Yes, it would be fantastic... Also on Linux...

Ciao,

Ollie




Il 10/03/2019 19:42, marcio via Groups.Io ha scritto:

As many other people have already mentioned, it seems there's not any plan, for now ou the future, to make NVDA a screen reader to a smartphone.
It actually would be quite nice, though, and I'd be the first to grab it if it ever existed.
Considering how powerful NVDA can be on the Windows platform, if such power could be applied on a smartphone, it would be wonderful!
But unfortunately, I don't see it happening :(

Cheers,
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Em 10/03/2019 12:16, Sociohack AC escreveu:

Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
-- 
Regards,
Sociohack

People, how probable is it that someone is going to take the effort to join an e-mailing list, one directly related to accessibility issues, and post a malicious link?

Risk assessment, in order to be accurate, needs to take a lot of factors into account, including the above.  I also know that I know the name Christo de Klerk either from earlier participation on this list or else the Win10 or JAWS group.

While I agree that a description would be nice, just because it might interest those not yet using something, but it is not unreasonable, in any way, to expect that someone click through to check out something.  It's a perfectly reasonable expectation.  Developing safe browsing and downloading habits for interacting with cyberspace does not extend to never clicking on any link where you don't know where it goes or you'd never go virtually anywhere.

When a site offers extensive documentation of what's there (and Nir Sofer's nirsoft.net is an excellent example) I certainly am not inclined to do anything other than offer a pointer and those who are interested should go there themselves.  In this specific case it's clear that the Mr. de Klerk uses and loves the software in question and seems to believe the reputation of Jacques Stassen may very well precede him.  I didn't know about him or his software, but clicked through to check it out.
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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 

On 10 Mar 2019, at 14:18, Travis Siegel wrote:

It has nothing to do with vulnerabilities in browsers, javascript is perfectly capable of downloading malware to your machine without ever alerting you to the fact.  In fact, there have been recent articles, (and mentions on her podcast) from Kim kommando for this very thing, when she was talking about people getting you to click on sites ttrying to convince foks they had won some money, or would win money if they clicked on particular urls, which actually lead to sites that would infect your pc with malware.  It doesn't take much, if it did, then you'd not see so many folks getting infected from pirated video sites, which still hasn't taught my 16-year-old son to stop visiting such sites, even though he's had to reinstall windows twice from scratch as a result of such nonsense.

On 3/10/2019 4:42 PM, Tyler Spivey wrote:

Can you back up the statement that a single click can leave your computer infected with malware? If there's a vulnerability in the major browsers, it should be fixed pretty quickly.

On 3/10/2019 4:42 PM, Tyler Spivey wrote:

Can you back up the statement that a single click can leave your computer infected with malware? If there's a vulnerability in the major browsers, it should be fixed pretty quickly.

Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
--
Regards,
Sociohack

Can you back up the statement that a single click can leave your
computer infected with malware? If there's a vulnerability in the major
browsers, it should be fixed pretty quickly.

Here's the info from the webpage that seems most important:
Program features
• Battery status on laptops is reported automatically while disconnected
from charger,  while charging, or both. The notification intervals  are
configured in the Configuration Manager. As can be expected, this
feature and associated  options  are hidden on desktop computers;
• Contact Manager, including  yearly customisable audio and text
birthday reminders for listed contacts. Alert options are either audio
and text, text only, or disabled. If set to audio and text, the audio
alert will be repeated after 15 minutes (by default), if a reminder is
not acknowledged. The interval can be changed to  half hourly, hourly,
or disabled in Configuration Manager. This module is mainly for the
benefit of users who do not have access to a smartphone, or possibly
those who prefer the flexibility and simplicity of the Stascom
alternative. The current version does not feature importing contacts
from an external file source such as csv;
• Reminder Manager with audio and text alerts, with optional repetitions
on a future date. Audio alert sound can be changed if desired. The same
customisable options as with birthday reminders, are available. See above;
• Calculate day of the week for any date between 1 January 1601 and 31
December 9999;
• Maximises application windows automatically. Window title exceptions
can be specified ;
• Prevents mute status on default sound card automatically. Recovery
volume is configurable;
• Low volume correction on default sound card (disabled by default).
Minimum and normalise levels are configurable;
• Two schedules and output percentage for automatic volume adjustment
can be specified (disabled by default);
• Password Generator, creating a unique, very strong 10 character
password with each keystroke. Generated password can be copied to
clipboard optionally;
• Time announcements on the hour,  half hour and  quarter hour.
Individual hours can be specified, or disabled altogether.  Custom audio
chimes are optional if preferred over the included sound clips;
• Accented and other special characters  can be easily inserted with hot
keys;
• Alphabetical list of 51 Windows applications and settings quickly
accesseible with a hot key;
• master volume level increased / decreased   by 5% with hot keys,
ascending / descending tones to indicate the volume adjustment;
• Word count for selected text in commonly used editors and browsers,
with an option to place the result on the Windows clipboard. This
feature is not supported in some editors and e-mail clients with
non-standard cursors. The results are more accurate than in most similar
packages, as it ignores all punctuation and special characters;
• Program configuration can be reset to installation defaults;
• Report generator, providing a summary of program settings and system
information in HTML format for easy navigation;
• Choice of three sets of modifier keys to use with Stascom hotkeys. A
bypass key suspends Stascom hotkeys for five seconds.

