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Re: Can we use SPSS and NVIVO with NVDA?

zhu bonie
 

Hi! Thanks for your kind sharing! What does GUI mean?


Re: Can we use SPSS and NVIVO with NVDA?

zhu bonie
 

Hi! Thanks for your kind sharing! But what does GUI mean? Additionally, I don't know how to code in SPSS.


Re: Can we use SPSS and NVIVO with NVDA?

zhu bonie
 

Hi! Thanks for your kind advice and wishes!


Re: Error with New version of tesseractOCR add-on

Mobeen Iqbal
 

Hi Rui.

My apologies, I have 2 of your add-ons installed at the same time hence the misunderstanding. I have removed the old one that used to use naps, but I am still receiving the error. Is there anything else I can try to get scanning working? Is there anywhere I can specify which driver the program uses? Maybe that would help. I have tried checking the box in settings that says ask for password, that did not help. The beeping also continues as I mentioned previously after the error, and the only way of resolving this is to restart NVDA.

Kind regards,

Mo.


On 14/08/2022 23:33, Rui Fontes wrote:

Sorry, but I think there are here some misunderstanding!


TesseractOCR and NAPS2TesseractOCR are completely differents!

TesseractOCR do not use NAPS2! It uses wia-cmd-scanner to control the WIA compliant scanner and Tesseract to recognize the text found on the digitalized image...


NAPS2TesseractOCR uses NAPS2, a portable app that uses Twain or WIA compliant scanners, and an old version of Tesseract...


Now a days WIA is the standard protocol for scanners...


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team



Às 06:45 de 10/08/2022, Mobeen Iqbal escreveu:

Hi.

I'm not sure what the issue could be, but when I try to use NAPS which is what this program is using in the background to scan directly to PDF, it seems to work fine. It also gives me 1 scanner choice. Surely these days we should be using twain as a standard?

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 10/08/2022 00:58, Gene wrote:
I don't know enough about this subject to be sure that what I am saying is correct but raising the questions may be of benefit.

Is this add-on too limited?  Does it specify only WIA, or is that the result of how the scanner itself is already set up to communicate with the computer?  I wonder if the scanner doesn't work with the add-on because the scanner isn't set up to use WIA.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 4:10 PM, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:
Hello.

I have only just gotten around to trying this add-on. I am running the latest version of NVDA with Windows 10 21H2. My scanner works fine with other programs such as windows fax and scan and DocuScan. However when I try to scan a page from the scanner with this add-on, I receive the following error.

TesseractOCR  dialog  Scan error
Process wia-cmd-scanner failed:
Scanning to file C:\Users\Mobeen (dpi = 300, color mode 'GRAY', output format 'JPG')
Exception occured: Access is denied. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80070005 (E_ACCESSDENIED))

Please make sure your scanner is WIA-compliant and can scan in another application before trying again!
OK  button

I am then prompted if I want to scan another page. When I click no, the program keeps beeping with no way to cancel the process until NVDA is restarted. This is quite annoying. Is there any way around this error? Also in the next version, could you please consider adding a cancel keystroke or cancel button in a window? It would be a real shame if the only way of cancelling a scan job was to restart NVDA. As far as I know, I have all of the relevant drivers installed. It sounds like the add-on is not running with admin privileges or isn't able to save and process the image.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 08/08/2022 21:02, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!


One more version of tesseractOCR add-on!


This time the new feature is the multi-page scanning!


Direct link:

https://github.com/ruifontes/tesseractOCR/releases/download/2022.08/tesseractOCR-2022.08.nvda-addon


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team














Re: New version of tesseractOCR

Rui Fontes
 

Hi!


You found out the multipage option! 😊


We have not removed the beeps...

In what situation you do not hear the beeps?


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 15:57 de 11/08/2022, Ravindran V.S. escreveu:

Also, the beep tone while scanning has seems to be disappeared now.
Any reasons for this?
Ravi.
V.S.Ravindran.
Excuses leads to failure!””

-----Original Message-----
From: Ravindran V.S. <Ravivssl@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 7:32 PM
To: 'nvda@nvda.groups.io' <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [nvda] New version of tesseractOCR

Hi,
Where do we find the multipage option?
The new option I noticed under the settings is the Password.
Thanks,
Ravi.
V.S.Ravindran.
Excuses leads to failure!””

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Aravind R
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 11:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New version of tesseractOCR

thank you very much mam. i will install and test.

On 09/08/2022, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
Hello!


One more version of tesseractOCR add-on!


