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Re: Password for certification Exam

Quentin Christensen
 

There was and I meant to reply, as we have just updated the questions.  I just wanted to confirm they were live, which I'll do and then post officially.


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There was another query about up to date info  in training material while
you were away, but I could not find it just now.
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----- Original Message -----
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 1:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Password for certification Exam


Hi Keith,

If you haven't purchased anything else, you can create a new account from:
https://www.nvaccess.org/my-account/

If you have purchased other things (eg training material), you will need to
recover your existing account in order to retrieve those (there is no
pre-requisite for the original certification exam, though ideally you'd
only want one account).

In the meantime, I will look into our system, just in case there is any
issue with sending out the password recovery email.

Regards

Quentin.

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> Hi. I am wanting to take the NVDA certification exam. When I click on it,
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> Does anyone have a suggestion for what I should do next? I tried going to
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Re: NVDA Snapshot types

Quentin Christensen
 

While I don't disagree with you, most of the errors and issues which have required additional RC's and stable releases, have been from issues which do not affect everyone, but for those they affect, they would manifest very quickly.  Which is why we get these reports almost immediately after releasing the new version.

I think then, that the issue is not so much the length of time of the beta cycle, but how do we get more people, on different systems, to try the betas earlier?



On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 7:24 PM Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Yes I have a portable running on Alpha, but I seem to recall that before the
renaming you also allowed beta snaps to be put up much earlier, as five
weeks sounds a short time for the great unwashed like myself to have enough
experience of a running everyday version to find the more obscure things. I
think the release record of the last version shows this to be true as there
had to be many more iterations of the RC and finally a couple of updates to
stable. If you look back when the beta length was longer you find fewer
versions after a stable was issued.
 In a way I think many programmers underestimate the time needed to fully
test increasingly complex code.
 I used to know a person whose first test of any software was to randomly do
stuff on the keyboard and you would be surprised how often such an
apparently random act would thro up a problem with the software crashing.



Just my opinion of 68 years on the planet.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Snapshot types


> Hi Brian,
>
> Apologies if you've asked this before and I missed it :)
>
> The new release process is that Alpha builds come out quite regularly,
> every few days or sometimes several in a day, like the old "next"
> snapshots
> did.
>
> The key point about Beta releases is: "
>
>   - Starting from 5 weeks before final release, tagged beta releases will
>   be published periodically, allowing the wider community to try out the
>   betas. At this stage code originally introduced through master will have
>   been tested for at least 2 weeks, thus the beta builds can be seen as
> beta
>   quality."
>
> So, if you are interested in testing the latest "bleeding edge" code which
> gets updated regularly, then you want the Alpha snapshots (with the usual
> caveat that while they usually work fine, they may not be completely
> stable
> or work in every situation - in which case please let us know, and also
> keep a stable build handy).
>
> If you want a more reliably stable experience but still want to test out
> new features before the masses, Beta should have you covered for that and
> you'll start to get those about 5 weeks before a new release is due (the
> last beta cycle was longer, being the first time we'd changed to that
> system).
>
> All the snapshots are available from the snapshots page at:
> https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/
>
> If you'd like to read the release process in full, you can find it here:
> https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/ReleaseProcess
>
> Kind regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 5:54 AM Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
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>> I know I asked a similar question before, but looking at the  email list
>> of
>> different snap releases I see alpha and beta, yet on the snapshot web
>> site
>> it seems only alpha have updated, the beta is showing  rc versions of the
>> last stable release. Am I missing something here, or are betas not
>> actually
>> on the site?
>>  Brian
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Re: PASTEL AND NVDA

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Something odd here as it told me it could not send it so i rewrote it and now the one it could not send has sent.
Ineed a lie down.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] PASTEL AND NVDA


Just thought you should know that for some odd reason, virginmedia in the UK
are putting this message into the spam bin.
It merely says seem me scorie=100.00 percent

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Re: PASTEL AND NVDA

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The post I'm replying to was copied only to my spam folder by virginmedia
servers in the UK It seemed to have more than one address in the to field
and both were the same but whether this was the reason who knows.
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Re: PASTEL AND NVDA

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Just thought you should know that for some odd reason, virginmedia in the UK
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It merely says seem me scorie=100.00 percent

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Re: NVDA key to be assignable to any key

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Not so sure they are the same. When using another device to control the machine its more like the remote add on situation I would imagine.
The question really is, what key could one use that is not important in any other setting if its hi jacked for the nvda key. Might be interesting to see if the Shark works and kind of see what they did if it does.

