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Re: Error for searching in Google search engine in Firefox ESR 60

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, Brian


Not in my recollection either or nor installed extension from Firefox ESR 60, it happens after I got received this update. For the meantime, I clear the cache files and restart. Normally, occurs every time when trying to search particular site to Google search engine. Not sure exactly why this sometimes knocking to my end.


Robert Mendoza

On 9/7/2018 2:35 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Never encountered this, but I was wondering what exactly it is that is doing this? Is there a new extension in Firefox or maybe an existing one is not living well with the new code and needs to be disabled?
Do you hide your ip address in any way? What happens if you start a new private browsing session?
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Mendoza" <lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 4:29 AM
Subject: [nvda] Error for searching in Google search engine in Firefox ESR 60


Hi, folks,

Sorry for off topic but personally this is the first time I encountered after the update received yesterday from my Firefox ESR version 60

It's kinda annoying because everytime I search something to the particular site in Google search engine it keeps me prompting this noticed
"Our systems have detected unusual traffic from your computer network. This page checks to see if it's really you sending the requests, and not a robot. Why did this happen?"

I even tried to go directly to the site of Google instead but same results I've got. Does anyone has solutions for this? But when I used Google browser it works fine. Thanks.

Robert Mendoza





Talking about Tor: Is there any tutorial to use the programme?

Mallard
 

Hello list,

I've been wanting to use Tor for a whle, more out of curiosity than of real need, but have never found anyone to give me clues.

Is there any tutorial available, possibly in text, but also in audio for lack of text?

Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
Ciao,
Ollie


Re: Error for searching in Google search engine in Firefox ESR 60

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Never encountered this, but I was wondering what exactly it is that is doing this? Is there a new extension in Firefox or maybe an existing one is not living well with the new code and needs to be disabled?
Do you hide your ip address in any way? What happens if you start a new private browsing session?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Mendoza" <lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 4:29 AM
Subject: [nvda] Error for searching in Google search engine in Firefox ESR 60


Hi, folks,

Sorry for off topic but personally this is the first time I encountered after the update received yesterday from my Firefox ESR version 60

It's kinda annoying because everytime I search something to the particular site in Google search engine it keeps me prompting this noticed
"Our systems have detected unusual traffic from your computer network. This page checks to see if it's really you sending the requests, and not a robot. Why did this happen?"

I even tried to go directly to the site of Google instead but same results I've got. Does anyone has solutions for this? But when I used Google browser it works fine. Thanks.

Robert Mendoza



Re: [Internet Security] PSA: Multiple Vulnerabilities Present In Firefox 61

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I did say I was not going to say this about the new quantum mess, but I've changed my mind.

Told you so.
Reinventing a wheel from scratch merely replaces a set of design flaws which are well understood, with a whole new set which are not.
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Sent: Friday, September 07, 2018 2:51 AM
Subject: [nvda] [Internet Security] PSA: Multiple Vulnerabilities Present In Firefox 61


Given the discussion about updating Firefox on this list, I thought
I'd send this. It'd be a good idea to update asap.

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Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2018 00:34:49 +0000
Subject: [Internet Security] PSA: Multiple Vulnerabilities Present In Firefox 61
To: abletec@gmail.com

Multiple security issues, including some of high and critical
severity, have been patched in the latest version of Mozilla Firefox.

In an advisory published yesterday, Mozilla disclosed the presence of
nine security flaws in Firefox 61 which have been patched in the
latest release of the browser. Some of the bugs are severe, but at
this time do not appear to be receiving attacks in the wild. In
today's post (https://www.wordfence.com/blog/2018/09/psa-multiple-vulnerabilities-present-in-firefox-61/?utm_source=list&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=090618&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-9n07rIMSt61Wa89UOUia3GNTf7Orc4WwjlDNYRZj3q8kAe4XL_IwQ5LYNplCxEpQtlNAxz1KuUqdxdjSektR6ahehYPw&_hsmi=65746406
) , we'll discuss more about these vulnerabilities and how to ensure
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Re: FireFox Issues Discussion

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Yes that is exactly why I am still using windows 7 and have waterfox on it. I do still have firefox 52, but as of the end of August no security updates are being offered for that version.

Waterfox is 64 bit only, so no good on 32 bit versions of windows.

To me as long as you do not have anyone is click happy on your machine and scan it regularly and do not visited dodgy sites anything more threatening than tracking cookies or maybe bundled rubbishware are unlikely.
Be mindful of the discussion about Ccleaner only being safe in its portable guise though.
You may find that soon many web sites may not work well with the older Firefox, needing Chrome based, Edge based or Quantum based browsers. This might affect Waterfox, but may not if they spoof the data it sends to the web site to pretend to be a later version of firefox.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Russell" <david.sonofhashem@gmail.com>
To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 10:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] FireFox Issues Discussion


Hello Group,

OK, I have learned a couple things since posting eight or so hours ago.

