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Re: Starting a braillenote APEX WITH NDVA
Robert Geoffroy
Thank you, Joseph, it works now, quite well!
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De : nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] De la part de Joseph Lee Envoyé : mardi 12 février 2019 16:41 À : nvda@nvda.groups.io Objet : Re: [nvda] Starting a braillenote APEX WITH NDVA Hi, Depends on which connection you are using. If using USB, you need to install the USB serial driver from HumanWare, not the JAWS driver. If using Bluetooth, you need to pair and connect with the Apex while NVDA is running. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Geoffroy Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 5:38 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Starting a braillenote APEX WITH NDVA Hi, everyone, I can use my Apex with NVDA only if I have launched it with Jaws before I disable that one. How can I start my APEX directly when using NVDA? Does anyone know a way? Thanks, Robert PS: I do enjoy Tyler Spivey’s add-on (reading of partial lines), hope you read my message!
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Re: Problems With NVDA
Brian K. Lingard
Dear Gene, Steve & List: I vote with Steve. A screenreader IS A SIZEABLE program and requires RAM all of the time in order to provide snappy response to reading commands & echo of characters or words as they are typed. If the screenreader or editor are swapped to disk or even SSD, the speech loses its snappy response, also, you have delays entering or editing text.
If you are running a big spreadsheet with many cells that are updated when other cells are changed, the whole sheet can bog down with the minimum RAM specified for Windows 10.
Word processing takes little CPU power, except when loading or saving huge documents. SSD will improve computer performance if programs must be swapped out ass it runs much faster than a HD. You can buy 15,000 RPM HD, but unless you need gigantic storage, SSD is faster and probably more reliable.
Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B.. A., C. T. M.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: February 8, 2019 9:34 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems With NVDA
What are you basing your disagreement on? Have you used 32bit Windows and with what memory? Let's see what the minimum recommendation is for Windows 10 32 bit. I would bet it is 1gb, perhaps less.
I just looked. Here is the information: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4028142/windows-windows-10-system-requirements
Of course, people shouldn't run 64 bit Windows with 2GB of RAM. But I have a 4GB of RAM computer and it runs very well. Maybe if I had programs using a fair amount of memory doing things in the background, I would have a memory shortage. But in the ways I use the computer, I don't.
I know that these days, manufactures often provide 8GB with 64bit Windows and that is a good idea. it’s better to have a certain amount extra just in case. But for years, 4GB was provided by a lot of manufactures in the Windows 7 days and a lot of people had good results. I doubt Windows 10 is less efficient in use of memory than Windows 7.
And in the case of 32bit Windows, since the minimum is 1GB, that means that the ratio is the same. You have twice as much as the minimum which should be fine for a lot of users.
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Wow I disagree, especially if you are multi-tasking, or more accurately, task switching. 2GB isn’t enough with a screen reader.
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Steve
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
That is not true. 2GB is fine for 32bit versions of Windows.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Travis Siegel Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems With NVDA
umm, you're confusing ram and storage. An SD card won't give you more
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Re: Problems With NVDA
Gene
At this point, however, there is no reason to
believe memory has anything to do with the problem. Firefox and Internet
Explorer don't use more memory than Chrome. If memory were that scarce,
that running a different browser, even if it used a little more, would cause
problems, then you would have lots of problems with other programs because you
would be on the verge of running out of RAM in general. RAM is one of the
most misunderstood components of computers and it is blamed often for problems
that have nothing to do with RAM. You can see how much RAM is being used
if you want to see if it is the problem. I don't know what version of
Windows is being used so I won't describe how.