I'm thinking of some kind of double tap of a key with the other key you need or something like that.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@nvaccess.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA key to be assignable to any key


Hi Aman,

I don't have a comment on the validity of the issue at this stage (it seems
a reasonable question to ask at least), but having created an issue as you
have done is definitely the best way to have it addressed by those who can
comment on the technicalities of whether there are any barriers to
implementing it. Here in the group is also a good place to get comments
and other people's thoughts on it and have that discussion, so yes, I think
you've done all the right things.

Actually you mentioned an older issue - I haven't looked that one up, but
if it's the same, it's possible one will get closed as a duplicate of the
other (if that happens, subscribe to the other issue, and add any extra
comments there as well).

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 2:32 PM Aman Singer <aman.singer@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,



I’m not sure what the best method of proposing this is, I
have put the following up as an issue at



https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8836





And am also posting the below to the list. If there is a
better way to make suggestions, or if I ought not to post through one of
these methods, I would appreciate being corrected.



Allowing the NVDA key to be any key on the keyboard





I am using NVDA from iOS through a VNC application. I find
that this works fairly well except that the application will not properly
pass through the capslock or insert key as a modifier. I am, therefore,
unable to use the NVDA commands without another program being involved to
modify the keyboard. I have used autohotkey to map the right alt key to the
insert key. Sharpkeys and other registry-based keyboard mapping
applications don’t work. I would like the ability to have the NVDA key set
to any key on the keyboard that Windows can see. I have seen keyboards
with, for example, the ` key next to the space and there is always, of
course, one of the alt keys. Would this be wise and possible? I have
searched the issue archives but have only found one similar issue, issue
225, which has the same request but as a modification for the mac. That
issue, made in 2009, is still open but I’m not sure of its status. Given
that NVDA, unlike Jaws, will happily work with VNC input, this may be worth
doing as I have yet to see a VNC application which sends the capslock key
as a modifier properly.


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Re: keyboard

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I seem to remember that there were very valid reasons why trying to read just control and shift keys was not a good idea. For a start on their own, except windows ones, they only do stuff if they are combined with another, also I think that if you do intercept them then you get a stutter if you try to use a combination which is often more confusing. One of the biggest issues I get with people is that they seem unaware that the right hand key next to the space bar is in fact alt/control or that the right windows key has specific context sensitive uses, but can be still used if the laptop does not have the key by using shift with a function key. And do not get me started with the issue of laptops having the normal functions only available if you use an fn key as well.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@nvaccess.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 1:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard


NVDA+4 toggles speak command keys. That won't announce if you just press
SHIFT and let it go, but it will announce "CONTROL+S" if you press those
keys.

You can also access that option from the "Keyboard" settings
(NVDA+CONTROL+K to get there directly, or via the NVDA menu).

In order to practise the keyboard, you can also use NVDA's "Input help"
mode. Press NVDA+1 to turn Input help on. From then, you can press any
key or key combination and NVDA will announce what you have pressed
(including things like shift on its own) and what NVDA function it performs
(if it's an NVDA keystroke). The keys won't do anything however, so if you
press the WINDOWS key, NVDA will report it, but the Windows Start menu will
not open.

Press NVDA+1 to turn input help off again.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 10:57 AM Robert Doc Wright godfearer <
godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:

I am working with a NVDA newby. how does she set NVDA so that the control
and shift keys are spoken. she wants this because her keyboard is not
standard.


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Re: win 10 emoji's panel

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Is there an imogee for I never use Imogees?
Hides behind sofa to avoid rotten tomatoes.
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Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] win 10 emoji's panel


hi, i can tell you what to do.
1 press windows key plus point/dot.
2 now you can withe the arrow keys right and left along all emojis
with the tab key you can choose a category such as smiley faces and animals, people like pinococcus plants and food.
now choose an emoji, when found the right one, press enter.
the emoji will be placed where you are.
after that you can exit the emoji menu by pressing escape.
and all is done.
cheers
paul otter




Op 11-10-2018 om 23:58 schreef Don H:
Is there any tutorials regarding how to use the emoji's panel with NVDA?
Thanks



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Re: The windows 10 emoji panel

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Oh that is clever!
To be honest I'm in two minds about these characters as often even if they get read as what they are descriptively, the way people use them makes the resulting text a complete heap of rubbish in any case.


