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Re: Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

 

The wonderful thing about the Windows OneCore voices, in all languages, is that they're all free and able to be downloaded and installed in mere minutes.  I don't use anywhere near to all of the voices available for English, but I have US, Canadian, UK, and Australian dialects installed.
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Re: Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

Louise Pfau
 

On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 03:58 PM, Wesley Martin wrote:

Hi. I use primarily the Microsoft Richard Canadian voice, even though I live in the USA.

Me too, but I'm in Canada.  I really like that particular voice.

Louise


Re: Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

mattias
 

Stay away from cepstral!

They are unstable on modern windows

 

Skickades från E-post för Windows

 

Från: Wesley Martin
Skickat: den 21 augusti 2022 23:58
Till: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Ämne: Re: [nvda] Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

 

Hi. I'm a relatively new list member, but I'd like to respond. I use primarily the Microsoft Richard Canadian voice, even though I live in the USA. Also, you can get some very high-quality voices at cepstral.com  but they're not free.

 


Re: how to configure inline speach rate of eloquence and vocalizer for NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

It is not possible.

When you configure anything in Eloquence settings, you can not configure in other place...

It is like that with Android, Windows and so on...


Rui Fontes


Às 08:51 de 22/08/2022, Abhijit Kasbe escreveu:

Hello all!
i am using eloquence and vocalizer by code factory with NVDA.
i have configured speech rate from the eloquence setting so , now if i do change the speech rate from the NVDA then the speed does not changes.
but if i do disable speech rate from the eloquence settings then i am able to change.
does anyone knows how to do this having speech rate configured from the eloquence setting?

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best regards.


how to configure inline speach rate of eloquence and vocalizer for NVDA

Abhijit Kasbe <abhijitkasbe78@...>
 

Hello all!
i am using eloquence and vocalizer by code factory with NVDA.
i have configured speech rate from the eloquence setting so , now if i do change the speech rate from the NVDA then the speed does not changes.
but if i do disable speech rate from the eloquence settings then i am able to change.
does anyone knows how to do this having speech rate configured from the eloquence setting?

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best regards.


Re: Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

Wesley Martin <wesleymartin9980@...>
 

Hi. I'm a relatively new list member, but I'd like to respond. I use primarily the Microsoft Richard Canadian voice, even though I live in the USA. Also, you can get some very high-quality voices at cepstral.com  but they're not free.


Re: When composing email in gmail web how to delete a receiver?

Sarah k Alawami
 

I tab into the section then use j and k to move up and down. Then x to select.  This in chrome, don’t have Firefox on my system yet.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2022 11:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] When composing email in gmail web how to delete a receiver?

 

I don't use the GMail web interface for reading mail.  I've played a little with the web interface and at this point, I don't know why you can't move in focus mode.  There may be a command you need to use to move to the e-mail list first.  Others will likely discuss the question.

Gene

On 8/21/2022 12:54 PM, zahra wrote:

hi gene.
i went to focus mode in my firefox and cant use keyboard at all to for
example navigate in the list of my emails. how is it possible to use
email and go to previous or next items in focus mode?
 
On 8/2/22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
But most people use IMAP, not POP these days.  If you use a different
computer, all the mail you have saved on the server or that is in the
inbox will automatically download to the e-mail program on the computer
you are using.
 
As for efficient, while I haven't used on line interfaces much and I
might alter my opinion if I did, I haven't found any interface that is
as efficient as an e-mail program where I just move down a list of
messages and press enter on one I want to read.
 
In GMail, for example, If I want to read an e-mail without hearing a lot
of verbiage I don't care about, I have to keep switching between having
browse mode off and browse mode on.  If I use the browse mode off method
GMail provides to move from one message to another and have it read
while leaving browse mode off, there is a lot of excessive verbiage that
is announced at the beginning of every message.
 
Gene
 
On 8/2/2022 8:13 AM, Thomas N. Chan wrote:
You can download emails onto your gmail.
like example, if you have an hotmail or yahoo email, you can set it up
whereby it will download like pop email onto a label aka folder. more
efficient  as compared to an email client.
I can  move to different computer and see the same email. I delete
one, it will be gone from the rest. since  gmail itself allows you to
download mails, you can also delete it or leave it on your mail server.
 your email client can only work if you have a working computer. if
your computer dies or laptop gone, then where is all your emails?
 
