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Re: Say all

Tyler Spivey
 

When you start a say all, NVDA sends the first chunk of text to your
synthesizer, including an index mark. Your synth needs to send that
back, so NVDA can move the cursor, send the next block of text and
repeat the process.

If something is interfering with this process, either a buggy synth,
synth driver or addon, then say all will stop working properly.

There's an easy test that might tell us. Hit say line twice to spell the
current line. If you only hear the first character, then it's your indexing.

On 10/18/2018 9:39 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't see what the synthesizer would have to do with the problem. 
I've seen the same thing happen once in awhile.  the cursor doesn't move
down as text is read and after a little while, reading stops.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Tyler Spivey <mailto:tspivey@pcdesk.net>
*Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:02 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Say all

This is most likely a problem with your synthesizer. Try another one.
On 10/18/2018 3:52 PM, Vlad Dragomir wrote:
Dear fellow users,

I hope someone will be able to tell me what I am doing wrong here.

I have a big .txt file, and I thought I would just sit back and ask NVDA
to read it to me by pressing the usual command, insert+down arrow.
Unfortunately after two or three paragraphs, the reading stops, and the
cursor is still at the beginning of the file. If I go down with the
arrow keys and find the place where it stopped reading, it does
continue, but again only for about a minute, and it stops again. Once
more, the cursor is where I left it.

Isn't it supposed to read the document until the end? Or at least until
we stop it? I tried Notepad, QRead, even Notepad++. The behaviour is the
same, so I presume I haven't configured NVDA correctly, but I can't
guess which setting is to be modified.

Thank you very much for enlightening me on this. I'd love to be able to
enjoy this book without having to go down line by line.

Warm regards,

vlad.





Re: Say all

Gene
 

There is another way you may be able to listen to the file even if other suggestions don't work.  Use the command numpad plus.  There are three keys on the last up and down column of the numpad.  the top one is a regular size key.  The second one is a long key and the third is another long key.  You want the second key, the first long one from the top rightmost column of the numpad.  At the beginning of the file, press that key.  Reading should start at the beginning and continue.  If you want or need to stop, pay careful attention to where you are stopping.  Remember a number of words in their correct order.  Write them down if you aren't sure you will remember them.  You will have to find those words, using the Notepad search command control f.  I am not explaining all you need to know to use the search.  If you listen to the file in this way, the review position will change but it appears it is not exactly where you stopped reading.  If you move to the exact position where you stop in terms of where the actual cursor is, you can press the key you pressed before and reading will start from where you left off.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:38 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all

The numpad 2 key is for read current character when used by itself.  When used with numpad insert It moves you into a navigator object inside of the one you are in.  for example, if you are in an object that says Wordpad window but you aren't in the actual window, that command will move the navigator review into the window.  these are NVDA commands.  They aren't related to the problem being discussed.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all

This can also happen pretty much exactly like this if you use the numpad 2 key instead of the actual down arrow key?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2018-10-19 6:39 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't see what the synthesizer would have to do with the problem.  I've seen the same thing happen once in awhile.  the cursor doesn't move down as text is read and after a little while, reading stops.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all

This is most likely a problem with your synthesizer. Try another one.
On 10/18/2018 3:52 PM, Vlad Dragomir wrote:
> Dear fellow users,
>
> I hope someone will be able to tell me what I am doing wrong here.
>
> I have a big .txt file, and I thought I would just sit back and ask NVDA
> to read it to me by pressing the usual command, insert+down arrow.
> Unfortunately after two or three paragraphs, the reading stops, and the
> cursor is still at the beginning of the file. If I go down with the
> arrow keys and find the place where it stopped reading, it does
> continue, but again only for about a minute, and it stops again. Once
> more, the cursor is where I left it.
>
> Isn't it supposed to read the document until the end? Or at least until
> we stop it? I tried Notepad, QRead, even Notepad++. The behaviour is the
> same, so I presume I haven't configured NVDA correctly, but I can't
> guess which setting is to be modified.
>
> Thank you very much for enlightening me on this. I'd love to be able to
> enjoy this book without having to go down line by line.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> vlad.
>
>
>




Re: Say all

Gene
 

The numpad 2 key is for read current character when used by itself.  When used with numpad insert It moves you into a navigator object inside of the one you are in.  for example, if you are in an object that says Wordpad window but you aren't in the actual window, that command will move the navigator review into the window.  these are NVDA commands.  They aren't related to the problem being discussed.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 1:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all

