Would increasing the speed in control panel correspondingly increase NVDA’s highest speed?

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 8:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Free Synthesizers

 

I know of no way to increase the speed higher than "rate of 100."

Yours is a common complaint.  I'd submit a suggestion that the top rate be increased significantly via the Feedback Hub, then post the link to same here for folks to be able to upvote it.

It amazes me how many screen reader users can understand a speech rate that leaves most of the rest of the world scratching their heads (including me)!  But I also get why that's an incredibly valuable skill to develop.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

 

 

On the web page, I use Control + L that lands me on the URL. In the past, I used the context key to do a select, then again to copy. However I did try your copy method and it worked fine and it saves a tiny bit of time.

Then when on the desktop, I deselect the default item, and use the context key go to New, arrow down to Shortcut and fill in the address I have saved,, press NEXT and add a title and press Done.

What steps did you do?

But it doesn’t work? Hmmm.

Hi,

The only difference with deselecting is that the “new” is further down the context menu if it is not deselected.

But yes, the icon will be on the desktop with whatever name you give it.

Glenn

Glen,

I am running Windows 10 and Firefox, and use much the same process as you. I had always deselected whatever item was the default selected before creating the new shortcut. I thought that was likely the different. However I tried your step by step without the deselect and it worked fine. When you finish your process, is there a new Icon with the correct name on your desktop?

Guess this was not of much help.

Rick

I don’t know why the way I do it in Windows 7 won’t work.

I go to the page, and go to the address field, with alt + D.

Then I do the copy command, control + C, it’s already highlighted.

Then I go to the desktop and I usually unselect whatever is there, but I don’t think this is necessary, with control + space bar.

Then I tap the applications key and arrow to new and open that and enter on shortcut.

Then I paste the URL I copied before, with control + V.

Then I enter and give it a name and I’m done.

It took a lot longer to write this out than this procedure takes.

Glenn

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

The default method is drag and drop, which is not particularly convenient for screen reader users.

See this article on intowindows.com entitled, How To Create Website Shortcut On Desktop In Windows 10, which gives you alternative methods for creating desktop shortcuts to websites that are applicable no matter what web browser you're using.

If your default web browser is something other than Internet Explorer (and it should be) you can still use the trick of using IE just to create the desktop shortcut from the webpage currently visible.  The shortcut on the desktop will open in whatever your chosen default web browser happens to be, as what's created is nothing more than a shortcut to a web page and those are always opened by the default web browser you've chosen.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

Would increasing the speed in control panel correspondingly increase
NVDA’s highest speed?

Glenn

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Brian
Vogel
*Sent:* Monday, August 27, 2018 8:01 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Free Synthesizers

I know of no way to increase the speed higher than "rate of 100."

Yours is a common complaint.  I'd submit a suggestion that the top
rate be increased significantly via the Feedback Hub, then post the
link to same here for folks to be able to upvote it.

It amazes me how many screen reader users can understand a speech rate
that leaves most of the rest of the world scratching their heads
(including me)!  But I also get why that's an incredibly valuable
skill to develop.
--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134

/The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals,
which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person
cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows
that this is untrue. . ./

           ~ Bertrand Russell

What steps did you do?

But it doesn’t work? Hmmm.

Hi,

The only difference with deselecting is that the “new” is further down the context menu if it is not deselected.

But yes, the icon will be on the desktop with whatever name you give it.

Glenn

Glen,

I am running Windows 10 and Firefox, and use much the same process as you. I had always deselected whatever item was the default selected before creating the new shortcut. I thought that was likely the different. However I tried your step by step without the deselect and it worked fine. When you finish your process, is there a new Icon with the correct name on your desktop?

Guess this was not of much help.

Rick

I don’t know why the way I do it in Windows 7 won’t work.

I go to the page, and go to the address field, with alt + D.

Then I do the copy command, control + C, it’s already highlighted.

Then I go to the desktop and I usually unselect whatever is there, but I don’t think this is necessary, with control + space bar.

Then I tap the applications key and arrow to new and open that and enter on shortcut.

Then I paste the URL I copied before, with control + V.

Then I enter and give it a name and I’m done.

It took a lot longer to write this out than this procedure takes.

Glenn

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

The default method is drag and drop, which is not particularly convenient for screen reader users.

See this article on intowindows.com entitled, How To Create Website Shortcut On Desktop In Windows 10, which gives you alternative methods for creating desktop shortcuts to websites that are applicable no matter what web browser you're using.

If your default web browser is something other than Internet Explorer (and it should be) you can still use the trick of using IE just to create the desktop shortcut from the webpage currently visible.  The shortcut on the desktop will open in whatever your chosen default web browser happens to be, as what's created is nothing more than a shortcut to a web page and those are always opened by the default web browser you've chosen.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

If you look at the shortcut properties , is the URL there? Does the shortcut work if you use the “open” from the context menu?