It might be subjective if email client is faster for some but I can
move around in gmail faster than on outlook.
 
 
Regards,
Thomas N. Chan
 
 
On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 3:28 PM Gene <gsasner@...
<mailto:gsasner@...>> wrote:
 
    I used to think that you needed a different interface for online
    e-mail with every provider.  I was informed by a knowledgeable
    person, however, that GMail allows you to use GMail for different
    providers.  I don't know how this is done nor what providers you
    can use with the GMail interface.
 
    I don't think any online interface for e-mail is as efficient as
    an e-mail program for blind users but if people want to use online
    interfaces, knowing that GMail offers consolidation may be
    important for some users with different providers.
 
    Gene
 
    On 8/2/2022 2:21 AM, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io
    <http://groups.io> wrote:
    Oh I'm sure, but the big  niggled I have on web delivered mail is
    that having accounts on different ISPs each and every interface
    is totally different, whereas all are the same in a client in
    most respects. I try to keep things simple.
    Brian
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 


Re: When composing email in gmail web how to delete a receiver?

Gene
 

I don't use the GMail web interface for reading mail.  I've played a little with the web interface and at this point, I don't know why you can't move in focus mode.  There may be a command you need to use to move to the e-mail list first.  Others will likely discuss the question.

Gene

On 8/21/2022 12:54 PM, zahra wrote:

hi gene.
i went to focus mode in my firefox and cant use keyboard at all to for
example navigate in the list of my emails. how is it possible to use
email and go to previous or next items in focus mode?

On 8/2/22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
But most people use IMAP, not POP these days.  If you use a different
computer, all the mail you have saved on the server or that is in the
inbox will automatically download to the e-mail program on the computer
you are using.

As for efficient, while I haven't used on line interfaces much and I
might alter my opinion if I did, I haven't found any interface that is
as efficient as an e-mail program where I just move down a list of
messages and press enter on one I want to read.

In GMail, for example, If I want to read an e-mail without hearing a lot
of verbiage I don't care about, I have to keep switching between having
browse mode off and browse mode on.  If I use the browse mode off method
GMail provides to move from one message to another and have it read
while leaving browse mode off, there is a lot of excessive verbiage that
is announced at the beginning of every message.

Gene

On 8/2/2022 8:13 AM, Thomas N. Chan wrote:
You can download emails onto your gmail.
like example, if you have an hotmail or yahoo email, you can set it up
whereby it will download like pop email onto a label aka folder. more
efficient  as compared to an email client.
I can  move to different computer and see the same email. I delete
one, it will be gone from the rest. since  gmail itself allows you to
download mails, you can also delete it or leave it on your mail server.
 your email client can only work if you have a working computer. if
your computer dies or laptop gone, then where is all your emails?

It might be subjective if email client is faster for some but I can
move around in gmail faster than on outlook.


Regards,
Thomas N. Chan


On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 3:28 PM Gene <gsasner@...
<mailto:gsasner@...>> wrote:

    I used to think that you needed a different interface for online
    e-mail with every provider.  I was informed by a knowledgeable
    person, however, that GMail allows you to use GMail for different
    providers.  I don't know how this is done nor what providers you
    can use with the GMail interface.

    I don't think any online interface for e-mail is as efficient as
    an e-mail program for blind users but if people want to use online
    interfaces, knowing that GMail offers consolidation may be
    important for some users with different providers.

    Gene

    On 8/2/2022 2:21 AM, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io
    <http://groups.io> wrote:
    Oh I'm sure, but the big  niggled I have on web delivered mail is
    that having accounts on different ISPs each and every interface
    is totally different, whereas all are the same in a client in
    most respects. I try to keep things simple.
    Brian











Re: When composing email in gmail web how to delete a receiver?

 

hi gene.
i went to focus mode in my firefox and cant use keyboard at all to for
example navigate in the list of my emails. how is it possible to use
email and go to previous or next items in focus mode?

On 8/2/22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
But most people use IMAP, not POP these days. If you use a different
computer, all the mail you have saved on the server or that is in the
inbox will automatically download to the e-mail program on the computer
you are using.

As for efficient, while I haven't used on line interfaces much and I
might alter my opinion if I did, I haven't found any interface that is
as efficient as an e-mail program where I just move down a list of
messages and press enter on one I want to read.