This can also happen pretty much exactly like this if you use the numpad 2 key instead of the actual down arrow key?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2018-10-19 6:39 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't see what the synthesizer would have to do with the problem.  I've seen the same thing happen once in awhile.  the cursor doesn't move down as text is read and after a little while, reading stops.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all

This is most likely a problem with your synthesizer. Try another one.
On 10/18/2018 3:52 PM, Vlad Dragomir wrote:
> Dear fellow users,
>
> I hope someone will be able to tell me what I am doing wrong here.
>
> I have a big .txt file, and I thought I would just sit back and ask NVDA
> to read it to me by pressing the usual command, insert+down arrow.
> Unfortunately after two or three paragraphs, the reading stops, and the
> cursor is still at the beginning of the file. If I go down with the
> arrow keys and find the place where it stopped reading, it does
> continue, but again only for about a minute, and it stops again. Once
> more, the cursor is where I left it.
>
> Isn't it supposed to read the document until the end? Or at least until
> we stop it? I tried Notepad, QRead, even Notepad++. The behaviour is the
> same, so I presume I haven't configured NVDA correctly, but I can't
> guess which setting is to be modified.
>
> Thank you very much for enlightening me on this. I'd love to be able to
> enjoy this book without having to go down line by line.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> vlad.
>
>
>




Re: Say all

Jacob Kruger
 

This can also happen pretty much exactly like this if you use the numpad 2 key instead of the actual down arrow key?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018-10-19 6:39 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't see what the synthesizer would have to do with the problem.  I've seen the same thing happen once in awhile.  the cursor doesn't move down as text is read and after a little while, reading stops.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all

This is most likely a problem with your synthesizer. Try another one.
On 10/18/2018 3:52 PM, Vlad Dragomir wrote:
> Dear fellow users,
>
> I hope someone will be able to tell me what I am doing wrong here.
>
> I have a big .txt file, and I thought I would just sit back and ask NVDA
> to read it to me by pressing the usual command, insert+down arrow.
> Unfortunately after two or three paragraphs, the reading stops, and the
> cursor is still at the beginning of the file. If I go down with the
> arrow keys and find the place where it stopped reading, it does
> continue, but again only for about a minute, and it stops again. Once
> more, the cursor is where I left it.
>
> Isn't it supposed to read the document until the end? Or at least until
> we stop it? I tried Notepad, QRead, even Notepad++. The behaviour is the
> same, so I presume I haven't configured NVDA correctly, but I can't
> guess which setting is to be modified.
>
> Thank you very much for enlightening me on this. I'd love to be able to
> enjoy this book without having to go down line by line.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> vlad.
>
>
>




Re: Abby fine reader 12

 

To be honest we can't support cracked software.

Compaired to others, fine reader is only about 200-300 australian dollars for standard.

Its why I got it and still have it.

But what if you want it for free.

If you can find it some older printers had sprint fine reader.

Its a bit limited, v6 was what I used for ages, there is also a v8, those are quite old and you will have limited features.

Now failing that, you can get omnipage for cheap to.

Sadly, unless you have dragon or another nuance product chances are you won't get this but if you do, sometimes you can get deals from 20-50%.

To get them you need to check for updates on your software.

Inside the updater from time to time you will get offers for things with deals in, I never had the accounts for the software it was my brother's but there may be other ways to get it to.

If you are able to legally buy from ebay an old version of say omnipage for well as little as you can, you may be able to update it for a reduced price b ut don't quote me on this.

On 10/19/2018 6:02 PM, Gene wrote:
the discussion wasn't about cracked synthesizers. It was about a cracked version of Fine Reader.

And what problems are you referring to regarding the paid Eloquence? The SAPI version runs well. There are minor problems regarding the licensing working properly but I have heard nothing other than that these are minor problems, are easily dealt with, and that the company either has or will, release an improved licensing system that doesn't have the issues people have complained about. The add-on version of Eloquence, the legal add-on, which is bundled with another synthesizer, has bad artifacts in the Eloquence speech but it isn't SAPI 5, which is what you said you want.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Abby fine reader 12


To be honest, with the reports about the legal version of that synth
having quality issues I am in 2 minds about it.

If I had to use it, the crack is the way I would go.

Fortunately I don't care about that one.

Sadly its also my brick wall I really want some really good sapi synths
especially since while yes someone did give me once the old scansoft
jaws cd, and yes while thats fine, its not 64 bit and win10 is a bit
finiky with that.

