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Re: off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

 

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 10:16 PM, zahra wrote:
how can disable play store?
You cannot.  It is that simple, you cannot.  Why you seem to believe you know better about what should, and should not, be done to keep an operating system, any operating system, or piece of application software appropriately maintained than the people that created it and are tasked with it's maintenance do is a complete and utter mystery to me.

It is one thing to use controls that all end users are provided, which is fine.  It is insanity to try to do blocking not supported by settings themselves, and you constantly demand that you be allowed to do this and that others help you.  

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.

      ~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)

 

 


Re: off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

 

but i really hate updating and wish to keep my favorite versions
forever and want to have control over my android and its softwares as
i have on my windows xp and its apps.
i installe anything that i wish and disable updating and even check
for update completely to never recieve notification.
how can disable play store?

On 11/5/18, Ejaz Shah <eashah67@...> wrote:
And the largest group for visually impared Android users is the
Eyes-Free Google group. The group e-mail address is
eyes-free@... and the subscription address is
eyes-free+subscribe@....


On 05/11/2018 3:23 am, Brian Vogel wrote:
By the way, and not because I think this topic should be ended, but
because the depth of knowledge is deeper there, the Blindphones group
is a great place to ask about all of this:

* Post: blindphones@groups.io <mailto:blindphones@groups.io>
* Subscribe: blindphones+subscribe@groups.io
<mailto:blindphones+subscribe@groups.io>
* Unsubscribe: blindphones+unsubscribe@groups.io
<mailto:blindphones+unsubscribe@groups.io>
* Group Owner: blindphones+owner@groups.io
<mailto:blindphones+owner@groups.io>
* Help: blindphones+help@groups.io <mailto:blindphones+help@groups.io>

--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

*/The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in
ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant lies
— easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the
covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on
September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five
minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you
have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole
country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors./*

~ Fran Lebowitz in /Ruminator/ Magazine interview with Susannah
McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)



--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

Ejaz Shah
 

And the largest group for visually impared Android users is the Eyes-Free Google group. The group e-mail address is eyes-free@... and the subscription address is eyes-free+subscribe@....


On 05/11/2018 3:23 am, Brian Vogel wrote:
By the way, and not because I think this topic should be ended, but because the depth of knowledge is deeper there, the Blindphones group is a great place to ask about all of this:

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.

      ~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)

 

 


Re: underline auto report with nvda

Abbie Taylor
 

You can configure NVDA differently in different applications. Simply go to "Configuration Profiles" in the NVDA menu. It's been a while since I've done it, but I do have NVDA speaking underline and other information in Microsoft Word. It should be pretty straightforward, but if you need help, let me know off list.
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...


Re: off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

 

By the way, and not because I think this topic should be ended, but because the depth of knowledge is deeper there, the Blindphones group is a great place to ask about all of this:

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.

      ~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)

 

 


Re: off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,

The subject clearly says off topic. Use your own logic and use the delete key and stop telling people what to do.


Why in the world would you want to remove the play store?


Not keeping apps up to date is just begging for security breaches, especially  on android. I've never understood this mentality - I can see not *automatically* updating apps, but not updating them at all, along with the software security patches? Missing out on so much. You want to keep the phone with the default apps? Good luck with talkback and not having it up to date either - which is pretty essential as it comes out with some pretty nice features you're going to be missing out on.


Might as well just get yourself a flip phone and be done.

On 2018-11-04 3:49 PM, Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote:
As the subject says: OFF TOPIC, there are other mailing lists todiscuss those topics.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Antony Stone
Sent: Sonntag, 4. November 2018 18:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

Please could you explain how to disable built-in apps such as the PlayStore?

I know how to uninstall apps which have been installed by the user, and of course you can simply not open apps which you don't want to run, but how does one disable apps which one wants to ensure have no way of doing anything on the system?


Antony.

On Sunday 04 November 2018 at 17:29:53, Peter Mallard wrote:

You can disable apps, if you do not want or use them

On 4 November 2018 4:24:16 pm Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Sorry but you can't remove anything from android phones. It's time
to accept that fact.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
zahra
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 8:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile
phone withandroid operating system?

but i never update my firefox and nvda and other programs forever
and never update them.
it means that i have freedom of choice and can select and use
anything that i wish.
but in android, i wish to completely disable any update and any
message and notification and check for update, if its not possible,
i dont wish to use internet with android to keep my apps factory
default and unchanged.

