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Re: Focus problems with google chrome and microsoft edge

Gene
 

 the last message from Afik said that the same problem happens with JAWS.  I see no reason to believe the issue is an NVDA issue.

Gene

On 7/28/2022 2:13 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

And I see no indication that The Most Basic Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues
have been tried.  This could very well be add-on related, among other things, and if it is add-on related and the same add-ons are in use on both machines . . .
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard
Re: Focus problems with google chrome and microsoft edge

Brian Vogel
 

And I see no indication that The Most Basic Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues
have been tried.  This could very well be add-on related, among other things, and if it is add-on related and the same add-ons are in use on both machines . . .
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard
locked How to download the latest ffmpeg for windows

Sarah k Alawami
 

Using nvda 22.x and Windows 11 21H2 (x64) build 22000.795. I have this issue in Firefox, chrome, edge.

 

  • Launch http://www.ffmpeg.org
  • Click download
  • There should be a windows link then a link to the essentials and / or other EXE binaries.

 

Here’s the problem. There is not one. I see an unlabeled link I found to be windows; however, I cannot find the links I need. They used to be there in November last year when I had to do this, however something in the site’s \code changed. A bit of help as I really do think something broke. I just need someone else to verify this. I watched a YouTube video that said how to do this, except I cannot find any of the links mentioned.  Sorry if this comes out a bit odd, I’m having keyboard getting stuck issues as I’m running out of memory on this system, again.
Re: Focus problems with google chrome and microsoft edge

Gene
 

I don't want to say it is but it may be malware.  If you do the same things on both computers and go to the same sites, it may be that you got the same malware.

Gene

On 7/28/2022 2:04 PM, Afik Souffir wrote:

Yes, its happends with Jaws on 2 laptops with different operating systems. 
Really effect my daily work. Its happend on every website.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene <gsasner@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:06:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus problems with google chrome and microsoft edge
 
I don't know what causes the problem.  Does it happen with another screen-reader?  This doesn't sound to me as though it has anything to do with NVDA. 

Gene
On 7/28/2022 10:58 AM, Afik Souffir wrote:
No, firefox is ok .
The problem, for example i’m on a website, and the focus jump to the end of the website. Its happends every few seconds.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene <gsasner@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:49:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus problems with google chrome and microsoft edge
 
I don't have such problems but your question could be better discussed if we have a specific example or examples of the problems you are having.

Also, you mentioned two browsers.  Do you have the same problems with a browser that isn't a Chrome-based browser such as Firefox?

Gene

On 7/28/2022 10:34 AM, Afik Souffir wrote:
 
 
Hi,
Do any of you have a problem with focus in google chrome or microsoft edge?
 
Thanks,
Afik
 
Re: Focus problems with google chrome and microsoft edge

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 

Yes, its happends with Jaws on 2 laptops with different operating systems. 
Really effect my daily work. Its happend on every website.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene <gsasner@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 7:06:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus problems with google chrome and microsoft edge
 
I don't know what causes the problem.  Does it happen with another screen-reader?  This doesn't sound to me as though it has anything to do with NVDA. 

Gene
On 7/28/2022 10:58 AM, Afik Souffir wrote:

No, firefox is ok .
The problem, for example i’m on a website, and the focus jump to the end of the website. Its happends every few seconds.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene <gsasner@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:49:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus problems with google chrome and microsoft edge
 
I don't have such problems but your question could be better discussed if we have a specific example or examples of the problems you are having.

Also, you mentioned two browsers.  Do you have the same problems with a browser that isn't a Chrome-based browser such as Firefox?

Gene

On 7/28/2022 10:34 AM, Afik Souffir wrote:
 
 
Hi,
Do any of you have a problem with focus in google chrome or microsoft edge?
 
Thanks,
Afik
 
Re: NVDA on Patreon?

Janet Brandly
 

Thanks Brian.  I just went with what spellcheck said.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: July 28, 2022 11:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA on Patreon?

 

I've retitled this topic to accurately reflect the spelling for the Patreon payment service.  This isn't an attempt at snark, but at making it easier for the curious to find it (the direct link should help, too).
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard
Re: NVDA on Patreon?

jamie coady
 

Paypal on patreon is quite easy and so is doing it with your debit or credit card. Where I have the problem on there is navigating the site a little. I follow some people on there for fanfiction and it is hard getting to there works. There is not like a click here for my works or something like that.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Janet Brandly
Sent: 28 July 2022 18:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA on Patrion

 

OK I must admit I haven’t used PayPal in a while. Even so, getting NVDA on Patrion might provide an additional donation stream.

