On 8/19/2019 3:15 PM, Luke Davis wrote:

On Mon, 19 Aug 2019, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I have over 200 thousand so that might be an issue ther at least as far as gmail. And no I'm not clearing any of it, at least not yet.

In a single folder, or spread across the IMAP folders in that account?

If I recall correctly, gmail exposes virtual IMAP folders. So everything in your inbox acts as if it is replicated in the allmail folder. And a few other cases of that sort of thing. I wonder if Thunderbird is seeing those as separate folders, and trying to process them as such? That is a wild shot in the dark, as I have never used Thunderbird, and all my gmail IMAP access is via mail programs that behave well with it.

Luke

On 8/19/2019 6:15 PM, Luke Davis wrote:

On Mon, 19 Aug 2019, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I have over 200 thousand so that might be an issue ther at least as far as gmail. And no I'm not clearing any of it, at least not yet.

In a single folder, or spread across the IMAP folders in that account?

If I recall correctly, gmail exposes virtual IMAP folders. So everything in your inbox acts as if it is replicated in the allmail folder. And a few other cases of that sort of thing. I wonder if Thunderbird is seeing those as separate folders, and trying to process them as such? That is a wild shot in the dark, as I have never used Thunderbird, and all my gmail IMAP access is via mail programs that behave well with it.

Luke

On 19 Aug 2019, at 14:59, Andy B. wrote:

Hi,

I disabled complete sync in TB 68 for one of my Gmail accounts. Will see how it goes on performance for a while. I have a hunch that the lag has something to do with GMail sync downloading everything in the account. When you have over 20,000 emails, it can break any mail client.

On 8/19/2019 5:54 PM, David Csercsics wrote:

Antivirus isn't the trouble here, as I went to quite a bit of trouble to disable most of Windows defender except for regularly scheduled scans. If I could run without security software I'd do it, as it's typically more of a pain than it's worth.

I'm using devender as well. And I'm also usign the add on you are using. Still a lot of slowness and lagging issues with nvda and tBird.

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On 19 Aug 2019, at 14:26, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Rich and all the others having this issue,

I am using NVDA 2019.2 with the Thunderbird enhancement app from NVDA community with Windows 10 1903 and latest updates and I really am not seeing this issue.  I wonder what anti virus or anti spyware programs are being used by those having the sluggishness issues.  In the old days, many times anti virus programs caused sluggishness with mail programs as well as other issues.  I am using Windows Defender and Malware bytes.

On 8/19/2019 12:23 PM, Rich DeSteno wrote:

I wrote to this list a couple of weeks ago about the increasing sluggishness of NVDA, particularly in Thunderbird  Unfortunately, this problem did not improve with the recent NVDA update.  I wonder if anyone connected with NVDA's development views this as a general problem and if there are any plans to address it.  Not only is NVDA slow to react to text, but it has spasms of silence for many seconds at which times it does not react to up and down arrowing or any other keystrokes.

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On 8/20/2019 5:54 AM, David Csercsics wrote:

Antivirus isn't the trouble here, as I went to quite a bit of trouble to disable most of Windows defender except for regularly scheduled scans. If I could run without security software I'd do it, as it's typically more of a pain than it's worth.

It should also be inquired what kinds of accounts people are using.  Is the problem limited to IMAP accounts, for example, or common to IMAP and POP3.  Perhaps all those having such problems are using one kind of account and those reporting no problem are using another kind of account. 

 

Can't IMAP be set to automatically download messages, not just show the headers?  what effect does that have.  None of this may make a difference, but then again, it may.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ron Canazzi

Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 4:26 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Still Sluggish in Thunderbird

Hi Rich and all the others having this issue,

I am using NVDA 2019.2 with the Thunderbird enhancement app from NVDA
community with Windows 10 1903 and latest updates and I really am not
seeing this issue.  I wonder what anti virus or anti spyware programs
are being used by those having the sluggishness issues.  In the old
days, many times anti virus programs caused sluggishness with mail
programs as well as other issues.  I am using Windows Defender and
Malware bytes.




On 8/19/2019 12:23 PM, Rich DeSteno wrote:
> I wrote to this list a couple of weeks ago about the increasing
> sluggishness of NVDA, particularly in Thunderbird  Unfortunately, this
> problem did not improve with the recent NVDA update.  I wonder if
> anyone connected with NVDA's development views this as a general
> problem and if there are any plans to address it.  Not only is NVDA
> slow to react to text, but it has spasms of silence for many seconds
> at which times it does not react to up and down arrowing or any other
> keystrokes.
>

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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

On 19 Aug 2019, at 14:26, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Rich and all the others having this issue,

I am using NVDA 2019.2 with the Thunderbird enhancement app from NVDA community with Windows 10 1903 and latest updates and I really am not seeing this issue.  I wonder what anti virus or anti spyware programs are being used by those having the sluggishness issues.  In the old days, many times anti virus programs caused sluggishness with mail programs as well as other issues.  I am using Windows Defender and Malware bytes.

On 8/19/2019 12:23 PM, Rich DeSteno wrote:

I wrote to this list a couple of weeks ago about the increasing sluggishness of NVDA, particularly in Thunderbird  Unfortunately, this problem did not improve with the recent NVDA update.  I wonder if anyone connected with NVDA's development views this as a general problem and if there are any plans to address it.  Not only is NVDA slow to react to text, but it has spasms of silence for many seconds at which times it does not react to up and down arrowing or any other keystrokes.