This time the new feature is the multi-page scanning!


Direct link:

https://github.com/ruifontes/tesseractOCR/releases/download/2022.08/te
sseractOCR-2022.08.nvda-addon


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team








Re: Error with New version of tesseractOCR add-on

Rui Fontes
 

Sorry, but here is another misunderstanding!

TesseractOCR works totally offline!


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 06:54 de 10/08/2022, Aravind R escreveu:

for me also, it was not working yesterday and envision also failed to
recognise one tamil pdf.
I assumed the problem was with tesseract online engine itself. so used
i-stem for convertion yesterday using smsung phone.
Today, its working.

On 10/08/2022, Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@...> wrote:
Hi.

I'm not sure what the issue could be, but when I try to use NAPS which
is what this program is using in the background to scan directly to PDF,
it seems to work fine. It also gives me 1 scanner choice. Surely these
days we should be using twain as a standard?

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 10/08/2022 00:58, Gene wrote:
I don't know enough about this subject to be sure that what I am
saying is correct but raising the questions may be of benefit.

Is this add-on too limited?  Does it specify only WIA, or is that the
result of how the scanner itself is already set up to communicate with
the computer?  I wonder if the scanner doesn't work with the add-on
because the scanner isn't set up to use WIA.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 4:10 PM, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:
Hello.

I have only just gotten around to trying this add-on. I am running
the latest version of NVDA with Windows 10 21H2. My scanner works
fine with other programs such as windows fax and scan and DocuScan.
However when I try to scan a page from the scanner with this add-on,
I receive the following error.

TesseractOCR  dialog  Scan error
Process wia-cmd-scanner failed:
Scanning to file C:\Users\Mobeen (dpi = 300, color mode 'GRAY',
output format 'JPG')
Exception occured: Access is denied. (Exception from HRESULT:
0x80070005 (E_ACCESSDENIED))

Please make sure your scanner is WIA-compliant and can scan in
another application before trying again!
OK  button

I am then prompted if I want to scan another page. When I click no,
the program keeps beeping with no way to cancel the process until
NVDA is restarted. This is quite annoying. Is there any way around
this error? Also in the next version, could you please consider
adding a cancel keystroke or cancel button in a window? It would be a
real shame if the only way of cancelling a scan job was to restart
NVDA. As far as I know, I have all of the relevant drivers installed.
It sounds like the add-on is not running with admin privileges or
isn't able to save and process the image.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 08/08/2022 21:02, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!


One more version of tesseractOCR add-on!


This time the new feature is the multi-page scanning!


Direct link:

https://github.com/ruifontes/tesseractOCR/releases/download/2022.08/tesseractOCR-2022.08.nvda-addon




Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team












Re: Error with New version of tesseractOCR add-on

Rui Fontes
 

Sorry, but I think there are here some misunderstanding!


TesseractOCR and NAPS2TesseractOCR are completely differents!

TesseractOCR do not use NAPS2! It uses wia-cmd-scanner to control the WIA compliant scanner and Tesseract to recognize the text found on the digitalized image...


NAPS2TesseractOCR uses NAPS2, a portable app that uses Twain or WIA compliant scanners, and an old version of Tesseract...


Now a days WIA is the standard protocol for scanners...


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team



Às 06:45 de 10/08/2022, Mobeen Iqbal escreveu:

Hi.

I'm not sure what the issue could be, but when I try to use NAPS which is what this program is using in the background to scan directly to PDF, it seems to work fine. It also gives me 1 scanner choice. Surely these days we should be using twain as a standard?

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 10/08/2022 00:58, Gene wrote:
I don't know enough about this subject to be sure that what I am saying is correct but raising the questions may be of benefit.

Is this add-on too limited?  Does it specify only WIA, or is that the result of how the scanner itself is already set up to communicate with the computer?  I wonder if the scanner doesn't work with the add-on because the scanner isn't set up to use WIA.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 4:10 PM, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:
Hello.

I have only just gotten around to trying this add-on. I am running the latest version of NVDA with Windows 10 21H2. My scanner works fine with other programs such as windows fax and scan and DocuScan. However when I try to scan a page from the scanner with this add-on, I receive the following error.