In GMail, for example, If I want to read an e-mail without hearing a lot
of verbiage I don't care about, I have to keep switching between having
browse mode off and browse mode on. If I use the browse mode off method
GMail provides to move from one message to another and have it read
while leaving browse mode off, there is a lot of excessive verbiage that
is announced at the beginning of every message.

Gene

On 8/2/2022 8:13 AM, Thomas N. Chan wrote:
You can download emails onto your gmail.
like example, if you have an hotmail or yahoo email, you can set it up
whereby it will download like pop email onto a label aka folder. more
efficient as compared to an email client.
I can move to different computer and see the same email. I delete
one, it will be gone from the rest. since gmail itself allows you to
download mails, you can also delete it or leave it on your mail server.
your email client can only work if you have a working computer. if
your computer dies or laptop gone, then where is all your emails?

It might be subjective if email client is faster for some but I can
move around in gmail faster than on outlook.


Regards,
Thomas N. Chan


On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 3:28 PM Gene <gsasner@...
<mailto:gsasner@...>> wrote:

I used to think that you needed a different interface for online
e-mail with every provider. I was informed by a knowledgeable
person, however, that GMail allows you to use GMail for different
providers. I don't know how this is done nor what providers you
can use with the GMail interface.

I don't think any online interface for e-mail is as efficient as
an e-mail program for blind users but if people want to use online
interfaces, knowing that GMail offers consolidation may be
important for some users with different providers.

Gene

On 8/2/2022 2:21 AM, Brian's Mail list account via groups.io
<http://groups.io> wrote:
Oh I'm sure, but the big niggled I have on web delivered mail is
that having accounts on different ISPs each and every interface
is totally different, whereas all are the same in a client in
most respects. I try to keep things simple.
Brian





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were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

Sarah k Alawami
 

I never actually deactivated my licenses, and it I believe kept my voices. You can deactivate if you want, jus tin case, I didn’t have to re-dl my voices though.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of The Gamages via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2022 4:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

 

Hello Halie,

 

I had the same misunderstanding, I thought I needed to buy a new version of Vocaliser voices, but all you need to do is update the license as described by others, don't forget to unsubscribe your license key before installing the update.

You will need to download the voices again when complete.

 

Best Regards, Jim.

 

On 20/08/2022 22:26, Haylie Gallacher wrote:

With the Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working in the latest NVDA version, what are people using at this point?  If you could provide me with links where I can get new voices, that would be great.

Thanks,

Haylie

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Re: Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

The Gamages
 

Hello Halie,


I had the same misunderstanding, I thought I needed to buy a new version of Vocaliser voices, but all you need to do is update the license as described by others, don't forget to unsubscribe your license key before installing the update.

You will need to download the voices again when complete.


Best Regards, Jim.


On 20/08/2022 22:26, Haylie Gallacher wrote:

With the Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working in the latest NVDA version, what are people using at this point?  If you could provide me with links where I can get new voices, that would be great.

Thanks,

Haylie

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Re: Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

Sarah k Alawami
 

I’m using the latest one from atGuys. Download the latest from code factory. They work fine here.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Haylie Gallacher
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2022 6:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

 

What version of the Code Factory voices?  They are not working on the computer I updated to the latest version of NVDA.

Thanks,

Haylie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2022 6:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

 

I’m using the code factory voices with the latest nvda version.  What seems to be the trouble? They are working fine here, knock on wood.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Haylie Gallacher
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2022 2:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

 

With the Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working in the latest NVDA version, what are people using at this point?  If you could provide me with links where I can get new voices, that would be great.

Thanks,

Haylie


Re: Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

Gene
 

I should add that I am talking about United States voices.  I don't know what country you are in and what voices you have from Microsoft.

Gene

On 8/20/2022 8:35 PM, Gene wrote:

Are you using an add-on for the voices?  I don't use them and I don't recall, from the little I played with them if an add-on is required.  If so, the add-on needs updating.  I'll let others discuss how to do that.

Meanwhile, you asked about other voices.  From the little playing around with the Vocalizer Voices I did, it appears to me that the Microsoft One Core Voice Cira is roughly equivalent to the Vocalizer lower quality options.  I consider the lower quality options to be significantly superior in naturalness to the supposedly higher quality options.  They pause more naturally and they may have less problems joining words together. 

You may want to continue to use Code Factory Voices but meantime, Cira may be a good free option that is already on the machine.
You may like David but Cira is a little better at diction.