On 11/4/18, Peter Beasley <pjbeasley23@...> wrote:
I wish you would top post.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 04 November 2018 15:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile
phone withandroid operating system?

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 06:15 AM, zahra wrote:
play store download apps automaticly (i think) This is incorrect.
If you want automatic updates, and for security reasons alone you
should, you can set apps up to auto-update. You can, however, not
set them up this way, and you will be asked and can accept/reject.

The fact of the matter is, regardless of platform, you, for any
you, do not have the choice to use your favored version of anything
"forever." It's foolhardy to try, too.
--
It is also possible that putting the birds in a laboratory setting inadvertently renders them relatively incompetent.

- Daniel C Dennett

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.






Re: off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

As the subject says: OFF TOPIC, there are other mailing lists todiscuss those topics.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Antony Stone
Sent: Sonntag, 4. November 2018 18:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

Please could you explain how to disable built-in apps such as the PlayStore?

I know how to uninstall apps which have been installed by the user, and of course you can simply not open apps which you don't want to run, but how does one disable apps which one wants to ensure have no way of doing anything on the system?


Antony.

On Sunday 04 November 2018 at 17:29:53, Peter Mallard wrote:

You can disable apps, if you do not want or use them

On 4 November 2018 4:24:16 pm Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Sorry but you can't remove anything from android phones. It's time
to accept that fact.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
zahra
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 8:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile
phone withandroid operating system?

but i never update my firefox and nvda and other programs forever
and never update them.
it means that i have freedom of choice and can select and use
anything that i wish.
but in android, i wish to completely disable any update and any
message and notification and check for update, if its not possible,
i dont wish to use internet with android to keep my apps factory
default and unchanged.

On 11/4/18, Peter Beasley <pjbeasley23@...> wrote:
I wish you would top post.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 04 November 2018 15:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile
phone withandroid operating system?

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 06:15 AM, zahra wrote:
play store download apps automaticly (i think) This is incorrect.
If you want automatic updates, and for security reasons alone you
should, you can set apps up to auto-update. You can, however, not
set them up this way, and you will be asked and can accept/reject.

The fact of the matter is, regardless of platform, you, for any
you, do not have the choice to use your favored version of anything
"forever." It's foolhardy to try, too.
--
It is also possible that putting the birds in a laboratory setting inadvertently renders them relatively incompetent.

- Daniel C Dennett

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.


Re: mods close this thread Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

 

Stop complaining and use the mute topic feature.  It's  not all about you!
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.

      ~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)

 

 


mods close this thread Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

Davy Cuppens
 

People please go on talking about this private. This is a NVDA list.
No problem that the question was asked but as it was stated as offtopic, react then also offtopic.
Davy

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
From: Antony Stone
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 6:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

Please could you explain how to disable built-in apps such as the PlayStore?

I know how to uninstall apps which have been installed by the user, and of
course you can simply not open apps which you don't want to run, but how does
one disable apps which one wants to ensure have no way of doing anything on
the system?


Antony.

On Sunday 04 November 2018 at 17:29:53, Peter Mallard wrote:

You can disable apps, if you do not want or use them

On 4 November 2018 4:24:16 pm Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Sorry but you can't remove anything from android phones. It's time to
accept that fact.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 8:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone
withandroid operating system?

but i never update my firefox and nvda and other programs forever and
never update them.
it means that i have freedom of choice and can select and use anything
that i wish.
but in android, i wish to completely disable any update and any message
and notification and check for update, if its not possible, i dont wish
to use internet with android to keep my apps factory default and
unchanged.

On 11/4/18, Peter Beasley <pjbeasley23@...> wrote:
I wish you would top post.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 04 November 2018 15:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone
withandroid operating system?

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 06:15 AM, zahra wrote:
play store download apps automaticly (i think) This is incorrect. If
you want automatic updates, and for security reasons alone you should,
you can set apps up to auto-update. You can, however, not set them up
this way, and you will be asked and can accept/reject.

The fact of the matter is, regardless of platform, you, for any you,
do not have the choice to use your favored version of anything
"forever." It's foolhardy to try, too.
--
It is also possible that putting the birds in a laboratory setting
inadvertently renders them relatively incompetent.

- Daniel C Dennett

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.