I tend not to use them myself in any kind of system and usually i send back a slightly sarcastic message about what was wrong with English.
grin.
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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 1:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] The windows 10 emoji panel


In the meantime, a quicker way to change synthesizers is NVDA+control+s.
Then either use the navigation keys or letter to jump to the desired
syntehsizer and enter.

I was going to suggest making a configuration profile for the emoji window,
but it disappears when you open the configuration profile window to create
one.

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 11:27 AM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi,
As I said, this will all change very soon, so stay tuned.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of ann
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 5:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] The windows 10 emoji panel

Man, I take back what I said about having to start narrator to read the
pane being annoying. Having to go in to NVDA menu, then preferences,, then
settings, then speech, then change synthesizer just to read the emojis and
then change it all back again is way way more steps to take.
It's easier just to start Narrator then turn Narrator off afterwords.


But thank you all for the info. The Microsoft voices do read them fine,
but sadly, I'm not using that as my main NVDA synth. I'm using Eloquence.


~Ann




Re: The windows 10 emoji panel
From: P. Otter
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 18:17:33 EDT
hello, your speech synthesizer is guilty of that.
the narrator already does not support the emoji!
nvda does.
if a good speech synthesizer is used.
the commercial speech synthesizers do not do it any, very striking.
the onecore voices and also espeak will say the emoji's correctly!
very very strange that the commercial speechsynthesizers don't do it
at all!
the free synthesizers like the onecore voices from microsoft and
espeak are exelent!
cheers
paul otter






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Re: The windows 10 emoji panel

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I would imagine this is a lot to do with the interface and logic. I do often moan at some synths also expanding abbreviations inappropriately, such as in UK post codes saying 2 New York instead of 2NY, or saying saint for St when in the UK it means Street.
There are many others, but I'd imagine the same kind of problem is at work here where the actual items spoken has to be programmed into the synth not the screenreader.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] The windows 10 emoji panel


hello, your speech synthesizer is guilty of that.
the narrator already does not support the emoji!
nvda does.
if a good speech synthesizer is used.
the commercial speech synthesizers do not do it any, very striking.
the onecore voices and also espeak will say the emoji's correctly!
very very strange that the commercial speechsynthesizers don't do it at all!
the free synthesizers like the onecore voices from microsoft and espeak are exelent!
cheers
paul otter



Op 11-10-2018 om 23:29 schreef ann:
Hi,


Is there an addon that will allow NVDA to read the emoji's in the windows emoji panel? All my NVDA says is the position in the list and how many items there are, but it does not read the character. Narrator reads them just fine, but it is a pain to have to switch to Narrator just to grab an emoji.


Thanks,

~Ann



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Re: Password for certification Exam

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There was another query about up to date info in training material while you were away, but I could not find it just now.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 1:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Password for certification Exam


Hi Keith,

If you haven't purchased anything else, you can create a new account from:
https://www.nvaccess.org/my-account/

If you have purchased other things (eg training material), you will need to
recover your existing account in order to retrieve those (there is no
pre-requisite for the original certification exam, though ideally you'd
only want one account).

In the meantime, I will look into our system, just in case there is any
issue with sending out the password recovery email.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 8:00 AM Keith Bundy <kbun@siteimprove.com> wrote:

Hi. I am wanting to take the NVDA certification exam. When I click on it,
I am taken to a login page.



I apparently have an account, but I have forgotten my password. I have
clicked on the reset password link at least three times and have never
gotten a password reset email. I have checked all spam folders.



Does anyone have a suggestion for what I should do next? I tried going to
the login page directly, as an old message on this group said you could
create an account from there. But I didn’t find that option.



Any suggestions will be sincerely appreciated.



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Re: NVDA Snapshot types

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Yes I have a portable running on Alpha, but I seem to recall that before the renaming you also allowed beta snaps to be put up much earlier, as five weeks sounds a short time for the great unwashed like myself to have enough experience of a running everyday version to find the more obscure things. I think the release record of the last version shows this to be true as there had to be many more iterations of the RC and finally a couple of updates to stable. If you look back when the beta length was longer you find fewer versions after a stable was issued.
In a way I think many programmers underestimate the time needed to fully test increasingly complex code.
I used to know a person whose first test of any software was to randomly do stuff on the keyboard and you would be surprised how often such an apparently random act would thro up a problem with the software crashing.



