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Re: Brailliant display on startup

Jason White
 

Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:
Regarding braille not being available on log-in screen, presumably you have
braille settings on the NVDA profile associated with your windows user
account but have you used the feature in the NVDA General setting dialog
where you can copy your profile for use on log-in screens?

I recently encountered the same issue, and activating the option to which you
refer above fixed it. After copying the profile, the braille display became
available at password prompts, for example.

This was using a VFO/Freedom Scientific Focus display in my work environment,
but the type of braille display probably doesn't matter.


Re: Say All and NVDA

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I found that a different synth was the answer to this sort of thing. I'm not sure but I think also something that is looked at for a profile is sometimes also true at other times, making profiles for speech a a bit hit and miss at times. I can say no more than that, but I had this just with a basic text reader so I doubt its just kindle.
Brian

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From: "Lanie Molinar" <laniemolinar91@gmail.com>
To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:51 AM
Subject: [nvda] Say All and NVDA


HI, everyone. I have a couple questions and was wondering if anyone could help. I have the latest Next snapshot of NVDA and Windows 10 Insider build 17134, but what I'm asking about has been an issue for a long time. I often read books on my laptop with Kindle for PC, especially if I can't find an audio version somewhere Else. I use eSpeak NG and have it set really fast for most things, but when I'm reading, I like to slow it down. A lot of times, I've tried to automatically do this by creating a configuration profile for NVDA's say all feature that slows the speech rate down when I press the say all command. I've pretty much stopped doing this, though, because using that profile somehow seems to change the speech rate for my normal configuration, which is really annoying. I believe I had the same issue when I created a configuration profile that slowed speech when I used the Kindle app. Has anyone else noticed this? Is there a way to fix or get around it? Would changing the synthesizer for that particular profile help? I'm not sure what synthesizer would be free or cheap and good for reading, but I would be willing to try different ones out if that would fix this problem. Thanks.



Re: Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

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I think I understood it that a picture needs to be sent knowing its got text before it gets ocred by google, but its not very clear from their info. I gave up on google docs since it seems very powerful but actually getting ones head around its interface seems alien to my brain!
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From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google docs and NVDA and Chrome


Hi!
I use it with Chrome all the time.
Make sure that you have NVDA in focus mode. You should be able to use all of the navigation commands like arrows, page up and down and so on to read the document. Any type of document can be opened as a Google doc. Once a file opens in Google Docs, it is automatically changed into a Google doc. There is no conversion you need to perform on your own, Google does the conversion by itself. So, a PDF will open as a Google doc, if it is in the Google Docs Window!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 11:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

HI,

I have had a document shared with me but I can't seem to find a way to read it. I can only hear the first line which says "About:".

Is it possible to access google docs with NVDA and Chrome?

Thanks.

Dan Beaver


Re: Say All and NVDA

Gene
 

I haven't worked with profiles to any extent and this may not be as good a solution as others will propose.  You could make a profile not just regarding say all.  You could make a profile for slowing speech when the Kindle application is loaded and leave all settings the same but have speech slowed to the rate you want. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 4:51 AM
To: nvda
Subject: [nvda] Say All and NVDA

HI, everyone. I have a couple questions and was wondering if anyone
could help. I have the latest Next snapshot of NVDA and Windows 10
Insider build 17134, but what I'm asking about has been an issue for a
long time. I often read books on my laptop with Kindle for PC,
especially if I can't find an audio version somewhere Else. I use eSpeak
NG and have it set really fast for most things, but when I'm reading, I
like to slow it down. A lot of times, I've tried to automatically do
this by creating a configuration profile for NVDA's say all feature that
slows the speech rate down when I press the say all command. I've pretty
much stopped doing this, though, because using that profile somehow
seems to change the speech rate for my normal configuration, which is
really annoying. I believe I had the same issue when I created a
configuration profile that slowed speech when I used the Kindle app. Has
anyone   else noticed this? Is there a way to fix or get around it?
Would changing the synthesizer for that particular profile help? I'm not
sure what synthesizer would be free or cheap and good for reading, but I
would be willing to try different ones out if that would fix this
problem. Thanks.




