Aliexpress is good and very accessible. I've ordered few things and it went quite nicely.

Hi,

Just some random thoughts here in no particular order.



NVDA isn't coming to iPhone, so let's put that to bed right now. It's apple.


The interesting thing here is that despite the claim to 'get over it', Windows on arm is actually a very real thing. NVDA would run on that - all be it emulating x86 - and thus performance would be drastically reduced, but there are laptops out there running snapdragon processors and windows 10 right now.


Given some time and effort (and, who knows, in 5-10 years arm processors might be even more mainstream in windows laptops) NVDA, at least for ARM processors, could be a real possibility. Though, as Brian rightly points out, proper keyboard input etc would be a huge thing on Android. I don't know the differences in coding for windows on ARM on Windows vs. Android, and I suspect they are quite different, however windows running native ARM applications in the near future might translate to NVDA having a slow transition? Maybe just parts of the essential screen reader to make response times quicker? I'm actually curious if anyone on the mailing list has tried NVDA on one of these snapdragon laptops to see what performance is actually like.


This is probably super messy code wise, too, and would be a complete disaster. But x86, while proven reliable, has been around for decades. Some very interesting (and probably frustrating accessibility wise) times are ahead for us.


This blog post, while dramatic, really points out what I am trying to get at here.

http://tonsky.me/blog/disenchantment/

Well, Windows has more than one screen reader too, hasn't it?

Ciao,

Ollie

Yes, it's a bit like NVDA, but in my opinion it doesn't work as smoothly.

It has improved significantly over the last few years and, I must say, I finally understood how Orca works when I started using NVDA in 2009...


Ciao,

Ollie

Aren't you a pessimist???!!!!


How many things you've seen happen that you wouldn't have ever dreamt of, and now they're here?


NVDA itself is one of them, isn't it?


Why not look at the world with a little more joy and a little less anger?(grin, smile, lol, rofl!)


Have a lovely week!

Ollie

Hello,


It doesn't.


when I tried it a few months ago, it looked very accessible at first glance, but then I discovered that, although I could read teh prices of all items, I couldn't read what the prices were for. In other words, it reads the prices, but not the products... Not very useful!


I meant to try Aliexpress, but never got around to do so.


Ciao,

Ollie

Hi guys,

The following information comes from the heading called Recently updated on my accessibilitycentral.net website... This information is for the NVDA related material.

Recently updated: Added a tutorial on how to add a Humanware BrailleNote to NVDA as well as a section called Add-on updater http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html.  Christchurch City Library announces the installation of the NVDA screen reader on 390 of their public terminals across their network of 19 libraries. To find out which software is available on the CCL network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/  Added a section called Changes to navigation of the Emoji panel in Windows 10 version 1809. How to add an emoji in Windows 10 with NVDA (on the NVDA tutorials for Windows 10 page) http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html

Also, added playing your music/movies to a Google device (off the how to use the VLC media player with the NVDA screen reader page).

Inputting with MuseScore; Using your Wordpress dashboard with NVDA; Added an audio tutorial for Skype for web, using the NVDA screen reader http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html;

Gene NZ

Hi Gene!

Thanks for letting us know!

Have a great one!

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 2:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi guys

 

Just to let you know the web site has come back on line it seemed it was a very series crash on there end. it may go up and down while they repopulate all the web sites on that server.

 

Hopefully nothing like this happens again for a very long long  ..... time again.

 

It is dated the 23rd of September so is the last update that was drop boxed to the list.

 

Gene nz

On 2/10/2018 10:14 AM, David Moore wrote:

Hi Gene and all!

I just unzipped it with 7Zip!

It works very well.

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 4:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Hi

 

The website has been zipped you will need a program to unzip it. You can also do it with windows explorer but may be better to make a folder then put the files into it that is easy to find. Then it is a matter of just going to the index file with in the folder and pressing the enter key on it and use it like normal. As long as people have internet access they should be able to access audio files  etc.

 

There may be another tutorial been added on later this week so will update the link to the drop box account then.

 

I will let people know then.

 

The drop box link is https://www.dropbox.com/s/fh0ke305t6afduw/Accessibility%20Central%20Website.zip?dl=0

Gene nz

 

 

 

 

 

On 2/10/2018 9:11 AM, The Wolf wrote:

can you please dropbox me the files?

the website that is?

On 10/1/2018 1:07 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi guys

 

As you probably have noticed Accessibilitycentral.net has not be accessible and the following message comes up when you try to access one of the pages Website is temporarily down due to file system failure. Recovery is in progress, please check back later. Sorry for inconveniences

.

