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Questions about NVDA 2018.3 emoji support.

John Isige
 

So I was playing around with emojis, and I've noticed that some of them aren't read, and some of them are read twice. To reproduce, go into the emoji panel, I'm hitting Windows-; (semicolon) in case that matters, and tab to people. I land on "woman, 1 of 175". Arrowing right I hear "woman, man, 3 of 175, girl", and so on. Now arrow back to the left until you get to woman. Hit the down arrow, and you'll get "older woman". Keep arrowing right until you hear "12 of 175". If you arrow right two times, each time you hear "man with turban" and the rising tone of a question mark. I'm pretty sure that later in the list there are three of the same thing in a row at least.


I don't know where the emoji naming comes from, if they're specified in NVDA source or they're drawing on something internal to Windows or what, but I thought I'd mention it. Incidentally, Narrator reads this just fine, I think 3 of 175 is a girl, 12 is a prince, the two things that show up as "man with turban" are a woman and a man wearing a turban, respectively, and so on. Narrator's kind of slow, if I arrow too fast I get duplicated names instead of new ones, but I don't think that's what's going on with NVDA. My other question was whether NVDA reads emojis now, the answer is yes if you read by line but not by character apparently, because I just added and deleted some from this email. So that's that solved I guess.


Sorry I didn't point this out in the RC phase, things have been crazy around here and I didn't really get a chance to do much with them other than run them and see that they didn't break anything.
Re: Update On Firefox Crashing Issue

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

I refreshed Firefox over the weekend to see if it would solve my own issue (still seems like a JAWS problem on my end and not an NVDA one). It didn't. However you can definitely do this refresh from within the options screen. Can't remember exactly where it's found; it's in there somewhere though.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: September 18, 2018 9:58 PM
To: NVDA Official Group <nvda@groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Update On Firefox Crashing Issue

Hi Group,


I am now running the Firefox 64 bit version of Firefox on my 64 bit Windows 10 system. (Is there a 32 bit version of Windows 10?) In any case, I was still getting periodic crashes and lock ups. I did a Firefox refresh. This is supposed to return Firefox and any add ons to their default state. According to an article on Firefox support, you are supposed to be able to do this somehow from the help/about screen. I did not see it there. Maybe its hidden from screen reader access somehow. In any case, you will have a link to doing this on the following page.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/refresh-firefox-reset-add-ons-and-settings


Find the refresh Firefox link and follow the prompts.


This has created much more stability in
Firefox 62 64 bit and I am even hearing many audio streamd and other audio/video files. Something still doesn't seem right. It's a bit slower than it was with NVDA 2018.2 and somehow (as Commander Scott used to say on the original Star Trek series: 'Ay Captain, something doesn't feel right about the ship.) I can't quite put my finger on it, but pages load slower and arrow key navigation seems sluggish at times just a bit and on other more cluttered pages somewhat more. I am guessing, but I wonder if somehow, when the accessibility feature of Firefox is allowed under tools/options/privacy and security, that in some way, some installations of NVDA can subtly change some DLL files or other related files within Firefox itself.


This is the current status: usable, but not totally satisfactory.


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Re: Update On Firefox Crashing Issue

Quentin Christensen
 

Thanks Ron,

That's a good update.

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 11:59 AM Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:
Hi Group,


I  am now running the Firefox 64 bit version of Firefox on my 64 bit
Windows 10 system.  (Is there a 32 bit version of Windows 10?)  In any
case, I was still getting periodic crashes and lock ups.  I did a
Firefox refresh.  This is supposed to return Firefox and any add ons to
their default state.  According to an article on Firefox support, you
are supposed to be able to do this somehow from the help/about screen. 
I did not see it there.  Maybe its hidden from screen reader access
somehow.  In any case, you will have a link to doing this on the
following page.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/refresh-firefox-reset-add-ons-and-settings


Find the refresh Firefox link and follow the prompts.


