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Re: In-Process 5th July

Marcio
 

Quentin,
Once more, congratulations for a very well written post!
I'd specially recommend everyone to read this one because it deals with a topic well discussed on this list a few days ago :)
Without spoilers that's all I'll say.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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Re: Nvda and Language Esperanto

Ron Canazzi
 

Wonder why this response took so long to arrive here.


On 7/5/2019 8:02 AM, Brian K. Lingard wrote:

                             Dear Ron & List:

Yes, there are Esperanto clubs &^& practice opportunities live in many places of the world and others via Skype, Team Speak and other voice communication Apps.                 

 

As it always has been, a niche language primarily for persons who enjoy learning additional languages.

 

It is considered an Auxiliary language, I guess as opposed to one used generally.

 

Someone even publishes a daily newspaper in Esperanto, possibly some magazines too.

 

It is like being a Latin scholar if you are Roman Catholic. You can correspond and telephone church officials in the Vatican. They generally appreciate you taking the time & effort to send well written Latin correspondence.

 

Friend of mine received a reply from the Curia in the Vatican congratulating him on his facility in Latin.

 

Together with Greek, it is a good thing for medical professionals to know.

Brian K. Lingard

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 4:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda and Language Esperanto

 

Hi Group,

I am wondering if anyone speaks Esperanto any more.  I know it was a big thing that people in the 1960's tried to create a universal language and they wound up with Esperanto.  I can't think of anyone I ever knew that used it.

On 6/2/2019 10:38 AM, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:

Hi Gene,

 

It seems to be rather in order.

I write in dictionary a punctuation and then the equivalent in Esperanto.

But there is a problem: How to write the Carriage return? I think, that I must write the words, because for them does not exist a punctuation?

Jarek

Den 02.06.2019 v 14:13 Gene nasal (a):

I don't know how such things are said in Esperanto.  In the speech dictionary, used to change the pronunciation of whatever you want to change, you can put the punctuation mark in and tell the dictionary how you want it said.  But the problem is that you will then hear punctuation spoken that way in English as well. 

 

You can get around the problem by having two speech dictionary files and manually putting the one you want to use in NVDA before you switch to the language.  That isn't automatic, but it would achieve what you want. 

 

Gene

From: Jarek.Krcmar

Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 6:48 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda and Language Esperanto

 

Hi gene, I am afraid, that I don't understand you.

If I have set the language Esperanto, Speak says the whole addresser so:

Uzivatel backlash, appdata backslash, roaming backlash, nvda backlash, voice backlash, speak backslash, dictionary y.

I would like to hear Speak saying in Esperanto.

Jarek

Den 01.06.2019 v 23:51 Gene nasal (a):

If reading of punctuation isn't done properly, you can use the speech dictionary to manually enter the words you want to hear.  That may be enough information, but if you have questions about using the speech dictionary, ask here. 

 

Gene

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locked Re: New addon: Developer toolkit coming soon

Brian Vogel
 

Hello All,

           I have approved this message because it relates directly to an NVDA add-on under development.   That being said, working through the kinks and giving feedback for said add on belongs on the NVDA Developer Toolkit group that Andy Borka mentions in his message.   For ease of joining for those who might be interested:


All discussion specific to this add-on, while under development and in alpha and early beta stage, belongs on that group.

This topic is now locked.

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locked New addon: Developer toolkit coming soon

Andy B.
 

Hi,

 

I am an addon developer who is creating an addon that assists blind/visually impaired developers create appealing user interfaces without the help of sighted people. So far, the addon has been tested in Firefox and Chrome with success, and Windows 10 with limited success. At this time, I am rewriting the addon so it can be a global plugin. This means that it will work anywhere NVDA will work. The addon still has significant progress to make before it is production ready and considered stable. However, it is on the right track. If you want to get involved with Developer toolkit’s progress, feel free to visit the following links.