 

The people we host with were alerted when i first noticed it and it has to be fixed on there end. I do not know when it will be back up but hopefully it is ASAP.

 

I guess this is maybe what you get some times when you host with a free provider? with no adds and only have to pay for the domain name.

 

It sounds pretty serious like the server hard drive took a dive?

 

If any one wants to access the material on it at present I can zip it up and drop box it until it comes back on line.

This will only be the website files not the audio files as every one has access to the internet mostly.

 

You will then need to unzip it and put it into a folder with the files. Then it is a matter of just accessing the index file for the website.

 

I might again even look at other options for hosting.

 

Let us know and can drop box to the list.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 5/09/2018 8:11 AM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi guys

 

Pages recently updated
Recently updated: Added a tutorial called The basics of making a ticket for NVACCESS on the NVDA audio tutorials page

under trouble shooting.

Gene nz

 

 

On 9/08/2018 5:14 AM, Inam Uddin via Groups.Io wrote:

Actually there are 5 different menues in Skype Electron.

All the menues access with alt key.

Alt+e for edit menue.

Alt+f for file menue.

Alt+h for help menue.

Alt+t for tool menue.

And alt+v for view menue respectively.

For details, go to those menues and discover how much those menues are accessible.

I’m very sorry to let you know that most of us do not like to spend sometimes to explore new things and want to stick with old technology.

At the end all I can is “No gain without pain”!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

 

 

You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...

Inamuddin.ronaque@...

outlook:
inam092@...

yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...

Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786

Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1

Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598 

+92-334-3348409

 

 

From: Hareth
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 3:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

The Skype support page lags these hotkeys for Skype 8:

ALT plus F.

for a menu contains some features or options

ALT plus E

For the edit menu.

ALT plus T

for the tools menu.

ALT plus H

For the help menu.

 

 

 

On 8/7/18, Inam Uddin via Groups.Io <charlsdarwin1969@...> wrote:

> This key command will work for  both the things!

> With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

> Charlsdarwin1

> 

> 

> You can contact me via gmail:

> inamuddin09@...

> Inamuddin.ronaque@...

> outlook:

> inam092@...

> yahoo:

> inamuddin2010@...

> Add my Skype ID:

> charlsdarwin1

> Meet me on facebook:

> www.facebook.com/inamuddin786

> Follow me on my twitter ID:

> www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1

> Call me on my cell numbers:

> +92-300-2227598

> +92-334-3348409

> 

> 

> From: Gene New Zealand

> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 7:40 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> 

> Hi

> 

> Is that not to make a call? I would have to go back and check when i checked

> the short cuts i did not see any to answer. so this one works to answer a

> call?

> 

> I wonder if any of the old short cuts would work? at moment i just get it to

> automatically answer it is alot easier.

> 

> Gene nz

> 

> 

> On 8/7/2018 12:01 PM, David Moore wrote:

> Hi Gene!

> Try CTRL+Shift+P

> It worked for me in Skype 8.25 as well as the Win10 app of Skype!!

> David Moore

> 

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> 

> From: Gene New Zealand

> Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 5:34 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> 

> Hi

> 

> I have not gone through all the short cuts for skype either I copied the

> list from them and tried a few of them but not all. it just might be a focus

> thing with nvda not speaking that shorcut when preformed?

> 

> Gene nz

> 

> 

> On 8/7/2018 9:24 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

> Hi

> 

> I just had a quick look under the skype 8 short cut keys hopefully i googled

> the right list for skype 8 for desk top it mentions short cut keys for other

> stuff in skype. the list can be found here at

> https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12025/what-are-hotkeys-and-how-do-i-use-them-in-skype

> At the moment so i do not have to be in the screen under the calling section

> i think it is under your profile you can check the boxes to have it

> automatically answer in coming calls and videos that is what i have done at

> present.

> 

> I thought also some one on this list said there was another short cut that

> worked but until it can be confirmed in this version by some one else i then

> will add it. It when i had a quick look did not mention a short cut for

> answer in coming calls or video calls may be still to be added?

> 

> I do not mind the automatically answer part saves rushing and trying to

> figure which part of the screen to be in. It would of made sense to have

> left the old short cut keys from skype 7 in it.

> 

> 

> Gene nz

> 

> On 8/6/2018 11:30 PM, Dr. arvind singh brar wrote:

> hi,

> could you mention the shortcut key to answer a skype c

> This message is transmitted on 100% recycled electrons.

> 

> 

> Homepage;

> http://tip.simpl.com/

> 

> On 6 Aug 2018, at 16.02, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>

> wrote:

> Hi,

> 

> 

> RE: Recently added on accessibilitycentral.net

> 

> Recently added a tutorial (both written and audio) for Skype 8 desktop for

> Windows, using the NVDA screen reader.

