Sorry, but I think there are here some misunderstanding!

TesseractOCR and NAPS2TesseractOCR are completely differents!

TesseractOCR do not use NAPS2! It uses wia-cmd-scanner to control the WIA compliant scanner and Tesseract to recognize the text found on the digitalized image...

NAPS2TesseractOCR uses NAPS2, a portable app that uses Twain or WIA compliant scanners, and an old version of Tesseract...

Now a days WIA is the standard protocol for scanners...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team

Às 06:45 de 10/08/2022, Mobeen Iqbal escreveu:

Hi.

I'm not sure what the issue could be, but when I try to use NAPS which is what this program is using in the background to scan directly to PDF, it seems to work fine. It also gives me 1 scanner choice. Surely these days we should be using twain as a standard?

Very best wishes,

Mo.

On 10/08/2022 00:58, Gene wrote:

I don't know enough about this subject to be sure that what I am saying is correct but raising the questions may be of benefit.

Is this add-on too limited?  Does it specify only WIA, or is that the result of how the scanner itself is already set up to communicate with the computer?  I wonder if the scanner doesn't work with the add-on because the scanner isn't set up to use WIA.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 4:10 PM, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:

Hello.

I have only just gotten around to trying this add-on. I am running the latest version of NVDA with Windows 10 21H2. My scanner works fine with other programs such as windows fax and scan and DocuScan. However when I try to scan a page from the scanner with this add-on, I receive the following error.

TesseractOCR  dialog  Scan error
Process wia-cmd-scanner failed:
Scanning to file C:\Users\Mobeen (dpi = 300, color mode 'GRAY', output format 'JPG')
Exception occured: Access is denied. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80070005 (E_ACCESSDENIED))

Please make sure your scanner is WIA-compliant and can scan in another application before trying again!
OK  button

I am then prompted if I want to scan another page. When I click no, the program keeps beeping with no way to cancel the process until NVDA is restarted. This is quite annoying. Is there any way around this error? Also in the next version, could you please consider adding a cancel keystroke or cancel button in a window? It would be a real shame if the only way of cancelling a scan job was to restart NVDA. As far as I know, I have all of the relevant drivers installed. It sounds like the add-on is not running with admin privileges or isn't able to save and process the image.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 08/08/2022 21:02, Rui Fontes wrote:

Hello!


One more version of tesseractOCR add-on!


This time the new feature is the multi-page scanning!


Direct link:

https://github.com/ruifontes/tesseractOCR/releases/download/2022.08/tesseractOCR-2022.08.nvda-addon


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team

Also, the beep tone while scanning has seems to be disappeared now.
Any reasons for this?
Ravi.
V.S.Ravindran.
Excuses leads to failure!””

-----Original Message-----
From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 7:32 PM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] New version of tesseractOCR

Hi,
Where do we find the multipage option?
The new option I noticed under the settings is the Password.
Thanks,
Ravi.
V.S.Ravindran.
Excuses leads to failure!””

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Aravind R
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 11:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New version of tesseractOCR

thank you very much mam. i will install and test.

On 09/08/2022, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Hello!


One more version of tesseractOCR add-on!


This time the new feature is the multi-page scanning!


Direct link:

https://github.com/ruifontes/tesseractOCR/releases/download/2022.08/te
sseractOCR-2022.08.nvda-addon


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team

for me also, it was not working yesterday and envision also failed to
recognise one tamil pdf.
I assumed the problem was with tesseract online engine itself. so used
i-stem for convertion yesterday using smsung phone.
Today, its working.

On 10/08/2022, Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@...> wrote:

Hi.

I'm not sure what the issue could be, but when I try to use NAPS which
is what this program is using in the background to scan directly to PDF,
it seems to work fine. It also gives me 1 scanner choice. Surely these
days we should be using twain as a standard?

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 10/08/2022 00:58, Gene wrote:

I don't know enough about this subject to be sure that what I am
saying is correct but raising the questions may be of benefit.

Is this add-on too limited?  Does it specify only WIA, or is that the
result of how the scanner itself is already set up to communicate with
the computer?  I wonder if the scanner doesn't work with the add-on
because the scanner isn't set up to use WIA.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 4:10 PM, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:

Hello.

I have only just gotten around to trying this add-on. I am running
the latest version of NVDA with Windows 10 21H2. My scanner works
fine with other programs such as windows fax and scan and DocuScan.
However when I try to scan a page from the scanner with this add-on,
I receive the following error.