Hi,

The only difference with deselecting is that the “new” is further down the context menu if it is not deselected.

But yes, the icon will be on the desktop with whatever name you give it.

Glenn

Glen,

I am running Windows 10 and Firefox, and use much the same process as you. I had always deselected whatever item was the default selected before creating the new shortcut. I thought that was likely the different. However I tried your step by step without the deselect and it worked fine. When you finish your process, is there a new Icon with the correct name on your desktop?

Guess this was not of much help.

Rick

I don’t know why the way I do it in Windows 7 won’t work.

I go to the page, and go to the address field, with alt + D.

Then I do the copy command, control + C, it’s already highlighted.

Then I go to the desktop and I usually unselect whatever is there, but I don’t think this is necessary, with control + space bar.

Then I tap the applications key and arrow to new and open that and enter on shortcut.

Then I paste the URL I copied before, with control + V.

Then I enter and give it a name and I’m done.

It took a lot longer to write this out than this procedure takes.

Glenn

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

The default method is drag and drop, which is not particularly convenient for screen reader users.

See this article on intowindows.com entitled, How To Create Website Shortcut On Desktop In Windows 10, which gives you alternative methods for creating desktop shortcuts to websites that are applicable no matter what web browser you're using.

If your default web browser is something other than Internet Explorer (and it should be) you can still use the trick of using IE just to create the desktop shortcut from the webpage currently visible.  The shortcut on the desktop will open in whatever your chosen default web browser happens to be, as what's created is nothing more than a shortcut to a web page and those are always opened by the default web browser you've chosen.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

Hi,

The only difference with deselecting is that the “new” is further down the context menu if it is not deselected.

But yes, the icon will be on the desktop with whatever name you give it.

Glenn

Glen,

I am running Windows 10 and Firefox, and use much the same process as you. I had always deselected whatever item was the default selected before creating the new shortcut. I thought that was likely the different. However I tried your step by step without the deselect and it worked fine. When you finish your process, is there a new Icon with the correct name on your desktop?

Guess this was not of much help.

Rick

I don’t know why the way I do it in Windows 7 won’t work.

I go to the page, and go to the address field, with alt + D.

Then I do the copy command, control + C, it’s already highlighted.

Then I go to the desktop and I usually unselect whatever is there, but I don’t think this is necessary, with control + space bar.

Then I tap the applications key and arrow to new and open that and enter on shortcut.

Then I paste the URL I copied before, with control + V.

Then I enter and give it a name and I’m done.

It took a lot longer to write this out than this procedure takes.

Glenn

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

The default method is drag and drop, which is not particularly convenient for screen reader users.

See this article on intowindows.com entitled, How To Create Website Shortcut On Desktop In Windows 10, which gives you alternative methods for creating desktop shortcuts to websites that are applicable no matter what web browser you're using.

If your default web browser is something other than Internet Explorer (and it should be) you can still use the trick of using IE just to create the desktop shortcut from the webpage currently visible.  The shortcut on the desktop will open in whatever your chosen default web browser happens to be, as what's created is nothing more than a shortcut to a web page and those are always opened by the default web browser you've chosen.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

But it doesn’t work? Hmmm.

Hi,

The only difference with deselecting is that the “new” is further down the context menu if it is not deselected.

But yes, the icon will be on the desktop with whatever name you give it.

Glenn

Glen,

I am running Windows 10 and Firefox, and use much the same process as you. I had always deselected whatever item was the default selected before creating the new shortcut. I thought that was likely the different. However I tried your step by step without the deselect and it worked fine. When you finish your process, is there a new Icon with the correct name on your desktop?

Guess this was not of much help.

Rick

I don’t know why the way I do it in Windows 7 won’t work.

I go to the page, and go to the address field, with alt + D.

Then I do the copy command, control + C, it’s already highlighted.

Then I go to the desktop and I usually unselect whatever is there, but I don’t think this is necessary, with control + space bar.

Then I tap the applications key and arrow to new and open that and enter on shortcut.

Then I paste the URL I copied before, with control + V.

Then I enter and give it a name and I’m done.

It took a lot longer to write this out than this procedure takes.

Glenn

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

The default method is drag and drop, which is not particularly convenient for screen reader users.

See this article on intowindows.com entitled, How To Create Website Shortcut On Desktop In Windows 10, which gives you alternative methods for creating desktop shortcuts to websites that are applicable no matter what web browser you're using.

If your default web browser is something other than Internet Explorer (and it should be) you can still use the trick of using IE just to create the desktop shortcut from the webpage currently visible.  The shortcut on the desktop will open in whatever your chosen default web browser happens to be, as what's created is nothing more than a shortcut to a web page and those are always opened by the default web browser you've chosen.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

Hi,

The only difference with deselecting is that the “new” is further down the context menu if it is not deselected.

