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Installing SAPI voices for NVDA on a windows 10 machine

Sile
 

Hello all


I have a strange error on a new windows 10 machine.

I installed eloquence and chose not to register it immediately until I checked it was working.
The next time I tried to log into the machine, I got passed the log-in screen but when I pressed any key after that NVDA just echoed:

"Please Register this Product"

So I can't do anything with the machine ...

Has anyone ever had this happen?  If so, what can I do to fix it?  I obviously can't register the product until I can use the machine ...

Yours,

--Sile


Testing

Sile
 

Hello all


So sorry for the spam, but I just need to test this.  I really will send a message next if it works!


--Sile


Re: wonder vs. wander

Hope Williamson <isepic@...>
 

It's a good question. Although I definitely know the difference between "wonder" and "wander." I've been blind since birth. Although I did learn braille when I was in school. Problem is, I've had data retention issues my entire life. As in I turn the page, and completely forget what I was reading.

    It's just easier for me to listen, because I actually retain more that way. People say you only retain about 10-15% of what you hear, but I think for me it's probably about 50 or 60% at least.


Re: Internet radio software recommended for use with NVDA?

Gene
 

What didn't you like about the interface?  You don't have to pay to use it because of a design flaw or bug, whetever it is. 
 
After the demo period runs out, if you open the program and start it playing, it will be fully functional for a few minutes.
Then, an ok button will come up.  If you have already decided to listen to a specific station and have it playing, it will play that station until you activate the ok button.  The program will then close and the default web browser will open to the Tapin site.  of course, you can just close it.
 
To keep the playlist current, use the search for updates feature at intervals.  I haven't tried to see how often updates come out.  My impression is something like once a month or two.
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 3:18 PM
Subject: [nvda] Internet radio software recommended for use with NVDA?

Asking this since the older, free version of tapIn radio was perfectly
usable, but, they've now updated to what seems to be a paid-for version,
and while it's station listings will be kept up to date, the older
version will start lacking functional entries in the station listings.


Now, while I understand paying for worthwhile software, I tried out the
demo version of the new software, and, didn't like it's reworked
interface, and, secondly, I don't see why I should pay for something
like this if there are free alternatives that people would recommend?


So, suggestions on what to try out?


Would be nice if you could record it's output via the software, but,
that's not the end of the world, since the main thing is being able to
browse station categories/catalogues, being able to then control
playback, audio output, etc. etc.


Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."



Re: wonder vs. wander

 

Houw er ook rekening mee dat voor sommige mensen op dit forum, waaronder mij zelf, Engels niet hun eerste taal is.


Op 18-11-2018 om 18:40 schreef Travis Siegel:

Not trying to make anybody mad here, but it really is disconcerting to see so many people here using wander and wonder interchangeably.
Wander (with an"A" ) is what you do when you're out and about, and don't have any particular place to be, and you just feel like taking your time to see what's going on around you.  You wander around, looking at things, and simply taking things easy.
On the other hand, wonder (with an "O" ) is what you do when you're curious about something.  Yeah, it's ok to wonder about life, the universe and everything, but if you wander about such things, you may never find your way back to your back yard, having being swept off into galaxies unknown.
And, of course, it's perfectly acceptable to wonder about wandering too, especially if you're wondering why so many people wander into things.



Re: Uninstalling an app installed via windows 10 store

 

Well I have used ccleaner to uninstall things, I assume that add remove programs will work to.

However even if you kill it you will have to click see more in store then downloads then there is a drop down box for owned or downloaded or installed, select owned, then you need to hide that app else it will just install it again.

On 11/19/2018 10:08 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
As subject line says, wondering what's the easiest/simplest way to uninstall a piece of software installed via windows store on the PC?


Ask this since, trying to find something like a list of installed software in the windows store interface, using NVDA seems unavailable?


And, the apps installed via this path don't show up under add or remove programs from the control panel?


Stay well, and, TIA


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."