- I have FF 52. I now get one of those Do you want to allow FireFox to
install .... when going into use Mozilla FireFox, tab to the no answer
and it allows me to conduct business as usual. I can live with that.

- I also saw Davy's notice about what the update concerns, but am
reluctant to accept it because of what occurred before and was
generally described in previous posts.
- I was able to do my work and other ordinary routine today without
too much hassle.
- I have three versions of NVDA on my computer, but not sure how to
tell which is the latest working one. I use a desktop not a laptop
computer.
- I set Security Essentials to do a full scan and spyware check during
my breakfast time Friday and the computer does not have to be on for
that to occur.
Thus for now, going to leave things as they are until a better doable
resolution comes along. I have some major projects forthcoming, and
cannot afford to have my computer disabled.

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Error for searching in Google search engine in Firefox ESR 60

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, folks,

Sorry for off topic but personally this is the first time I encountered after the update received yesterday from my Firefox ESR version 60

It's kinda annoying because everytime I search something to the particular site in Google search engine it keeps me prompting this noticed
"Our systems have detected unusual traffic from your computer network. This page checks to see if it's really you sending the requests, and not a robot. Why did this happen?"

I even tried to go directly to the site of Google instead but same results I've got. Does anyone has solutions for this? But when I used Google browser it works fine. Thanks.

Robert Mendoza


Re: NVDA and Tor browser

Gene
 

I don't know what is causing the accessibility proboem but I have a guess.  If the browser is completely inaccessible, my guess is that it has updated to a Quantum version of Chrome and that, for some reason, the accessibility setting has been turned off.  It is on by default.  You can probably get a sighted person to turn it on and, if you find that is the problem, I would suggest you write to the Tor developers about it. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 8:01 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Tor browser

Hi all,
Just yesterday, Tor browser was updated to 8.0 and after the upgrade,
NVDA became totally inaccessible with the browser.
I am not sure if this is the problem that Tor has upgraded the
underlying Firefox to Esr 60.2 and any possible fix for this at this moment?

Thanks.





[Internet Security] PSA: Multiple Vulnerabilities Present In Firefox 61

Jackie
 

Given the discussion about updating Firefox on this list, I thought
I'd send this. It'd be a good idea to update asap.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Wordfence <list@wordfence.com>
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2018 00:34:49 +0000
Subject: [Internet Security] PSA: Multiple Vulnerabilities Present In Firefox 61
To: abletec@gmail.com

Multiple security issues, including some of high and critical
severity, have been patched in the latest version of Mozilla Firefox.

In an advisory published yesterday, Mozilla disclosed the presence of
nine security flaws in Firefox 61 which have been patched in the
latest release of the browser. Some of the bugs are severe, but at
this time do not appear to be receiving attacks in the wild. In
today's post (https://www.wordfence.com/blog/2018/09/psa-multiple-vulnerabilities-present-in-firefox-61/?utm_source=list&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=090618&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-9n07rIMSt61Wa89UOUia3GNTf7Orc4WwjlDNYRZj3q8kAe4XL_IwQ5LYNplCxEpQtlNAxz1KuUqdxdjSektR6ahehYPw&_hsmi=65746406
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NVDA and Tor browser

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Hi all,
Just yesterday, Tor browser was updated to 8.0 and after the upgrade, NVDA became totally inaccessible with the browser.
I am not sure if this is the problem that Tor has upgraded the underlying Firefox to Esr 60.2 and any possible fix for this at this moment?

Thanks.


Re: my OCR not working issue

Quentin Christensen
 

I'm not sure what this was in reply to either.  I get queries on OCR from time to time, but it's generally a matter of teaching the user the steps.  If there is a problem with it, we'd like to know as well :)

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 12:25 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
Do you know who was replying to the original thread? Was there a githubissue raised?
I do not recall the conversation and I do try to read a little of each. Might be an idea to quote part of the old discussion.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Casey" <cwollner@...>
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Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 2:51 PM
Subject: [nvda] my OCR not working issue


Hi just checking in with you to find out if development got back to your yet?

On the two folders you pass on to them that I sent you as to why my OCR future isn't working.

I hope they find out something soon cause if it is A future that people need to use it would be nice if it worked reliably.

So thank you for working with me on this and please let me know when you find something out.



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FireFox Issues Discussion

David Russell
 

Hello Group,

OK, I have learned a couple things since posting eight or so hours ago.

- I have FF 52. I now get one of those Do you want to allow FireFox to
install .... when going into use Mozilla FireFox, tab to the no answer
and it allows me to conduct business as usual. I can live with that.