Gene
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Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 4:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems With NVDA Some Android telephones can increase their working RAM with an SD card, however, if your computer is a laptop, the SD card will normally only provide storage for files, not increase the working RAM. To upgrade the RAM,, you need to first check with the laptop maker as to the maximum RAM it Can address. Then review your RAM chips, often in a compartment under the laptop. If all slots are full, you need to replace the presently installed RAM with larger RAM chips. You unclip the present Rams, set them aside, and plug in the new RAM. Upon power-up,, the PC will be using the new RAM which should make programs run a bit faster ESPECIALLY IF several are running at once or you are editing huge files, such as audio recordings. I trust this explains the difference between what an SD card and RAM chips will do to the laptop. Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B. A., C. T. M. From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Travis Siegel Sent: February 7, 2019 11:28 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems With NVDA umm, you're confusing ram and storage. An SD card won't give you more ram, that will only provide more external storage. swapping SD cards allows you to copy more files to those cards, but does nothing for your RAM, which is where programs run. 2GB is pretty low for any version of windows, except if you're using a tablet, there's not much you can do about it. If you're on a pc, it's (usually) easy to upgrade the ram in the computer, providing you have empty slots or the ram you have isn't maxed out. Most machines can only take a limited amount of ram, and you need to know what that limit is before trying to upgrade the machine. However, though I don't know for sure, it sounds to me like you're talking about a tablet, in which case, the ram isn't upgradable. On 2/7/2019 7:05 PM, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote: > Hello again: > I thank all those who found time to respond to my issue. > Brian, My GB Ram is a low grid. It is just 2GB. But even with that I > don't have this problem with JAWS. But as I said yesterday, chrome > appears to be reasonably fine with the screen reader, although Firefox > and internet explorer are almost unusable. > I am thinking of increasing my GB ram with an SD Card. > Regards. > Ibrahim. On 2/7/19, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io > <bglists@...> wrote: >> Well I'd not go that far but it is faster on lower spec machines, >> certainly. >> Brian >> >> bglists@... >> Sent via blueyonder. >> Please address personal E-mail to:- >> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >> in the display name field. >> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@...> >> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 8:36 AM >> Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems With NVDA >> >> >> Use Chrome, it is better than either Firefox or Internet Explorer. >> >> All the best >> >> Steve >> >> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ibrahim >> Ajayi >> Sent: 07 February 2019 00:07 >> To: nvda@groups.io >> Subject: [nvda] Problems With NVDA >> >> Hello: >> I am having problems with my NVDA screen reader. >> The screen reader is just too slow when I am browsing the internet. >> When I am doing some other work like word processing or reading >> documents off line, it is not slow. >> This problem has nothing to do with the websites, as I don't have >> this slow >> >> problems online with JAWS. I use a demo copy of JAWS. >> Secondly, when I visit a website, or even some times when I launch a >> web browser like internet explorer or Firefox, I hear "internet >> explorer unknown" or "Firefox unknown" and the screen goes quiet, and >> when I press the arrow down key, that is what I keep hearing. Some >> times, when I am on a >> >> site, or trying to open a site, the screen reader crashes, and >> disables the >> >> computer itself. I just have to shut it down, and then restart it >> all over >> >> again. >> Does anyone understand the problem I am having with my NVDA screen reader? >> I use windows7 32 bit on a laptop. >> I have the latest update of the screen reader. >> Hope to read a helpful response. >> I am Ibrahim.
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Re: In-Process 8th February
Brian K. Lingard
Dear Zahra & List:
You may use the NVDA manual and other documents as study guides before writing the certification test. If you pass, this is great news. If you do not, note the answers you got right and research the ones you did not get correct. Then when you may rewrite the certification test, do so. Your score will likely improve a lot. I believe Iran is under USA and United Nations sanctions to do with the Government's alleged nuclear weapons program, not permitting other currencies to be traded for Iranian banknotes. If you pass the certification test, and are able to travel to another land not subject to financial sanctions, then I expect you could pay for your certificate of proficiency at that time. In the meanwhile, you are still qualified, so may train others in English & Farcie and perhaps Arabic, in the use of NVDA. NVDA will be able to attest to you having passed their certification, although at present, you are unable to pay for the certificate. You can also transliterate the NVDA documentation, together with your own notes to augment it, into Farce and perhaps Arabic. At least I trust this is how you can proceed. Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B. A., C. T. M. From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Zahra Sent: February 7, 2019 11:42 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] In-Process 8th February hi again. I wish to be in the list of certificate people. but what can I do when we can't pay in Iran? On 2/7/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote: Hi Zahra,4 On 2/7/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:--Hi everyone,Expert -- By God, where I give all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: Problems With NVDA
Brian K. Lingard
Dear Ibrahim Ajayi && List:
