier 2019 18:34
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

�

Actually if you can handle it I found a speed improvement with 64 bit windows on win7 with 4gb ram.

But if you like older software I'd stay with 32 bit.

�

�

On 15/01/2019 12:51 AM, Gene wrote:

I doubt what you are saying is correct.� Its true that 32bit Windows is limited in memory access, as you say.� But at the same time, 32 bit versions of Windows require far less memory and I very much doubt that Windows 10 is much more, if at all memory intensive than Windows 7 or Windows 8.� Memory needs for 32bit Windows are dramatically less than for 64bit.� I don't know if this is true, but the limitation may make Windows 10 run less efficiently if a very memory intensive program is being used.� But for typical uses, I doubt there is a problem.

�

All of which may have no bearing on the current situation because the computer may be a 64 bit computer and the version of Windows that may be upgraded to may well be 64bit.� But for anyone who has a 32bit computer who is following the thread, I think this point needs further discussion.

�

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Antony Stone

Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 5:37 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

�

If you have a 32-bit version of Windows (no matter whether the machine's
hardware is 32- or 64-bit) then it will not use more than 3Gbytes of RAM.

This tends to give disappointing performance when running a screenreader
alongside other applications, as well as being a waste of money for the
unusable RAM.

Antony.

On Monday 14 January 2019 at 12:35:38, Gene wrote:

> Isn't there a 32 bit version of Windows 10?� What if the machine is a 32bit
> machine?
>
> Also, what version of Windows is currently being run?� You may just have
> minor annoyances when Microsoft imposes two full upgrades on you a year.
> Microsoft may slow the schedule down but we don't know if it will, but
> some people have more annoying problems or even serious ones after an
> imposed Microsoft upgrade on occasion.� So my question is, why do you want
> to upgrade?� If the reason isn't pressing, you might want to leave things
> as they are.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original message -----
>
> From: Antony Stone
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 5:22 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer
>
>
> 1. We don't know what you regard as a "normal Windows 10 user".
>
> 2. I would recommend more than 4Gbytes of RAM, and make certain you have
> 64- bit Windows.
>
> 3. See the thread on this list starting Friday 11th entitled "Minimum Specs
> for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications".
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Monday 14 January 2019 at 12:16:38, farhan israk wrote:
> > I want to upgrade my computer. Is core i3 processor and 4gb ram enough
> > for normal windows 10 user?

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Re: Want to upgrade computer

Monte Single
 

So does that mean hundreds of millions of people will be buying a new computer a year from now?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: January-15-19 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

 

Hi,

The official answer: January 14, 2020 )one year left).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 5:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

 

It is very easy to find out.  Do a Google search for end of Windows 7 support and see what known reliable sources say. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:18 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

 

I am hearing different times for the end of win 7 support;  mid jan 2020, mid 2020,  any other bids?

Thanks,

Monte

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Clare Page
Sent: January-15-19 4:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

 

Hi!

Actually, 32-bit software works fine on a 64-bit computer. The Windows 7 laptop I’m using right now is 64-bit, and, although some programs have 64-bit versions which I have installed, I haven’t had problems with the ones I use which are only 32-bit, and some of those are pretty old. So is my computer actually, I bought it back in 2011, but I knew I’d do a certain amount of multi-tasking with it, so I got one with 4 GB of RAM. It’s only more recently that I’ve heard of people having much more RAM than that. I’m considering upgrading my computer as well, as Windows 7 is no longer supported from mid-January 2020, so I’m reading this thread with interest, it might give me some idea of what to look for as far as specification goes when the time comes to upgrade.

Bye for now!

From Clare

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: lundi 14 janvier 2019 18:34
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

 

Actually if you can handle it I found a speed improvement with 64 bit windows on win7 with 4gb ram.

But if you like older software I'd stay with 32 bit.

 

 

On 15/01/2019 12:51 AM, Gene wrote:

I doubt what you are saying is correct.  Its true that 32bit Windows is limited in memory access, as you say.  But at the same time, 32 bit versions of Windows require far less memory and I very much doubt that Windows 10 is much more, if at all memory intensive than Windows 7 or Windows 8.  Memory needs for 32bit Windows are dramatically less than for 64bit.  I don't know if this is true, but the limitation may make Windows 10 run less efficiently if a very memory intensive program is being used.  But for typical uses, I doubt there is a problem.