Just my opinion of 68 years on the planet.
Brian

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Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Snapshot types


Hi Brian,

Apologies if you've asked this before and I missed it :)

The new release process is that Alpha builds come out quite regularly,
every few days or sometimes several in a day, like the old "next" snapshots
did.

The key point about Beta releases is: "

- Starting from 5 weeks before final release, tagged beta releases will
be published periodically, allowing the wider community to try out the
betas. At this stage code originally introduced through master will have
been tested for at least 2 weeks, thus the beta builds can be seen as beta
quality."

So, if you are interested in testing the latest "bleeding edge" code which
gets updated regularly, then you want the Alpha snapshots (with the usual
caveat that while they usually work fine, they may not be completely stable
or work in every situation - in which case please let us know, and also
keep a stable build handy).

If you want a more reliably stable experience but still want to test out
new features before the masses, Beta should have you covered for that and
you'll start to get those about 5 weeks before a new release is due (the
last beta cycle was longer, being the first time we'd changed to that
system).

All the snapshots are available from the snapshots page at:
https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

If you'd like to read the release process in full, you can find it here:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/ReleaseProcess

Kind regards

Quentin.

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I know I asked a similar question before, but looking at the email list
of
different snap releases I see alpha and beta, yet on the snapshot web site
it seems only alpha have updated, the beta is showing rc versions of the
last stable release. Am I missing something here, or are betas not
actually
on the site?
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Re: The windows 10 emoji panel

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Use the SwitchSynth add-on. Then you can flip to another synth with one keystroke combination and back again without having to leave NVDA. I use the add-on and I have it set up to switch to various languages and synths.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2018/10/12 02:24 AM, ann wrote:
Man, I take back what I said about having to start narrator to read the pane being annoying. Having to go in to NVDA menu, then preferences,, then settings, then speech, then change synthesizer just to read the emojis and then change it all back again is way way more steps to take. It's easier just to start Narrator then turn Narrator off afterwords.


But thank you all for the info. The Microsoft voices do read them fine, but sadly, I'm not using that as my main NVDA synth. I'm using Eloquence.


~Ann




Re: The windows 10 emoji panel
From: P. Otter
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 18:17:33 EDT
hello, your speech synthesizer is guilty of that.
the narrator already does not support the emoji!
nvda does.
if a good speech synthesizer is used.
the commercial speech synthesizers do not do it any, very striking.
the onecore voices and also espeak will say the emoji's correctly!
very very strange that the commercial speechsynthesizers don't do it at all!
the free synthesizers like the onecore voices from microsoft and espeak are exelent!
cheers
paul otter


PASTEL AND NVDA

Heaven Botma <heaven@...>
 

Dear List

 

Does anyone work with Pastel to handle the finances?

 

If so, how accessible is it with NVDA?

 

The reason why I am asking, is that I know someone who is losing her sight and most of the companies in South Africa use Pastel for accounting, including her company.

 

Kind regards

 

 

Heaven Botma

Programme Co-ordinator | Program Koördineerder

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T 023 348 7616 F 086 415 6835

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Re: Speeding up one-core voices.

David Moore
 

Hey Rosemarie!

When you hear system, keep right arrowing until you hear the ease of access category and press enter!

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 6:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Speeding up one-core voices.

 

I just tried that and it didn't work. Where's the ease of access setting? The first thing I found was system instead of ease of access.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2018 10:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Speeding up one-core voices.

 

Hi all!

To speed up the One Core voices:

Press Windows+I to open the settings app.

Tab once, and go to the Ease of access category!

Then, go to speech and press enter.

Then, tab to more speech settings and press enter.

Then, tab to a slider, and use page up to increase it to its maximum.

Then, just get out of settings with Alt+F4!

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: John Isige
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2018 11:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Speeding up one-core voices.

 

Hi all. Where do you go to adjust the speed of one-core voices? Not in

NVDA, you go somewhere else to increase the speed in Windows. I can't

for the life of me remember it, so of course I need to do it. I thought

it was in control panel but I guess not. Thanks in advance, I'm sure

bunches of you know.