- I also saw Davy's notice about what the update concerns, but am
reluctant to accept it because of what occurred before and was
generally described in previous posts.
- I was able to do my work and other ordinary routine today without
too much hassle.
- I have three versions of NVDA on my computer, but not sure how to
tell which is the latest working one. I use a desktop not a laptop
computer.
- I set Security Essentials to do a full scan and spyware check during
my breakfast time Friday and the computer does not have to be on for
that to occur.
Thus for now, going to leave things as they are until a better doable
resolution comes along. I have some major projects forthcoming, and
cannot afford to have my computer disabled.

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Re: Problems using NVDA with a Java application

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I thought he meant that in Jaws the area is separate but in his example its an interaction between one area and another. I cannot visualise this in my brain. Also one needs to point out that nobody can attach screenshots on this likes and as the developers are blind a ticket on github and some log fragments to show what is going on and a description of what should go on would probably be the best approach here. Its very difficult for us as blind people who have never seen the program, to visualise the needed responses of nvda, against what is actually happening. I would however say that if the program is only useable with a mouse and is visual, then some work around using hot keys inside the application would seem to be the only way forward. java Access bridge can only go so far.
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From: "Travis Siegel" <tsiegel@softcon.com>
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Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems using NVDA with a Java application


I've never tried this software, but why is this a problem? If something
changes, the screen reader is supposed to let the user know it changed.
NVDA is doing exactly what it's supposed to do, where's the problem?


On 9/6/2018 6:38 AM, Radu Coravu wrote:
Hi,

I'm a developer working to provide better accessibility in a Java-based application called Oxygen XML Editor.
One of our end users uses our application with JAWS but he'd rather use it with NVDA.
So I started to use our application with NVDA, I have to say it looks like a better alternative, I even like the voice better.
There's one problem, our application has side views (see the attached screenshot) and whenever I move the cursor in the text content the "Outline" side view selects the appropriate node structure in its internal tree. We do that without giving explicit focus to the Outline view, but NVDA still reads the changes made in the Outline view whenever I move the cursor in the main text area.

Is there a setting in NVDA to prohibit it to announce changes in application components which are not keyboard focused?

I also reproduced the problem with a small Java application:

public static void main(String[] args) {
JFrame fr = new JFrame("AAA");
fr.setSize(500, 500);
JPanel panel = new JPanel(new GridBagLayout());
GridBagConstraints c = new GridBagConstraints();
c.gridy = 0;
c.gridx = 0;
JTree tree = new JTree();
JTextArea jt = new JTextArea("SOME\na\nb\nctext");
jt.addCaretListener(new CaretListener() {
@Override
public void caretUpdate(CaretEvent e) {
tree.setSelectionRow(e.getDot() % 4);
}
});
panel.add(jt, c);
c.gridy++;
panel.add(tree, c);

fr.getContentPane().add(panel, BorderLayout.CENTER);
fr.setVisible(true);
}
moving the caret in the text area also moves the selection in the tree under it and sometimes NVDA reads the selection in the tree although the focus is always in the text area.

Regards,
Radu

Radu Coravu
<oXygen/> XML Editor
http://www.oxygenxml.com




JAWS paid webinars now free.

 

Even if you use NVDA some of these same techniques can be applied to NVDA as well. I get this list in daily summary mode so someone may have posted this already but FS just released a boat load of their paid training webinars for free. The direct link is below.


https://www.freedomscientific.com/Services/TrainingAndCertification/FreeWebinars


Re: NVDA and FireFox Issues Partially Resolved

Lino Morales
 

You didn’t have to go through all that David. All you had to do was press alt plus T for tools then O for options. The first tab your on is the general tab. You’ll find the option that you needed their.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of David Russell <david.sonofhashem@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 7:14:27 AM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and FireFox Issues Partially Resolved
 
Hello NVDA Group,

With the aid of my wife, we did a system restore, and I set the
updates in FireFox advance settings to off and be asked when they want
to be installed.
The first occurrence of this update, or whatever it is, occurred mid
morning, September 5, and all I heard was a beep tone and info that
FireFox was updating. Of course, unbeknownst to me, my settings were
then different. I was at dictionary.com trying to sign up for their
daily email.

I have three versions of NVDA on my Windows 7 computer. When I
activate the check for updates function as someone advised here
recently, it does not work.
I either have Firefox 60 or 62, not sure. This update is said to be
critical and I said, Ask later. It throws too much off in terms of
basic keyboard functions if accepted. Backspacing goes silent,
auto-signature cannot be read, etc. I don't need the hassle. Thanks.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...