TesseractOCR  dialog  Scan error
Process wia-cmd-scanner failed:
Scanning to file C:\Users\Mobeen (dpi = 300, color mode 'GRAY', output format 'JPG')
Exception occured: Access is denied. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80070005 (E_ACCESSDENIED))

Please make sure your scanner is WIA-compliant and can scan in another application before trying again!
OK  button

I am then prompted if I want to scan another page. When I click no, the program keeps beeping with no way to cancel the process until NVDA is restarted. This is quite annoying. Is there any way around this error? Also in the next version, could you please consider adding a cancel keystroke or cancel button in a window? It would be a real shame if the only way of cancelling a scan job was to restart NVDA. As far as I know, I have all of the relevant drivers installed. It sounds like the add-on is not running with admin privileges or isn't able to save and process the image.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 08/08/2022 21:02, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!


One more version of tesseractOCR add-on!


This time the new feature is the multi-page scanning!


Direct link:

https://github.com/ruifontes/tesseractOCR/releases/download/2022.08/tesseractOCR-2022.08.nvda-addon


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team














Re: Error with New version of tesseractOCR add-on

Rui Fontes
 

Yes, the add-on only works with WIA compliant scanners...


I haven't yet found a library or portable program using command line to call a Twain compliant driver...


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team


Às 00:58 de 10/08/2022, Gene escreveu:

I don't know enough about this subject to be sure that what I am saying is correct but raising the questions may be of benefit.

Is this add-on too limited?  Does it specify only WIA, or is that the result of how the scanner itself is already set up to communicate with the computer?  I wonder if the scanner doesn't work with the add-on because the scanner isn't set up to use WIA.

Gene

On 8/9/2022 4:10 PM, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:
Hello.

I have only just gotten around to trying this add-on. I am running the latest version of NVDA with Windows 10 21H2. My scanner works fine with other programs such as windows fax and scan and DocuScan. However when I try to scan a page from the scanner with this add-on, I receive the following error.

TesseractOCR  dialog  Scan error
Process wia-cmd-scanner failed:
Scanning to file C:\Users\Mobeen (dpi = 300, color mode 'GRAY', output format 'JPG')
Exception occured: Access is denied. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80070005 (E_ACCESSDENIED))

Please make sure your scanner is WIA-compliant and can scan in another application before trying again!
OK  button

I am then prompted if I want to scan another page. When I click no, the program keeps beeping with no way to cancel the process until NVDA is restarted. This is quite annoying. Is there any way around this error? Also in the next version, could you please consider adding a cancel keystroke or cancel button in a window? It would be a real shame if the only way of cancelling a scan job was to restart NVDA. As far as I know, I have all of the relevant drivers installed. It sounds like the add-on is not running with admin privileges or isn't able to save and process the image.

Very best wishes,

Mo.


On 08/08/2022 21:02, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!


One more version of tesseractOCR add-on!


This time the new feature is the multi-page scanning!


Direct link:

https://github.com/ruifontes/tesseractOCR/releases/download/2022.08/tesseractOCR-2022.08.nvda-addon


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team














Re: Unable To Display Status Bar IN Latest Thunderbird Version 102.1.1

 

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 01:07 PM, Gene wrote:
but the add-on wasn't necessary before to read the status line so this is really something Mozilla should fix in the program.
-
Possibly, but not necessarily.

There are times when exactly how something is implemented will shift.  We saw a lot of that at the time of the introduction of Windows 10, and Microsoft gave several years of warning of what was coming down the pike.  Screen reader coders then had to add code for those new ways of doing things.

It could be that there has been some sort of implementation shift for the status line.

I don't know for certain about that, but there are times when it's something that the application has accidentally screwed up, and should fix, and at other times its an application change that screen reader developers must accommodate.  So I won't say whose job it is to fix this.

If Javi Dominguez happens to be reading this topic, he could almost certainly shed light on what's actually occurred and whose responsibility "the fix" is.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard


Re: can't read items in folder

Gene
 

What happens if you open the menu with alt f, when you are in the files list, that is hold alt and press f, then press escape.  twice to close it.  Can you read the information then?  If so, that would be faster and easier than closing and running NVDA again.

Gene

On 8/14/2022 11:38 AM, Don H wrote:

When I posted the original question I indicated that I was running the
latest released version of Win 10 and NVDA.  I was not talking about the
Windows update screen but not being able to work through the entries in
such folders as the documents and download folders.  It appears that
this is a NvDA issue as closing and restarting NVDA seems to resolve the
issue but I could be wrong about that.

On 8/14/2022 11:10 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 11:56 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

    This is more pronounced on Windows 11 21H2 (original release; I
    know, this will get complicated for a whiel), resolved in upcoming
    Windows 11 22H2 (for this reason, I stronlgy recommend anyone
    running Windows 10 and 11 to tell us exactly which release they are
    using so people will not get confused).