Re: off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

Antony Stone
 

Please could you explain how to disable built-in apps such as the PlayStore?

I know how to uninstall apps which have been installed by the user, and of
course you can simply not open apps which you don't want to run, but how does
one disable apps which one wants to ensure have no way of doing anything on
the system?


Antony.

On Sunday 04 November 2018 at 17:29:53, Peter Mallard wrote:

You can disable apps, if you do not want or use them

On 4 November 2018 4:24:16 pm Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Sorry but you can't remove anything from android phones. It's time to
accept that fact.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 8:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone
withandroid operating system?

but i never update my firefox and nvda and other programs forever and
never update them.
it means that i have freedom of choice and can select and use anything
that i wish.
but in android, i wish to completely disable any update and any message
and notification and check for update, if its not possible, i dont wish
to use internet with android to keep my apps factory default and
unchanged.

On 11/4/18, Peter Beasley <pjbeasley23@...> wrote:
I wish you would top post.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 04 November 2018 15:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone
withandroid operating system?

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 06:15 AM, zahra wrote:
play store download apps automaticly (i think) This is incorrect. If
you want automatic updates, and for security reasons alone you should,
you can set apps up to auto-update. You can, however, not set them up
this way, and you will be asked and can accept/reject.

The fact of the matter is, regardless of platform, you, for any you,
do not have the choice to use your favored version of anything
"forever." It's foolhardy to try, too.
--
It is also possible that putting the birds in a laboratory setting
inadvertently renders them relatively incompetent.

- Daniel C Dennett

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.


Re: off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

Peter Mallard
 

You can disable apps, if you do not want or use them



On 4 November 2018 4:24:16 pm "Rosemarie Chavarria"
<knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Sorry but you can't remove anything from android phones. It's time to
accept that fact.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 8:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone
withandroid operating system?

but i never update my firefox and nvda and other programs forever and never
update them.
it means that i have freedom of choice and can select and use anything that
i wish.
but in android, i wish to completely disable any update and any message and
notification and check for update, if its not possible, i dont wish to use
internet with android to keep my apps factory default and unchanged.

On 11/4/18, Peter Beasley <pjbeasley23@...> wrote:
I wish you would top post.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 04 November 2018 15:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone
withandroid operating system?

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 06:15 AM, zahra wrote:
play store download apps automaticly (i think) This is incorrect. If
you want automatic updates, and for security reasons alone you should,
you can set apps up to auto-update. You can, however, not set them up
this way, and you will be asked and can accept/reject.

The fact of the matter is, regardless of platform, you, for any you,
do not have the choice to use your favored version of anything
"forever." It's foolhardy to try, too.

--
Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 The
terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in
ignorance. Huge. We now have a country that can be told blatant lies
— easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the
covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on
September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five
minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have
faith in the public?
This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J.
Simpson jurors.
~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah
McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)








--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali







Re: off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

Gene
 

I don't know how many people top post on lists composed generally of sighted users.  I saw an Internet discussion awhile ago indicating that top posting may be becoming more popular.  But on the lists of blind users I follow, this problem is greatly reduced because top posts are generally above the message being responded to. 
 
Since I don't use e-mail lists with vision, I don't know why bottom posting is popular among sighted people.  I don't recall ever seeing that discussed.
 
Gene
----- original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Gene wrote:
Reading one sentence or a phrase from the original and having the response immediately below that is not a problem.
In fact, it is preferable.   The custom of top posting a response and having an almost endless trail of quoted material below, which often requires extensive review to even figure out to whom or about what a specific response is being made, is maddening.

I have said it before and I will say it again:  Those who don't like the quotation of a line or two for context retention will just have to deal with it, as I have no intention whatsoever of changing a decades long use of a standard convention.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.

      ~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)

 

 


Re: off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

 

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Gene wrote:
Reading one sentence or a phrase from the original and having the response immediately below that is not a problem.
In fact, it is preferable.   The custom of top posting a response and having an almost endless trail of quoted material below, which often requires extensive review to even figure out to whom or about what a specific response is being made, is maddening.

I have said it before and I will say it again:  Those who don't like the quotation of a line or two for context retention will just have to deal with it, as I have no intention whatsoever of changing a decades long use of a standard convention.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.