Re: Problems using NVDA with a Java application

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

I've never tried this software, but why is this a problem? If something changes, the screen reader is supposed to let the user know it changed.  NVDA is doing exactly what it's supposed to do, where's the problem?

On 9/6/2018 6:38 AM, Radu Coravu wrote:
Hi,

I'm a developer working to provide better accessibility in a Java-based application called Oxygen XML Editor.
One of our end users uses our application with JAWS but he'd rather use it with NVDA.
So I started to use our application with NVDA, I have to say it looks like a better alternative, I even like the voice better.
There's one problem, our application has side views (see the attached screenshot) and whenever I move the cursor in the text content the "Outline" side view selects the appropriate node structure in its internal tree. We do that without giving explicit focus to the Outline view, but NVDA still reads the changes made in the Outline view whenever I move the cursor in the main text area.

Is there a setting in NVDA to prohibit it to announce changes in application components which are not keyboard focused?

I also reproduced the problem with a small Java application:

  public static void main(String[] args) {
    JFrame fr = new JFrame("AAA");
    fr.setSize(500, 500);
    JPanel panel = new JPanel(new GridBagLayout());
    GridBagConstraints c = new GridBagConstraints();
    c.gridy = 0;
    c.gridx = 0;
    JTree tree = new JTree();
    JTextArea jt = new JTextArea("SOME\na\nb\nctext");
    jt.addCaretListener(new CaretListener() {
      @Override
      public void caretUpdate(CaretEvent e) {
        tree.setSelectionRow(e.getDot() % 4);
      }
    });
    panel.add(jt, c);
    c.gridy++;
    panel.add(tree, c);

    fr.getContentPane().add(panel, BorderLayout.CENTER);
    fr.setVisible(true);
  }
moving the caret in the text area also moves the selection in the tree under it and sometimes NVDA reads the selection in the tree although the focus is always in the text area.

Regards,
Radu

Radu Coravu
<oXygen/> XML Editor
http://www.oxygenxml.com



Problems using NVDA with a Java application

Radu Coravu <radu_coravu@...>
 

Hi,

I'm a developer working to provide better accessibility in a Java-based application called Oxygen XML Editor.
One of our end users uses our application with JAWS but he'd rather use it with NVDA.
So I started to use our application with NVDA, I have to say it looks like a better alternative, I even like the voice better.
There's one problem, our application has side views (see the attached screenshot) and whenever I move the cursor in the text content the "Outline" side view selects the appropriate node structure in its internal tree. We do that without giving explicit focus to the Outline view, but NVDA still reads the changes made in the Outline view whenever I move the cursor in the main text area.

Is there a setting in NVDA to prohibit it to announce changes in application components which are not keyboard focused?

I also reproduced the problem with a small Java application:

public static void main(String[] args) {
JFrame fr = new JFrame("AAA");
fr.setSize(500, 500);
JPanel panel = new JPanel(new GridBagLayout());
GridBagConstraints c = new GridBagConstraints();
c.gridy = 0;
c.gridx = 0;
JTree tree = new JTree();
JTextArea jt = new JTextArea("SOME\na\nb\nctext");
jt.addCaretListener(new CaretListener() {
@Override
public void caretUpdate(CaretEvent e) {
tree.setSelectionRow(e.getDot() % 4);
}
});
panel.add(jt, c);
c.gridy++;
panel.add(tree, c);

fr.getContentPane().add(panel, BorderLayout.CENTER);
fr.setVisible(true);
}
moving the caret in the text area also moves the selection in the tree under it and sometimes NVDA reads the selection in the tree although the focus is always in the text area.

Regards,
Radu

Radu Coravu
<oXygen/> XML Editor
http://www.oxygenxml.com


Re: weird mozilla firefox update

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I use waterfox. It works great for me but I've used other browsers when I needed to for some situations.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, September 6, 2018 5:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] weird mozilla firefox update

yup
i think i might switch to crome, what u all think

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 4:03 PM
Subject: [nvda] weird mozilla firefox update


Hi.

well, there was an update aparently we are up to firefox 62x.





OT: mailing list for accessibility and HAM radio equipment?

Brian Tew
 

blind-hams@groups.io

They can tell you if any such list exists.


Re: weird mozilla firefox update

Ervin, Glenn
 

No one browser is the solution.
It has come to us needing to use multiple browsers to access different pages.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2018 7:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] weird mozilla firefox update

yup
i think i might switch to crome, what u all think

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 4:03 PM
Subject: [nvda] weird mozilla firefox update


Hi.

well, there was an update aparently we are up to firefox 62x.





Re: Options in Firefox 62

Giles Turnbull
 

thanks, Chris. I'm using Win10 and know where my Firefox user settings are so I'll give that a go :)