 

 

 

 

 


Re: keyboard

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

ok, though it does not announce the control and shift keys specifically it will announce the key combinations.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie" <abletec@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard


Go to preferences > keyboard & tab to "speak command keys". Check the
box, press 'apply' then ok, & save the configuration.

On 10/11/18, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
I am working with a NVDA newby. how does she set NVDA so that the control
and shift keys are spoken. she wants this because her keyboard is not
standard.




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Re: keyboard

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

i tried that and the only extra keys that were spoken were everything but control and shift.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie" <abletec@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard


Go to preferences > keyboard & tab to "speak command keys". Check the
box, press 'apply' then ok, & save the configuration.

On 10/11/18, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
I am working with a NVDA newby. how does she set NVDA so that the control
and shift keys are spoken. she wants this because her keyboard is not
standard.




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Re: NVDA key to be assignable to any key

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Aman,

I don't have a comment on the validity of the issue at this stage (it seems a reasonable question to ask at least), but having created an issue as you have done is definitely the best way to have it addressed by those who can comment on the technicalities of whether there are any barriers to implementing it.   Here in the group is also a good place to get comments and other people's thoughts on it and have that discussion, so yes, I think you've done all the right things.

Actually you mentioned an older issue - I haven't looked that one up, but if it's the same, it's possible one will get closed as a duplicate of the other (if that happens, subscribe to the other issue, and add any extra comments there as well).

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 2:32 PM Aman Singer <aman.singer@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

                I’m not sure what the best method of proposing this is, I have put the following up as an issue at

 

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8836

 

 

                And am also posting the below to the list. If there is a better way to make suggestions, or if I ought not to post through one of these methods, I would appreciate being corrected.

 

Allowing the NVDA key to be any key on the keyboard

 

 

                I am using NVDA from iOS through a VNC application. I find that this works fairly well except that the application will not properly pass through the capslock or insert key as a modifier. I am, therefore, unable to use the NVDA commands without another program being involved to modify the keyboard. I have used autohotkey to map the right alt key to the insert key. Sharpkeys and other registry-based keyboard mapping applications don’t work. I would like the ability to have the NVDA key set to any key on the keyboard that Windows can see. I have seen keyboards with, for example, the ` key next to the space and there is always, of course, one of the alt keys. Would this be wise and possible? I have searched the issue archives but have only found one similar issue, issue 225, which has the same request but as a modification for the mac. That issue, made in 2009, is still open but I’m not sure of its status. Given that NVDA, unlike Jaws, will happily work with VNC input, this may be worth doing as I have yet to see a VNC application which sends the capslock key as a modifier properly.



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Re: Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

 

Well I have had 2 units the first a intel i5 quad gen4 workstation had no issues.

The second a newer i5 gen 7 unit had no issues at all but after an intel system patch which was obviously wrong, I had a lot of sound issues and had to reformat to fix it all.

Before this win10 did work well enough.

So depending on what you have it may be stable enough for you to use, my workstation ahs had no issue at all.

Saying that its plugged to external speakers so even if it did break it wouldn't matter so much.

While enhancements are not always fine, the fact is the internal speakers on my hp just suck.

On 10/12/2018 1:00 AM, Ian Blackburn wrote:
Yes you do get some problems with this update
One machine I have worked fine
Younger and older one connected by Wi-Fi broke the Internet connection properties
On 11 Oct 2018, at 7:28 pm, Tony Ballou <cyberpro224@outlook.com> wrote:

Hi Gene,



Honestly, there seems to be more of this occurring in the last decade or so going as far back as windows Vista. Windows 7 was the fix for that debacle. I've yet to read this article, and much thanks for the post my friend. I am inclined to agree with the premise that it is just plain carelessness and negligence on somebody's part there. The insider updates come almost too frequently for me to keep up with and test, and with other things on the plate right now I've dropped messing around with it and maybe its not the worst move I've made on my part. I can't stress it enough to everyone just how important it is to back everything up. For drives can hit the skids on you, and as Microsoft has now shown and unfortunately proven to us that files can disappear and be gone without a trace.



Tony



On 10/9/2018 7:31 AM, Gene wrote:
It may be worse than I thought. it may be just plain neglegence.