Say All and NVDA

 

HI, everyone. I have a couple questions and was wondering if anyone could help. I have the latest Next snapshot of NVDA and Windows 10 Insider build 17134, but what I'm asking about has been an issue for a long time. I often read books on my laptop with Kindle for PC, especially if I can't find an audio version somewhere Else. I use eSpeak NG and have it set really fast for most things, but when I'm reading, I like to slow it down. A lot of times, I've tried to automatically do this by creating a configuration profile for NVDA's say all feature that slows the speech rate down when I press the say all command. I've pretty much stopped doing this, though, because using that profile somehow seems to change the speech rate for my normal configuration, which is really annoying. I believe I had the same issue when I created a configuration profile that slowed speech when I used the Kindle app. Has anyone   else noticed this? Is there a way to fix or get around it? Would changing the synthesizer for that particular profile help? I'm not sure what synthesizer would be free or cheap and good for reading, but I would be willing to try different ones out if that would fix this problem. Thanks.


Re: Brailliant display on startup

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

I don’t use Braille, so I may be talking nonsense here.  Regarding braille not being available on log-in screen, presumably you have braille settings on the NVDA profile associated with your windows user account but have you used the feature in the NVDA General setting dialog where you can copy your profile for use on log-in screens?  

 

Cheers

Chris

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brandon Cross
Sent: 19 April 2018 04:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Brailliant display on startup

 

If you get the braille extender addon, things seem to get better in reloading it if it goes off, and you can set a hotkey to load whichever one you want, plus its got all sorts of other cool features.

 

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 9:50 PM, Karl Smith <karl@...> wrote:

I have just installed a Brailliant 40 on a Del laptop with NVDA. I have noticed a couple of issues and wonder if anyone has any answers.

1. The Braille doesn't come up during logon but only after NVDA is fully loaded. Is there any way to change this?
2. The end user won't have their display immediately so will have to plug it in when it arrives. I find that even after it is plugged in you have to restart NVDA to have Braille. Is this normal, as the screen reader who shall not be named pops up Braille when the display is plugged in.

Thanks.

Karl



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Re: Urgently need help (word 2010)

prem.translator@...
 

Hello Quentin,
Thank you for your reply. Anyway, I'd like to ask you something, it's a little bit off-topic.

Do you have plan to launch NVDA manual for any other programs besides Word and Excel in the future e.g. PowerPoint.


Re: Urgently need help (word 2010)

Quentin Christensen
 

It's on our list of things to do.  We have an open issue for it on GitHub, which came about because of a very similar issue: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6297

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 1:55 PM, <prem.translator@...> wrote:
Thank you Quentin for your help, 
Yes, there are a lot of changes in the document, because it is a translation table. Is there any possibility to fix the time out in the future? 




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Re: Urgently need help (word 2010)

prem.translator@...
 

Thank you Quentin for your help, 
Yes, there are a lot of changes in the document, because it is a translation table. Is there any possibility to fix the time out in the future? 


Re: Brailliant display on startup

Brandon Cross <bcross3286@...>
 

If you get the braille extender addon, things seem to get better in reloading it if it goes off, and you can set a hotkey to load whichever one you want, plus its got all sorts of other cool features.

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 9:50 PM, Karl Smith <karl@...> wrote:
I have just installed a Brailliant 40 on a Del laptop with NVDA. I have noticed a couple of issues and wonder if anyone has any answers.

1. The Braille doesn't come up during logon but only after NVDA is fully loaded. Is there any way to change this?
2. The end user won't have their display immediately so will have to plug it in when it arrives. I find that even after it is plugged in you have to restart NVDA to have Braille. Is this normal, as the screen reader who shall not be named pops up Braille when the display is plugged in.

Thanks.

Karl



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Axis
4304 South El Camino St.
Taylorsville, Utah 84129

Phone: 866-824-7885
Fax:     866-824-7885
E-mail: karl@...
Alternate E-mail: karl.axistech@...

Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech

My blog http://www.samobile.net/users/oksaxis/blog/







Re: Urgently need help (word 2010)

Quentin Christensen
 

Good morning,

It looks like there are a lot of changes in the document.  Basically what happens is when NVDA is added all the annotations to the tree view in the element list (NVDA+f7 dialog), if it takes too long, it times out and doesn't end up adding anything.  It looks like that is what is happening here.

You can work around this by, still in Browse mode, moving to each annotation with "a" (shift+a moves back to the previous annotation).  You can then bring up the context menu (applications key) to accept or reject each.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:08 AM, <prem.translator@...> wrote:
I’m doing a research, after I sent a draft to my advisor, my advisor send me back the original with the following style of editor revision: insertion, Deletion, property formatted, and comment. I use Word 2010 with the latest version of NVDA, and here is my problem.