Some Android telephones can increase their working RAM with an SD card, however, if your computer is a laptop, the SD card will normally only provide storage for files, not increase the working RAM. To upgrade the RAM,, you need to first check with the laptop maker as to the maximum RAM it Can address. Then review your RAM chips, often in a compartment under the laptop. If all slots are full, you need to replace the presently installed RAM with larger RAM chips. You unclip the present Rams, set them aside, and plug in the new RAM. Upon power-up,, the PC will be using the new RAM which should make programs run a bit faster ESPECIALLY IF several are running at once or you are editing huge files, such as audio recordings. I trust this explains the difference between what an SD card and RAM chips will do to the laptop. Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B. A., C. T. M. From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Travis Siegel Sent: February 7, 2019 11:28 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems With NVDA umm, you're confusing ram and storage. An SD card won't give you more ram, that will only provide more external storage. swapping SD cards allows you to copy more files to those cards, but does nothing for your RAM, which is where programs run. 2GB is pretty low for any version of windows, except if you're using a tablet, there's not much you can do about it. If you're on a pc, it's (usually) easy to upgrade the ram in the computer, providing you have empty slots or the ram you have isn't maxed out. Most machines can only take a limited amount of ram, and you need to know what that limit is before trying to upgrade the machine. However, though I don't know for sure, it sounds to me like you're talking about a tablet, in which case, the ram isn't upgradable. On 2/7/2019 7:05 PM, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote: Hello again:On 2/7/19, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:Well I'd not go that far but it is faster on lower spec machines,
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Re: Obtaining Outlook2019
Brian's Mail list account
Yes as there are several options. You may wish to use the subscription model version and if you keep paying you get all the updates. it really depends on your needs and whether always being up to date matters.
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Myself I don't really care, though will probably consider it for Windows 10 when I decide to move, since outlook express is a pain to adapt to 10 anode word I use on 7 won't even install on 10. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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Re: NVDA and sounds
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At the risk of being too frivolous, the old Victor Borge comedy skit where he proposes that every punctuation mark should have a sound when being read is worth a listen. It will be on Youtube if you have not encountered it before. Its very old, he has been dead for years. Ahead of his time.
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From: "marcio via Groups.Io" <marcinhorj21@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 12:35 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and sounds LOL it really would be sooo funny to have something like that in NVDA!
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Re: NVDA and sounds
Brian's Mail list account
Just to be sure, do you mean a sound on certain types of concepts, or sounds allied to certain words directly?
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There is a 3D sound thing for nvda, and does help with showing the layout of a screen, but it will not work well in the next versions of nvda unless somebody fixes it. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "marcio via Groups.Io" <marcinhorj21@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 12:19 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and sounds I had never heard about this concept before your message. How is it? An
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Re: NVDA and power point
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The ones I hat are those designed to be so ornate that even the writing is a graphic.
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From: "molly the blind tech lover" <brainardmolly@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and power point Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Wells Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:59 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and power point F5 should switch to slide view. On 2/13/2019 2:31 PM, Chris Shook wrote: Hi,
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Re: how do i get my NVDA to read powerpoints
Brian's Mail list account
Well surely that is their fault not yours, Over here in the UK reasonable adjustments would cover making stuff at least readable in the equality act. Its not a lot to ask these days.
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From: "molly the blind tech lover" <brainardmolly@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] how do i get my NVDA to read powerpoints Thanks. Most of the pdf files are okay. Though I did have to tell NVDA to stop saying clickable. But the textbook on blackboard are scanned and well… not fun. From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 5:05 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] how do i get my NVDA to read powerpoints Pdf is not to bad unless its a scanned image most of pdfs are ok. If its not there are ways to get it, if you can email that pdf to yourself in gmail, you can click the view as html and it will do so and you can save that I think. It won't be tabled just a single column of text but it can be done. On 14/02/2019 9:53 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: I don't love pdf, but when my professors ship powerpoint, I'm usually in a hurry for the information. So, I open the powerpoint and thump it to pdf using powerpoint's save as feature. Then I get a heading structure and access to tables. Best, Erik On February 13, 2019 3:34:32 PM "molly the blind tech lover" <mailto:brainardmolly@...> <brainardmolly@...> wrote: Hey guys, Molly here again 😀 I need to access somepowerpoints for school. How do I get NVDA to read them? Thanks. And sorry if I’m asking a question that has already been answered.