On 3/10/2019 1:39 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
> You know, if you're going to recommend something, you really should
> explain why you're recommending it.  Telling folks to go look it for
> themselves is kind of counterproductive.  If you're not willing to let
> folks know why you're recommending something, then in my opinion, you
> shouldn't be posting for folks to go try it out.  It's common courtesy
> to let folks know what something is when you're putting in a plug for
> others to use it.  I'm a bit irritated with folks telling us to try
> this, or download that without letting us know what it is that they want
> us to download or use.  I've been on lists where such messages
> recommending downloads without explanation as to what is being
> recommended would result in banning, because nobody has time to go
> research each and every link somebody posts just for the hell of it.
> Also, with just a link there's no way to know if the link is real or
> some sort of spam link that will fill your pc with viruses.  I find
> nothing wrong with folks asking what something is before they take the
> time to click on it, especially these days when a single click can
> infect your pc with malware or leave your pc in an unbootable state.
>
> On 3/10/2019 11:24 AM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
>>
>> And he has kindly put the website's link in his message.  There
>> shouldn't be any excuse as the info  is just a click away.
>>
>> On 3/10/2019 7:58 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> There is no real description of what this program is for.  So as not
>>> to waste peoples time with something they are not interested in.
>>>
>>> Regards Adrian.
>>>
>>> On 10/03/2019 11:45, Christo de Klerk wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello all
>>>>
>>>> Those of you who use and have come to love the free Stascom
>>>> utilities by Jacques Stassen, take note that Stascom 2019 has just
>>>> been released. This release has many new exciting features. To those
>>>> who have not used the program, I recommend that you give it a try.
>>>> You can download it from:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.stascom.co.za/stascom.html#content
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> Christo
>>>>
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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: 10 March 2019 20:03
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] using nvda to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions

Thank you, Richard. That did the trick. Intuitive it is not, but it is nice to be able to do this without having to ask my sighted husband.
It'd be cool if focus could be placed on that confirmation box after you press the cancel button.


Mary

On 3/10/2019 12:41 PM, Richard Bartholomew wrote:

I haven't done this for a while but, from memory, I think that when you hit enter on that element, a confirmation box appears at the bottom of the screen.

Good luck!
Richard Bartholomew


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: 10 March 2019 18:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] using nvda to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions

I wonder if anybody can give me some advice as to the exact steps to follow in order to use the Amazon website to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions.I can get to the "manage content and devices" section as instructed. I even managed to get the site to show my magazine subscriptions, something I was not successful at doing using my iPhone.


Once you have the subscriptions showing, there is an "actions" button to the left of each subscription. You are suppose to click on that to reveal choices, such as changing payment method or canceling the subscription. I can find the cancel subscription, but it does not activate when you press enter on it. I can also find it with object navigation, then press the numpad key for left click, also to no avail.
What am I missing here?


Mary

If magnification is mostly what you're looking for then I'd definitely look at the Windows 10 magnifier under Settings, Ease of Access.  If you need some of the functions related to tweaking foreground and background color and/or App Reader or Doc Reader then the Windows built-in is not nearly so sophisticated.

You should be able to use ZoomText (even a legacy version) with NVDA provided you choose a keyboard layout for each where there is not a conflict between keyboard shortcuts, as one or the other will be "the winner" and I believe that may be the program that loaded the most recently.