The only synth package that would be good enough is vocaliser by code
factory, which is 115 bucks, cf's licencing scheme with activations,
updates and stuff has been a bit weird though it may have been fixed.

I have looked at other manufacturers.

And while I could buy something for nvda only, espeak is fine for what I
need for day to day use.

Day to day use is email, games that don't need real speech, and a few
other things.

Obviously my e book reader, daisy book reader and games and programs
that use it I would rather not have a bit of robotic crap like espeak is.

On the other side, for day to day tasks, I don't care for the
performance the high quality stuff takes to load in and I don't right
now have the most updated hardware, actually scratch that.

I have a borderline crappy gen3 piece of junk from 2010.

I would have replaced it by now but with the intel debakle and the fact
that I have heard that some stuff just doesn't work as expected and the
fact things continue for now to run, I havn't really bothered but I will
have to soon.

All that asside, to buy any package other than the code factory stuff, I
am looking upwards of 200 + maybe 300 for the acapella stuff.

The rest, well if they are in packages not all of them are, I'd like all
voices for a given language, if I had 500-700 bucks I could buy a good
set of synths.

I do have that cash but its a huge chunk of cash for a single speech engine.

I want sapi and not all synths even those from nextup.com are like that.

Right now this gen3 works with win7 but when I upgrade to 10, if the ms
stuff doesn't work as I like it I am going to have to buy something.

I am uncertain about the tiflo stuff if its updated, its older
vocaliser, but maybe that will be fine.

Then again, old and crappy or old and steady may not be the best
especially with the way things seem to be going with win10 releases.



On 10/19/2018 5:14 PM, Jackie wrote:
I rather suspected. That may very well be the problem. That is typical
behavior when a program is not legally purchased. & because that is
the case, I suspect the list moderators, if they're anything like me
on my lists, won't be any too happy about requests for help under
those circumstances. That's pure speculation on my part, of course,
but somehow I don't think I'm too far off the mark, because asking for
help w/illegally obtained software tends to put list owners &
administrators in a very tenuous position.

On 10/18/18, farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm using crack. I have reinstalled it. Problem didn't solve.

On Fri, 19 Oct 2018, 2:16 am Gene, <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

You may be able to correct the problem but do you care about saving
formatting? You can use control a to select all, copy it to the
clipboard,
then paste it into a word processor or Notepad. You can then save the
pasted document. You can use Notepad if you just want a text file and
you
don't care about losing formatting. If you save it as a word processor
document, I don't know if you will lose formatting or if it will change.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:26 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Abby fine reader 12

I'm using abby fine reader 12. I'm not able to save file. If I press ctrl
+ s, nothing happens. When I attempt to close abby fine reader, it asks
me
I want to save or not. After pressing yes and doing everything when I
press
enter on save, it shows internal error. How to fix it?




Re: determining the color of a text in Excel with NVDA

Pranav Lal
 

Hi all,

Can someone share a sample sheet with this kind of formatting?

Pranav


Re: Abby fine reader 12

Gene
 

the discussion wasn't about cracked synthesizers.  It was about a cracked version of Fine Reader. 
 
And what problems are you referring to regarding the paid Eloquence?  The SAPI version runs well.  There are minor problems regarding the licensing working properly but I have heard nothing other than that these are minor problems, are easily dealt with, and that the company either has or will, release an improved licensing system that doesn't have the issues people have complained about.  The add-on version of Eloquence, the legal add-on, which is bundled with another synthesizer, has bad artifacts in the Eloquence speech but it isn't SAPI 5, which is what you said you want.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Abby fine reader 12

To be honest, with the reports about the legal version of that synth
having quality issues I am in 2 minds about it.

If I had to use it, the crack is the way I would go.

Fortunately I don't care about that one.

Sadly its also my brick wall I really want some really good sapi synths
especially since while yes someone did give me once the old scansoft
jaws cd, and yes while thats fine, its not 64 bit and win10 is a bit
finiky with that.

The only synth package that would be good enough is vocaliser by code
factory, which is 115 bucks, cf's licencing scheme with activations,
updates and stuff has been a bit weird though it may have been fixed.

I have looked at other manufacturers.

And while I could buy something for nvda only, espeak is fine for what I
need for day to day use.

Day to day use is email, games that don't need real speech, and a few
other things.