But yes, the icon will be on the desktop with whatever name you give it.

Glenn

Glen,

I am running Windows 10 and Firefox, and use much the same process as you. I had always deselected whatever item was the default selected before creating the new shortcut. I thought that was likely the different. However I tried your step by step without the deselect and it worked fine. When you finish your process, is there a new Icon with the correct name on your desktop?

Guess this was not of much help.

Rick

I don’t know why the way I do it in Windows 7 won’t work.

I go to the page, and go to the address field, with alt + D.

Then I do the copy command, control + C, it’s already highlighted.

Then I go to the desktop and I usually unselect whatever is there, but I don’t think this is necessary, with control + space bar.

Then I tap the applications key and arrow to new and open that and enter on shortcut.

Then I paste the URL I copied before, with control + V.

Then I enter and give it a name and I’m done.

It took a lot longer to write this out than this procedure takes.

Glenn

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

The default method is drag and drop, which is not particularly convenient for screen reader users.

See this article on intowindows.com entitled, How To Create Website Shortcut On Desktop In Windows 10, which gives you alternative methods for creating desktop shortcuts to websites that are applicable no matter what web browser you're using.

If your default web browser is something other than Internet Explorer (and it should be) you can still use the trick of using IE just to create the desktop shortcut from the webpage currently visible.  The shortcut on the desktop will open in whatever your chosen default web browser happens to be, as what's created is nothing more than a shortcut to a web page and those are always opened by the default web browser you've chosen.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

Glen,

I am running Windows 10 and Firefox, and use much the same process as you. I had always deselected whatever item was the default selected before creating the new shortcut. I thought that was likely the different. However I tried your step by step without the deselect and it worked fine. When you finish your process, is there a new Icon with the correct name on your desktop?

Guess this was not of much help.

Rick

I don’t know why the way I do it in Windows 7 won’t work.

I go to the page, and go to the address field, with alt + D.

Then I do the copy command, control + C, it’s already highlighted.

Then I go to the desktop and I usually unselect whatever is there, but I don’t think this is necessary, with control + space bar.

Then I tap the applications key and arrow to new and open that and enter on shortcut.

Then I paste the URL I copied before, with control + V.

Then I enter and give it a name and I’m done.

It took a lot longer to write this out than this procedure takes.

Glenn

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

The default method is drag and drop, which is not particularly convenient for screen reader users.

See this article on intowindows.com entitled, How To Create Website Shortcut On Desktop In Windows 10, which gives you alternative methods for creating desktop shortcuts to websites that are applicable no matter what web browser you're using.

If your default web browser is something other than Internet Explorer (and it should be) you can still use the trick of using IE just to create the desktop shortcut from the webpage currently visible.  The shortcut on the desktop will open in whatever your chosen default web browser happens to be, as what's created is nothing more than a shortcut to a web page and those are always opened by the default web browser you've chosen.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

Hi all,

Add-on Updater August 27^th build (proof of concept) is now available. This build brings:

• User experience feedback: when add-on updates dialog appears, all add-on checkboxes will be checked by default. This is in response to feedback from people regarding user experience of having this checked/unchecked. My original intent was to check them, but couldn’t find a solution for a while. This fix also addresses a problem where users of most recent releases could not update their add-ons due to missing wxPython attribute when running NVDA 2018.2.1.
• Development snapshot download: fixed an issue where if you told Add-on Updater to download development versions of add-ons, it would download stable releases instead. This was internal to the add-on – no changes to add-on server.

Important notes:

• If you are running NVDA 2018.2.x and happen to use August 25^th build (the original, not revision A), you need to apply this update manually. To do so, go to NVDA add-ons website (addons.nvda-project.org), go to “add-ons under development”, look for Add-on Updater, and download the build offered.
• This is a proof of concept add-on, thus no stable build will be released and should be used to send feedback regarding add-on update feature in NVDA (which I’m working on).

Cheers,

Joseph

I don’t know why the way I do it in Windows 7 won’t work.

I go to the page, and go to the address field, with alt + D.

Then I do the copy command, control + C, it’s already highlighted.

Then I go to the desktop and I usually unselect whatever is there, but I don’t think this is necessary, with control + space bar.

Then I tap the applications key and arrow to new and open that and enter on shortcut.

Then I paste the URL I copied before, with control + V.

Then I enter and give it a name and I’m done.

It took a lot longer to write this out than this procedure takes.

Glenn

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webpage shortcuts using firefox

The default method is drag and drop, which is not particularly convenient for screen reader users.

See this article on intowindows.com entitled, How To Create Website Shortcut On Desktop In Windows 10, which gives you alternative methods for creating desktop shortcuts to websites that are applicable no matter what web browser you're using.