This has created much more stability in
Firefox 62 64 bit and I am even hearing many audio streamd and other
audio/video files.  Something still doesn't seem right. It's a bit
slower than it was with NVDA 2018.2 and somehow (as Commander Scott used
to say on the original Star Trek series: 'Ay Captain, something doesn't
feel right about the ship.)  I can't quite put my finger on it, but
pages load slower and arrow key navigation seems sluggish at times just
a bit and on other more cluttered pages somewhat more.  I am guessing,
but I wonder if somehow, when the accessibility feature of Firefox is
allowed under tools/options/privacy and security, that in some way, some
installations of NVDA can subtly change some DLL files or other related
files within Firefox itself.


This is the current status: usable, but not totally satisfactory.


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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
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Re: Could not find remote addons under Tools

Richard Wells
 

This does work. I am using it with NVDA 2018.3 as of this writing. I tested it to make sure connection was successful. It communicates with NVDARemote.com just fine.

On 9/18/2018 8:51 PM, René Linke wrote:
Hi,

here's a patched version of this add-on.
Joseph Lee made a patch awhile ago.
This works with NVDA 2018.3.

https://www.josephsl.net/files/nvdaaddons/remote-2.1wxPy4-1807.nvda-addon

René
Update On Firefox Crashing Issue

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


I  am now running the Firefox 64 bit version of Firefox on my 64 bit Windows 10 system.  (Is there a 32 bit version of Windows 10?)  In any case, I was still getting periodic crashes and lock ups.  I did a Firefox refresh.  This is supposed to return Firefox and any add ons to their default state.  According to an article on Firefox support, you are supposed to be able to do this somehow from the help/about screen.  I did not see it there.  Maybe its hidden from screen reader access somehow.  In any case, you will have a link to doing this on the following page.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/refresh-firefox-reset-add-ons-and-settings


Find the refresh Firefox link and follow the prompts.


This has created much more stability in
Firefox 62 64 bit and I am even hearing many audio streamd and other audio/video files.  Something still doesn't seem right. It's a bit slower than it was with NVDA 2018.2 and somehow (as Commander Scott used to say on the original Star Trek series: 'Ay Captain, something doesn't feel right about the ship.)  I can't quite put my finger on it, but pages load slower and arrow key navigation seems sluggish at times just a bit and on other more cluttered pages somewhat more.  I am guessing, but I wonder if somehow, when the accessibility feature of Firefox is allowed under tools/options/privacy and security, that in some way, some installations of NVDA can subtly change some DLL files or other related files within Firefox itself.


This is the current status: usable, but not totally satisfactory.


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I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
Re: Could not find remote addons under Tools

René Linke <rene.linke@...>
 

Hi,

here's a patched version of this add-on.
Joseph Lee made a patch awhile ago.
This works with NVDA 2018.3.

https://www.josephsl.net/files/nvdaaddons/remote-2.1wxPy4-1807.nvda-addon

René
Re: NVDA 2018.3 released

Richard Wells
 

Joseph gave us a modification which I saved to Dropbox. Here it is: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3hk37slorff63rz/remote-2.1wxPy4.nvda-addon?dl=1


On 9/18/2018 5:16 AM, vlad.ciotescu@... wrote:
hello.
well, i already updated and i don't know where can i get the NVDA remote support for this version. i've heard that there is one around which is not on the NVDA remote website

Re: NVDA 2018.3 released

Joseph Lee
 

Hi,

I think not, as only Espeak NG and OneCore can indicate what emojis are, although work in under way to expand this to other synthesizers.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Wells
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2018.3 released

 

Since Emoticons speaking is native to NVDA now, should we remove the NVDA userEmoticons re... 7.1 Chris Leo <llajta2012@...... add-on?

 

On 9/17/2018 11:46 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

NV Access is pleased to announce that version 2018.3 of NVDA, the free screen reader for Microsoft Windows, has now been released.

Highlights of this release include automatic detection of many Braille displays, support for new Windows 10 features including the Windows 10 Emoji input panel, and many other bug fixes.

Read more about the release as well as NVDA Remote support, and download the new version from:

 

 

https://www.nvaccess.org/post/announcing-the-release-of-nvda-2018-3/

 

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Re: NVDA 2018.3 released

Richard Wells
 

Since Emoticons speaking is native to NVDA now, should we remove the NVDA userEmoticons re... 7.1 Chris Leo <llajta2012@...... add-on?