Obviously my e book reader, daisy book reader and games and programs
that use it I would rather not have a bit of robotic crap like espeak is.

On the other side, for day to day tasks, I don't care for the
performance the high quality stuff takes to load in and I don't right
now have the most updated hardware, actually scratch that.

I have a borderline crappy gen3 piece of junk from 2010.

I would have replaced it by now but with the intel debakle and the fact
that I have heard that some stuff just doesn't work as expected and the
fact things continue for now to run, I havn't really bothered but I will
have to soon.

All that asside, to buy any package other than the code factory stuff, I
am looking upwards of 200 + maybe 300 for the acapella stuff.

The rest, well if they are in packages not all of them are, I'd like all
voices for a given language, if I had 500-700 bucks I could buy a good
set of synths.

I do have that cash but its a huge chunk of cash for a single speech engine.

I want sapi and not all synths even those from nextup.com are like that.

Right now this gen3 works with win7 but when I upgrade to 10, if the ms
stuff doesn't work as I like it I am going to have to buy something.

I am uncertain about the tiflo stuff if its updated, its older
vocaliser, but maybe that will be fine.

Then again, old and crappy or old and steady may not be the best
especially with the way things seem to be going with win10 releases.



On 10/19/2018 5:14 PM, Jackie wrote:
> I rather suspected. That may very well be the problem. That is typical
> behavior when a program is not legally purchased. & because that is
> the case, I suspect the list moderators, if they're anything like me
> on my lists, won't be any too happy about requests for help under
> those circumstances. That's pure speculation on my part, of course,
> but somehow I don't think I'm too far off the mark, because asking for
> help w/illegally obtained software tends to put list owners &
> administrators in a very tenuous position.
>
> On 10/18/18, farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@...> wrote:
>> I'm using crack. I have reinstalled it. Problem didn't solve.
>>
>> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018, 2:16 am Gene, <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>
>>> You may be able to correct the problem but do you care about saving
>>> formatting?  You can use control a to select all, copy it to the
>>> clipboard,
>>> then paste it into a word processor or Notepad.  You can then save the
>>> pasted document.  You can use Notepad if you just want a text file and
>>> you
>>> don't care about losing formatting.  If you save it as a word processor
>>> document, I don't know if you will lose formatting or if it will change.
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@...>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:26 PM
>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> *Subject:* [nvda] Abby fine reader 12
>>>
>>> I'm using abby fine reader 12. I'm not able to save file. If I press ctrl
>>> + s, nothing happens. When I attempt to close abby fine reader, it asks
>>> me
>>> I want to save or not. After pressing yes and doing everything when I
>>> press
>>> enter on save, it shows internal error. How to fix it?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>



Re: Abby fine reader 12

 

Well lets not go down this track eh?

I have actually had this with an isp and my dad had the same thing with a camera maker we had issues with some devices.

They tried to say because we didn't have the right information they couldn't support things.

We managed to get the legal stuff and then they said there wasn't anything they could do.

I have had previders say we didn't have their legal software because we got it from another perfectly legal source just not their high priced one.

After paying for that, we had to buy another updated something that cost tripple the price.

We simply switched.

I wish that prices for some of this stuff was a bit lower for multivoice packages for things.

On 10/19/2018 5:41 PM, Gene wrote:
It isn't permitted to support illegal software on the list.

Gene, Moderator
----- Original Message -----

From: Jackie
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Abby fine reader 12


I rather suspected. That may very well be the problem. That is typical
behavior when a program is not legally purchased. & because that is
the case, I suspect the list moderators, if they're anything like me
on my lists, won't be any too happy about requests for help under
those circumstances. That's pure speculation on my part, of course,
but somehow I don't think I'm too far off the mark, because asking for
help w/illegally obtained software tends to put list owners &
administrators in a very tenuous position.

On 10/18/18, farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm using crack. I have reinstalled it. Problem didn't solve.

On Fri, 19 Oct 2018, 2:16 am Gene, <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

You may be able to correct the problem but do you care about saving
formatting? You can use control a to select all, copy it to the
clipboard,
then paste it into a word processor or Notepad. You can then save the
pasted document. You can use Notepad if you just want a text file and
you
don't care about losing formatting. If you save it as a word processor
document, I don't know if you will lose formatting or if it will change.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:26 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Abby fine reader 12

I'm using abby fine reader 12. I'm not able to save file. If I press ctrl
+ s, nothing happens. When I attempt to close abby fine reader, it asks
me
I want to save or not. After pressing yes and doing everything when I
press
enter on save, it shows internal error. How to fix it?