Gene

On 8/20/2022 8:00 PM, Haylie Gallacher wrote:

What version of the Code Factory voices?  They are not working on the computer I updated to the latest version of NVDA.

Thanks,

Haylie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2022 6:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

 

I’m using the code factory voices with the latest nvda version.  What seems to be the trouble? They are working fine here, knock on wood.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Haylie Gallacher
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2022 2:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

 

With the Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working in the latest NVDA version, what are people using at this point?  If you could provide me with links where I can get new voices, that would be great.

Thanks,

Haylie




Re: Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

Gene
 

Are you using an add-on for the voices?  I don't use them and I don't recall, from the little I played with them if an add-on is required.  If so, the add-on needs updating.  I'll let others discuss how to do that.

Meanwhile, you asked about other voices.  From the little playing around with the Vocalizer Voices I did, it appears to me that the Microsoft One Core Voice Cira is roughly equivalent to the Vocalizer lower quality options.  I consider the lower quality options to be significantly superior in naturalness to the supposedly higher quality options.  They pause more naturally and they may have less problems joining words together. 

You may want to continue to use Code Factory Voices but meantime, Cira may be a good free option that is already on the machine.
You may like David but Cira is a little better at diction.

Gene

On 8/20/2022 8:00 PM, Haylie Gallacher wrote:

What version of the Code Factory voices?  They are not working on the computer I updated to the latest version of NVDA.

Thanks,

Haylie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2022 6:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

 

I’m using the code factory voices with the latest nvda version.  What seems to be the trouble? They are working fine here, knock on wood.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Haylie Gallacher
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2022 2:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

 

With the Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working in the latest NVDA version, what are people using at this point?  If you could provide me with links where I can get new voices, that would be great.

Thanks,

Haylie



Re: Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello,

If you haven't updated the add-on, you will need to do this with the latest version from the link I provided earlier.

Thanks.

On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 6:00 PM Haylie Gallacher <haylieg2780@...> wrote:

What version of the Code Factory voices?  They are not working on the computer I updated to the latest version of NVDA.

Thanks,

Haylie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2022 6:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

 

I’m using the code factory voices with the latest nvda version.  What seems to be the trouble? They are working fine here, knock on wood.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Haylie Gallacher
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2022 2:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

 

With the Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working in the latest NVDA version, what are people using at this point?  If you could provide me with links where I can get new voices, that would be great.

Thanks,

Haylie



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Thank you, and have a great day!


Re: Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

Haylie Gallacher
 

What version of the Code Factory voices?  They are not working on the computer I updated to the latest version of NVDA.

Thanks,

Haylie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2022 6:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

 

I’m using the code factory voices with the latest nvda version.  What seems to be the trouble? They are working fine here, knock on wood.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Haylie Gallacher
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2022 2:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

 

With the Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working in the latest NVDA version, what are people using at this point?  If you could provide me with links where I can get new voices, that would be great.

Thanks,

Haylie


Re: Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

Sarah k Alawami
 

I’m using the code factory voices with the latest nvda version.  What seems to be the trouble? They are working fine here, knock on wood.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Haylie Gallacher
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2022 2:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

 

With the Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working in the latest NVDA version, what are people using at this point?  If you could provide me with links where I can get new voices, that would be great.

Thanks,

Haylie


Re: Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

Don H
 

Code factory voices work great with the latest NVDA

On 8/20/2022 4:26 PM, Haylie Gallacher wrote:
With the Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working in the latest NVDA
version, what are people using at this point?  If you could provide me
with links where I can get new voices, that would be great.

Thanks,

Haylie


Re: Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello,

I believe the latest add-on does work with NVDA 2022.1 and can be downloaded at https://nvda-addons.org/files/get.php?file=codefactory

Thanks.

On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 2:54 PM Haylie Gallacher <haylieg2780@...> wrote:

With the Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working in the latest NVDA version, what are people using at this point?  If you could provide me with links where I can get new voices, that would be great.

Thanks,

Haylie



--
Best,

Nimer Jaber

Check out and subscribe to BlindTechAdventures in podcast audio form on YouTube for the latest happenings in tech.

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

Thank you, and have a great day!


Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working - Other Synthesizer Options

Haylie Gallacher
 

With the Code Factory Vocalizer Voices not working in the latest NVDA version, what are people using at this point?  If you could provide me with links where I can get new voices, that would be great.

Thanks,

Haylie

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