 

All of which may have no bearing on the current situation because the computer may be a 64 bit computer and the version of Windows that may be upgraded to may well be 64bit.  But for anyone who has a 32bit computer who is following the thread, I think this point needs further discussion.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 5:37 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer

 

If you have a 32-bit version of Windows (no matter whether the machine's
hardware is 32- or 64-bit) then it will not use more than 3Gbytes of RAM.

This tends to give disappointing performance when running a screenreader
alongside other applications, as well as being a waste of money for the
unusable RAM.

Antony.

On Monday 14 January 2019 at 12:35:38, Gene wrote:

> Isn't there a 32 bit version of Windows 10?  What if the machine is a 32bit
> machine?
>
> Also, what version of Windows is currently being run?  You may just have
> minor annoyances when Microsoft imposes two full upgrades on you a year.
> Microsoft may slow the schedule down but we don't know if it will, but
> some people have more annoying problems or even serious ones after an
> imposed Microsoft upgrade on occasion.  So my question is, why do you want
> to upgrade?  If the reason isn't pressing, you might want to leave things
> as they are.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original message -----
>
> From: Antony Stone
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 5:22 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Want to upgrade computer
>
>
> 1. We don't know what you regard as a "normal Windows 10 user".
>
> 2. I would recommend more than 4Gbytes of RAM, and make certain you have
> 64- bit Windows.
>
> 3. See the thread on this list starting Friday 11th entitled "Minimum Specs
> for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications".
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Monday 14 January 2019 at 12:16:38, farhan israk wrote:
> > I want to upgrade my computer. Is core i3 processor and 4gb ram enough
> > for normal windows 10 user?

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Re: command prompt spelling out output

Sarah k Alawami
 

I've often wondered when this was going to be fixed. It is annoying as well for me.

On 15 Jan 2019, at 9:32, enes sarıbaş wrote:

hi,

Is there a way to prevent NVDA from spelling out the output when speaked typed characters is on? This is extremely annoying.



Re: VIDEO GAMING

Sarah k Alawami
 

Well, those are getting better in terms of accessibility but not fase enough in my humble opinion. Lol! You can still play though if you an OCR the stuff from the computer.

On 15 Jan 2019, at 9:27, Devin Prater wrote:

Sorry, I don’t have an Xbox. The family decided to get a PS4 without asking me, lol.

On Jan 15, 2019, at 11:05 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

OOO nice. I do want to finish wulverblade but am having issues with the boss. Check it out on xbox if yu get the chance. Someone already kind of wrote out a menu guide or told me what it was although I could ocr it from my xbox to my computer if I wanted to. I was going to do wulverblade that day but forgot. Lol!

Take care

On 15 Jan 2019, at 8:49, Devin Prater wrote:

I completed the main story of Dissidia Final Fantasy, on a PC with NVDA of course. I used NVDA’s OCR to read the menus and character select screen, and unspoken story dialogue, although most of the story is acted out by the characters, with fighting and such in between. The audio of battles is in stereo, customizing characters is easy once you get the hang of how OCR presents those screens, and I would definitely recommend the game.

On Jan 15, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

Those are not video games. If you want to see video gaming in action check out [this link[(https://youtu.be/thgo8YYW9z4) Ok, I was a bit sick but I held out fo r9 hours, you only get to see 7 of those. It was a marathon stream and the stream itself got 160 viewers during that day. I like real video games as they are faster than we ever will get at least for now with audio games. But you do get to see me use nvda a little bit to play, or at least to read the menus. Granted, I'm not Brandon Cole, but I did have fun and ended up educating a 9 year old who was watching my stream while they were on vacation. He was told he could never play video games because he was blind. He asked me a lot of question and I took that time to educate when I was not getting hit by my other characters or cars. Lol!

Take care

On 15 Jan 2019, at 8:10, Josh Kennedy wrote:

hi richard,
check out all of the games available at www.audiogames.net and also at www.forum.audiogames.net 

josh



Re: Weather plus addon

Adriano Barbieri
 

Hi Don and every body,

Yes, work is ongoing to Weather Plus. As soon as I completed the debug, I will be able to an update, don't you worry.

cheers
Adriano

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 4:20 PM
Subject: [nvda] Weather plus addon


Is there ever going to be a new weather plus addon? Was a very useful addon.



Re: Win10 not landing on the desktop when started

Richard Wells
 

Pascal: It sounds like you may have accidentally activated Tablet mode. Press WINDOWS-KEY+A and make sure the Tablet button is not pressed. If it is, press SPACE-BAR to toggle it off.

On 1/15/2019 8:39 AM, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Hi All,

Please help!  For some reason I cannot figure out, when I start my computer, it does not land on the desktop but on something called ‘life at a glancd-group header” with some icons under for calendar, weather…

I probably did something unintentionally and now I cannot find a way to get back to the desktop.  Pleas help.

Boy, I am glad this list is there for some of us who are not computer savvy!

Many thanks.

Blessings

Pascal


Re: command prompt spelling out output

Felix G.
 

Hi,
this is one of the long-standing known issues. Turn off key echo, both
characters and words, and it will stop spelling out console text.
Best,
Felix

Am Di., 15. Jan. 2019 um 18:42 Uhr schrieb marcio via Groups.Io
<marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io>:


It's really annoying. I ever wanted to know a way to make it stops.
Looking for this thread. Hope we can get some good answers.

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter

Em 15/01/2019 15:32, enes sarıbaş escreveu:

hi,

Is there a way to prevent NVDA from spelling out the output when speaked typed characters is on? This is extremely annoying.







Re: Win10 not landing on the desktop when started

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

An accessible way to configure your start menu is as follows:

 

  1. Press Windows+i to open the settings dialog.
  2. Tab into list of   Categories, right arrow to “Personalisation” and press enter.
  3. Tab into list of sub-categories, down arrow to “Start”, press spacebar to select, then  press tab  

 

The screen will contain the following toggle buttons.  Tab through them and have a look, you can’t get lost on this screen pressing tab just takes you around in a circle.  I don’t like a cluttered screen so I only have the “Show App list on Start menu” button checked.

 

Here is the list:

Show more tiles on Start

Show app list in Start menu

Show the recently added apps

Show the most used apps

Show suggestions occasionally in Start

Use Start full screen

Show recently opened items in Jump Lists on Start or the taskbar

Choose which folders appear on Start

 

Note: the last item in the list, “Choose which folders appear on Start” is not a button but a link to a lower level list of toggle buttons which determine what features are shown on your start menu.  Press enter on this link and you will see:

File Explorer

Settings

Documents

Downloads

Music

Pictures

Videos

Network

Personal folder

 

Check the ones you would like to see on your Start menu, then use the “Home” button to return to the Settings dialog.  Use Alt+f4 to close the Settings dialog.       

 

 

To move to the Start menu you press the Windows key alone.  Use the tab key to navigate the Start menu.  Again you will move around in a circle so you can’t get lost.  You will initially land in the Cortana search box, which you can use to search for information held either on your computer or on the internet.  As you tab through the controls, NVDA  will announce what they are, and you should be able to identify them as relating to the first list of toggle buttons you set.  When you encounter a control entitled “Toggle Start Navigation”, press the spacebar, then use the down/up arrows to navigate the start menu items you selected in the second list of toggle buttons.  Note there are a couple of additional items here.  “User Account for UserName”, if activated will open a list of options for the active UserName and offers user switching functionality.  “Power” will present the computer shutdown options you have available on your machine.              

 

HTH

Chris

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 15 January 2019 15:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Win10 not landing on the desktop when started

 

See this page. 

Different people give different solutions.  I looked at the first two and I don't know if there are more.  I suspect the second one, about changing to tablet mode, is the answer.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 8:39 AM

Subject: [nvda] Win10 not landing on the desktop when started

 

Hi All,

Please help!  For some reason I cannot figure out, when I start my computer, it does not land on the desktop but on something called ‘life at a glancd-group header” with some icons under for calendar, weather…

I probably did something unintentionally and now I cannot find a way to get back to the desktop.  Pleas help.

Boy, I am glad this list is there for some of us who are not computer savvy!

Many thanks.

Blessings

Pascal


Re: command prompt spelling out output

 

It's really annoying. I ever wanted to know a way to make it stops.
Looking for this thread. Hope we can get some good answers.

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter

Em 15/01/2019 15:32, enes sarıbaş escreveu:

hi,

Is there a way to prevent NVDA from spelling out the output when speaked typed characters is on? This is extremely annoying.