 
Re: NVDA with Android emulators.

Brian Vogel
 
Edited

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 01:17 PM, mr Krit Kumar kedia wrote:
by using the android emulator, can we use all the aps on our pc which run on our  android phones?
How can we use talkback on our pc?
what are the main spex are required to run android apps on our PC?
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Yes, you can use all Android apps in an Android emulator.  I can't imagine any reasonably new computer having any difficulty with any Android apps running under the emulator of choice.

The above being said, discussion of how to use Android emulation itself is off-topic for the NVDA group.  If any among the membership wish to discuss this in depth, please create a topic in the Chat Subgroup.

If anyone happens to know of an existing group (whether on Groups.io or elsewhere) for Android Emulator users who are blind, please share it, as that would be the ideal and appropriate venue for pursuing these sorts of questions in depth.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard
Re: NVDA on Patreon?

Brian Vogel
 

I've retitled this topic to accurately reflect the spelling for the Patreon payment service.  This isn't an attempt at snark, but at making it easier for the curious to find it (the direct link should help, too).
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard
Re: NVDA with Android emulators.

mr Krit Kumar kedia
 

Hi all,
I also have a question regarding the topic going on:
by using the android emulator, can we use all the aps on our pc which run on our  android phones?
How can we use talkback on our pc?
what are the main spex are required to run android apps on our PC?

thank you,


On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 4:24 PM VI Techability <vitechability@...> wrote:
hello  udit thanks for correcting me

NVDA on Patreon?

Janet Brandly
 

OK I must admit I haven’t used PayPal in a while. Even so, getting NVDA on Patrion might provide an additional donation stream.
Re: The Japanese 1Core voices have failed my first test of them

Gene
 

I'm glad you found the information useful. 

Gene

On 7/28/2022 10:41 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:

Even if, and this is a big if, Jarte was to become unusable, Wordpad is still a thing. And Microsoft Word can open .rtf files. It will be far from the end of the world even if I couldn't use Jarte any more.


I believe it was you who first recommended Jarte to me, Gene. It's been an invaluble addition to my software toolbox since you brought it to my attention, and I thank you.

On 29/07/2022 1:34 am, Gene wrote:
It isn't supported but just expecting it to suddenly break is very unlikely.  Wordpad, either in the current version or older versions, is a simple program.  I really doubt that something in Windows is going to change so it no longer works.  I'd bet that if you still have the old Wordpad files from the Windows 95 version, that it would still work.

In talking about programs breaking over time, I think you have to consider the context.

Gene
On 7/28/2022 10:13 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I can't, and won't, tell people what they can and cannot use.  But I will tell them that relying on out-of-support software (and I do mean relying, rather than occasional or frequent casual use) always eventually leads to heartache when it suddenly breaks and will never be fixed.  Then you have to scramble to find a replacement under pressure rather than being able to do leisurely evaluation of alternatives.

I thought I had remembered Jarte as being officially unsupported, and they don't say that anywhere but on their support page:  "Support is no longer provided for Jarte. No further development of the Jarte program is expected."
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard
Re: NVDA on Patreon?

Brian Vogel
 

On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 11:47 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
I didn’t know one had to be from Australia to use PayPal…
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That's because you don't (although I feel fairly certain you knew that and this was rhetorical).

PayPal is international and handles currency conversions automatically just like any large international payment system does.  I discussed this literally a week ago when someone was asking whether they could use the PayPal app, as opposed to the donation page, to donate to NVAccess (you can - see message   in the archive, or the whole topic).
 
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H2, Build 19044  

The difference between a top-flight creative man and the hack is his ability to express powerful meanings indirectly.

         ~ Vance Packard
Re: NVDA on Patreon?

Gene
 

And, though this may not help in your case, you can donate with a credit card using the donate form.

Gene

On 7/28/2022 11:07 AM, Steve Wettlaufer wrote:

For what it's worth, donating through PayPal isn't that hard if you have it linked to a bank account.  I'm in Canada and have been donating monthly for several years that way.  PayPal just does the conversions and pulls the money out automatically, then sends a receipt.  I never have to touch anything unless I want to change my amount or cancel my recurring payment.