In my past writings on this subject, I've assumed that the problem in the latest major update was caused by defects in the insider program in identifying problems and the pressure of too frequent updates. This comment in an article on the Kim Komando site raises the very real possibility that its just plain carelessness and neglegence. This may become a major story and may result in major changes in how Microsoft handles updates.

And this problem is yet another reminder to back up everything you don't want to lose. If you don't, sooner or later, you'll lose a lot or all of your files because something is going to happen.

https://www.komando.com/happening-now/495846/windows-update-halted-by-microsoft-for-major-problems
Perhaps more troubling are the reports stating that the bug existed even on the Windows Insider preview versions of the update. Isn't this precisely the thing beta testing is for?

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 12:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

But in the old days, Windows didn't get a full upgrade every six months. Service packs were infrequent--perhaps two or three or four years apart. Windows 7 only had one. Perhaps Microsoft should look through its records of who had problems with Windows 10 upgrades through Windows 10's history. Perhaps they can identify certain combinations of hardware and software that are prone to problems. They then can actively attempt to recruit members of the Insider program who run such combinations. It appears the Insider program is not working as expected.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Monte Single
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 11:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

Windows rollout problems have been with us since the last millennium. Remember Windows 98, it crashed, right there, on stage with Bill Gates at the helm.
This just seems to be part of windows reality. It seems we must live with it or leave it. There is a choice.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: October-08-18 9:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

What is wrong with the insider program that this problem wasn't known before the rollout? Are there too few people in the program? Should there be more attention to trying to get more users who use Windows in different ways and on more varied equipment? Microsoft is developing a reputation for bad rollouts, hardly helpful for the company achieving its goals of having people accept "Windows as a service."

In an article I read yesterday from a reliable source, it was stated that both this major upgrade and the one before it had serious problems. I don't recall the details now, but I recall reading about how the previous upgrade put some users machines into infinite bootup loops. I don't recall what other problems may have been in that upgrade. Again, what is wrong with the insider program that this wasn't caught?

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 9:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues

Yes Jonathan Mosen was mentioning about it this very morning. Though he says
none of his machines have had the issue. There was also so question marks
about third party anti virusses maybe blocking the back up of files when
Windows tries to move them as well.

So who is going to sue for lost data?
The more I hear the more I'm glad I'm on windows 7, even if it won't read
dropbox dialogue boxes any more.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Ballou" <cyberpro224@outlook.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 1:31 PM
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 version 1809 being shelved do to major issues


Howdy,


From our win10 sister list and other reputable sources in the wires and
colleagues from my personal network there have been loads of reports
about people losing their data when they upgrade from windows 10 version
1803 to version 1809. Microsoft has put the version 1809 update back on
the shelf until they figure out what is happening. This seems to be
happening to folks who are signed into one drive while they run the
upgrade. Systems that are not signed into one drive appear not to have
the issue. You can read more of this here.


https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/6/17944966/microsoft-windows-10-october-2018-update-documents-deleted-issues-windows-update-paused


Tony






Re: NVDA key to be assignable to any key

 

didn't know vnc had audio support and worked with a screen reader can u please email me off list and let me know what your set up is?

Hank


On 10/11/2018 8:31 PM, Aman Singer wrote:

Hi all,

 

                I’m not sure what the best method of proposing this is, I have put the following up as an issue at

 

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8836

 

 

                And am also posting the below to the list. If there is a better way to make suggestions, or if I ought not to post through one of these methods, I would appreciate being corrected.

 

Allowing the NVDA key to be any key on the keyboard

 

 

                I am using NVDA from iOS through a VNC application. I find that this works fairly well except that the application will not properly pass through the capslock or insert key as a modifier. I am, therefore, unable to use the NVDA commands without another program being involved to modify the keyboard. I have used autohotkey to map the right alt key to the insert key. Sharpkeys and other registry-based keyboard mapping applications don’t work. I would like the ability to have the NVDA key set to any key on the keyboard that Windows can see. I have seen keyboards with, for example, the ` key next to the space and there is always, of course, one of the alt keys. Would this be wise and possible? I have searched the issue archives but have only found one similar issue, issue 225, which has the same request but as a modification for the mac. That issue, made in 2009, is still open but I’m not sure of its status. Given that NVDA, unlike Jaws, will happily work with VNC input, this may be worth doing as I have yet to see a VNC application which sends the capslock key as a modifier properly.

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