> A link to the page can be found below:

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

> 

> 

> Regards,

> Gene NZ

> 

> 

> On 7/11/2018 11:19 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

> Hi,

> 

> RE: Recently added on accessibilitycentral.net

> 

> The following tutorials have been added to the NVDA audio tutorials page:

> How to completely uninstall NVDA from your computer

> Addon troubleshooting

> 

> A link to the page can be found below:

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

> 

> Regards,

> Gene NZ

> 

> On 5/31/2018 9:27 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

> Hi,

> 

> RE: Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> 

> I have added the following to all NVDA related pages - For a variety of NVDA

> related resources from around the world,

> please visit the NVDA screen reader related resources page at the following

> link NVDA screen reader related resources

> 

> Regards,

> Gene NZ

> On 5/6/2018 12:43 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

> Dear Gene,

> 

> this is grat idea. It will be helpful for many people. Now I hope google

> translate will improve more in the near future.

> 

> 

> Best

> Adriani

> 

> 

> Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New

> Zealand

> Gesendet: Samstag, 28. April 2018 07:56

> An: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> 

> Hi Adriani

> 

> I have just added a link to the google translate page for other languages on

> the main web page.

> You can jump down by letter H to its heading then go down to the link then

> press the enter key where it will take you to another page.

> 

> For some reason i could not put in a plug in to do it and it wanted it on

> every page so have gone down this other route. There is a heading that says

> some thing like translate this website to another language and a link to the

> translate page. The default language is english and the website main page is

> already in the edit section to translate. it is then a matter of changing it

> to another language then having it translate to it. Just after the language

> combo box you want it to go to is where you can read it in another language.

> it also seems if you click on one of the links the next page is also

> translated but only on that page i have it pointing to off my website.

> You will see what i mean when it is translated.

> 

> 

> 

> it may help? for people where english is not there first language like

> mine.

> 

> Not sure if the steps on what to do is enough or should i add a little more

> or hopefully it is clear enough on what to do.

> 

> Gene nz

> 

> 

> 

> On 4/13/2018 5:41 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

> Dear Gene,

> 

> thank you for your great job. This is very important for the whole

> community. I have forwarded your links to the german community and in the

> translations group.

> 

> I hope I will find some time during next week to provide you some

> suggestions.

> 

> I propose to split the related sources in “development sources” and “user

> specific sources”. In this way we could add links to github and bitbucket as

> well.

> 

> Best

> Adriani

> 

> 

> 

> Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New

> Zealand

> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. April 2018 10:10

> An: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> 

> Hi Adriani

> 

> There is a under construction page that went up tonight for nvda screen

> reader related resources off the main website at

> http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

> When more resources get added there may be links off the nvda related web

> pages on my website that point to that page.

> 

> I have a rough idea of categories for the resources.

> These can be changed  or added to.

> 

> Gene nz

> 

> On 3/25/2018 5:02 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

> Hi Adriani

> 

> Yep I am looking at doing a page for nvda screen reader related resources

> which i will add it into which will be a separate web page. In that page I

> will break it down into say audio resources, video resources maybe nvda

> blogs? about using nvda? Not quite sure of other sections if i do and would

> be more a point to page but not jeffs one.

> Even though he had a good site.

> 

> I am guessing we do  have links to other nvda resources like on you tube etc

> but not in the one place.

> 

> Gene nz

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> On 3/5/2018 9:22 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

> Gene,

> 

> thanks for including that. I wonder if Joseph’s new tutorials set “welcome

> to NVDA 2018” can be included as well?

> 

> Best

> Adriani

> 

> 

> Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New

> Zealand

> Gesendet: Montag, 5. März 2018 03:21

> An: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> 

> Hi Adriani

> 

> I was not sure if it worked on XP as when the directions went up i think at

> that time it had been tested on 7,8 and 10.

> 

> Would the directions from 10 also work on XP? to get into it as i used to do

> it the other way that was posted.

> 

> I have not any XP machines here now to test with.

> 

> The directions you gave are on the nvda audio tutorials page under trouble

> shooting.

> 

> Gene nz

> 

> 

> On 3/4/2018 11:45 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

> Hello,

> 

> we had this conversation some months ago, here is a gegistry file which

> activates your sound driver in safe mode. It has been tested with XP as well

> and it works perfectly. NVDA can be used in safe mode after activating this

> file:

> 

> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebkqst6n393i6jk/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=1

> 

> 

> Best

> Adriani

> 

> Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New

> Zealand

> Gesendet: Samstag, 3. März 2018 19:47

> An: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> 

> Hi

> 

> the old way to get into safe mode in windows 10 can be found here at

> https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-boot-to-safe-mode-with-command-prompt-2624541

> 

> You will need a pair of eyes to do this plus you might not even have sound.