On 9/17/2018 11:46 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

NV Access is pleased to announce that version 2018.3 of NVDA, the free screen reader for Microsoft Windows, has now been released.

Highlights of this release include automatic detection of many Braille displays, support for new Windows 10 features including the Windows 10 Emoji input panel, and many other bug fixes.

Read more about the release as well as NVDA Remote support, and download the new version from:

 
 
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/announcing-the-release-of-nvda-2018-3/

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Re: NVDA 2018.3

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Anthony,

Did it fail with an error or because the file was corrupt (didn't download properly)?

You can redownload it from: https://www.nvaccess.org/download/ (select "Skip donation this time" unless you want to make a donation, and you don't need to enter an email address).

Otherwise, a couple of reasons it might start installing and then fail:
- Windows displays a User Account Control dialog - a dialog that appears in front of everything else which you need to respond to by pressing "Yes" for the install to continue - sometimes it appears behind everything else and you need to alt+tab to it.  If you don't respond within 30 seconds or so, it will automatically fail.

- If you have "Controlled Folder Access" turned on in Windows 10, it will install, but it will fail to create the desktop shortcut and so show a failure error.

Otherwise, if you keep encountering it, if you could give me more information, I'd be interested in trying to get to the bottom of it.

Regards

Quentin.


On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 11:22 AM anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...> wrote:

Hi quentin

While I was doing the installation of NVDA 2018.3 it failed. Could you please tell me from where I can get it to install it?

With thanks in advance

Anthony  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 19 September 2018 02:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: NVDA 2018.3

 

A couple of things to check first:

- Have you restarted the computer after updating NVDA?  If not, please try that first.

- Try restarting NVDA with addons disabled and see if the Firefox issues recur. - If so, check for latest versions of all your add-ons, and failing that, please let us know which is being problematic / which you have enabled.

- Double check that you can in fact start firefox without NVDA 2018.3 running (either with an older version of NVDA or Narrator).

- If you can get Firefox to start (perhaps with an older version of NVDA), if you go to the address bar and type:

 

about:crashes

 

If you could get me the one of the latest crash IDs (the seemingly random string of characters), I can get Mozilla to look into it.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

 

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 9:52 AM ann <tate886@...> wrote:

Hi,


I also had major issues with the newest NVDA and Firefox.


I am running a 32 bit Firefox, latest version, on the 32 bit version of
windows 10. Firefox crashes each time it's launched.


But, after reverting back to the previous version of NVDA, this never
occurs, not once.


~Ann




> firefox crash with NVDA 2018.3
> From: Clive Pallett
> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:55:52 EDT
> Hello everyone,
> I updated NVDA to 2018.3 and tried to launch firefox.  The crash
> reporter screen came up and I tried to start a new session without
> result.  I have reverted to NVDA 2018.1.1 and firefox loads normally. 
> It also does when running NVDA 2018.2 which I was running before.  I
> have the installation file of the former version on my laptop so used
> that.  I noticed someone else having issues with firefox with NVDA
> 2018.3.  Is this a problem with firefox or with NVDA?
> I will continue with NVDA 2018.1.1 until I can download the latest
> version and hope the issue with firefox is sorted.
> Best wishes,
> Clive Pallett




 

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Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



--
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Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 
Re: NVDA 2018.3

anthony borg
 

Hi quentin

While I was doing the installation of NVDA 2018.3 it failed. Could you please tell me from where I can get it to install it?

With thanks in advance

Anthony  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 19 September 2018 02:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: NVDA 2018.3

 

A couple of things to check first:

- Have you restarted the computer after updating NVDA?  If not, please try that first.

- Try restarting NVDA with addons disabled and see if the Firefox issues recur. - If so, check for latest versions of all your add-ons, and failing that, please let us know which is being problematic / which you have enabled.

- Double check that you can in fact start firefox without NVDA 2018.3 running (either with an older version of NVDA or Narrator).