TesseractOCR  dialog  Scan error
Process wia-cmd-scanner failed:
Scanning to file C:\Users\Mobeen (dpi = 300, color mode 'GRAY',
output format 'JPG')
Exception occured: Access is denied. (Exception from HRESULT:
0x80070005 (E_ACCESSDENIED))

Please make sure your scanner is WIA-compliant and can scan in
another application before trying again!
OK  button

I am then prompted if I want to scan another page. When I click no,
the program keeps beeping with no way to cancel the process until
NVDA is restarted. This is quite annoying. Is there any way around
this error? Also in the next version, could you please consider
adding a cancel keystroke or cancel button in a window? It would be a
real shame if the only way of cancelling a scan job was to restart
NVDA. As far as I know, I have all of the relevant drivers installed.
It sounds like the add-on is not running with admin privileges or
isn't able to save and process the image.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 08/08/2022 21:02, Rui Fontes wrote:

Hello!


One more version of tesseractOCR add-on!


This time the new feature is the multi-page scanning!


Direct link:

https://github.com/ruifontes/tesseractOCR/releases/download/2022.08/tesseractOCR-2022.08.nvda-addon




Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team

Hi.

I'm not sure what the issue could be, but when I try to use NAPS which is what this program is using in the background to scan directly to PDF, it seems to work fine. It also gives me 1 scanner choice. Surely these days we should be using twain as a standard?

Very best wishes,

Mo.

On 10/08/2022 00:58, Gene wrote:

I don't know enough about this subject to be sure that what I am saying is correct but raising the questions may be of benefit.

Is this add-on too limited?  Does it specify only WIA, or is that the result of how the scanner itself is already set up to communicate with the computer?  I wonder if the scanner doesn't work with the add-on because the scanner isn't set up to use WIA.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 4:10 PM, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:

Hello.

I have only just gotten around to trying this add-on. I am running the latest version of NVDA with Windows 10 21H2. My scanner works fine with other programs such as windows fax and scan and DocuScan. However when I try to scan a page from the scanner with this add-on, I receive the following error.

TesseractOCR  dialog  Scan error
Process wia-cmd-scanner failed:
Scanning to file C:\Users\Mobeen (dpi = 300, color mode 'GRAY', output format 'JPG')
Exception occured: Access is denied. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80070005 (E_ACCESSDENIED))

Please make sure your scanner is WIA-compliant and can scan in another application before trying again!
OK  button

I am then prompted if I want to scan another page. When I click no, the program keeps beeping with no way to cancel the process until NVDA is restarted. This is quite annoying. Is there any way around this error? Also in the next version, could you please consider adding a cancel keystroke or cancel button in a window? It would be a real shame if the only way of cancelling a scan job was to restart NVDA. As far as I know, I have all of the relevant drivers installed. It sounds like the add-on is not running with admin privileges or isn't able to save and process the image.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 08/08/2022 21:02, Rui Fontes wrote:

Hello!


One more version of tesseractOCR add-on!


This time the new feature is the multi-page scanning!


Direct link:

https://github.com/ruifontes/tesseractOCR/releases/download/2022.08/tesseractOCR-2022.08.nvda-addon


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team

I don't know enough about this subject to be sure that what I am saying is correct but raising the questions may be of benefit.

Is this add-on too limited?  Does it specify only WIA, or is that the result of how the scanner itself is already set up to communicate with the computer?  I wonder if the scanner doesn't work with the add-on because the scanner isn't set up to use WIA.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 4:10 PM, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:

Hello.

I have only just gotten around to trying this add-on. I am running the latest version of NVDA with Windows 10 21H2. My scanner works fine with other programs such as windows fax and scan and DocuScan. However when I try to scan a page from the scanner with this add-on, I receive the following error.

TesseractOCR  dialog  Scan error
Process wia-cmd-scanner failed:
Scanning to file C:\Users\Mobeen (dpi = 300, color mode 'GRAY', output format 'JPG')
Exception occured: Access is denied. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80070005 (E_ACCESSDENIED))

Please make sure your scanner is WIA-compliant and can scan in another application before trying again!
OK  button

I am then prompted if I want to scan another page. When I click no, the program keeps beeping with no way to cancel the process until NVDA is restarted. This is quite annoying. Is there any way around this error? Also in the next version, could you please consider adding a cancel keystroke or cancel button in a window? It would be a real shame if the only way of cancelling a scan job was to restart NVDA. As far as I know, I have all of the relevant drivers installed. It sounds like the add-on is not running with admin privileges or isn't able to save and process the image.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 08/08/2022 21:02, Rui Fontes wrote:

Hello!


One more version of tesseractOCR add-on!


This time the new feature is the multi-page scanning!


Direct link:

https://github.com/ruifontes/tesseractOCR/releases/download/2022.08/tesseractOCR-2022.08.nvda-addon


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team

When I posted the original question I indicated that I was running the
latest released version of Win 10 and NVDA.  I was not talking about the
Windows update screen but not being able to work through the entries in
such folders as the documents and download folders.  It appears that
this is a NvDA issue as closing and restarting NVDA seems to resolve the
issue but I could be wrong about that.

On 8/14/2022 11:10 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 11:56 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

    This is more pronounced on Windows 11 21H2 (original release; I
    know, this will get complicated for a whiel), resolved in upcoming
    Windows 11 22H2 (for this reason, I stronlgy recommend anyone
    running Windows 10 and 11 to tell us exactly which release they are
    using so people will not get confused).

-
And I thank you for pointing out, and very clearly, that there are times
when something is Windows-based, and under which specific Windows
versions those issues occur.

This also points out why, in the age of Windows As A Service, that
keeping up-to-date is important.  Things identified as issues do get
fixed, but that fix comes in the form of an update, very often a Feature
Update.

I really would encourage those interested in having the information
about Windows (and/or NVDA and/or anything else they think pertinent) as
a part of every message they post to Groups.io to look into the
Signature feature on your personal Groups.io Subscription page.  You can
choose to have that signature attached when posting from the web,
posting using email, or both.  I've been including my Windows
information for years now after my name in my signature, so that exact
version and build information is available when it's needed.  I don't do
the same for NVDA because the versions change more frequently and 6-8
characters is not terribly difficult to type when that information needs
to be shared.
--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*/The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his
ability to express powerful meanings indirectly./*

~ Vance Packard

.

Unsurprisingly (at least to me) the issue identified in the topic has been recognized by the developer of the Mozilla Apps Enhancements add-on and a fix is already in the pipeline, but not yet released.  For details, see the topic: 

Mozilla Inhancment add-on

 in the NVDA Add-Ons Development group.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard

On 8/14/2022 11:10 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 11:56 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

This is more pronounced on Windows 11 21H2 (original release; I
know, this will get complicated for a whiel), resolved in upcoming
Windows 11 22H2 (for this reason, I stronlgy recommend anyone
running Windows 10 and 11 to tell us exactly which release they are
using so people will not get confused).

-
And I thank you for pointing out, and very clearly, that there are times
when something is Windows-based, and under which specific Windows
versions those issues occur.

This also points out why, in the age of Windows As A Service, that
keeping up-to-date is important.  Things identified as issues do get
fixed, but that fix comes in the form of an update, very often a Feature
Update.

I really would encourage those interested in having the information
about Windows (and/or NVDA and/or anything else they think pertinent) as
a part of every message they post to Groups.io to look into the
Signature feature on your personal Groups.io Subscription page.  You can
choose to have that signature attached when posting from the web,
posting using email, or both.  I've been including my Windows
information for years now after my name in my signature, so that exact
version and build information is available when it's needed.  I don't do
the same for NVDA because the versions change more frequently and 6-8
characters is not terribly difficult to type when that information needs
to be shared.
--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*/The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his
ability to express powerful meanings indirectly./*

~ Vance Packard

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ravindran V.S." <ravivssl@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2022 4:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't read items in folder


Agree.

The Windows update settings window is some what bothering with the latest versions. I am afraid whether this has been caused by NVDA or the Windows itself.

The recent update window does not leave the NVDA focus stable, the list of updates keeps moving away from the focus automatically.

Some times it is difficult to see the list of update items and their progress level cannot be read with NVDA.

The focus moves to the Pause button instead of the list.

So Tab and Shift+Tab several times would help to some what find the required details.

It would be more helpful if we can have a standard way with NVDA in these windows.



Thanks,

Ravi.

V.S.Ravindran.

Excuses leads to failure!””



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Russell James
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2022 4:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't read items in folder



I have had similar experiences with things like the Windows Update window

Usually when it first opens it says the last time it was updated

However, it is not accessible to the mouse or arrow keys

Then if I use the tab key it seems to put it into focus and the window becomes accessible



I have also had to get used to something similar while editing email messages.

However, I don't know what triggers the problem...

Sometimes it is like the message edit box goes out of focus

Then the arrow keys stop speaking the text being edited

If I force the focus to somewhere else like the subject field and come back to the edit box it works properly again



I have only been having these problems in more recent versions of NVDA.

This probably started about a year or so ago...



Russ



On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 6:25 PM Don H <lmddh50@... <mailto:lmddh50@...> > wrote:

Running latest releases of Win 10 and NVDA.
On a random basis I can open a folder such as my documents or downloads
and it appears on the screen to be normal. However I can not read the
files and folders by either using first letter or up and down arrows. I
try closing the folder and open it again with same results. So far the
only way I have found to solve the problem is to close and restart
NVDA.On some instances I have to close and restart NVDA more than once
to resolve the problem. Is there a better way to handle this problem
when it happens?
Thanks

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Russell James
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2022 4:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't read items in folder