I used ZoomText with JAWS in the days before ZoomText Fusion with a client in the process of losing his sight who had good days where ZoomText was enough, in between days where we used both (sometimes at once), and bad days where it was strictly screen reader.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 

On 3/10/2019 1:39 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:

You know, if you're going to recommend something, you really should explain why you're recommending it.  Telling folks to go look it for themselves is kind of counterproductive.  If you're not willing to let folks know why you're recommending something, then in my opinion, you shouldn't be posting for folks to go try it out.  It's common courtesy to let folks know what something is when you're putting in a plug for others to use it.  I'm a bit irritated with folks telling us to try this, or download that without letting us know what it is that they want us to download or use.  I've been on lists where such messages recommending downloads without explanation as to what is being recommended would result in banning, because nobody has time to go research each and every link somebody posts just for the hell of it.
Also, with just a link there's no way to know if the link is real or some sort of spam link that will fill your pc with viruses.  I find nothing wrong with folks asking what something is before they take the time to click on it, especially these days when a single click can infect your pc with malware or leave your pc in an unbootable state.
On 3/10/2019 11:24 AM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

And he has kindly put the website's link in his message.  There shouldn't be any excuse as the info  is just a click away.

On 3/10/2019 7:58 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:

Hi

There is no real description of what this program is for.  So as not to waste peoples time with something they are not interested in.

Regards Adrian.

On 10/03/2019 11:45, Christo de Klerk wrote:

Hello all

Those of you who use and have come to love the free Stascom utilities by Jacques Stassen, take note that Stascom 2019 has just been released. This release has many new exciting features. To those who have not used the program, I recommend that you give it a try. You can download it from:

https://www.stascom.co.za/stascom.html#content

Kind regards

Christo

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Hello Adrian,

 

I use ZoomText 10.1 at work and soon will be upgrading. ZoomText 11 is a legacy product. The latest version is 2019.

 

In the Desktop Layout Mode, the main modifier key is Caps Lock. And in the Laptop Layout Mode, the modifier keys are Caps Lock + Alt.

 

For your interest, here are some ZoomText Hotkey Commands that every user should know

Zoom In / Out    Caps Lock + Up / Down

Zoom to 1x (toggle)        Caps Lock + Enter

Enhance Colors On/Off   Caps Lock + C

Show User Interface       Caps Lock + Ctrl + U

ZoomText On/Off            Caps Lock + Ctrl + Enter

Launch AppReader         Caps Lock + Alt + A

Voice Faster / Slower     Caps Lock + Alt + Up / Down

Voice On/Off      Caps Lock + Alt + Enter

Quiet    Ctrl

 

If you have Windows 10, I don’ think you need ZoomText. Most of its functions can be achieved with the accessibility features native to Windows 10 and NVDA.

 

 

--
Desert

This thread raises the question about whether a feature should be added to NVDA while using browse mode or forms mode.  If you are filling out a form, it might be a useful feature to be able to have new material that comes up in response to an action taken automatically read.  It appears, from comments in this thread, that new material comes up in response to something the user does and it is not in the form or not in a place the user would come across it if just going down the form.  If it were read, the user would be alerted to look elsewhere for the new material. 

 

I'm not sure this feature should be on by default but it might be useful and save people trouble.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Mary Otten

Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 3:03 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] using nvda to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions

Thank you, Richard. That did the trick. Intuitive it is not, but it is
nice to be able to do this without having to ask my sighted husband.
It'd be cool if focus could be placed on that confirmation box after you
press the cancel button.


Mary

On 3/10/2019 12:41 PM, Richard Bartholomew wrote:
> I haven't done this for a while but, from memory, I think that when you hit enter on that element, a confirmation box appears at the bottom of the screen.
>
> Good luck!
> Richard Bartholomew
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: 10 March 2019 18:49
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] using nvda to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions
>
> I wonder if anybody can give me some advice as to the exact steps to follow in order to use the Amazon website to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions.I can get to the "manage content and devices" section as instructed. I even managed to get the site to show my magazine subscriptions, something I was not successful at doing using my iPhone.
>
>
> Once you have the subscriptions showing, there is an "actions" button to the left of each subscription. You are suppose to click on that to reveal choices, such as changing payment method or canceling the subscription. I can find the cancel subscription, but it does not activate when you press enter on it. I can also find it with object navigation, then press the numpad key for left click, also to no avail.
> What am I missing here?
>
>
> Mary
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I've read all the replies and can't find out what it is about until now.
Can you please quote me one of them with this information?
My bad, I'll pay more attention next time.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 10/03/2019 16:41, Antony Stone escreveu:

Please, read the previous replies in the thread.

Antony.

On Sunday 10 March 2019 at 20:36:45, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

Em 10/03/2019 08:45, Christo de Klerk escreveu:

To those who have not used the program, I recommend that you give it a
try.

I'd like to give it a try, but how I can give something a try if I don't
know what something is about?
At least a short description, please :)

Cheers,
Marcio
AKA /Starboy/