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Re: Reading Charts

Jason White
 

Can you export the data to a CSV file and then read it with a spreadsheet program?

On 11/18/18, 03:56, "Stephen Costigan" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of stephen.costigan@outlook.com> wrote:

Hi,

Can anyone tell me if NVDA can read charts, the reason why I ask is
because I can send reports and charts from my blood glucose machine to
my laptop.

Thank you in advance.

Stephen


Re: Uninstalling an app installed via windows 10 store

Chris
 

Probably in settings > apps > apps and features

From the list of installed apps select the one to uninstall

then hit enter to expand

then tab to uninstall button

then hit enter

 

 

From: Jacob Kruger
Sent: 18 November 2018 21:09
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Uninstalling an app installed via windows 10 store

 

As subject line says, wondering what's the easiest/simplest way to

uninstall a piece of software installed via windows store on the PC?

 

 

Ask this since, trying to find something like a list of installed

software in the windows store interface, using NVDA seems unavailable?

 

 

And, the apps installed via this path don't show up under add or remove

programs from the control panel?

 

 

Stay well, and, TIA

 

 

Jacob Kruger

Blind Biker

Skype: BlindZA

"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

 

 

 


Re: Uninstalling an app installed via windows 10 store

Jacob Kruger
 

Thanks, Joseph.


I will archive your reply, and, did figure out/find the context menu means.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018-11-18 11:14 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
There are two ways. The fastest way is opening Start, search for the app you're trying to uninstall, then instead of pressing Enter to open it, press Applications key to open context menu and choose Uninstall (and confirm if requested). The other way is pressing Windows+X, then F to open Settings/Apps/Apps and Features. Then tab around until you arrive at a list of apps. Navigate through the list, locate the app, press Enter tr select, then Tab to go to Uninstall and select it (confirm if requested).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 1:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Uninstalling an app installed via windows 10 store

As subject line says, wondering what's the easiest/simplest way to uninstall a piece of software installed via windows store on the PC?


Ask this since, trying to find something like a list of installed
software in the windows store interface, using NVDA seems unavailable?


And, the apps installed via this path don't show up under add or remove
programs from the control panel?


Stay well, and, TIA


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."





Internet radio software recommended for use with NVDA?

Jacob Kruger
 

Asking this since the older, free version of tapIn radio was perfectly usable, but, they've now updated to what seems to be a paid-for version, and while it's station listings will be kept up to date, the older version will start lacking functional entries in the station listings.


Now, while I understand paying for worthwhile software, I tried out the demo version of the new software, and, didn't like it's reworked interface, and, secondly, I don't see why I should pay for something like this if there are free alternatives that people would recommend?


So, suggestions on what to try out?


Would be nice if you could record it's output via the software, but, that's not the end of the world, since the main thing is being able to browse station categories/catalogues, being able to then control playback, audio output, etc. etc.


Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."


Re: Uninstalling an app installed via windows 10 store

 

Hi,
There are two ways. The fastest way is opening Start, search for the app you're trying to uninstall, then instead of pressing Enter to open it, press Applications key to open context menu and choose Uninstall (and confirm if requested). The other way is pressing Windows+X, then F to open Settings/Apps/Apps and Features. Then tab around until you arrive at a list of apps. Navigate through the list, locate the app, press Enter tr select, then Tab to go to Uninstall and select it (confirm if requested).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 1:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Uninstalling an app installed via windows 10 store

As subject line says, wondering what's the easiest/simplest way to uninstall a piece of software installed via windows store on the PC?


Ask this since, trying to find something like a list of installed
software in the windows store interface, using NVDA seems unavailable?


And, the apps installed via this path don't show up under add or remove
programs from the control panel?


Stay well, and, TIA


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."


Re: Uninstalling an app installed via windows 10 store

Jacob Kruger
 

Ok, and, just after sent this, figured out a way to handle it - start menu, programs, and looked the apps sub-menu, and, under there found the item was wanting to uninstall, triggered the context menu on it, and, there was a menu item to uninstall it.


