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Re: A query I meant to post earlier about windows messages
Brian's Mail list account
So is mine and on windows 7 and all I want is one straight answer, you open the action centre and cannot see any messages or any kind of indication which bit of action centre it might concern.
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From: "MAX" <max@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] A query I meant to post earlier about windows messages It's a message from the action center.
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Re: A query I meant to post earlier about windows messages
Brian's Mail list account
He has hijacked the thread. Its nothing to do with mail for me, its a sudden message now in the tray, one message from windows but unless I can see the actual message I cannot tell one way or the other.
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Its only started recently. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] A query I meant to post earlier about windows messages Well Maxy do as it says. Maybe a setting got messed up somewhere. I get this sometimes and I do fix it. I’m assuming you are using the Mail app? Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of MAX <max@...> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 3:51:58 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] A query I meant to post earlier about windows messages Along that line I am getting a message every few days telling me that Microsoft needs to fix my email. My email is working fine. I guess they never heard the expression, if it aint broke don't fix it. What am I saying? Microsoft is well known for fixing things that aint broke. 73 (Regards). Max K 4 O D S. I've Never Lost the Wonder. Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/ -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:46 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] A query I meant to post earlier about windows messages hitting enter on that can help to open it however I don't always trust windowsaction/ notiffication centre. For example, during a clock sync the power dropped off and the router died. I got it back every thing was out of sync, windows was alegal, everything wouldn't open and everything was screaming at me. It was waterfox that alerted me to the fact everything was backwards and pointed me at my clock, which I changed. Then everything worked. But the messages stayed, and I had to tell action centre to ignore them till they died. On a similar note, notifications can report a problem, but in a criptic way and after I have found and solved it. I was upgrading one of my security/ backup programs. And immediately I got a notification that I was unsafe, recomending a full reset and reformat. I was aware the thing was broken, and continued updating. After this, I had to clear things. I have had it say for example that I am using pirated windows, and my accounts are not signing in and that a whole host of things are screwed and that I should reset or something. Yet when I have logged into where I need to go to check, not only are they not showing no problems but checking on the server side shows that they never existed. Or existed for such a little time it didn't matter. The only time that its ever really worked was when I was updating a business server for my uncle and the system kept crashing, at that time, windows put up the usual video card issue with the drivers crashing out. A small note put that it was a bug with the driver, and to open a website for instructions, where I found the manufacturer had added to the action note that I needed a new driver and got a direct link to it. But that was before things got weird. Now, I do glance at notifications centre just like I would glance at the paper, but 99.9% of the time I just clear them, in most cases its fixed, not a problem or if it is, I can handle it without any issue. On 11/29/2018 10:56 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: In Windows 7, sometimes in the tray icons is one saying you have one
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Re: A query I meant to post earlier about windows messages
Brian's Mail list account
My query is not so much whether its busted, but more along the lines, I can see the alert, and I can open the action centre but where is the message it is referring to, give me a clue?
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From: "MAX" <max@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] A query I meant to post earlier about windows messages Along that line I am getting a message every few days telling me that Microsoft needs to fix my email. My email is working fine. I guess they never heard the expression, if it aint broke don't fix it. What am I saying? Microsoft is well known for fixing things that aint broke. 73 (Regards). Max K 4 O D S. I've Never Lost the Wonder. Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/ -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:46 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] A query I meant to post earlier about windows messages hitting enter on that can help to open it however I don't always trust windowsaction/ notiffication centre. For example, during a clock sync the power dropped off and the router died. I got it back every thing was out of sync, windows was alegal, everything wouldn't open and everything was screaming at me. It was waterfox that alerted me to the fact everything was backwards and pointed me at my clock, which I changed. Then everything worked. But the messages stayed, and I had to tell action centre to ignore them till they died. On a similar note, notifications can report a problem, but in a criptic way and after I have found and solved it. I was upgrading one of my security/ backup programs. And immediately I got a notification that I was unsafe, recomending a full reset and reformat. I was aware the thing was broken, and continued updating. After this, I had to clear things. I have had it say for example that I am using pirated windows, and my accounts are not signing in and that a whole host of things are screwed and that I should reset or something. Yet when I have logged into where I need to go to check, not only are they not showing no problems but checking on the server side shows that they never existed. Or existed for such a little time it didn't matter. The only time that its ever really worked was when I was updating a business server for my uncle and the system kept crashing, at that time, windows put up the usual video card issue with the drivers crashing out. A small note put that it was a bug with the driver, and to open a website for instructions, where I found the manufacturer had added to the action note that I needed a new driver and got a direct link to it. But that was before things got weird. Now, I do glance at notifications centre just like I would glance at the paper, but 99.9% of the time I just clear them, in most cases its fixed, not a problem or if it is, I can handle it without any issue. On 11/29/2018 10:56 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: In Windows 7, sometimes in the tray icons is one saying you have one
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Re: I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA
Gene
Do you look immediately down the page? The
text changes if it does, if you read immediately below the clickable
items. This is with the older version of Chrome I tested with and an older
version of NVDA. Don't do what I did at first and skip down looking for
text past the navigation links. Press enter, the correct command for
clicable items, then read down the page from there.