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

On 8/19/2019 5:54 PM, David Csercsics wrote:

Antivirus isn't the trouble here, as I went to quite a bit of trouble to disable most of Windows defender except for regularly scheduled scans. If I could run without security software I'd do it, as it's typically more of a pain than it's worth.

Hi Rich and all the others having this issue,

I am using NVDA 2019.2 with the Thunderbird enhancement app from NVDA
community with Windows 10 1903 and latest updates and I really am not
seeing this issue.  I wonder what anti virus or anti spyware programs
are being used by those having the sluggishness issues.  In the old
days, many times anti virus programs caused sluggishness with mail
programs as well as other issues.  I am using Windows Defender and
Malware bytes.




On 8/19/2019 12:23 PM, Rich DeSteno wrote:
> I wrote to this list a couple of weeks ago about the increasing
> sluggishness of NVDA, particularly in Thunderbird  Unfortunately, this
> problem did not improve with the recent NVDA update.  I wonder if
> anyone connected with NVDA's development views this as a general
> problem and if there are any plans to address it.  Not only is NVDA
> slow to react to text, but it has spasms of silence for many seconds
> at which times it does not react to up and down arrowing or any other
> keystrokes.
>

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

On 8/19/2019 12:23 PM, Rich DeSteno wrote:

I wrote to this list a couple of weeks ago about the increasing sluggishness of NVDA, particularly in Thunderbird  Unfortunately, this problem did not improve with the recent NVDA update.  I wonder if anyone connected with NVDA's development views this as a general problem and if there are any plans to address it.  Not only is NVDA slow to react to text, but it has spasms of silence for many seconds at which times it does not react to up and down arrowing or any other keystrokes.

From: brian
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 4:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Still Sluggish in Thunderbird

 

    When this happpens to me I have to restartmy nvda I also have nvda

2019.2 I have noticed that this problem occures when I turn my computer

on and when I come out of sleep mode.  That might provide some help.

 

Brian Sackrider

 

On 8/19/2019 12:52 PM, Don H wrote:

> I have experienced a couple of  times now since the most recent update

> to NVDA on my Win 10 1903 laptop and latest Thunderbird that when I

> open a message the arrow keys do not work.  Hitting the up and down

> arrow keys does nothing.  I resolved this issue by reloading the NVDA

> addons. It doesn't happen enough for me to start figuring out what is

> happening.

> 

> On 8/19/2019 11:23 AM, Rich DeSteno wrote:

>> I wrote to this list a couple of weeks ago about the increasing

>> sluggishness of NVDA, particularly in Thunderbird  Unfortunately,

>> this problem did not improve with the recent NVDA update.  I wonder

>> if anyone connected with NVDA's development views this as a general

>> problem and if there are any plans to address it.  Not only is NVDA

>> slow to react to text, but it has spasms of silence for many seconds

>> at which times it does not react to up and down arrowing or any other

>> keystrokes.

>> 

> 

> 

>

> 

 

 

 

From: Giles Turnbull
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 11:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage images with NVDA (was: Why does NVDA not findphotos on this website?)

 

one further question: is there any reason why an image without an ALT tag is not showing up to NVDA as a graphic? I thought a non-tagged image just used to be spoken as "graphic" but it was still navigable with the g shorcut. Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly.

Giles

On 8/19/2019 12:52 PM, Don H wrote:

I have experienced a couple of  times now since the most recent update to NVDA on my Win 10 1903 laptop and latest Thunderbird that when I open a message the arrow keys do not work.  Hitting the up and down arrow keys does nothing.  I resolved this issue by reloading the NVDA addons. It doesn't happen enough for me to start figuring out what is happening.

On 8/19/2019 11:23 AM, Rich DeSteno wrote:

I wrote to this list a couple of weeks ago about the increasing sluggishness of NVDA, particularly in Thunderbird  Unfortunately, this problem did not improve with the recent NVDA update.  I wonder if anyone connected with NVDA's development views this as a general problem and if there are any plans to address it.  Not only is NVDA slow to react to text, but it has spasms of silence for many seconds at which times it does not react to up and down arrowing or any other keystrokes.

On 19 Aug 2019, at 9:52, Don H wrote:

I have experienced a couple of times now since the most recent update to NVDA on my Win 10 1903 laptop and latest Thunderbird that when I open a message the arrow keys do not work. Hitting the up and down arrow keys does nothing. I resolved this issue by reloading the NVDA addons. It doesn't happen enough for me to start figuring out what is happening.

On 8/19/2019 11:23 AM, Rich DeSteno wrote:

I wrote to this list a couple of weeks ago about the increasing sluggishness of NVDA, particularly in Thunderbird  Unfortunately, this problem did not improve with the recent NVDA update.  I wonder if anyone connected with NVDA's development views this as a general problem and if there are any plans to address it.  Not only is NVDA slow to react to text, but it has spasms of silence for many seconds at which times it does not react to up and down arrowing or any other keystrokes.

On 8/19/2019 11:23 AM, Rich DeSteno wrote:

I wrote to this list a couple of weeks ago about the increasing sluggishness of NVDA, particularly in Thunderbird  Unfortunately, this problem did not improve with the recent NVDA update.  I wonder if anyone connected with NVDA's development views this as a general problem and if there are any plans to address it.  Not only is NVDA slow to react to text, but it has spasms of silence for many seconds at which times it does not react to up and down arrowing or any other keystrokes.