If your default web browser is something other than Internet Explorer (and it should be) you can still use the trick of using IE just to create the desktop shortcut from the webpage currently visible.  The shortcut on the desktop will open in whatever your chosen default web browser happens to be, as what's created is nothing more than a shortcut to a web page and those are always opened by the default web browser you've chosen.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

Laptop is on most of the day and off at night but I Maybe reboot once or twice a day or when I have to for a update for example

And hibernation is disabled

Do you actually reboot your machines regularly? IE even on windows 7 these

weird sluggish problems occur if I just hibernate or whatever windows.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 9:03 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Words and lines repeat in the Mail app!

Yes, same issue here as well, along with no speech output after using the

mail app on some occasions but not all the time

From: David Moore

Sent: 27 August 2018 01:03

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] Words and lines repeat in the Mail app!

Hi all!

I hope you can help me.

Lately, in the mail app, if I use the arrow keys to read word by word, or

line by line, the same word, letter, or line will repeat, even if I am on

another line, letter, or word.

When I try to correct my emails, I have to use the text commands to read

with the review cursor, and press the command to bring the focus to the

review cursor, and make the correction.

My messages read fine with the review cursor, but it is getting almost

impossible to read my message with the arrow keys and the focus.

I am using latest alpha build, latest Mail app update, and Windows 1803.

It is the win10 mail app.

I have tried turning off my add-ons except for Windows app essentials, but

it does not help.

Let me know if any of you are having this problem with the Win10 mail app

with NVDA.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

I know of no way to increase the speed higher than "rate of 100."

Yours is a common complaint.  I'd submit a suggestion that the top rate be increased significantly via the Feedback Hub, then post the link to same here for folks to be able to upvote it.

It amazes me how many screen reader users can understand a speech rate that leaves most of the rest of the world scratching their heads (including me)!  But I also get why that's an incredibly valuable skill to develop.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    The psychology of adultery has been falsified by conventional morals, which assume, in monogamous countries, that attraction to one person cannot co-exist with a serious affection for another.  Everybody knows that this is untrue. . .

           ~ Bertrand Russell

but don't you still need to run a screen reader for dos box?

I haven't used dos in so long things may have changed

On 8/25/2018 10:30 PM, Isaac wrote:

probably have to use vocalizer for dos or jaws for dos. Or you could run
a windows machine with dos box.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Spivey" <tspivey@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screen Reader under DOS


No.
On 8/25/2018 5:06 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:

I'm going to build a DOS machine and will, of course, need it to talk
and possibly display in Braille. I'm wondering if NVDA will run under
DOS? I think I'll probably use DOS version 6.22. If not, I do have
others here that will run.

.

--
check out my song on youtube
https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y

The default method is drag and drop, which is not particularly convenient for screen reader users.

See this article on intowindows.com entitled, How To Create Website Shortcut On Desktop In Windows 10, which gives you alternative methods for creating desktop shortcuts to websites that are applicable no matter what web browser you're using.

If your default web browser is something other than Internet Explorer (and it should be) you can still use the trick of using IE just to create the desktop shortcut from the webpage currently visible.  The shortcut on the desktop will open in whatever your chosen default web browser happens to be, as what's created is nothing more than a shortcut to a web page and those are always opened by the default web browser you've chosen.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134  

    A little kindness from person to person is better than a vast love for all humankind.

           ~ Richard Dehmel

Is the manual install located at NVDA Community Add-ons website , if so, I didn't find it.

On 8/26/2018 9:08 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
And the solution has been revealed in the form of Revision A for August 25th snapshot, with the bug caused by a wxPython attribute that isn't available in NVDA 2018.2.1. I'm about to upload August 27th snapshot that not only includes a fix for this (for those who haven't applied revision A), but also will check add-on checkboxes by default so you can update add-ons.
Note that the new build will require manual install for those using August 25th build (not revision A).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ian Westerland
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2018 8:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] strange behavior with add on updater



Hello Andy.  I had the same issue Tony reported and am glad it installed for you.  This is the first time I have had any trouble.  No doubt all will be revealed.

Ian Westerland





On 8/27/2018 1:49 PM, Andy wrote:

When i launched NVDA yesterday the update dialogue came up and i had
no problem installing the update.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Westerland"
<iwesterl@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2018 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] strange behavior with add on updater


Hi Tony.  I was about to write to the list on the same subject.  At
first I wondered if there was some kind of bug when the notification
appeared several hours apart but I am convinced it isn't a bug.

Looking forward to the answer and a possible remedy.

Ian Westerland




On 8/27/2018 1:40 PM, Tony Ballou wrote:

Howdy,


The latest version of the add on updater came out yesterday. When I
check the option to install it, the only button that shows up is a
close button. I went through the dialog box, and the only things that
are in there are the checkbox to select the update and the close button.
What's up with that, where's the install button for the darn thing?
Slightly perplexed.


Tony