 

Repository: http://www.github.com/ajborka/nvda_developer_toolkit

Latest release: https://github.com/ajborka/nvda_developer_toolkit/releases/tag/v0.4.0-beta

Mailing list: http://www.groups.io/g/nvda-developer-toolkit

 

Thanks for your time and consideration…

Andy Borka

 
Re: Nvda and Language Esperanto

Brian K. Lingard
 

                             Dear Ron & List:

Yes, there are Esperanto clubs &^& practice opportunities live in many places of the world and others via Skype, Team Speak and other voice communication Apps.                 

 

As it always has been, a niche language primarily for persons who enjoy learning additional languages.

 

It is considered an Auxiliary language, I guess as opposed to one used generally.

 

Someone even publishes a daily newspaper in Esperanto, possibly some magazines too.

 

It is like being a Latin scholar if you are Roman Catholic. You can correspond and telephone church officials in the Vatican. They generally appreciate you taking the time & effort to send well written Latin correspondence.

 

Friend of mine received a reply from the Curia in the Vatican congratulating him on his facility in Latin.

 

Together with Greek, it is a good thing for medical professionals to know.

Brian K. Lingard

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 4:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda and Language Esperanto

 

Hi Group,

I am wondering if anyone speaks Esperanto any more.  I know it was a big thing that people in the 1960's tried to create a universal language and they wound up with Esperanto.  I can't think of anyone I ever knew that used it.

On 6/2/2019 10:38 AM, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:

Hi Gene,

 

It seems to be rather in order.

I write in dictionary a punctuation and then the equivalent in Esperanto.

But there is a problem: How to write the Carriage return? I think, that I must write the words, because for them does not exist a punctuation?

Jarek

Den 02.06.2019 v 14:13 Gene nasal (a):

I don't know how such things are said in Esperanto.  In the speech dictionary, used to change the pronunciation of whatever you want to change, you can put the punctuation mark in and tell the dictionary how you want it said.  But the problem is that you will then hear punctuation spoken that way in English as well. 

 

You can get around the problem by having two speech dictionary files and manually putting the one you want to use in NVDA before you switch to the language.  That isn't automatic, but it would achieve what you want. 

 

Gene

Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 6:48 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda and Language Esperanto

 

Hi gene, I am afraid, that I don't understand you.

If I have set the language Esperanto, Speak says the whole addresser so:

Uzivatel backlash, appdata backslash, roaming backlash, nvda backlash, voice backlash, speak backslash, dictionary y.

I would like to hear Speak saying in Esperanto.

Jarek

Den 01.06.2019 v 23:51 Gene nasal (a):

If reading of punctuation isn't done properly, you can use the speech dictionary to manually enter the words you want to hear.  That may be enough information, but if you have questions about using the speech dictionary, ask here. 

 

Gene

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Jarek
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Re: Reading PDF Files with NVDA - How to?

Hareth <hareth4m@...>
 

Quentin,
It looks like he's talking about instructions to use NVDA.
And if I'm not mistaken Francis is asking for 1on1 help with,
learning how to use NVDA in general,
And configure programs like acrobat reader for accessibility.
Plus learning how too use the mentioned programs with NVDA in specific.
And what I've understood from the post is he's having great difficulty
with writing e-mails do to his condition as well, I think dictation
would be the way to go in that case.
And I believe the best way to help him is to find a volunteer to start
training him if available.

On 7/5/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Ok there's a few issues there. Let's see what I can help with:

Re reading the group emails and instructions - do you mean you can read the
emails fine, you just can't follow the instructions? (If so, please let us
know which specific ones if the rest of this doesn't help).

Firefox has a built-in PDF viewer, but it isn't as accessible as Adobe
Reader. In Firefox press ALT+T then O to go to the options. TAB down to
"Search file types or applications", type PDF and press ENTER. Then press
TAB once to the list of file types and PDF. Tab again to "Preview in
Firefox" and down arrow to "Use Adobe Reader DC". PDF files you open from
web pages should now open in Adobe reader.

You should be able to read PDF files in Adobe reader by either using NVDA's
reading commands (eg say all with NVDA+down arrow or NVDA+A) or arrows
etc. If the file won't read at all, it's likely it is made as an image of
text. In that case you can try using NVDA's OCR function to read it -
press NVDA+R to recognise, then use the reading commands. If it is an
image of text, however, it is worth writing to the original author to
advise them that it is not accessible, as OCR does have its limiations.