- If you can get Firefox to start (perhaps with an older version of NVDA), if you go to the address bar and type:

 

about:crashes

 

If you could get me the one of the latest crash IDs (the seemingly random string of characters), I can get Mozilla to look into it.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

 

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 9:52 AM ann <tate886@...> wrote:

Hi,


I also had major issues with the newest NVDA and Firefox.


I am running a 32 bit Firefox, latest version, on the 32 bit version of
windows 10. Firefox crashes each time it's launched.


But, after reverting back to the previous version of NVDA, this never
occurs, not once.


~Ann




> firefox crash with NVDA 2018.3
> From: Clive Pallett
> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:55:52 EDT
> Hello everyone,
> I updated NVDA to 2018.3 and tried to launch firefox.  The crash
> reporter screen came up and I tried to start a new session without
> result.  I have reverted to NVDA 2018.1.1 and firefox loads normally. 
> It also does when running NVDA 2018.2 which I was running before.  I
> have the installation file of the former version on my laptop so used
> that.  I noticed someone else having issues with firefox with NVDA
> 2018.3.  Is this a problem with firefox or with NVDA?
> I will continue with NVDA 2018.1.1 until I can download the latest
> version and hope the issue with firefox is sorted.
> Best wishes,
> Clive Pallett




 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 
Re: firefox crash with NVDA 2018.3

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Mary,

No, all feedback is good, and indeed it does indicate what I suspected - there likely is some kind of issue at play, but it isn't affecting EVERYONE who uses Firefox, or even everyone using 32-bit Firefox.  Interested to hear if you do have any issues though.

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 11:00 AM Mary Otten <maryotten@...> wrote:
I think I’m going to muddy the waters. I also have the 32-bit version of Firefox, and I just upgraded to the newest NVDA. I am running the latest stable windows, which I think is 1803? And sure enough, after installing NVDA, I had Firefox already open. When I altered to it, I got a crash. However, when I started fire fox again, it worked fine and has continued to do so. It’s only been a couple of webpages. And I still need to reboot the computer after the installation of  nvDA. But it’s interesting that aside from the initial single crash, it worked.
Mary
> On Sep 18, 2018, at 4:51 PM, ann <tate886@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
> I also had major issues with the newest NVDA and Firefox.
>
>
> I am running a 32 bit Firefox, latest version, on the 32 bit version of windows 10. Firefox crashes each time it's launched.
>
>
> But, after reverting back to the previous version of NVDA, this never occurs, not once.
>
>
> ~Ann
>
>
>
>
>> firefox crash with NVDA 2018.3
>> From: Clive Pallett
>> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:55:52 EDT
>> Hello everyone,
>> I updated NVDA to 2018.3 and tried to launch firefox.  The crash reporter screen came up and I tried to start a new session without result.  I have reverted to NVDA 2018.1.1 and firefox loads normally.  It also does when running NVDA 2018.2 which I was running before.  I have the installation file of the former version on my laptop so used that.  I noticed someone else having issues with firefox with NVDA 2018.3.  Is this a problem with firefox or with NVDA?
>> I will continue with NVDA 2018.1.1 until I can download the latest version and hope the issue with firefox is sorted.
>> Best wishes,
>> Clive Pallett
>
>
>
>






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Re: firefox crash with NVDA 2018.3

Mary Otten
 

I think I’m going to muddy the waters. I also have the 32-bit version of Firefox, and I just upgraded to the newest NVDA. I am running the latest stable windows, which I think is 1803? And sure enough, after installing NVDA, I had Firefox already open. When I altered to it, I got a crash. However, when I started fire fox again, it worked fine and has continued to do so. It’s only been a couple of webpages. And I still need to reboot the computer after the installation of nvDA. But it’s interesting that aside from the initial single crash, it worked.
Mary

On Sep 18, 2018, at 4:51 PM, ann <tate886@...> wrote:

Hi,


I also had major issues with the newest NVDA and Firefox.


I am running a 32 bit Firefox, latest version, on the 32 bit version of windows 10. Firefox crashes each time it's launched.


But, after reverting back to the previous version of NVDA, this never occurs, not once.


