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Re: virtual machine software

Sile
 

Personally I’ve always found Boot Camp to be much more stable. Unless there’s a particular reason for flipping between Mac and windows in real time, today’s machines are so fast that it really doesn’t take long to boot up into the other operating system if you need to. In my experience, virtual machines including VMware have always had random issues with drivers under windows in particular.

Sile

On Jul 3, 2019, at 7:31 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

Hi all.

So over on chat, there is a thread about my podcast on virtual machines.

However, I thought I'd ask a little of it.

What software should I be using.

I know vmware is popular but I was thinking about virtualbox, however since I want a user to be able to do things, is virtualbox accessible.

Is there a keyboard list for both virtualbox and vmware to cycle machines, etc.

Should I try others?

Is for example windows hyper v worth it since its inbuilt with windows 10, or am I wasting my time.

Obviously this will be a 1 machine deal, as I am a home user, no paying 200-500 dollars for virtual machine software.

So are there any other bits of software other than vmware I should bother with, and any tips.

I have done this 10 years ago but now I have the hardware virtualisation and the resources and power I want to try again.





Re: reading PDF files

Arlene
 

Yes, it did ask me that.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Monte Single
Sent: July 3, 2019 5:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reading PDF files

 

When you set up adobe for the first time,  it will ask a few qs  like do you want to do the document 1 page at a time, whole document etc..

After that it won’t nag you.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: July-03-19 3:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reading PDF files

 

Be I don’t have adobe reader.  I’ll probably have to go get it.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: July 2, 2019 10:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reading PDF files

 

Hi Arlene,

 

Try using Adobe reader. I know at one point, Edge was quite good with PDF files, although maybe some work better than others.

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 2:42 PM Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi list: Arlene here.  How does one read PDF files using edge?  I tried to read a vollenteer application form.when I opened the attachment it went to edge.  When I tried to read the application All I got was blank blank. I know there are words there.  It said pages one of two and all I hear is blank.  I end up on Microsoft edge. How do I read this file.  I want to submit my answers that I had gone over with a job coach. Thanks.I hope this was clear.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2beta1 now available!

 

 

 


Re: virtual machine software

David Mehler
 

Hi,

What's the url for your podcast?

I use vmware.

Hth
Dave.

On 7/3/19, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
Hi all.

So over on chat, there is a thread about my podcast on virtual machines.

However, I thought I'd ask a little of it.

What software should I be using.

I know vmware is popular but I was thinking about virtualbox, however
since I want a user to be able to do things, is virtualbox accessible.

Is there a keyboard list for both virtualbox and vmware to cycle
machines, etc.

Should I try others?

Is for example windows hyper v worth it since its inbuilt with windows
10, or am I wasting my time.

Obviously this will be a 1 machine deal, as I am a home user, no paying
200-500 dollars for virtual machine software.

So are there any other bits of software other than vmware I should
bother with, and any tips.

I have done this 10 years ago but now I have the hardware virtualisation
and the resources and power I want to try again.






virtual machine software

 

Hi all.

So over on chat, there is a thread about my podcast on virtual machines.

However, I thought I'd ask a little of it.

What software should I be using.

I know vmware is popular but I was thinking about virtualbox, however since I want a user to be able to do things, is virtualbox accessible.

Is there a keyboard list for both virtualbox and vmware to cycle machines, etc.

Should I try others?

Is for example windows hyper v worth it since its inbuilt with windows 10, or am I wasting my time.

Obviously this will be a 1 machine deal, as I am a home user, no paying 200-500 dollars for virtual machine software.

So are there any other bits of software other than vmware I should bother with, and any tips.

I have done this 10 years ago but now I have the hardware virtualisation and the resources and power I want to try again.


Re: VPN Recommendations

David Mehler
 

Hi,

How do you have your openvpn setup?

Thanks.
Dave.

On 7/3/19, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:
Try https://openvpn.net/

It is open source and very easy to use and is accessible through the
system tray.  Use it everyday for my work.  Cheers!

On 7/3/2019 11:07 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Dear all,

I was looking for VPN software recommendations that are free and
accessible with NVDA. I checked this list's archives perfunctorily and
came across Pearl VPN, whcih appears to be a commercial software.

I would appreciate any inputs and suggestions for the above.

Thanks.
--
Pictures paint a thousand words;
Melodies paint a thousand dreams;
Music paints a thousand worlds;
Movies light up fantasy screens.