Sorry.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018-11-18 11:08 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
As subject line says, wondering what's the easiest/simplest way to uninstall a piece of software installed via windows store on the PC?


Ask this since, trying to find something like a list of installed software in the windows store interface, using NVDA seems unavailable?


And, the apps installed via this path don't show up under add or remove programs from the control panel?


Stay well, and, TIA


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."


Uninstalling an app installed via windows 10 store

Jacob Kruger
 

As subject line says, wondering what's the easiest/simplest way to uninstall a piece of software installed via windows store on the PC?


Ask this since, trying to find something like a list of installed software in the windows store interface, using NVDA seems unavailable?


And, the apps installed via this path don't show up under add or remove programs from the control panel?


Stay well, and, TIA


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."


Re: rh-voice

Isaac <bigikemusic@...>
 


Installed the addon and when I tried to select it after nvda restart it said it couldn't load the addontried to ins

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] rh-voice

and the download link for the addon and voices is at

https://github.com/Olga-Yakovleva/RHVoice/wiki


Re: wonder vs. wander

Sarah k Alawami
 

Our choir director got on our cases as we all tended to sing "wonder" instead of wander. So "I wonder as I wanter" became, well, a mess. And I often tend to say "wander" as "wonder" and even in braille I would mis read it as "wand der" "short a as in and" My British accent tends to get in the way when I sing so yeah there you go.

On 18 Nov 2018, at 10:22, Gene wrote:

A pertinent question is why wander is incorrectly used.  Is it because those who do so don't read Braille, were blind since birth and didn't learn to spell well because they didn't read words?  And, further, does the accent spoken where people live who make this mistake contribute to it?  Is wonder spoken more like wander in those regions? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 11:40 AM
Subject: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

Not trying to make anybody mad here, but it really is disconcerting to
see so many people here using wander and wonder interchangeably.
Wander (with an"A" ) is what you do when you're out and about, and don't
have any particular place to be, and you just feel like taking your time
to see what's going on around you.  You wander around, looking at
things, and simply taking things easy.
On the other hand, wonder (with an "O" ) is what you do when you're
curious about something.  Yeah, it's ok to wonder about life, the
universe and everything, but if you wander about such things, you may
never find your way back to your back yard, having being swept off into
galaxies unknown.
And, of course, it's perfectly acceptable to wonder about wandering too,
especially if you're wondering why so many people wander into things.




ExpanDrive accessibility

Tony Malykh
 

Hi all,
Has anyone figured out if ExpanDrive can be used with NVDA?
ExpanDrive allows you to mount remote SSH and SFTP file systems
locally.
A quick check showed that NVDA doesn't see any controls in the main
window. If I try to use its command line version, it can only
mount/unmount, but you cannot configure new drives with it.

Best
Tony


Re: wonder vs. wander

Gene
 

In this case, I observed this error long before dictation software became common and its consistent, which wouldn't be expected to be the case with dictation software. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2018 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] wonder vs. wander

My suspicion, and not just in this case, is that there is a widespread use of dictation (speech-to-text) software these days.  With words such as wonder and wander, when said in the flow of normal speech often sound remarkably similar, as the vowel gets what I call "schwa-ed".  Unless you're using dictation software that has some AI features where it looks at surrounding context before closing in on the actual word wanted you'll often get substitutions like this.

It seems to be far more common on certain forums than others, and if I'm being perfectly honest it's way more common on blind and low-vision forums than elsewhere.  Since most individuals I know personally do know how to spell (at least as well as anyone else I know) and do so when typing, I have to suspect dictation software is at play at least a decent part of the time.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: rh-voice

Josh Kennedy
 

it does not have spyware. it's fine. 


Re: rh-voice

Josh Kennedy
 

and the download link for the addon and voices is at

https://github.com/Olga-Yakovleva/RHVoice/wiki


Re: rh-voice

Josh Kennedy
 

you have to install rh voice, then the english language pack, then the voices you want.