~Ann




firefox crash with NVDA 2018.3
From: Clive Pallett
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:55:52 EDT
Hello everyone,
I updated NVDA to 2018.3 and tried to launch firefox. The crash reporter screen came up and I tried to start a new session without result. I have reverted to NVDA 2018.1.1 and firefox loads normally. It also does when running NVDA 2018.2 which I was running before. I have the installation file of the former version on my laptop so used that. I noticed someone else having issues with firefox with NVDA 2018.3. Is this a problem with firefox or with NVDA?
I will continue with NVDA 2018.1.1 until I can download the latest version and hope the issue with firefox is sorted.
Best wishes,
Clive Pallett
Re: Urgent! Rolling back an update or obtaining the older installation file?

Quentin Christensen
 

Yes, I did just see that (or I just saw someone post that).  I'd still like to double check whether there's an issue with any add-ons, or anything else that might be contributing, as it seems there is an issue, but even narrowed down to 32-bit FF on 32-bit Windows users, it doesn't appear to be affecting everyone.


On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 10:21 AM Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:

Quentin, if you didn't see it, Ann just said that she was running 32-bit Firefox on a 32-bit machine.

Seems that 32-bit Firefox is now having a negative effect on both 32-bit and 64-bit machines with anything past NVDA 2018.2.1. I, who am on a 64-bit Firefox with a 64-bit Windows 10, am not having said problems.

Travis


On 9/18/2018 5:04 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Ann,

As others have suggested, if you are using a 32-bit version of Firefox on a 64-bit version of Windows, that could be the problem, in which case the solution is to use the 64-bit version of Firefox.

The other thing is to make sure you have restarted the computer since installing NVDA, as restarting fixes a lot of issues like this we see when people have updated but not yet restarted.

Also, if you restart NVDA with add-ons disabled (NVDA+Q then down arrow to that option and enter) it might indicate whether the issue is in NVDA or an add-on.  It is also worth checking to see if there are new versions of any of your add-ons.

Finally, if you could send me a copy of your log, I can have a look and try and ascertain what the issue is so we can fix it.

Kind regards

Quentin.



On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 1:52 AM ann <tate886@...> wrote:
-Hi folks,


This is the first time I have been utterly disappointed with an NVDA
update. Is there a way to roll back an NVDA update to the earlier
version? I cannot use Firefox at all with the newest NVDA, and this is
totally unacceptable.  It won't even work with Internet Explorer. I
thought I Had an old version of the screen reader installed saved, but
apparently not or I have lost it with my recent computer troubles.


In fact, if someone could send me the install file for 2018.2, I'd
appreciate it, since it appears I can no longer browse the internet at
all. With neither of my browsers working with this new version, I can't
even download chrome.


Thanks,

~Ann






--
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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

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--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 
Re: firefox crash with NVDA 2018.3

Quentin Christensen
 

A couple of things to check first:
- Have you restarted the computer after updating NVDA?  If not, please try that first.
- Try restarting NVDA with addons disabled and see if the Firefox issues recur. - If so, check for latest versions of all your add-ons, and failing that, please let us know which is being problematic / which you have enabled.
- Double check that you can in fact start firefox without NVDA 2018.3 running (either with an older version of NVDA or Narrator).
- If you can get Firefox to start (perhaps with an older version of NVDA), if you go to the address bar and type:

about:crashes

If you could get me the one of the latest crash IDs (the seemingly random string of characters), I can get Mozilla to look into it.

Regards

Quentin.


On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 9:52 AM ann <tate886@...> wrote:
Hi,


I also had major issues with the newest NVDA and Firefox.


I am running a 32 bit Firefox, latest version, on the 32 bit version of
windows 10. Firefox crashes each time it's launched.


But, after reverting back to the previous version of NVDA, this never
occurs, not once.