Also, if you have JAVA scripts disabled or are
using a script blocker, the clickable items may not work. I don't recall
if I experimented with this, but such items may require JAVA scripts to
work.
Gene
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Re: I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA
Chris Mullins
I tried the “My account and ward” item on the LDS site. It does not respond to enter or spacebar but does respond to NVDA+numpad slash followed by Numpad slash to simulate a left click. This may be due to poor site design making these items only responsive to the mouse.
Cheers Chris
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: 30 November 2018 00:54 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA
I have a very similar problem on the site:
lds.org
There are 2 lists of items at the top of the page. NVDA doesn't even announce them as links or buttons as it used to do. I suspect this is due to some changes to the site but it seems it should still work since other links on the same page work just fine.
This has started over the past few releases of NVDA and has been getting worse. I just noticed how bad it has gotten today.
Any improvements in this would be very greatly appreciated.
Dan Beaver On 11/29/2018 6:29 PM, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
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Re: I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA
Sile
Hello Gene, . In this case I do have clickable items enabled, it’s just that they don’t appear to change status when I try to click on them. I’m trying to use either aspace or enter, is there another trick I’m missing?
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Re: NVDA and Word 2016
Chris Mullins
Hi
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Further to Don's post, I did an experiment using Word 2007, which does not repeat but does render quite verbose details for each menu item. If I switch off both "Report Object descriptions"and "Report object short-cut keys", in the Object Presentation dialog (NVDA+Ctrl+o), then only the basic text is spoken for each menu item. Cheers Chris
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H Sent: 29 November 2018 23:20 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Word 2016 I confirm that if you uncheck report object descriptions in the NVDA settings the double announcing of menu items stops. Not sure what unchecking this setting causes overall in other situations. On 11/29/2018 4:34 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote: This is a known issue though I'm not sure whether anyone has tried to
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RES: [nvda] BETA2 DOESN'T READ TABLES IN PDF DOCUMENTS
Alexandre Alves Toco
Hi Quentin! I am sending the file attached. It is in portuguese. I opened it in adobe and nvda didn’t recognize the tables. So I opened it with Microsoft word and the tables were there.
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De: Quentin Christensen
I just tried with a file in Adobe Reader 2019.008.20081 and I can read and navigate the table in this PDF file ok.
It is quite likely the way that the PDF file was made, which you'll likely only know if you were the one who created it.
If you can email it to me, I can have a look, but short of recreating the PDF from the original source, there's probably not a lot to do with an existing file.
Regards
Quentin.
On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 12:19 PM Alexandre Alves Toco <alexandretoco@...> wrote:
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Re: Reporting bugs
Quentin Christensen
Quite likely, yes. If everything is working normally except for the ding, you can probably ignore it. If something isn't working properly, at least that ding lets us know there is likely something in the log we may be able to use to track it down.
On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 4:22 PM Joseph Weakland <josephweakland@...> wrote:
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Re: Reporting bugs
i am using beta 4.2 and sometimes when i close a program i'd hear a 2 beep tone going down does that mean a nvda error got written to log?
On 11/29/2018 11:00 PM, Quentin
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Re: Reporting bugs
Quentin Christensen
The "ding" sound means that an error has been written to the log. Often whatever you were trying to do still works as the program tries a different approach and so it doesn't impact the user at all. The error sound is in Alpha and Beta versions to alert developers that there may be something which needs their attention. Kind regards Quentin.