      ~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)

 

 


Re: off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

Gene
 

Only the relevant sentence or phrase is retained before the answer.  This is not bottom posting in the way most people do, where they leave the whole message or all messages in a message and post a message below all that.  Reading one sentence or a phrase from the original and having the response immediately below that is not a problem.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

I wish you would top post.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 04 November 2018 15:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

 

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 06:15 AM, zahra wrote:

play store download apps automaticly (i think)

This is incorrect.  If you want automatic updates, and for security reasons alone you should, you can set apps up to auto-update.  You can, however, not set them up this way, and you will be asked and can accept/reject.

The fact of the matter is, regardless of platform, you, for any you, do not have the choice to use your favored version of anything "forever."  It's foolhardy to try, too.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.

      ~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)

 

 

 


Re: off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Sorry but you can't remove anything from android phones. It's time to accept that fact.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 8:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

but i never update my firefox and nvda and other programs forever and never update them.
it means that i have freedom of choice and can select and use anything that i wish.
but in android, i wish to completely disable any update and any message and notification and check for update, if its not possible, i dont wish to use internet with android to keep my apps factory default and unchanged.

On 11/4/18, Peter Beasley <pjbeasley23@...> wrote:
I wish you would top post.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 04 November 2018 15:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone
withandroid operating system?

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 06:15 AM, zahra wrote:
play store download apps automaticly (i think) This is incorrect. If
you want automatic updates, and for security reasons alone you should,
you can set apps up to auto-update. You can, however, not set them up
this way, and you will be asked and can accept/reject.

The fact of the matter is, regardless of platform, you, for any you,
do not have the choice to use your favored version of anything
"forever." It's foolhardy to try, too.

--
Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 The
terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in
ignorance. Huge. We now have a country that can be told blatant lies
— easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the
covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on
September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five
minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public?
This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J.
Simpson jurors.
~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah
McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)








--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

 

but i never update my firefox and nvda and other programs forever and
never update them.
it means that i have freedom of choice and can select and use anything
that i wish.
but in android, i wish to completely disable any update and any
message and notification and check for update, if its not possible, i
dont wish to use internet with android to keep my apps factory default
and unchanged.

On 11/4/18, Peter Beasley <pjbeasley23@...> wrote:
I wish you would top post.

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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 04 November 2018 15:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone
withandroid operating system?

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 06:15 AM, zahra wrote:
play store download apps automaticly (i think)
This is incorrect.  If you want automatic updates, and for security reasons
alone you should, you can set apps up to auto-update.  You can, however, not
set them up this way, and you will be asked and can accept/reject.

The fact of the matter is, regardless of platform, you, for any you, do not
have the choice to use your favored version of anything "forever."  It's
foolhardy to try, too.

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Re: whois

 

No, it is not, unfortunately. You might find same results on parts of www.whois.com


I don't know yet, since I haven't tried on the main site.





On 11/4/2018 3:43 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I do not know the site, but have you  tried different browsers on it?
I'm also assuming you have tried nvda/keypad enter.

It may well be that these are in some way mouse over type  devices.
Is this a page anyone can access?
Brian

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Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2018 12:31 AM
Subject: [nvda] whois


Hello list. I have a question about whois.com. We are taking over some domains on that service. It appears to not be completely accessible. Links that look like links don't react to pressing enter, nvda + enter, or anything else. Only thing I haven't tried is using the objpad add-on. When we tried to left click, it would open volume mixer. That last is probably something not done right on our end.


Any experience any of you all have with this service is much appreciated. To be more specific, I'm speaking of the admin page. If you try to activate settings or help, nothing happens. The billing summary link works.Also, some buttons don't work on this same page, such as the renew button.









Re: off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

Peter Beasley
 

I wish you would top post.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 04 November 2018 15:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone withandroid operating system?

 

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 06:15 AM, zahra wrote:

play store download apps automaticly (i think)

This is incorrect.  If you want automatic updates, and for security reasons alone you should, you can set apps up to auto-update.  You can, however, not set them up this way, and you will be asked and can accept/reject.

The fact of the matter is, regardless of platform, you, for any you, do not have the choice to use your favored version of anything "forever."  It's foolhardy to try, too.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.

      ~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)

 

 

 


Re: off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone with android operating system?

 

On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 06:15 AM, zahra wrote:
play store download apps automaticly (i think)
This is incorrect.  If you want automatic updates, and for security reasons alone you should, you can set apps up to auto-update.  You can, however, not set them up this way, and you will be asked and can accept/reject.