~Ann




> firefox crash with NVDA 2018.3
> From: Clive Pallett
> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 18:55:52 EDT
> Hello everyone,
> I updated NVDA to 2018.3 and tried to launch firefox.  The crash
> reporter screen came up and I tried to start a new session without
> result.  I have reverted to NVDA 2018.1.1 and firefox loads normally. 
> It also does when running NVDA 2018.2 which I was running before.  I
> have the installation file of the former version on my laptop so used
> that.  I noticed someone else having issues with firefox with NVDA
> 2018.3.  Is this a problem with firefox or with NVDA?
> I will continue with NVDA 2018.1.1 until I can download the latest
> version and hope the issue with firefox is sorted.
> Best wishes,
> Clive Pallett






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

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Re: Could not find remote addons under Tools

Quentin Christensen
 

NVDA Remote 2.1 (the latest version), isn't currently compatible with NVDA 2018.3.  The NVDA Remote team are aware and our understanding is that they were waiting for us to release 2018.3 before they released their update (due to backward compatibility issues I believe).  We are hoping that comes out very shortly.

In the meantime, we recommend users needing NVDA Remote not upgrade to NVDA 2018.3 until the update to NVDA Remote comes out.

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 9:31 AM Michael Chopra <michaelchopra38@...> wrote:
 Hi. You’re not the only one having this issue, I am having the same problem as well. According to one of my friends, there is a way to do it but apparently it’s very complicated. If this could be fixed, that would be great.
Thanks.
From Michael.  

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From: 20140772200n behalf of
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 11:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Could not find remote addons under Tools
 
Hi, can anyone guide me how to find the remote addons to my nvda 2018.3
I could not see under the Tools options nowThanks.

Robert Mendoza






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Re: Waterfox works with NVDA

Hope Williamson <isepic@...>
 

Yeah, Waterfox works perfectly with NVDA! I've been using it for about a month now, I think.

On 9/18/2018 4:54 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


If you have a 64 bit version of fire fox on a 64 bit operating system nvda will play nicely with it with nvda 2018.3


How ever it seems if you have a 32 bit version of fire fox on a 64 bit operating system it will crash. I only noticed this in the betas then the RC and now 2018.3


It did not seem to do it on the stable version of nvda 2018.2.1 or the alfa version. So some thing has changed between releases.


Gene nz




On 19/09/2018 11:49 AM, JM Casey wrote:

I’m unable to use Firefox 62 with JAWS without it hanging up/needing to be closed with task manager, however so far it’s working fine with NVDA 2018.2 (haven’t gotten the upgrade yet).

 

As for Waterfox, there are some things I’ve always been unclear about.

What, if any, advantage does it really have over firefox?

And how do they handle security updates/bug-fixes? If the versions were concurrent with Firefox at one time and they’re now at 56, that means they are lagging over a year behind the curve now.

 

Also, you can set your homepage with Firefox easily, so that it opens and goes straight to google, or whatever page you choose.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Clive Pallett
Sent: September 18, 2018 7:46 PM
To: NVDA <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Waterfox works with NVDA

 

Hello everyone,

 

Further to my previous post, I noticed that Waterfox was recommended as an alternative browser to Mozilla Firefox.  I have installed Waterfox 56.2.3 and updated NVDA to 2018.3 and Waterfox works fine.  If anything, it loads faster than Firefox and takes me straight to Google, my preferred home page.

 

Best wishes,

 

Clive Pallett

 

 



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Re: Urgent! Rolling back an update or obtaining the older installation file?

Kwork
 

Quentin, if you didn't see it, Ann just said that she was running 32-bit Firefox on a 32-bit machine.

Seems that 32-bit Firefox is now having a negative effect on both 32-bit and 64-bit machines with anything past NVDA 2018.2.1. I, who am on a 64-bit Firefox with a 64-bit Windows 10, am not having said problems.

Travis


On 9/18/2018 5:04 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Ann,

As others have suggested, if you are using a 32-bit version of Firefox on a 64-bit version of Windows, that could be the problem, in which case the solution is to use the 64-bit version of Firefox.

The other thing is to make sure you have restarted the computer since installing NVDA, as restarting fixes a lot of issues like this we see when people have updated but not yet restarted.

Also, if you restart NVDA with add-ons disabled (NVDA+Q then down arrow to that option and enter) it might indicate whether the issue is in NVDA or an add-on.  It is also worth checking to see if there are new versions of any of your add-ons.

Finally, if you could send me a copy of your log, I can have a look and try and ascertain what the issue is so we can fix it.

Kind regards

Quentin.