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Re: Accessibility tips on this website would be appreciated
Brian's Mail list account
Yes but intelligent alt tagging can help here. What I think he needs to know is if google have cracked it. Since I could not make any sense of their site either, I suspect its still a grey area. after all it is a bit like tactile maps. You need to be able to emboss them. Here we have a three d object and yet it has to be shoved down a serial one dimensional channel and made sense of.The reason sight works is that its a wide band medium and one can see context, not just what is where the focus is. I often point out to web builders that they need to imagine they are viewing their site only through a long narrow tube like the centre of a toilet roll. No context of what you see is visible, and hence the person using the site is at a disadvantage, a bit like a fly in the middle of a maze who cannot fly over the hedges as his wings are broken.
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From: "Chris Shook" <chris0309@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility tips on this website would be appreciated Greg,
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Re: Accessibility tips on this website would be appreciated
Brian's Mail list account
That is terrible. they should go and read the specs. I understand that gov sites in the US have to adhere to certain standards, and nobody would ever suggest that this is just using the tab key these days. Nvda itself can navigate by landmarks, headings buttons form fields links etc etc etc.
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I think I'll leave it to others with a better memory for the actual web sites with the accredited stuff on. I would though think that from the sounds of it, your customers need to read the docs as well as tab order can be important but its most certainly far too narrow an aspect to base access on. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: <greg@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility tips on this website would be appreciated Chris, I'm not blind....and so I am very inexperienced with NVDA. but most of my work is done for governments (in the U.S.).....and no two of them adhere to the same standard for the accessibility of their content. I deal with marketing directors and most of them have no idea what a screenreader is or does....but they have may have been told that if you can tab through the project, then it should be OK. Let me explain further. The panoramas that I shoot are the same specialized type of photography that is found on Google Street View. If you can imagine a sphere or a ball....and being inside the sphere in a chair with the photo of everything around you shown pictorially on the curved wall of the sphere while you push the sphere around with your mouse, you will appreciate the nature of the accessibility problem. To be sure, the more detailed the description of each panoramic scene, the better I'm sure. So, having said that, I would be interested in getting opinion from this forum regarding the accessibility of Google Street View. My problem is, that when I am doing sales, I might actually only get 2 out of 10 people that I call to look at my stuff. And I know for a fact that some those that do, are using their tab key as a test...and if it doesn't jump to all of the elements on the page, they will disqualify me and I will never talk with them again. That is why I asked about Google Street View. When test it using NVDA....and I get into the Photos or Street View Section, I can only get NVDA to speak "photo 1, photo 2, photo 3, etc.) In some cases they have better captions then that, but I don't know how to manipulate NVDA to get to them. Thank you for your response! -- Greg Hosler www.photographyoptions.com ( http://www.photographyoptions.com ) Greg@... 865-774-9755
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Re: Accessibility tips on this website would be appreciated
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Basically then, if Flash is at all involved you are probably sunk.
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The guy may be a genius, but I certainly think you might need to consider a simpler system for access users. I've come across this sort of thing many times where there is no equivalent accessible way to interact with the graphic content. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: <greg@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessibility tips on this website would be appreciated Hmmm. Jackie....I'm glad that you can see all that. The development program I'm using is called KR Pano and it was created by this guy in Austria named Klaus Reinfeld....who I think is a genius. It is based on his own javascript recipe with a flash fallback for machines with older graphics cards. It uses a unique type of .xml programming to incorporate all of this other content into the panoramas....like youtube videos, still image galleries, straight line video, etc. All of that extra stuff is cool....but it really complicates the screen reader accessibility because the screen reader focuses on the skin....or very outside of the spherical image which takes up the entire screen...and there is no easy way to penetrate into the panorama itself where there may be buttons or iframes that are embedded into inside wall of the panorama. -- Greg Hosler www.photographyoptions.com ( http://www.photographyoptions.com ) Greg@... 865-774-9755
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Re: ie unsafe dolphin users
Brian's Mail list account
It now has a very good auto scripting kind of menu driven configuration, but sadly few have the patience to use it, including their own engineers.