On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 2:49 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
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Re: I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using NVDA
Gene
They aren't links any longer. they are
clickable items and you need to have clickable announcement on if you want them
identified. Or you can have it off and try anything that sounds as though
it might be a clickable item to see if anything happens if you are interested in
that item. But that isn't a problem with NVDA. the page design
changed.
Gene
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From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I can't select radio buttons on a webpage using
NVDA Gene, I am running Chrome as my browser. Yes, I am talking about those items at the top. If you click on those they open to additional lists of items that can be clicked on. Most of them are no longer are identified by NVDA as links. Dan On 11/29/2018 8:23 PM, Gene wrote:
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Re: Reporting bugs
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Quentin,
I just downloaded the beta version and the only thing I get is a ding sound when I hit enter on a program. Other than that, it's working great for me.
I'm looking forward to the new release.
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Firstly thank you to everyone using the beta version of NVDA! We really appreciate the help with ensuring everything is running smoothly before the final version is released!
If you aren't using the beta and would like to try it out, you can find it at https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2018-4beta2-released/
And otherwise, I just wanted to share a quick note for anyone reporting issues, particularly those using the beta.
Regards
-- Quentin Christensen
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Re: NVDA 2018.4 Beta 2: Improved Responsiveness in Mozilla Thunderbird
Quentin Christensen
Let's start with beta2, and see if we can find what we need there first. Thanks heaps for following up! Regards Quentin.
On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 2:31 PM David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:
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Reporting bugs
Quentin Christensen
Firstly thank you to everyone using the beta version of NVDA! We really appreciate the help with ensuring everything is running smoothly before the final version is released! If you aren't using the beta and would like to try it out, you can find it at https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2018-4beta2-released/ If you'd like some more info on what a beta is, I did a little write up in the In-Process blog this week: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-28th-november-2018/ And otherwise, I just wanted to share a quick note for anyone reporting issues, particularly those using the beta. If you post "Problem doing XYZ with Beta2", the implication is that XYZ worked fine in beta1 or at least with 2018.3.2. If that is indeed the case, that's great, and really helps narrow down that we've introduced a bug. If you haven't tried XYZ in any other version, could you please either state that, or, if you have the time and inclination, try it out in 2018.3.2, so you can advise that yes it used to work, or no it was an issue previously. There's absolutely nothing wrong with reporting an issue which has always been there, but which you've only just noticed, but reading some of the recent posts, it can be unclear as to whether something is definitely a newly introduced bug. Regards Quentin. Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: NVDA 2018.4 Beta 2: Improved Responsiveness in Mozilla Thunderbird
David Goldfield
Quentin, I will work on sending you a log file this weekend at the address that you provided. Do you want a log for both versions to compare or just one for 2018.4 beta 2?
David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist
WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 11/29/2018 10:29 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
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Re: NVDA 2018.4 Beta 2: Improved Responsiveness in Mozilla Thunderbird
Quentin Christensen
Thanks for your investigation! Re upgrading Windows, if you still have 2018.3.2 and it is still snappier than the newer betas, then the update to Windows won't have changed anything. If you go into your General settings (NVDA+CONTROL+G) and set the logging level to "debug", then OK. Recreate the issue - ie navigate links on a web page, then send me a copy of the log, I can have a look. You can find the log in the %temp% folder as %temp%\nvda.log You can either copy the contents into the body of a message, or attach the file to an email. If you attach the file, you will need to send it to me directly rather than back to the group here - info@.... Kind regards Quentin.
On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 1:22 PM David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:
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Re: BETA2 DOESN'T READ TABLES IN PDF DOCUMENTS
Quentin Christensen
I just tried with a file in Adobe Reader 2019.008.20081 and I can read and navigate the table in this PDF file ok. It is quite likely the way that the PDF file was made, which you'll likely only know if you were the one who created it. If you can email it to me, I can have a look, but short of recreating the PDF from the original source, there's probably not a lot to do with an existing file. Regards Quentin.
On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 12:19 PM Alexandre Alves Toco <alexandretoco@...> wrote:
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Re: Another problem.
Just hit control w to close the page, your settings will automatically save and change as you make them.
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On 11/30/2018 1:42 PM, MAX wrote:
OK. I followed the instructions and changed the settings about 2 hours ago. Now I am sitting here with chrome open on the settings page. How do I save my changes and close the page. I can’t find a thing. Please help..
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