On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 1:52 AM ann <tate886@...> wrote:
-Hi folks,


This is the first time I have been utterly disappointed with an NVDA
update. Is there a way to roll back an NVDA update to the earlier
version? I cannot use Firefox at all with the newest NVDA, and this is
totally unacceptable.  It won't even work with Internet Explorer. I
thought I Had an old version of the screen reader installed saved, but
apparently not or I have lost it with my recent computer troubles.


In fact, if someone could send me the install file for 2018.2, I'd
appreciate it, since it appears I can no longer browse the internet at
all. With neither of my browsers working with this new version, I can't
even download chrome.


Thanks,

~Ann






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Re: Waterfox works with NVDA

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Hi.

 

I don’t know if you were responding directly to me, but as it happens I have a 64-bit Firefox and a 64-bit oS. I’m not looking for a solution to my JAWS problem on the NVDA list, although the mixed messages I am getting about Firefox screen-reader support are a bit perplexing. Still, there seem to be plenty of NVDA users having no trouble.

 

My questions below pertained to Waterfox, which I’ve never used, but some people here swear by.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: September 18, 2018 7:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Waterfox works with NVDA

 

Hi

 

If you have a 64 bit version of fire fox on a 64 bit operating system nvda will play nicely with it with nvda 2018.3

 

How ever it seems if you have a 32 bit version of fire fox on a 64 bit operating system it will crash. I only noticed this in the betas then the RC and now 2018.3

 

It did not seem to do it on the stable version of nvda 2018.2.1 or the alfa version. So some thing has changed between releases.

 

Gene nz

 

 

 

On 19/09/2018 11:49 AM, JM Casey wrote:

I’m unable to use Firefox 62 with JAWS without it hanging up/needing to be closed with task manager, however so far it’s working fine with NVDA 2018.2 (haven’t gotten the upgrade yet).

 

As for Waterfox, there are some things I’ve always been unclear about.

What, if any, advantage does it really have over firefox?

And how do they handle security updates/bug-fixes? If the versions were concurrent with Firefox at one time and they’re now at 56, that means they are lagging over a year behind the curve now.

 

Also, you can set your homepage with Firefox easily, so that it opens and goes straight to google, or whatever page you choose.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Clive Pallett
Sent: September 18, 2018 7:46 PM
To: NVDA <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Waterfox works with NVDA

 

Hello everyone,

 

Further to my previous post, I noticed that Waterfox was recommended as an alternative browser to Mozilla Firefox.  I have installed Waterfox 56.2.3 and updated NVDA to 2018.3 and Waterfox works fine.  If anything, it loads faster than Firefox and takes me straight to Google, my preferred home page.

 

Best wishes,

 

Clive Pallett

 

 

 
Re: Urgent! Rolling back an update or obtaining the older installation file?

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Ann,

As others have suggested, if you are using a 32-bit version of Firefox on a 64-bit version of Windows, that could be the problem, in which case the solution is to use the 64-bit version of Firefox.

The other thing is to make sure you have restarted the computer since installing NVDA, as restarting fixes a lot of issues like this we see when people have updated but not yet restarted.

Also, if you restart NVDA with add-ons disabled (NVDA+Q then down arrow to that option and enter) it might indicate whether the issue is in NVDA or an add-on.  It is also worth checking to see if there are new versions of any of your add-ons.

Finally, if you could send me a copy of your log, I can have a look and try and ascertain what the issue is so we can fix it.

Kind regards

Quentin.



On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 1:52 AM ann <tate886@...> wrote:
-Hi folks,


This is the first time I have been utterly disappointed with an NVDA
update. Is there a way to roll back an NVDA update to the earlier
version? I cannot use Firefox at all with the newest NVDA, and this is
totally unacceptable.  It won't even work with Internet Explorer. I
thought I Had an old version of the screen reader installed saved, but
apparently not or I have lost it with my recent computer troubles.


In fact, if someone could send me the install file for 2018.2, I'd
appreciate it, since it appears I can no longer browse the internet at
all. With neither of my browsers working with this new version, I can't
even download chrome.


Thanks,

~Ann






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 
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