> 

> So am guessing you will need to burrow some eyes and give them directions to

> fix the problem.

> 

> Gene nz

> 

> 

> On 3/4/2018 2:58 AM, zahra wrote:

> hi gene thanks so much for your great work of you and other members.

> how can i access safe mode in windows xp with nvda?

> does it have solution for users of xp?

> thanks so much every one and God bless you all!

> 

> On 3/3/18, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

> HI guys

> 

> Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> 

> RECENTLY UPDATED:

> 

> 

> Added a link to all NVDA related pages for the new NVDA promotional video.

> 

> Added a link to the addons page for the NVDA Add-on developers guide which

> has been updated for 2018.1

> 

> Added a review of the Samsung UA50MU6100SXNZ television to the podcasts and

> product reviews page

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/podcasts%20and%20product%20reviews.html

> 

> NEW:

> 

> Added a page called Skype Trusted Microsoft Store App (off the NVDA

> tutorials for other programs page)

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

> as well as a page called Using Windows Media Player with NVDA.

> 

> Gene NZ

> 

> On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, David Moore wrote:

> Hi Gene NZ!

> Thanks so much for what you do for us!

> God bless!

> David Moore

> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows

> 10

> 

> From: Gene New Zealand<mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...>

> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:01 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Subject: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

> 

> 

> Hi guys

> 

> Pages recently updated

> Recently updated: Added links to NVDA Guides on all NVDA related pages

> 

> New: Added a tutorial How to access safe mode in Windows and exit it with

> the NVDA screen reader by Hareth  and co to the NVDA audio tutorials page

> under the troubleshooting section

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html Added a

> tutorial (by Gene Asner) called Navigating ribbons in WordPad (to the NVDA

> tutorials learning the basics page)

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20learning%20the%20basics.html

> Added a tutorial called Using the Ribbon interface in Windows via the

> keyboard (by Brian Vogel) to the NVDA tutorials for Windows 10 page.

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html

> 

> Gene NZ

> --

> [Image                NVDA certified expert]

> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related

> material

> at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New

> Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the

> NVDA

> screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or

> location) is near to you please visit

> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa

> People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you,

> please

> visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The

> certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals

> from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert

> exam.

> 

> 

> 

> --

> [Image NVDA          certified expert]

> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related

> material

> at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New

> Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the

> NVDA

> screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or

> location) is near to you please visit

> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa

> People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you,

> please

> visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The

> certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals

> from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert

> exam.

> 

> 

> 

> 

> --

> 

> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material

> at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New

> Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA

> screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or

> location) is near to you please visit

> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa

> People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please

> visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The

> certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals

> from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert

> exam.

> 

> --

> 

> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material

> at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New

> Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA

> screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or

> location) is near to you please visit

> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa

> People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please

> visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The

> certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals

> from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert

> exam.

> 

> --

> 

> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material

> at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New

> Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA

> screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or

> location) is near to you please visit

> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa

> People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please

> visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The

> certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals

> from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert

> exam.

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

> 

> 

 

 

 

 

 

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https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y

 

 

 

 

Hello Adrian,

 

Windows 7 does not offer full screen magnification. If this is what you need, do explore ZoomText 2019.You can download it from:

 

https://support.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/ZoomText

 

It runs in a 40-minute demo mode. Not portable. That version is sold in a USB stick.

 

Windows 10 offers some high contrast modes and colour filters. Unless you need a peculiar colour scheme, I do not see why you need ZoomText. When it comes to screen reading, NVDA gives you much more than ZoomText can.

 

--
Desert

Thanks!
Clear and perfect. No doubts at all :)

It is indeed possible with configuration profiles. Let's say you, by default, are set to the laptop layout, but want to use the desktop layout in a certain app. Just create a configuration profile while in the application you want to use the desktop layout in, then press Control+NVDA+P. Press Alt+N for the new option, then choose the option for the current application. Then, configure the layout and other settings as needed. Save the settings with Control+NVDA+C to be on the safe side. And, that's it.

This list isn't about NVDA?
This topic isn't about NVDA?
As it goes, sooner or later we won't be allowed to talk about anything here.

This site is not accessible. I've tried many times to use it to order things for my daughter with no luck.

Earle

Really!

On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 07:10 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:

Did nvda work on them.

Given the radical difference in processor architecture and lack of a keyboard, for starters, it's highly doubtful.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back