Steve

On 2022-07-28 11:41 a.m., Janet Brandly wrote:

Hello,

 

Has the NVDA team ever considered opening an account on Patrion? This might make it easier for people to donate to NVDA. I’d like to start donating monthly and, not being from Australia, would find this easier than using PayPal.

 

Just a thought,

 

Janet
Re: NVDA on Patreon?

Steve Wettlaufer
 

For what it's worth, donating through PayPal isn't that hard if you have it linked to a bank account.  I'm in Canada and have been donating monthly for several years that way.  PayPal just does the conversions and pulls the money out automatically, then sends a receipt.  I never have to touch anything unless I want to change my amount or cancel my recurring payment.

Steve

On 2022-07-28 11:41 a.m., Janet Brandly wrote:

Hello,

 

Has the NVDA team ever considered opening an account on Patrion? This might make it easier for people to donate to NVDA. I’d like to start donating monthly and, not being from Australia, would find this easier than using PayPal.

 

Just a thought,

 

Janet
Re: Focus problems with google chrome and microsoft edge

Gene
 

I don't know what causes the problem.  Does it happen with another screen-reader?  This doesn't sound to me as though it has anything to do with NVDA. 

Gene
On 7/28/2022 10:58 AM, Afik Souffir wrote:

No, firefox is ok .
The problem, for example i’m on a website, and the focus jump to the end of the website. Its happends every few seconds.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene <gsasner@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:49:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus problems with google chrome and microsoft edge
 
I don't have such problems but your question could be better discussed if we have a specific example or examples of the problems you are having.

Also, you mentioned two browsers.  Do you have the same problems with a browser that isn't a Chrome-based browser such as Firefox?

Gene

On 7/28/2022 10:34 AM, Afik Souffir wrote:
 
 
Hi,
Do any of you have a problem with focus in google chrome or microsoft edge?
 
Thanks,
Afik
 
Re: NVDA on Patreon?

Chris Smart
 

 

Patrion is international. As far as I know there isn’t a specific requirement for members to upload extra content.

I’m in Canada and I didn’t have trouble donating to NVAccess.

 

As for Patrion, yes, there is no requirement. I’m just saying that’s how many people use it.

I’m seeing a bank transfer option on their donations page as well. Perhaps you could set that up monthly with your bank?
Re: Focus problems with google chrome and microsoft edge

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 

No, firefox is ok .
The problem, for example i’m on a website, and the focus jump to the end of the website. Its happends every few seconds.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene <gsasner@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2022 6:49:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focus problems with google chrome and microsoft edge
 
I don't have such problems but your question could be better discussed if we have a specific example or examples of the problems you are having.

Also, you mentioned two browsers.  Do you have the same problems with a browser that isn't a Chrome-based browser such as Firefox?

Gene

On 7/28/2022 10:34 AM, Afik Souffir wrote:

 
 
Hi,
Do any of you have a problem with focus in google chrome or microsoft edge?
 
Thanks,
Afik
 
Re: NVDA on Patreon?

Janet Brandly
 

Patrion is international. As far as I know there isn’t a specific requirement for members to upload extra content.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: July 28, 2022 9:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA on Patrion?

 

I didn’t know one had to be from Australia to use PayPal…

 

Usually, Patrion is a two-way street. NVAccess would be expected by most people to offer lots of exclusive content only to Patrion supporters, if they were to open an account there. It’s usually a platform for supporting artists.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet Brandly
Sent: July 28, 2022 11:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA on Patrion?

 

Hello,

 

Has the NVDA team ever considered opening an account on Patrion? This might make it easier for people to donate to NVDA. I’d like to start donating monthly and, not being from Australia, would find this easier than using PayPal.

 

Just a thought,

 

Janet
Re: Focus problems with google chrome and microsoft edge

Gene
 

I don't have such problems but your question could be better discussed if we have a specific example or examples of the problems you are having.

Also, you mentioned two browsers.  Do you have the same problems with a browser that isn't a Chrome-based browser such as Firefox?

Gene

On 7/28/2022 10:34 AM, Afik Souffir wrote:

 
 
Hi,
Do any of you have a problem with focus in google chrome or microsoft edge?
 
Thanks,
Afik
 
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