-
And I thank you for pointing out, and very clearly, that there are times
when something is Windows-based, and under which specific Windows
versions those issues occur.

This also points out why, in the age of Windows As A Service, that
keeping up-to-date is important.  Things identified as issues do get
fixed, but that fix comes in the form of an update, very often a Feature
Update.

I really would encourage those interested in having the information
about Windows (and/or NVDA and/or anything else they think pertinent) as
a part of every message they post to Groups.io to look into the
Signature feature on your personal Groups.io Subscription page.  You can
choose to have that signature attached when posting from the web,
posting using email, or both.  I've been including my Windows
information for years now after my name in my signature, so that exact
version and build information is available when it's needed.  I don't do
the same for NVDA because the versions change more frequently and 6-8
characters is not terribly difficult to type when that information needs
to be shared.
--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*/The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his
ability to express powerful meanings indirectly./*

~ Vance Packard







.


Re: Unable To Display Status Bar IN Latest Thunderbird Version 102.1.1

Gene
 

If the problem is solved in that way, that's good, but the add-on wasn't necessary before to read the status line so this is really something Mozilla should fix in the program.

Gene

On 8/14/2022 11:31 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Unsurprisingly (at least to me) the issue identified in the topic has been recognized by the developer of the Mozilla Apps Enhancements add-on and a fix is already in the pipeline, but not yet released.  For details, see the topic: 
Mozilla Inhancment add-on
 in the NVDA Add-Ons Development group.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard



Re: can't read items in folder

 

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 12:38 PM, Don H wrote:
When I posted the original question I indicated that I was running the
latest released version of Win 10 and NVDA. I was not talking about the
Windows update screen but not being able to work through the entries in
such folders as the documents and download folders.
-
Yes, but several someones have introduced what they believe to be related issues.  It's perfectly OK for anyone to respond regarding those issues when they know something about them, but not necessarily the one you originally identified.

But you also need to realize that yours is the very first report of this particular issue that I can recall on the NVDA Group.  That really does suggest that this issue is limited, if not strictly to you then to a very small subset of NVDA users.

Whenever any suspected NVDA-related issue is encountered, the first thing to do is:  The Most Basic Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues

 


If the issue seems possibly related to Windows (and this one is clearly in that class) it never hurts, after having tried those basic troubleshooting steps, to do the following:

1. Using DISM (Deployment Imaging Servicing and Management) and SFC (System File Checker) to Repair Windows 8.1, 10 & 11

2. Performing a Windows 10 or 11 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows ISO file

If #1 fixes the issue, #2 is unnecessary.

All of these steps are part of the process of elimination and step-by-step diagnostics in order to rule-in or rule-out possible factors.

--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard


Re: can't read items in folder

Don H
 

When I posted the original question I indicated that I was running the
latest released version of Win 10 and NVDA. I was not talking about the
Windows update screen but not being able to work through the entries in
such folders as the documents and download folders. It appears that
this is a NvDA issue as closing and restarting NVDA seems to resolve the
issue but I could be wrong about that.

On 8/14/2022 11:10 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 11:56 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

This is more pronounced on Windows 11 21H2 (original release; I
know, this will get complicated for a whiel), resolved in upcoming
Windows 11 22H2 (for this reason, I stronlgy recommend anyone
running Windows 10 and 11 to tell us exactly which release they are
using so people will not get confused).

-
And I thank you for pointing out, and very clearly, that there are times
when something is Windows-based, and under which specific Windows
versions those issues occur.

This also points out why, in the age of Windows As A Service, that
keeping up-to-date is important.  Things identified as issues do get
fixed, but that fix comes in the form of an update, very often a Feature
Update.

I really would encourage those interested in having the information
about Windows (and/or NVDA and/or anything else they think pertinent) as
a part of every message they post to Groups.io to look into the
Signature feature on your personal Groups.io Subscription page.  You can
choose to have that signature attached when posting from the web,
posting using email, or both.  I've been including my Windows
information for years now after my name in my signature, so that exact
version and build information is available when it's needed.  I don't do
the same for NVDA because the versions change more frequently and 6-8
characters is not terribly difficult to type when that information needs
to be shared.
--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044

*/The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his
ability to express powerful meanings indirectly./*

~ Vance Packard


Re: Unable To Display Status Bar IN Latest Thunderbird Version 102.1.1

 