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I do still use their OCR from time to time, but apart from that its a bit sad really. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Richard Bartholomew" <rlbart53@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] ie unsafe dolphin users Just for info even though non-NVDA related.Dolphin were founded in the
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Re: ie unsafe dolphin users
Brian's Mail list account
Supernova is the screenreade series these days, you can have magnification sound and Braille depending on the cost you want to pay. Before had Hal, Supernova and Cypher.
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From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] ie unsafe dolphin users Hi, Brad,
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Re: ie unsafe dolphin users
Brian's Mail list account
Its a citation like a whale.. Oh, you mean in the sense of access? they are originally a UK company who make screenreaders. Indeed they used to be leaders, but have very much fallen behind since windows 10 came out in my view.
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The do make a free app for mobile phones though for books etc, which has been gaining a lot of friends called Easyreader. Of course as its free they are not going to make much from it. In my view they simply lost the plot when they bought Guide and put a lot of resources into a dumbed down self voicing windows suite that they thought every pensioner would buy, but didn't. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "molly the blind tech lover" <brainardmolly@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] ie unsafe dolphin users What is dolphin? -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 4:29 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] ie unsafe dolphin users Hi. Small message to all users of dolphin stuff, email support and tell them to hurry up with using modern brousers or something. Yeah dolphin seem to be slowly crawling towards modern brousers. If you are a dolphin user, ie is the best brouser to use,. Its the only brouser to use. This is utterly disgusting and is pritty much an insult to all users because everyone else has caught up. I don't care to bash, but here I am a user mostly past but still a user bashing dolphin because they have been slow for like ages, and ie is basically on the way out. You really wander if dolphin have a death wish everyone has jumpped ship allready. Now, pass this to whoever gives a damn. And another thing, don't discuss any of this on here, I don't want to generate a thread on this or anything this is just a notification to users to ask dolphin nicely to use something like chromium at least is all if its only 1 brouser they can take. If they can handle chrome and chromeum, fire and waterfox, etc then maybe. To be honest we shouldn't be asking our what is usually or has been for ages a reasonable reader company to move their collective but but its like been over 10 years and I think ie8 has been the last version we can use, maybe we can use 11 now but still its been like that for ages.
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Re: some discoveries about the sluggishness in excel 2016
Brian's Mail list account
It sounds then, if I read you right that in the case of jaws, it knows there will be a performance hit, and takes it ones and caches the result so it does not need to recalculate the situation every time you move the focus it simply moves it in the cache. But one supposes that if you alter something it would need to write that, and re read the situation then. My feeling is that these delays are the sluggish UIA that Microsoft use.
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From: "Alexandre Alves Toco" <alexandretoco@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 9:20 AM Subject: [nvda] some discoveries about the sluggishness in excel 2016 Hi friends. I already sent my thoughts to info@.... But I decided to post it here just in case some one can examine it too. I have a worksheet where the navigation is slow with nvda. When I examined it with jaws, it identified the column headers as dropdown lists whereas nvda only read the text. Nevertheless, if I go to the column header cell with nvda and press alt + downarrow, it reads the options to filter and sort the lines. When I open another worksheet, this time only with simple columns, the navigation with nvda goes with normal speed. So my conclusion is thath the sluggishness is related with the resource that allows the dropdown lists. It sounds like in every arrowkey press, nvda is requesting excel to redo the filter or sort. Jaws does it once because, when I change the focus to the worksheet, it says “please wait” and a second laer I can navigate with normal speed. I know that I can’t put attachments to the list. So, if some one want the example worksheet to test, please e-mail me. Regards Enviado do Email para Windows 10
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Re: how do i get my NVDA to read powerpoints
Christo de Klerk
Thank you so much. This is really
excellent and very helpful.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2019/02/13 10:55 PM,
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