The fact of the matter is, regardless of platform, you, for any you, do not have the choice to use your favored version of anything "forever."  It's foolhardy to try, too.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

The terrible state of public education has paid huge dividends in ignorance.  Huge.  We now have a country that can be told blatant lies — easily checkable, blatant lies — and I’m not talking about the covert workings of the CIA. When we have a terrorist attack, on September 11, 2001 with 19 men — 15 of them are Saudis — and five minutes later the whole country thinks they’re from Iraq — how can you have faith in the public? This is an easily checkable fact. The whole country is like the O.J. Simpson jurors.

      ~ Fran Lebowitz in Ruminator Magazine interview with Susannah McNeely (Aug/Sept 2005)

 

 


Re: off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone with android operating system?

 

hi clare and sampath thanks for your help.
for example: if i dont open play store does it try to update other
apps by default or not?
i wish complete control over my system like my windows xp and seven
which i tested for some months.

On 11/4/18, zahra a <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi gene and brian.
thanks so much for your support.
sorry for my late reply, because i was busy about my new phone in these
days.
i appreciate your supporting me.
i trust you and your group, and you know me, i am comfortable with you.
it was not easy for me to subscribe to other groups and discuss my
android questions.
i prefered trustworthy and familiar group like yours to contact and
ask my questions.
and write the subject that interested people can read and help me.
gene, security of my unwanted apps is my second concern.
more important is the subject that play store download apps
automaticly (i think) and i dont have my freedom of choice to use my
favorite version forever.
like my favorite version of nvda and firefox which i mentioned they
are the best one and i never update them.

On 10/31/18, sampath raj rao <sampath.4187@...> wrote:
Hi I am using android 7 and I have tried uninstalling such inbuilt
apps which is not possible...

Ofcourse there are other phones like MOTO and Lenovo which I felt
accessible as I have used them...



On 10/31/18, Clare Page <clare.page@...> wrote:
Hi!

I don’t use Adroid, so I don’t know anything about what to do with
unwanted
apps on that system, but I can give one bit of hopefully useful advice.
If
you don’t like apps on any smartphone, and they can’t be removed, just
don’t
open them. Built-in apps aren’t usually a security risk, but each to
their
own choice about what apps they want to use or avoid, of course!

Bye for now!

From Clare



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: mardi 30 octobre 2018 20:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone
with
android operating system?



I really doubt these apps do anything unless you somehow activate them
or
give them information or perhaps do something else. I don't have a
smart
phone and I don't know much about apps, but I receive a technology
newsletter and I have for years. I haven't once seen this subject, that
is,
just having the apps on a phone, discussed or even mentioned as a
possible
security concern. I am therefore skeptical that they are a concern. Of
course, I'll consider other comments and I'm not assuming I am right but
at
this point, I am very skeptical that these are problems.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@...>

Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 11:52 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone
with
android operating system?



Maybe it's better that you don't even get an android phone. You've
already
been told that you can't remove those programs. They're part of the
package.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
zahra
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 9:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] off topic, who can help me for buying mobile phone
with
android operating system?

using and installing apps is easy without play store.
simply i download installer file of my desired programs and install them
without forcing to have always the last versions of programs and i can
control and use my desired versions of softwares without updating them
specially automatic update!
i heard rooting phones is dangerous, but i really wish to remove this
apps
and use anything that i wish.
and while, i dont trust youtube, play store and facebook etc, i love
opensource operating system, i love espeak iven3 and wish to have it!

On 10/30/18, Antony Stone <antony.stone@...> wrote:
I don't see how you can expect to even *use* an Android phone if you
remove

the Play Store.

And, sorry, but given that the Play Store is Google's marketplace, and
that

Google owns Youtube, if you don't trust either of those, why do you
want to

get an Android phone at all?


Antony.

On Tuesday 30 October 2018 at 17:38:55, zahra wrote:

specially i wish to remove facebook and youtube and play store that i
really hate and dont trust, is it possible?

On 10/30/18, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
For the most part, Android is Android and the hardware is secondary.

You will not be able to remove most preinstalled programs, as many
are considered to be system programs. You can, of course, remove
them from your main screen(s) that you interact with, but not from
the device itself. Even going to great lengths, such as rooting
the device, to remove them gains you nothing, as system space is
not switched over to user space anyway.

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By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
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--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali
--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali