Glad I remembered one major "Houston we have a keystroke problem" with this add-on...
Control+Escape opens the Start menu/screen for those without a Windows key on their keyboards.
As soon as I installed the add-on,
I immediately changed that keystroke to NVDA+`
(grave accent/tilde to the left of the 1 on the top row of numbers on U.S. keyboards).
Hey, not too shabby of an add-on?
Jason Bratcher

Hi


The following page might be of help if it is in the case of a network
etc. It should answer most of your questions at
https://www.nvaccess.org/corporate-government/


Off my website http://www.accessibilitycentral.net under the link that
points to nz libraries it made sence if others wanted to go down that
track.




Gene nz


On 27/10/2022 1:18 pm, Aaron Casper wrote:

Hi Jackie,

I used the portable installer, unless I misunderstood, it does not
install but is unpacked and then ready to use.

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*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* {EXT} Re: [nvda] Deploying NVDA, seeing Windows 10 UAC
block functionality
Aaron, this sounds like NVDA is being run as a program
w/administrative privileges, which, of course, it shouldn't.

So let me ask you--did NVDA actually install to the desktop or no?

On 10/26/22, acasper@... <acasper@...> wrote:

Good Afternoon,

I've been tasked with deploying NVDA to a VDI [Virtual Desktop
Infrastructure] environment, which runs Windows 10.

While the NVDA portable install seems to work fine for me (the

person with

admin rights), no other user can run it. The application is blocked by
Windows UAC.

The error found in the event logs is as follows:
The process failed to handle ERROR_ELEVATION_REQUIRED during the

creation of

a child process.

This seems to indicate that NVDA is trying to elevate itself without
permissions.

Can someone clarify why this might happen, and what steps we can take
to
enable use of this tool? We cannot disable UAC or limit it's current
functionality due to security policies.

Thank you,

Aaron Casper

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It's up, Brian. There are just things that the portable version can't
do that make using it pretty difficult for the average user, ie, they
can't sign into the login screen, they cant interact w/uac, etc. Yes,
they can turn on Narrator for those things, but that's a productivity
killer & a half.

On 10/26/22, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi


The following page might be of help if it is in the case of a network
etc. It should answer most of your questions at
https://www.nvaccess.org/corporate-government/


Off my website http://www.accessibilitycentral.net under the link that
points to nz libraries it made sence if others wanted to go down that
track.




Gene nz


On 27/10/2022 1:18 pm, Aaron Casper wrote:

Hi Jackie,

I used the portable installer, unless I misunderstood,  it does not
install but is unpacked and then ready to use.

Sent from my Metro by T-Mobile Device
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*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Jackie
<abletec@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 26, 2022 6:44:13 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* {EXT} Re: [nvda] Deploying NVDA, seeing Windows 10 UAC
block functionality
Aaron, this sounds like NVDA is being run as a program
w/administrative privileges, which, of course, it shouldn't.

So let me ask you--did NVDA actually install to the desktop or no?

On 10/26/22, acasper@... <acasper@...> wrote:

Good Afternoon,

I've been tasked with deploying NVDA to a VDI [Virtual Desktop
Infrastructure]  environment, which runs Windows 10.

While the NVDA portable install seems to work fine for me (the

person with

admin rights), no other user can run it.  The application is blocked by
Windows UAC.

The error found in the event logs is as follows:
The process failed to handle ERROR_ELEVATION_REQUIRED during the

creation of

a child process.

This seems to indicate that NVDA is trying to elevate itself without
permissions.

Can someone clarify why this might happen, and what steps we can take
to
enable use of this tool?  We cannot disable UAC or limit it's current
functionality due to security policies.

Thank you,

Aaron Casper

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Hi


The following page might be of help if it is in the case of a network
etc. It should answer most of your questions at
https://www.nvaccess.org/corporate-government/


Off my website http://www.accessibilitycentral.net under the link that
points to nz libraries it made sence if others wanted to go down that
track.




Gene nz


On 27/10/2022 1:18 pm, Aaron Casper wrote:

Hi Jackie,

I used the portable installer, unless I misunderstood,  it does not
install but is unpacked and then ready to use.

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*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Jackie
<abletec@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 26, 2022 6:44:13 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* {EXT} Re: [nvda] Deploying NVDA, seeing Windows 10 UAC
block functionality
Aaron, this sounds like NVDA is being run as a program
w/administrative privileges, which, of course, it shouldn't.

So let me ask you--did NVDA actually install to the desktop or no?

On 10/26/22, acasper@... <acasper@...> wrote:

Good Afternoon,

I've been tasked with deploying NVDA to a VDI [Virtual Desktop
Infrastructure]  environment, which runs Windows 10.

While the NVDA portable install seems to work fine for me (the

person with

admin rights), no other user can run it.  The application is blocked by
Windows UAC.

The error found in the event logs is as follows:
The process failed to handle ERROR_ELEVATION_REQUIRED during the

creation of

a child process.

This seems to indicate that NVDA is trying to elevate itself without
permissions.

Can someone clarify why this might happen, and what steps we can take
to
enable use of this tool?  We cannot disable UAC or limit it's current
functionality due to security policies.

Thank you,

Aaron Casper

--
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Hi all,

Not sure whether this is a new development, or whether I've simply not noticed the behaviour previously and have been slow on the uptake.

When I input text via a braille display, there now appears to be a start and end symbol or shape, which looks like p, and th, with dots 7 and 8 added. I don't recall this being present before, and it certainly can make it challenging to proofread, and a deal-breaker for recommending  this to younger users.

It occurs regardless of the braille grade/code, and with add-ons disabled. Can anybody replicate, and/or tell me how to disable this? It doesn't happen when using JAWS. For reference, I'm using the BrailleSense/HIMS driver over USB.

Thanks.


Sam.

Hi Jackie,

I used the portable installer, unless I misunderstood,  it does not install but is unpacked and then ready to use.

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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: {EXT} Re: [nvda] Deploying NVDA, seeing Windows 10 UAC block functionality

 

Aaron, this sounds like NVDA is being run as a program
w/administrative privileges, which, of course, it shouldn't.

So let me ask you--did NVDA actually install to the desktop or no?

On 10/26/22, acasper@... <acasper@...> wrote:
> Good Afternoon,
>
> I've been tasked with deploying NVDA to a VDI [Virtual Desktop
> Infrastructure]  environment, which runs Windows 10.
>
> While the NVDA portable install seems to work fine for me (the person with
> admin rights), no other user can run it.  The application is blocked by
> Windows UAC.
>
> The error found in the event logs is as follows:
> The process failed to handle ERROR_ELEVATION_REQUIRED during the creation of
> a child process.
>
> This seems to indicate that NVDA is trying to elevate itself without
> permissions.
>
> Can someone clarify why this might happen, and what steps we can take to
> enable use of this tool?  We cannot disable UAC or limit it's current
> functionality due to security policies.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Aaron Casper
>
>
>
>
>
>


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On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 08:18 PM, Aaron Casper wrote:

I used the portable installer, unless I misunderstood,  it does not
install but is unpacked and then ready to use.

-
I'll split hairs for clarity:  You used the NVDA installer to create a
portable version which, as you noted, is not installed because no registry
entries are made.  All of the bits and bobs NVDA needs to use are unpacked
into the folder of your choosing (which can be on the system drive, but that
still doesn't make it installed) and everything it needs to run is contained
there.

I honestly have no idea why you'd get any UIA warning for NVDA, portable or
installed, unless you were requesting that it be active on the login screen,
and that's supported under Windows unless some specialty blocking has been
imposed by your IT department.

But this could also be a complication of VDI, which I don't know enough
about to comment about further.

I would try actually installing if you have that option to see if that makes
any difference.
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themselves by making themselves feel better than others.*

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Aaron, this sounds like NVDA is being run as a program
w/administrative privileges, which, of course, it shouldn't.

So let me ask you--did NVDA actually install to the desktop or no?

On 10/26/22, acasper@... <acasper@...> wrote:

Good Afternoon,

I've been tasked with deploying NVDA to a VDI [Virtual Desktop
Infrastructure]  environment, which runs Windows 10.

While the NVDA portable install seems to work fine for me (the person
with
admin rights), no other user can run it.  The application is blocked by
Windows UAC.

The error found in the event logs is as follows:
The process failed to handle ERROR_ELEVATION_REQUIRED during the creation
of
a child process.

This seems to indicate that NVDA is trying to elevate itself without
permissions.

Can someone clarify why this might happen, and what steps we can take to
enable use of this tool?  We cannot disable UAC or limit it's current
functionality due to security policies.

Thank you,

Aaron Casper

--
Jackie McBride
Be a hero. Fight Scams. Learn how at www.scam911.org
Also check out brightstarsweb.com & mysitesbeenhacked.com

Good Afternoon,

I've been tasked with deploying NVDA to a VDI [Virtual Desktop
Infrastructure]  environment, which runs Windows 10.

While the NVDA portable install seems to work fine for me (the person with
admin rights), no other user can run it.  The application is blocked by
Windows UAC.

The error found in the event logs is as follows:
The process failed to handle ERROR_ELEVATION_REQUIRED during the creation of
a child process.

This seems to indicate that NVDA is trying to elevate itself without
permissions.

Can someone clarify why this might happen, and what steps we can take to
enable use of this tool?  We cannot disable UAC or limit it's current
functionality due to security policies.

Thank you,

Aaron Casper

Yes, it is checked and I  pressed nvda+ctrl+c after checking the box on Monday. yet Tuesday  the box was unchecked again.

On 10/25/2022 5:39 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

As well as Brian's suggestions, is "Save configuration on exit" checked on the general settings screen (the same screen as you're looking on for starting on the logon screen etc)?  If it isn't checked, then that's why your 

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 2:33 AM Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:

She is an older lady who only knows to shut it off. it happened yesterday and again today.

On 10/25/2022 9:30 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

How is she restarting the PC?  And that's a serious question, as Restart always forces Windows to reload from scratch from the disk, while doing a Shutdown and powering up again may not if Fast Startup is enabled on the system.

Though restarting is the first of the things to do in, The Most Basic Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues, it's always worth doing the remaining two, though in this case I am doubtful this will result in a fix.  You just never know.

It sounds like the often-used technique of checking, unchecking, then checking the option again has already been tried and not worked.

Beyond that, my only recommendation would be an uninstall and reinstall of NVDA.  If that's not viable, and she knows the NVDA startup keyboard command, then keep using that for the time being.
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