Re: Abby fine reader 12

 

To be honest, with the reports about the legal version of that synth having quality issues I am in 2 minds about it.

If I had to use it, the crack is the way I would go.

Fortunately I don't care about that one.

Sadly its also my brick wall I really want some really good sapi synths especially since while yes someone did give me once the old scansoft jaws cd, and yes while thats fine, its not 64 bit and win10 is a bit finiky with that.

The only synth package that would be good enough is vocaliser by code factory, which is 115 bucks, cf's licencing scheme with activations, updates and stuff has been a bit weird though it may have been fixed.

I have looked at other manufacturers.

And while I could buy something for nvda only, espeak is fine for what I need for day to day use.

Day to day use is email, games that don't need real speech, and a few other things.

Obviously my e book reader, daisy book reader and games and programs that use it I would rather not have a bit of robotic crap like espeak is.

On the other side, for day to day tasks, I don't care for the performance the high quality stuff takes to load in and I don't right now have the most updated hardware, actually scratch that.

I have a borderline crappy gen3 piece of junk from 2010.

I would have replaced it by now but with the intel debakle and the fact that I have heard that some stuff just doesn't work as expected and the fact things continue for now to run, I havn't really bothered but I will have to soon.

All that asside, to buy any package other than the code factory stuff, I am looking upwards of 200 + maybe 300 for the acapella stuff.

The rest, well if they are in packages not all of them are, I'd like all voices for a given language, if I had 500-700 bucks I could buy a good set of synths.

I do have that cash but its a huge chunk of cash for a single speech engine.

I want sapi and not all synths even those from nextup.com are like that.

Right now this gen3 works with win7 but when I upgrade to 10, if the ms stuff doesn't work as I like it I am going to have to buy something.

I am uncertain about the tiflo stuff if its updated, its older vocaliser, but maybe that will be fine.

Then again, old and crappy or old and steady may not be the best especially with the way things seem to be going with win10 releases.

On 10/19/2018 5:14 PM, Jackie wrote:
I rather suspected. That may very well be the problem. That is typical
behavior when a program is not legally purchased. & because that is
the case, I suspect the list moderators, if they're anything like me
on my lists, won't be any too happy about requests for help under
those circumstances. That's pure speculation on my part, of course,
but somehow I don't think I'm too far off the mark, because asking for
help w/illegally obtained software tends to put list owners &
administrators in a very tenuous position.

On 10/18/18, farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm using crack. I have reinstalled it. Problem didn't solve.

On Fri, 19 Oct 2018, 2:16 am Gene, <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

You may be able to correct the problem but do you care about saving
formatting? You can use control a to select all, copy it to the
clipboard,
then paste it into a word processor or Notepad. You can then save the
pasted document. You can use Notepad if you just want a text file and
you
don't care about losing formatting. If you save it as a word processor
document, I don't know if you will lose formatting or if it will change.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:26 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Abby fine reader 12

I'm using abby fine reader 12. I'm not able to save file. If I press ctrl
+ s, nothing happens. When I attempt to close abby fine reader, it asks
me
I want to save or not. After pressing yes and doing everything when I
press
enter on save, it shows internal error. How to fix it?



Re: Abby fine reader 12

Gene
 

It isn't permitted to support illegal software on the list. 
 
Gene, Moderator

----- Original Message -----
From: Jackie
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Abby fine reader 12

I rather suspected. That may very well be the problem. That is typical
behavior when a program is not legally purchased. & because that is
the case, I suspect the list moderators, if they're anything like me
on my lists, won't be any too happy about requests for help under
those circumstances. That's pure speculation on my part, of course,
but somehow I don't think I'm too far off the mark, because asking for
help w/illegally obtained software tends to put list owners &
administrators in a very tenuous position.

On 10/18/18, farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@...> wrote:
> I'm using crack. I have reinstalled it. Problem didn't solve.
>
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018, 2:16 am Gene, <gsasner@...> wrote:
>
>> You may be able to correct the problem but do you care about saving
>> formatting?  You can use control a to select all, copy it to the
>> clipboard,
>> then paste it into a word processor or Notepad.  You can then save the
>> pasted document.  You can use Notepad if you just want a text file and
>> you
>> don't care about losing formatting.  If you save it as a word processor
>> document, I don't know if you will lose formatting or if it will change.
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@...>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:26 PM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> *Subject:* [nvda] Abby fine reader 12
>>
>> I'm using abby fine reader 12. I'm not able to save file. If I press ctrl
>> + s, nothing happens. When I attempt to close abby fine reader, it asks
>> me
>> I want to save or not. After pressing yes and doing everything when I
>> press
>> enter on save, it shows internal error. How to fix it?
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


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Re: Say all

Gene
 

I don't see what the synthesizer would have to do with the problem.  I've seen the same thing happen once in awhile.  the cursor doesn't move down as text is read and after a little while, reading stops.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all

This is most likely a problem with your synthesizer. Try another one.
On 10/18/2018 3:52 PM, Vlad Dragomir wrote:
> Dear fellow users,
>
> I hope someone will be able to tell me what I am doing wrong here.
>
> I have a big .txt file, and I thought I would just sit back and ask NVDA
> to read it to me by pressing the usual command, insert+down arrow.
> Unfortunately after two or three paragraphs, the reading stops, and the
> cursor is still at the beginning of the file. If I go down with the
> arrow keys and find the place where it stopped reading, it does
> continue, but again only for about a minute, and it stops again. Once
> more, the cursor is where I left it.
>
> Isn't it supposed to read the document until the end? Or at least until
> we stop it? I tried Notepad, QRead, even Notepad++. The behaviour is the
> same, so I presume I haven't configured NVDA correctly, but I can't
> guess which setting is to be modified.
>
> Thank you very much for enlightening me on this. I'd love to be able to
> enjoy this book without having to go down line by line.
>
> Warm regards,
>
> vlad.
>
>
>




Re: Abby fine reader 12

Jackie
 

I rather suspected. That may very well be the problem. That is typical
behavior when a program is not legally purchased. & because that is
the case, I suspect the list moderators, if they're anything like me
on my lists, won't be any too happy about requests for help under
those circumstances. That's pure speculation on my part, of course,
but somehow I don't think I'm too far off the mark, because asking for
help w/illegally obtained software tends to put list owners &
administrators in a very tenuous position.

On 10/18/18, farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm using crack. I have reinstalled it. Problem didn't solve.

On Fri, 19 Oct 2018, 2:16 am Gene, <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

You may be able to correct the problem but do you care about saving
formatting? You can use control a to select all, copy it to the
clipboard,
then paste it into a word processor or Notepad. You can then save the
pasted document. You can use Notepad if you just want a text file and
you
don't care about losing formatting. If you save it as a word processor
document, I don't know if you will lose formatting or if it will change.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:26 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] Abby fine reader 12

I'm using abby fine reader 12. I'm not able to save file. If I press ctrl
+ s, nothing happens. When I attempt to close abby fine reader, it asks
me
I want to save or not. After pressing yes and doing everything when I
press
enter on save, it shows internal error. How to fix it?



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Re: Say all

Tyler Spivey
 

This is most likely a problem with your synthesizer. Try another one.

On 10/18/2018 3:52 PM, Vlad Dragomir wrote:
Dear fellow users,

I hope someone will be able to tell me what I am doing wrong here.

I have a big .txt file, and I thought I would just sit back and ask NVDA
to read it to me by pressing the usual command, insert+down arrow.
Unfortunately after two or three paragraphs, the reading stops, and the
cursor is still at the beginning of the file. If I go down with the
arrow keys and find the place where it stopped reading, it does
continue, but again only for about a minute, and it stops again. Once
more, the cursor is where I left it.

Isn't it supposed to read the document until the end? Or at least until
we stop it? I tried Notepad, QRead, even Notepad++. The behaviour is the
same, so I presume I haven't configured NVDA correctly, but I can't
guess which setting is to be modified.

Thank you very much for enlightening me on this. I'd love to be able to
enjoy this book without having to go down line by line.

Warm regards,

vlad.



Re: Abby fine reader 12

farhan israk
 

I'm using crack. I have reinstalled it. Problem didn't solve.


On Fri, 19 Oct 2018, 2:16 am Gene, <gsasner@...> wrote:
You may be able to correct the problem but do you care about saving formatting?  You can use control a to select all, copy it to the clipboard, then paste it into a word processor or Notepad.  You can then save the pasted document.  You can use Notepad if you just want a text file and you don't care about losing formatting.  If you save it as a word processor document, I don't know if you will lose formatting or if it will change.  Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] Abby fine reader 12

I'm using abby fine reader 12. I'm not able to save file. If I press ctrl + s, nothing happens. When I attempt to close abby fine reader, it asks me I want to save or not. After pressing yes and doing everything when I press enter on save, it shows internal error. How to fix it?


Add-on Updater: October 18th snapshot, ready for more people via a stable version

 

Hi all,

 

Two big announcements about Add-on Updater (proof of concept):

 

Add-on Updater stable version is coming very soon. Originally, I planned to not release a stable version of this add-on due to proof of concept status and to focus on pull request. After listening to feedback coming from various channels (including some enthusiastic feedback), coupled with a need to provide more people with an add-on that can update their ad-on library to latest supported versions (along with gathering more feedback), I decided to prepare Add-on Updater for stable release.

 

A few things to note about this transition:

 

  • Add-on Updater entry will be added to add-ons website under stable add-ons section. The biggest change is that this add-on will be shown on the home page.
  • Even with stable designation, work on this add-on (and the corresponding NVDA pull request) is not complete yet.
  • For the time being, “proof of concept” tag will be present.
  • Folks are welcome to provide pull requests for this add-on, and if accepted and formatted for NVDA Core (screen reader pull request, with me doing the formatting), you’ll be given credit for your work.

 

Second, October 18th snapshot is on its way. Starting from this snapshot, if you happen to disable one or more add-ons, Add-on Updater won’t check for updates for disabled add-ons.

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Microsoft word question

Pranav Lal
 

Rui,
<snip As I said, the hotkey is NVDA+End.
PL] Many thanks. I checked the application specific hotkeys in the NVDA manual and was unable to find this hotkey. Where is it given?

Pranav


Re: Firefox 63 beta 64 and windows 7 64 not working again

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Brian , I am not commenting on you sorry for my misscommunication

Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io 於 18/10/2018 2:59 寫道:

Not sure what you are talking about. I'm just saying that nvda is not working on that version here. That is a fact, and I was as annoyed as you about the way the thread went, but it was to some extent relevant to nvda, but not to the issue at hand!
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William" <cwwong.pro@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 63 beta 64 and windows 7 64 not working again


Sorry, can all those unrelated nonsense discussion move to somewhere else?
I have problem following the core discussion here.

I here tested out Firefox beta 63 64bit on portableapps.com on my win 7 64 bit and everything seemed go fine.






Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io 於 16/10/2018 18:58 寫道:
Yes this is your opinion, but it does not really add to the conversation of, is the new version broken or not on windows 7. 62 works fine here but not in its 32 bit guise as that too fails to be accessible on web pages.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 63 beta 64 and windows 7 64 not working again


Reguardless of what they say, firefox is crap.

Simply that they deem accessibility could be a security risk and will slow things down is my main reason not to trust mozilla anymore.

The only reason I use thunderbird is that I don't need to access the addons interface which is flat out crap and inaccessible but I don't need it.

New firefox is crap and will always have a bad reputation in my books.

Waterfox 56 seems to adopt both classic and new tech, and as long as we users can get the scripts for it it will be good.

There are a few downsides to it though.

The first is because of firefox 60 and up we will not get any more new addons ever for it and will have to run older versions of addons for ever.

Depending on what those are it may not matter in most cases, noscript works as it always has, nav sounds, privacy badger, and https everywhere just work and its all I really give a damn about.

I'd like it in ccleaner but as I have set it to never remember my history at all well who knows.

Its also not secured as often or updated as often, trying to stay as close to the esr versions as it can.

Right now its still showing firefox 56.

The authors say that it will eventually have to change and its getting rewritten and also that there is an addon store coming.

The users are happy though and I suspect the dev is taking his sweet time about any real change and is in no hurry.

If you really want a secure as up to date program waterfox is probably not for you chrome is good, though they have their own issue.

If you can stomach firefox then its your best bet to continue I guess.

But if like me you just want the same old net to work, waterfox just does that.

No tracking etc.

Ofcause you loose things like extra shields by default, and a few other things like internal app updates, and autoupdates by mozilla updaters.

It does update itself so I don't think that matters.





On 10/16/2018 9:35 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Anyone tried Firefox 63 beta 64bit on windows 7?; I cannot get anything to read on the screens; it just says unknown.; Is this a bug in the Firefox beta?; If somebody could test other than myself then if it is; have a poke at Mozilla.; 62.03 seems to work fine here which is why I was concerned. I had to do a system restore in case the reason it fails is that its messed with the registry somehow.; Remember its windows 7 64. I am still keeping waterfox as default due to it having system sound capability. its about time Firefox built these in to their browser as well.; Brian


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Tables are not recognized on a computer but are on another

Cleverson Casarin Uliana
 

Hi all, in both my computer at home and at my workplace, I use NVDA 2018.3.2, and the Waterfox browser 64-bit. The only difference is that here at home I have Windows 10 and at my workplace it is Windows 7. There at my workplace, NVDA recognizes a bigger number of tables while browsing the web than it recognizes here at home. There are several places in some pages where I can't use the control+alt+arrows commands to navigate the tables when I am at home, because NVDA says I'm not at a table cell. Then when I go to the same page there at my workplace, it recognizes such tables normally. I have confirmed that I am using the same settings related to tables at the NVDA document formating section. Do you have an idea what's the explanation for this please?

Thanks,
Cleverson


Re: Say all

Gene
 

In my last message, I should have said that if Word Wrap is already checked, press escape twice to get back to the main window and then close the program if you wish.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all

What does it do with other text files?  I've seen something like this happen with this or that program at times but never as a general pattern in numerous programs.  There is no way to misconfigure this behavior.  It is a feature in NVDA and it can't be changed.  I'm not sure why you are having the problem. 
 
It may be that the text file is somehow not in proper form,  Try the following:
In Notepad, Open the menus.
Right arrow to format. 
Down arrow to Word Wrap. If you hear checked after word wrap is announced, there is nothing to do.  Press escape in that case to return to the main window and then close the program if you wish.  If you don't hear checked, press enter.  The menu will close and Word Wrap is now checked.  Now, open the file in Notepad and see if it reads properly.  While I don't think this will solve the problem, I can't think of any other possible solutions and this one might work.
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 5:52 PM
Subject: [nvda] Say all

Dear fellow users,

I hope someone will be able to tell me what I am doing wrong here.

I have a big .txt file, and I thought I would just sit back and ask NVDA
to read it to me by pressing the usual command, insert+down arrow.
Unfortunately after two or three paragraphs, the reading stops, and the
cursor is still at the beginning of the file. If I go down with the
arrow keys and find the place where it stopped reading, it does
continue, but again only for about a minute, and it stops again. Once
more, the cursor is where I left it.

Isn't it supposed to read the document until the end? Or at least until
we stop it? I tried Notepad, QRead, even Notepad++. The behaviour is the
same, so I presume I haven't configured NVDA correctly, but I can't
guess which setting is to be modified.

Thank you very much for enlightening me on this. I'd love to be able to
enjoy this book without having to go down line by line.

Warm regards,

vlad.



Re: Say all

Gene
 

What does it do with other text files?  I've seen something like this happen with this or that program at times but never as a general pattern in numerous programs.  There is no way to misconfigure this behavior.  It is a feature in NVDA and it can't be changed.  I'm not sure why you are having the problem. 
 
It may be that the text file is somehow not in proper form,  Try the following:
In Notepad, Open the menus.
Right arrow to format. 
Down arrow to Word Wrap. If you hear checked after word wrap is announced, there is nothing to do.  Press escape in that case to return to the main window and then close the program if you wish.  If you don't hear checked, press enter.  The menu will close and Word Wrap is now checked.  Now, open the file in Notepad and see if it reads properly.  While I don't think this will solve the problem, I can't think of any other possible solutions and this one might work.
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 5:52 PM
Subject: [nvda] Say all

Dear fellow users,

I hope someone will be able to tell me what I am doing wrong here.

I have a big .txt file, and I thought I would just sit back and ask NVDA
to read it to me by pressing the usual command, insert+down arrow.
Unfortunately after two or three paragraphs, the reading stops, and the
cursor is still at the beginning of the file. If I go down with the
arrow keys and find the place where it stopped reading, it does
continue, but again only for about a minute, and it stops again. Once
more, the cursor is where I left it.

Isn't it supposed to read the document until the end? Or at least until
we stop it? I tried Notepad, QRead, even Notepad++. The behaviour is the
same, so I presume I haven't configured NVDA correctly, but I can't
guess which setting is to be modified.

Thank you very much for enlightening me on this. I'd love to be able to
enjoy this book without having to go down line by line.

Warm regards,

vlad.