Unsurprisingly (at least to me) the issue identified in the topic has been recognized by the developer of the Mozilla Apps Enhancements add-on and a fix is already in the pipeline, but not yet released.  For details, see the topic: 
Mozilla Inhancment add-on
 in the NVDA Add-Ons Development group.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard


Re: can't read items in folder

 

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 11:56 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
This is more pronounced on Windows 11 21H2 (original release; I know, this will get complicated for a whiel), resolved in upcoming Windows 11 22H2 (for this reason, I stronlgy recommend anyone running Windows 10 and 11 to tell us exactly which release they are using so people will not get confused).
-
And I thank you for pointing out, and very clearly, that there are times when something is Windows-based, and under which specific Windows versions those issues occur.

This also points out why, in the age of Windows As A Service, that keeping up-to-date is important.  Things identified as issues do get fixed, but that fix comes in the form of an update, very often a Feature Update.

I really would encourage those interested in having the information about Windows (and/or NVDA and/or anything else they think pertinent) as a part of every message they post to Groups.io to look into the Signature feature on your personal Groups.io Subscription page.  You can choose to have that signature attached when posting from the web, posting using email, or both.  I've been including my Windows information for years now after my name in my signature, so that exact version and build information is available when it's needed.  I don't do the same for NVDA because the versions change more frequently and 6-8 characters is not terribly difficult to type when that information needs to be shared.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard


Re: can't read items in folder

 

Hi,

Windows Update screen: caused by UIA events, more so when the screen updates things. This is more pronounced on Windows 11 21H2 (original release; I know, this will get complicated for a whiel), resolved in upcoming Windows 11 22H2 (for this reason, I stronlgy recommend anyone running Windows 10 and 11 to tell us exactlu which release they are using so people will not get confused).

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: code factory voices

The Gamages
 

Hello ~Steve and #Quentin,


I have successfully updated my Code factory program, the only thing I found is that I needed to update NVDA first, obvious really but all done .


Thank you for all your assistance.


Best Regards, Jim.


On 13/08/2022 12:42, Steve Wettlaufer wrote:

The new version should install over top of the old one.  I've never had to remove the old one first.  You shouldn't have to deactivate your license key either, although some people do that just to be safe.  But generally speaking, unless you're changing something major about your system that goes far beyond an NVDA update, I've found there's no need to do that.

Steve

On 2022-08-13 6:45 a.m., The Gamages via groups.io wrote:

Hello Quentin and Steve,


Thank you for that information, I have downloaded the program and am ready to install, do I need to uninstall my license key before installing the new version?  will the new version install over the old one? in other words, do I* need to uninstal the old version before installing the new one?


Thank you for your help with all this, I am most grateful.


Best Regards, Jim.


 On 12/08/2022 13:00, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Jim,

The Code Factory voices were updated around the same time NVDA 2022.1 came out.  You can download the updated voices at: https://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/

Note if you are using any other add-ons which weren't compatible with NVDA 2022.1, please check https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html as they may also have been updated.

There is an add-on updater add-on which can help keep add-ons updated.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 9:53 PM The Gamages via groups.io <james.gamage=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello,

Some time agoI got a mnessage frrom NVDA to say that my code factory
voices would not work with the next version of NVDA, so I haven't
updated NVDA since, I have  some questions before I do something about it.


1. Do I need to purchase a new package?

2. can I just purchase a new license?

If I have to purchas a new package, will the one which is not an NVDA
add on work with NVDA?

My present package is quite old I suppose, but as it is quite an
expensive item, I am hoping that a product which is independant of NVDA
will not stop working at a later point.


Any clarification will be most appreciated, Thank you.


Best Regards, Jim.








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Training and Support Manager

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Best Regards, Jim.


Re: can't read items in folder

Brian's Mail list account
 

I don't think this is new. I've seen the files not being read and reading update history going back to Win 7. As for whether its more likely with newer nvda versions, well maybe it has been. Alt tab and alt tab back sometimes works, but at other times you seem to get into views that say a B C etcc. I have a sneaking suspicion it may be certain choices of details or how files are displayed that makes it worse though. It needs somebody with patience to work logically though only alting one thing at a time to solve these sort of problems.
There is also an allied issue where alt tab if alte it is held down and multiple programs are running you suddenly find you can only get to 2 of the running programs, and have to click on the program itself to start things working again.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ravindran V.S." <ravivssl@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2022 4:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't read items in folder


Agree.

The Windows update settings window is some what bothering with the latest versions. I am afraid whether this has been caused by NVDA or the Windows itself.

The recent update window does not leave the NVDA focus stable, the list of updates keeps moving away from the focus automatically.

Some times it is difficult to see the list of update items and their progress level cannot be read with NVDA.

The focus moves to the Pause button instead of the list.

So Tab and Shift+Tab several times would help to some what find the required details.

It would be more helpful if we can have a standard way with NVDA in these windows.



Thanks,

Ravi.

V.S.Ravindran.

Excuses leads to failure!””



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Russell James
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2022 4:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't read items in folder



I have had similar experiences with things like the Windows Update window

Usually when it first opens it says the last time it was updated

However, it is not accessible to the mouse or arrow keys

Then if I use the tab key it seems to put it into focus and the window becomes accessible



I have also had to get used to something similar while editing email messages.

However, I don't know what triggers the problem...

Sometimes it is like the message edit box goes out of focus

Then the arrow keys stop speaking the text being edited

If I force the focus to somewhere else like the subject field and come back to the edit box it works properly again



I have only been having these problems in more recent versions of NVDA.

This probably started about a year or so ago...



Russ



On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 6:25 PM Don H <lmddh50@... <mailto:lmddh50@...> > wrote:

Running latest releases of Win 10 and NVDA.
On a random basis I can open a folder such as my documents or downloads
and it appears on the screen to be normal. However I can not read the
files and folders by either using first letter or up and down arrows. I
try closing the folder and open it again with same results. So far the
only way I have found to solve the problem is to close and restart
NVDA.On some instances I have to close and restart NVDA more than once
to resolve the problem. Is there a better way to handle this problem
when it happens?
Thanks


Re: can't read items in folder

Ravindran V.S.
 

Agree.

The Windows update settings window is some what bothering with the latest versions. I am afraid whether this has been caused by NVDA or the Windows itself.

The recent update window does not leave the NVDA focus stable, the list of updates keeps moving away from the focus automatically.

Some times it is difficult to see the list of update items and their progress level cannot be read with NVDA.

The focus moves to the Pause button instead of the list.

So Tab and Shift+Tab several times would help to some what find the required details.

It would be more helpful if we can have a standard way with NVDA in these windows.

 

Thanks,

Ravi.

V.S.Ravindran.

Excuses leads to failure!””

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Russell James
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2022 4:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't read items in folder

 

I have had similar experiences with things like the Windows Update window

Usually when it first opens it says the last time it was updated

However, it is not accessible to the mouse or arrow keys

Then if I use the tab key it seems to put it into focus and the window becomes accessible

 

I have also had to get used to something similar while editing email messages.

However, I don't know what triggers the problem...

Sometimes it is like the message edit box goes out of focus

Then the arrow keys stop speaking the text being edited

If I force the focus to somewhere else like the subject field and come back to the edit box it works  properly again

 

I have only been having these problems in more recent versions of NVDA.

This probably started about a year or so ago...

 

Russ

 

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 6:25 PM Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

Running latest releases of Win 10 and NVDA.
On a random basis I can open a folder such as my documents or downloads
and it appears on the screen to be normal.  However I can not read the
files and folders by either using first letter or up and down arrows.  I
try closing the folder and open it again with same results.  So far the
only way I have found to solve the problem is to close and restart
NVDA.On some instances I have to close and restart NVDA more than once
to resolve the problem.  Is there a better way to handle this problem
when it happens?
Thanks





Re: can't read items in folder

Russell James
 

I have had similar experiences with things like the Windows Update window
Usually when it first opens it says the last time it was updated
However, it is not accessible to the mouse or arrow keys
Then if I use the tab key it seems to put it into focus and the window becomes accessible

I have also had to get used to something similar while editing email messages.
However, I don't know what triggers the problem...
Sometimes it is like the message edit box goes out of focus
Then the arrow keys stop speaking the text being edited
If I force the focus to somewhere else like the subject field and come back to the edit box it works  properly again

I have only been having these problems in more recent versions of NVDA.
This probably started about a year or so ago...

Russ


On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 6:25 PM Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
Running latest releases of Win 10 and NVDA.
On a random basis I can open a folder such as my documents or downloads
and it appears on the screen to be normal.  However I can not read the
files and folders by either using first letter or up and down arrows.  I
try closing the folder and open it again with same results.  So far the
only way I have found to solve the problem is to close and restart
NVDA.On some instances I have to close and restart NVDA more than once
to resolve the problem.  Is there a better way to handle this problem
when it happens?
Thanks