Re: struggling to use a UK Civil service test

Gene
 

First, you didn't say what browser you are using.  It is essential to give such information when asking about web site accessibility problems.  I'm testing with an older version of Chrome but I suspect my new Chrome, on a different computer, will work the same way. 
 
When discussing how you work with the form, you didn't mention turning browse mode off and on and experimenting.  Take the first question.  When I read it, I see five items that say dialog.  To read them, I go to the top of the page, turn browse mode off, NVDA key space bar, than start tabbing.  Every radio button is read and also the descriptive text. 
 
They are radio buttons but are somehow shown as dialogs, every one.  How do you move through a dialog in general?  You tab.  Turning off browse mode allows you to tab as you would in a dialog on this site.  There are times I get better results leaving browse mode on in web site dialogs and times I get better results turning it off.  And even if there wasn't that hint of saying dialog, I would have still tested in the same way.  You just need to try everything that might possibly apply, and that includes turning off browse mode manually when solving problems as a means of experimenting.
 
Its tricky with the video section.  You may not be in the right place as you switch between browse mode on and off.  To be sure you are working with the correct items, do the following:
View the video or read the transcript.
With browse mode on, go to the top of the page and pres b to move to the first button on the page.
Turn browse mode off.  You will be on that button.  Tab until you get to and work with the radio buttons.
Then go into browse mode again, and look at the next proposed action.
Then move to the top of the page and type b again.  This will always mean you are starting at the same place when looking through the choices.
Turn browse mode off. 
Tab to the first choice.  It is ineffective.  That is the first choice for the first action.  You already answered that one.  So tab until you get to ineffective again.  That is the first choice for the second action, which you are working with now.  It is very important to know what the first choice is in a situation like this so you can keep track of where you are as you move.
 
Follow the same pattern for the other question.
 
Make sure things work as I describe with whatever browser you are using.  If they don't, you may find how to work with the items by experimenting with browse mode on and off..
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2019 2:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] struggling to use a UK Civil service test

Hi all,

I have applied for a job in the UK Civil Service and I have until 10th July to complete a short Situational Judgement Test. There is a website to practice the types of things that the test will cover, so I thought I'd try it out before I take the actual test ... and I'm glad I did. I find its selection controls very hard to use with NVDA.

This is the website, and if the link gets curtailed by the NVDA group system, just search for Civil Service Situational Judgement Test.
http://csr.apolloassessment.adc.uk.com/openlink/practice/

There are a few presses of the Next button before the first set of questions starts, but when you get there the first set are how the applicant behaves in the work environment.  The first time I went through this first test I found it possible to select the answers I wanted, but now I'm struggling. It seems like once I've selected one response I can'access another question nor the Next button to proceed.

Then, when I did get through that first set of questions, the second was also difficult to navigate. In the second set it gives you four questions to answer relating to a specific situation. The applicant needs to choose how an action would be, from contradictory to effective.

Once I'd selected a response to one question I didn't seem to be able to continue to the next one. The response buttons are not identified by NVDA as buttons or radio buttons, but rather are spoken as "dialogue".

I tried using object navigation rather than tabbing through the controls, but using object navigation I lose the prompts as to what the value I'm selecting is.

It'll probably take 10 minutes to have a play around with this, but if anyone has the time I'd love to hear what you think of the assessment test and if you find a way to complete it.

annoyingly the Civil Service Recruitment site doesn't have a contact email or phone number relating to the vacancy or to the "reasonable adjustments" I requested when I applied for the job.

Thanks in advance,

Giles


Re: reading PDF files

Monte Single
 

When you set up adobe for the first time,  it will ask a few qs  like do you want to do the document 1 page at a time, whole document etc..

After that it won’t nag you.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: July-03-19 3:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reading PDF files

 

Be I don’t have adobe reader.  I’ll probably have to go get it.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: July 2, 2019 10:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reading PDF files

 

Hi Arlene,

 

Try using Adobe reader. I know at one point, Edge was quite good with PDF files, although maybe some work better than others.

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 2:42 PM Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi list: Arlene here.  How does one read PDF files using edge?  I tried to read a vollenteer application form.when I opened the attachment it went to edge.  When I tried to read the application All I got was blank blank. I know there are words there.  It said pages one of two and all I hear is blank.  I end up on Microsoft edge. How do I read this file.  I want to submit my answers that I had gone over with a job coach. Thanks.I hope this was clear.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2beta1 now available!

 

 


Re: struggling to use a UK Civil service test

Giles Turnbull
 

thanks, Brian. I'll try again and see if I can get through it using your advice :)

Giles


Re: VPN Recommendations

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Try https://openvpn.net/

It is open source and very easy to use and is accessible through the system tray.  Use it everyday for my work.  Cheers!

On 7/3/2019 11:07 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Dear all,

I was looking for VPN software recommendations that are free and
accessible with NVDA. I checked this list's archives perfunctorily and
came across Pearl VPN, whcih appears to be a commercial software.

I would appreciate any inputs and suggestions for the above.

Thanks.
--
Pictures paint a thousand words;
Melodies paint a thousand dreams;
Music paints a thousand worlds;
Movies light up fantasy screens.


Let me introduce and question about how to sing the voice synthesizer with NVDA

Pierpaolo Tieri account ufficiale
 

Hi everyone, I'm a new member of this group. My name is Pierpaolo
Tieri, I'm from Italy, I'm blind since birth. I use NVDA and I'm very
happy because with NVDA I can do all the things. But a question: How
can a vocal synthesizer can sing with NVDA? I would like to create a
song with the text to speech with NVDA. I use DSpeech for the
dialogues but I don't know if I can do this. Is there a program or are
there codes for that? Thanks in advance, Pierpaolo Tieri.


Re: reading PDF files

Arlene
 

Be I don’t have adobe reader.  I’ll probably have to go get it.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: July 2, 2019 10:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reading PDF files

 

Hi Arlene,

 

Try using Adobe reader. I know at one point, Edge was quite good with PDF files, although maybe some work better than others.

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 2:42 PM Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi list: Arlene here.  How does one read PDF files using edge?  I tried to read a vollenteer application form.when I opened the attachment it went to edge.  When I tried to read the application All I got was blank blank. I know there are words there.  It said pages one of two and all I hear is blank.  I end up on Microsoft edge. How do I read this file.  I want to submit my answers that I had gone over with a job coach. Thanks.I hope this was clear.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2beta1 now available!

 

 


Re: reading PDF files

Arlene
 

Ok, I’ll see if I have it. Then I’ll go download it.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: July 3, 2019 6:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reading PDF files

 

Get adobe reader. It will at least tell you if the pdf is an image. Make sure you alert whoever is sending you the pdf that it cannot be an image of text.

 

                                                                                                                                If all I have left in this world is God, I have everything!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Arlene
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 10:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] reading PDF files

 

Hi list: Arlene here.  How does one read PDF files using edge?  I tried to read a vollenteer application form.when I opened the attachment it went to edge.  When I tried to read the application All I got was blank blank. I know there are words there.  It said pages one of two and all I hear is blank.  I end up on Microsoft edge. How do I read this file.  I want to submit my answers that I had gone over with a job coach. Thanks.I hope this was clear.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


Re: struggling to use a UK Civil service test

 

All of the "multiple choice" options are presented as, and announced as being, radio buttons.   Using the r quick navigation shortcut I can cycle through each and every choice.  If I need to go back SHIFT+R runs through the radio buttons in reverse.  I then use the b quick navigation shortcut to go straight to the back, then next, button to move along to the next question.

When I get to the section with videos, things get a bit trickier after the video as there are clusters of scenario statements each of which is followed by a group of radio buttons with answers that gauge your feeling about what the statement said.  I had to occasionally do some switching between conventional navigation and object navigation when I needed to go back a bit, particularly from the radio buttons to the scenario statement, and I could get the statement to read with num pad +.   You also find that there are times when you somehow get into focus mode on those radio buttons, and then quick navigation doesn't work until you hit NVDA+Space to toggle back into browse mode.

I didn't go all the way to the end, but just through the first section and first video.  They seem to be fairly consistent in using buttons for primary controls and radio buttons for multiple choices.
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The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


NVDACon - the conference will be rescheduled

Adriani Botez
 

Dear all,

           

it is a busy time for the NVDA community and for NV Access. After 13 years of huge work that Michael Curran - the co-founder of NV Access - did for us, he is taking his well diserved break for some months. We wish him all the best. We will reschedule the conference to a later date end of october or beginning of november to make it possible for Mick to attend the NVDACon through the keynote of NV Access.

 

The final date will follow soon.

 

Stay tuned!

 

Best regards

Adriani

 


struggling to use a UK Civil service test

Giles Turnbull
 

Hi all,

I have applied for a job in the UK Civil Service and I have until 10th July to complete a short Situational Judgement Test. There is a website to practice the types of things that the test will cover, so I thought I'd try it out before I take the actual test ... and I'm glad I did. I find its selection controls very hard to use with NVDA.

This is the website, and if the link gets curtailed by the NVDA group system, just search for Civil Service Situational Judgement Test.
http://csr.apolloassessment.adc.uk.com/openlink/practice/

There are a few presses of the Next button before the first set of questions starts, but when you get there the first set are how the applicant behaves in the work environment.  The first time I went through this first test I found it possible to select the answers I wanted, but now I'm struggling. It seems like once I've selected one response I can'access another question nor the Next button to proceed.

Then, when I did get through that first set of questions, the second was also difficult to navigate. In the second set it gives you four questions to answer relating to a specific situation. The applicant needs to choose how an action would be, from contradictory to effective.

Once I'd selected a response to one question I didn't seem to be able to continue to the next one. The response buttons are not identified by NVDA as buttons or radio buttons, but rather are spoken as "dialogue".

I tried using object navigation rather than tabbing through the controls, but using object navigation I lose the prompts as to what the value I'm selecting is.

It'll probably take 10 minutes to have a play around with this, but if anyone has the time I'd love to hear what you think of the assessment test and if you find a way to complete it.

annoyingly the Civil Service Recruitment site doesn't have a contact email or phone number relating to the vacancy or to the "reasonable adjustments" I requested when I applied for the job.

Thanks in advance,

Giles


Re: VPN Recommendations

Antony Stone
 

The spelling was "Pearl" as in https://www.pearlvpn.com/

Regards,


Antony.

On Wednesday 03 July 2019 at 21:07:00, Cohn, Jonathan wrote:

Hello,

You will need to describe what your expectations for a VPN are, since it
can mean to very different things. When I did a google search for perl
vpn, all I saw was perl scripts and modules to manage VPN technologies.
Most perl programs can be run on the command line, and are therefore
somewhat accessible, though one needs to know the appropriate command to
execute changes. Take care,
Jonathan Cohn
--
"Remember: the S in IoT stands for Security."

- Jan-Piet Mens

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.


Re: VPN Recommendations

Jonathan COHN
 

Hello,

You will need to describe what your expectations for a VPN are, since it can mean to very different things. When I did a google search for perl vpn, all I saw was perl scripts and modules to manage VPN technologies. Most perl programs can be run on the command line, and are therefore somewhat accessible, though one needs to know the appropriate command to execute changes.
Take care,
Jonathan Cohn


Enhanced Touch Gestures 19.07 #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

Enhanced Touch Gestures 19.07 is now available. This version includes localization updates and makes the add-on compatible with NVDA 2019.2.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Cannot get rid of ducking cycle in laptop keyboard mode

marvin kotler
 

                Thank you to the below mentioned gentleman; that worked, although I did not assign the tab key on purpose, but your solution worked.

Thanks again, Marv

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 11:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Cannot get rid of ducking cycle in laptop keyboard mode

 

I assume you assigned your tab key to ducking mode.

So go to desktop mode, NVDA menu, Preferences, Input gestures..., search

for ducking, find the key, expand it, remove tab.

 

On 7/3/2019 8:27 AM, marvin kotler wrote:

> Good afternoon listers.  Have a strange  problem that just started.  As

> stated in subject line, cannot get rid of nvda cycling through the three

> audio ducking modes when tabbing in laptop keyboard mode.  I have to

> shift tab and go backwards to do anything.  Am running windows 1903 and

> latest version of nvda.  Also tried uninstalling nvda, installing an

> older version and updating to the latest version with no success

> regarding problem.  If anyone can tell me how and if I can get rid of

> the audio ducking cycle while tabbing, I would appreciate knowing it.

> When keyboard is in desktop keyboard mode, things work fine

>

> Thanks Marv

>

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for

> Windows 10

>

>

 

 

 

 


Re: Cannot get rid of ducking cycle in laptop keyboard mode

Tyler Spivey
 

I assume you assigned your tab key to ducking mode.
So go to desktop mode, NVDA menu, Preferences, Input gestures..., search for ducking, find the key, expand it, remove tab.

On 7/3/2019 8:27 AM, marvin kotler wrote:
Good afternoon listers.  Have a strange  problem that just started.  As stated in subject line, cannot get rid of nvda cycling through the three audio ducking modes when tabbing in laptop keyboard mode.  I have to shift tab and go backwards to do anything.  Am running windows 1903 and latest version of nvda.  Also tried uninstalling nvda, installing an older version and updating to the latest version with no success regarding problem.  If anyone can tell me how and if I can get rid of the audio ducking cycle while tabbing, I would appreciate knowing it.
When keyboard is in desktop keyboard mode, things work fine
Thanks Marv
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