I haven't tried Atlantis lately, so I can't comment on how well it works.
If it isn't accessible (and I'll leave it to others to offer more wisdom on
that), then you might consider Jarte as a word processor which is not Word,
or Libre Office.

Kind regards

Quentin.



On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 9:36 AM Francis Leadley <leadleyfrancis0@...>
wrote:

I understand my own e-mails it's the e-mails on the website
nvda.groups.io
I do not
understand and the instrutions in the help file

I am tring to get the NVDA to work for me. I am 76 years old and have
been sick for
66 years of them and am loosing my ability to use my hands and my
vision.

Firefox will not read PDF files it will read other things but i can not
get it to read PDF that is why i have NVDA but it will not read them.

I also can not get it to read Acrobat Reader DC files; It sometimes will
read one line or a part of a line then stops

I have another program called Atlantis word processor that i use. it is
like Microsoft office and ir will read as i type but will not read doc in
it.

I have win 10 up to date
Firefox up to date
Acrobat reader up to date
NVDA up to date
Atlantis up to date

I have Multiple Sclerosis and am in need of help. If you are not able
to
help me set up NVDA and my Computer so it will read to me will you
please
send me to some one who can.

My vision is Double in both eyes, so i see four of everything i look at
and i have no depth in my vision most of the time

It has taken Me about six hours to type this e-mail. part of it is copy
and past.

Tks.

On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 11:17 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

It's your own e-mail, so if you don't understand it then . . .

Have you run the accessibility wizard in Acrobat Reader DC? Are you
trying to read in Acrobat Reader DC itself? Are you trying to read the
PDF
within Firefox using the Reader plug-in?

It's impossible to give advice of any value unless the exact
circumstances of where the problem is occurring are accurately
described.
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Re: NVDA is not reading Urdu properly.

Ejaz Shah
 

Is the document in Urdu script or Roman Urdu? And are you using the Urdu voice of eSpeak-ng?

On 05/07/2019 2:23 pm, MohammadAfzal wrote:
Hi All,

I want to read Urdu document but, NVDA is not read properly as, I write shamsh but, It pronounce s s s a m s h

Please guide.

Thanks in advance.
Re: NVDA is not reading Urdu properly.

Marco Oros
 

This is maybe problem of Espeak NG.

You mwill haveto contact those developers in Espeak NG.
NVDA is not reading Urdu properly.

MohammadAfzal
 

Hi All,

I want to read Urdu document but, NVDA is not read properly as, I write shamsh but, It pronounce s s s a m s h

Please guide.

Thanks in advance.


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Re: Emoticons add on?

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

I fully agree, it is one of my most used addons and highly valueable.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Freitag, 5. Juli 2019 04:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Emoticons add on?

 

Hi all!

I use the Emoticons NVDA add-on all the time!

It is so much easier to just press:

Caps lock+I and down arrow through the smiles, than it is to use the Windows 10 Emoji panel!

I still can not access that very well, and I constantly use the NVDA add-on!

It is my third favorite add-on behind Windows 10 App Essentials, and Golden Cursor LOL!

Please keep that add-on!

Thanks guys for everything.

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 11:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Emoticons add on?

 

While emoticons and emoji are often thought of interchangeably, and there are even certain e-mail clients that will convert typed emoticons to their emoji equivalent, there are still many that do not.

Based on the description of the add-on I would imagine it is still entirely useful in any context where an e-mail message is in plain text and contains emoticons.

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Re: vmware station player

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Control-G to get focus to the VM and control-alt to get control of the host machine.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Freitag, 5. Juli 2019 09:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vmware station player

It should be, I think control g gets the machine in focus and control alt gives you control again.



On 5/07/2019 6:56 PM, Annamaria wrote:
hi all,

I have to create virtual machine on my pc with windows 10.

I would like to use vmware station player.

I would like to know if it is accessible with nvda.

Thank you.

Saluti.


Annamaria
Re: vmware station player

Shaun Everiss
 

It should be, I think control g gets the machine in focus and control alt gives you control again.

On 5/07/2019 6:56 PM, Annamaria wrote:
hi all,

I have to create virtual machine on my pc with windows 10.

I would like to use vmware station player.

I would like to know if it is accessible with nvda.

Thank you.

Saluti.


Annamaria
vmware station player

Annamaria
 

hi all,

I have to create virtual machine on my pc with windows 10.

I would like to use vmware station player.

I would like to know if it is accessible with nvda.

Thank you.

Saluti.


Annamaria
In-Process 5th July

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

NVDA 2019.2 Beta 2, Mick taking a well-deserved break, updates to NVDACon and our Corporate page and details on accessing the Windows notification area, all in this week's In-Process!


Happy 4th of July to those in America, and happy weekend to everyone :)
 
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NVDA 2019.2beta1 now available!
Re: nvda doesn't recognize tables in a pdf while in adobe reader

Quentin Christensen
 

Sure :)  Send it to info@...

Please, include a couple of lines recapping the issue just in case I don't get to reply today.

Thanks,

Quentin.

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 11:21 AM Alexandre Alves Toco <alexandretoco@...> wrote:

Oh, I do!

Can I send it to you?

If so, for what e-mail I should send?

 

 

Enviado do Email para Windows 10

 

De: Quentin Christensen
Enviado:quinta-feira, 4 de julho de 2019 21:17
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] nvda doesn't recognize tables in a pdf while in adobereader

 

Alexandre, Have you got a file you can share?  I just tried a couple of files with tables and they read fine in Adobe Reader DC (19.012.20035) and NVDA 2019.2 beta 2.

 

 

 

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 11:59 PM Alexandre Alves Toco <alexandretoco@...> wrote:

Hi, maybe the title is a little confusing.

I have a pdf file with tables.

If I open it in adobe, nvda reads as if it doesn’t have tables.

But when I open the same pdf in word 2016, the tables are there and I can navigate them using nvda.

 

 

Enviado do Email para Windows 10

 

De: Quentin Christensen
Enviado:quarta-feira, 3 de julho de 2019 02:37
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] reading PDF files

 

Hi Arlene,

 

Try using Adobe reader. I know at one point, Edge was quite good with PDF files, although maybe some work better than others.

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 2:42 PM Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi list: Arlene here.  How does one read PDF files using edge?  I tried to read a vollenteer application form.when I opened the attachment it went to edge.  When I tried to read the application All I got was blank blank. I know there are words there.  It said pages one of two and all I hear is blank.  I end up on Microsoft edge. How do I read this file.  I want to submit my answers that I had gone over with a job coach. Thanks.I hope this was clear.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


 

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Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2beta1 now available!

 

 


 

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Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2beta1 now available!

 

 



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Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.2beta1 now available!
Re: Emoticons add on?

David Moore
 

Hi all!

I use the Emoticons NVDA add-on all the time!

It is so much easier to just press:

Caps lock+I and down arrow through the smiles, than it is to use the Windows 10 Emoji panel!

I still can not access that very well, and I constantly use the NVDA add-on!

It is my third favorite add-on behind Windows 10 App Essentials, and Golden Cursor LOL!

Please keep that add-on!

Thanks guys for everything.

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 11:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Emoticons add on?

 

While emoticons and emoji are often thought of interchangeably, and there are even certain e-mail clients that will convert typed emoticons to their emoji equivalent, there are still many that do not.

Based on the description of the add-on I would imagine it is still entirely useful in any context where an e-mail message is in plain text and contains emoticons.

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The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 

 
Re: Reading PDF Files with NVDA - How to?

Brian Vogel
 

Arlene,

          Windows 10 (and maybe 8.1, I can't recall) assigns Edge as the default app for PDF files.   If you wish for PDFs to be opened by something else, like Adobe Reader DC or another PDF reader of your choosing that's already installed on your system:

1. Open Settings, Apps, Default Apps Pane

2.  Navigate to the Choose default apps by file type link then activate it.

3.  When the Choose default apps by file type dialog opens, get yourself to the entry for PDF (which may take a while, as I have not found any quick and easy way to get through the list - someone else may be able to jump in with the way to quickly navigate here).   Your default app will show as Edge, and that is a button, so activate it.

4. You will be presented with the Choose an app pop-up, and you can TAB through the apps presented until you find your PDF reader of choice.  Hit Enter to select it.

5.  ALT+F4 to close the Choose default apps by file type dialog.

At this point when you have a PDF file that needs to be opened it should open in your chosen PDF reader rather than Edge.

For earlier versions of Windows this is accomplished similarly, but via Control Panel, Default Programs, Associate a file type or protocol with a program link.

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nvda doesn't recognize tables in a pdf while in adobe reader

Alexandre Alves Toco
 

Oh, I do!

Can I send it to you?

If so, for what e-mail I should send?

 

 

Enviado do Email para Windows 10

 

De: Quentin Christensen
Enviado:quinta-feira, 4 de julho de 2019 21:17
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] nvda doesn't recognize tables in a pdf while in adobereader

 

Alexandre, Have you got a file you can share?  I just tried a couple of files with tables and they read fine in Adobe Reader DC (19.012.20035) and NVDA 2019.2 beta 2.

 

 

 

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 11:59 PM Alexandre Alves Toco <alexandretoco@...> wrote:

Hi, maybe the title is a little confusing.

I have a pdf file with tables.

If I open it in adobe, nvda reads as if it doesn’t have tables.

But when I open the same pdf in word 2016, the tables are there and I can navigate them using nvda.

 

 

Enviado do Email para Windows 10

 

De: Quentin Christensen
Enviado:quarta-feira, 3 de julho de 2019 02:37
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] reading PDF files

 

Hi Arlene,

 

Try using Adobe reader. I know at one point, Edge was quite good with PDF files, although maybe some work better than others.

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 2:42 PM Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi list: Arlene here.  How does one read PDF files using edge?  I tried to read a vollenteer application form.when I opened the attachment it went to edge.  When I tried to read the application All I got was blank blank. I know there are words there.  It said pages one of two and all I hear is blank.  I end up on Microsoft edge. How do I read this file.  I want to submit my answers that I had gone over with a job coach. Thanks.I hope this was clear.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


 

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NVDA 2019.2beta1 now available!

 

 


 

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NVDA 2019.2beta1 now available!

 

 
Re: Reading PDF Files with NVDA - How to?

g melconian <gmelconian619@...>
 

There are accessible PDF extensions in chrome the you can use as well like

On July 4, 2019 6:06:00 PM "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...> wrote:

Ok there's a few issues there.  Let's see what I can help with:

Re reading the group emails and instructions - do you mean you can read the emails fine, you just can't follow the instructions?  (If so, please let us know which specific ones if the rest of this doesn't help).

Firefox has a built-in PDF viewer, but it isn't as accessible as Adobe Reader.  In Firefox press ALT+T then O to go to the options. TAB down to "Search file types or applications", type PDF and press ENTER.  Then press TAB once to the list of file types and PDF.  Tab again to "Preview in Firefox" and down arrow to "Use Adobe Reader DC".  PDF files you open from web pages should now open in Adobe reader.

You should be able to read PDF files in Adobe reader by either using NVDA's reading commands (eg say all with NVDA+down arrow or NVDA+A) or arrows etc.  If the file won't read at all, it's likely it is made as an image of text.  In that case you can try using NVDA's OCR function to read it - press NVDA+R to recognise, then use the reading commands.  If it is an image of text, however, it is worth writing to the original author to advise them that it is not accessible, as OCR does have its limiations.

I haven't tried Atlantis lately, so I can't comment on how well it works.  If it isn't accessible (and I'll leave it to others to offer more wisdom on that), then you might consider Jarte as a word processor which is not Word, or Libre Office.

Kind regards

Quentin.



On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 9:36 AM Francis Leadley <leadleyfrancis0@...> wrote:
I understand my own e-mails it's the e-mails on the website nvda.groups.io I do not
understand and the instrutions in the help file

I am tring to get the NVDA  to work for me.   I am 76 years old and have been sick for
66 years of them  and am loosing my ability  to use my hands and my vision.

Firefox will not read PDF files it will read other things but i can not get it to read PDF that is why i have NVDA but it will not read them.

I also can not get it to read  Acrobat Reader DC files; It sometimes will read one line or a part of a line then stops

I have another program called Atlantis word processor that i use.  it is like Microsoft office and ir will read as i type but will not read doc in it.

I have win 10 up to date
Firefox up to date
Acrobat reader up to date
NVDA  up to date
Atlantis up to date

I have  Multiple Sclerosis and am in need of help.  If you are not able to help me set up NVDA  and my Computer  so it will read to me will you please send me to some one who can.

My vision is Double in both eyes, so i see four of everything i look at  and i have no depth in my vision most of the time

It has taken Me about six hours to type this e-mail. part of it is copy and past.

Tks.

On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 11:17 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
It's your own e-mail, so if you don't understand it then . . .

Have you run the accessibility wizard in Acrobat Reader DC?    Are you trying to read in Acrobat Reader DC itself?  Are you trying to read the PDF within Firefox using the Reader plug-in?

It's impossible to give advice of any value unless the exact circumstances of where the problem is occurring are accurately described.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 



--
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Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.2beta1 now available!
Re: Reading PDF Files with NVDA - How to?

Quentin Christensen
 

Ok there's a few issues there.  Let's see what I can help with:

Re reading the group emails and instructions - do you mean you can read the emails fine, you just can't follow the instructions?  (If so, please let us know which specific ones if the rest of this doesn't help).

Firefox has a built-in PDF viewer, but it isn't as accessible as Adobe Reader.  In Firefox press ALT+T then O to go to the options. TAB down to "Search file types or applications", type PDF and press ENTER.  Then press TAB once to the list of file types and PDF.  Tab again to "Preview in Firefox" and down arrow to "Use Adobe Reader DC".  PDF files you open from web pages should now open in Adobe reader.

You should be able to read PDF files in Adobe reader by either using NVDA's reading commands (eg say all with NVDA+down arrow or NVDA+A) or arrows etc.  If the file won't read at all, it's likely it is made as an image of text.  In that case you can try using NVDA's OCR function to read it - press NVDA+R to recognise, then use the reading commands.  If it is an image of text, however, it is worth writing to the original author to advise them that it is not accessible, as OCR does have its limiations.

I haven't tried Atlantis lately, so I can't comment on how well it works.  If it isn't accessible (and I'll leave it to others to offer more wisdom on that), then you might consider Jarte as a word processor which is not Word, or Libre Office.

Kind regards

Quentin.



On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 9:36 AM Francis Leadley <leadleyfrancis0@...> wrote:
I understand my own e-mails it's the e-mails on the website nvda.groups.io I do not
understand and the instrutions in the help file

I am tring to get the NVDA  to work for me.   I am 76 years old and have been sick for
66 years of them  and am loosing my ability  to use my hands and my vision.

Firefox will not read PDF files it will read other things but i can not get it to read PDF that is why i have NVDA but it will not read them.

I also can not get it to read  Acrobat Reader DC files; It sometimes will read one line or a part of a line then stops

I have another program called Atlantis word processor that i use.  it is like Microsoft office and ir will read as i type but will not read doc in it.

I have win 10 up to date
Firefox up to date
Acrobat reader up to date
NVDA  up to date
Atlantis up to date

I have  Multiple Sclerosis and am in need of help.  If you are not able to help me set up NVDA  and my Computer  so it will read to me will you please send me to some one who can.

My vision is Double in both eyes, so i see four of everything i look at  and i have no depth in my vision most of the time

It has taken Me about six hours to type this e-mail. part of it is copy and past.

Tks.

On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 11:17 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
It's your own e-mail, so if you don't understand it then . . .

Have you run the accessibility wizard in Acrobat Reader DC?    Are you trying to read in Acrobat Reader DC itself?  Are you trying to read the PDF within Firefox using the Reader plug-in?

It's impossible to give advice of any value unless the exact circumstances of where the problem is occurring are accurately described.
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