- I have two files with the same file format (.docx).
- For the two files, the first one, there is no table. but the other one contains only a table with about 28 rolls and 4 columns in each roll, and everything is in the table.
- Both have the same style of editor revision (insertion, deletion and comment).
- The problem is: when I open both files and list the elements using insert + F7 and choose "annotations", NVDA can list annotations for the file that doesn't have table, but not for the other one.

Below are links for both files.

First file:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=10IuAreAsiaMMjWJ7QOoRMURlCRzl7C4a

second file:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1C3HRJmtNSVj_9gK8oxIk6WmbFlENcCE0

Please help me,
Thank you.




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Brailliant display on startup

Karl Smith
 

I have just installed a Brailliant 40 on a Del laptop with NVDA. I have noticed a couple of issues and wonder if anyone has any answers.

1. The Braille doesn't come up during logon but only after NVDA is fully loaded. Is there any way to change this?
2. The end user won't have their display immediately so will have to plug it in when it arrives. I find that even after it is plugged in you have to restart NVDA to have Braille. Is this normal, as the screen reader who shall not be named pops up Braille when the display is plugged in.

Thanks.

Karl



__________

Karl Smith, Access Technology Consultant
Axis
4304 South El Camino St.
Taylorsville, Utah 84129

Phone: 866-824-7885
Fax: 866-824-7885
E-mail: karl@axistech.net
Alternate E-mail: karl.axistech@gmail.com

Twitter http://twitter.com/axistech

My blog http://www.samobile.net/users/oksaxis/blog/


Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

Well, with win10 install disks, you can if you need to download the media creater, and do it that way.

Run it, make the disk, you will have to get help to use f8 to boot to the cd but then control winkey enter will get narator up and you can do all the setup yourself.

As an aside to the user that had the issue with a corrupted profile.

My profile recorupted again today, you should be able to make another easily enough, transfering things to it, well that needs doing and all your settings.

Though I cheated and transfered all my third party apps from the old profile to the new by coppying their appdata to the new profile.

As a further note, I really wish there was a way to repair a profile or prevent it from corrupting in the first place.

I also think that while probably not as secure, the registry has got so full of things not many can understand it.

And if one part of this centralised database fails you are done.

On 4/19/2018 7:56 AM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:
I'll let Shaun answer, but if he isn't sure, I'll inform the list.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Hello:

    Okay!  I have read many of your messages on the list about how a disk re-format makes it all good again!

    Can you please explain to all of us who are totally blind how to Re-format the hard disk without sighted assistance?

    If you can't give specific instructions on the process? Then, don't talk about doing things that require sighted assistance on a list which focuses on how blind users can get things done without sighted help which is not always available!!!

    It's always helpful to give specific instructions on doing tasks. rather than just throwing stuff out there without explaining how its done!

    Hopefully this list will go back to being a knowledge base instead of just conjecture!!!



On 4/18/2018 11:59 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
It depends why your system is slow and the age it is.

Its true, a good reformat will always make all your problems go away,
but if your hardware is ancient or on the edge of being made
compatible with the next os or is harder to replace etc, etc, etc then
you need a new computer.

Oh and if security is a concern.

But on the other side, your 3-5 year old unit  especially if its
before 2015 may be covered by general windows drivers and you may
never need extras in the first place.




On 19/04/2018 3:29 a.m., Ervin, Glenn wrote:
I have seen many folks get a new computer because their old one is
now slow.
They forget how fast it was when they first got it.
One can boot up to WinPE or use Linux to copy out the files if
Windows does not allow them to copy out certain files from the user's
folder.
Or if one is organized and knows where the critical keeper files are,
just copy them out, and if one's eMail is on the server, the computer
can be restored to a brand-new state and just put the files back.
No need to get a new computer, or new OS.
Glenn

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Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

I'd not say 7 is slow. I think we need to know if its always been
slow or has slowed, and then discuss why. In my experience when i did
dip my toe in the 10 water, a machine which was slow on xp or 7 was
equally slow on 10!
  Not always of course, but it depends on the reason for the
slowness, ie processor throttling lack of ram or hard disc
fragmentation. often fitting an ssd in a machine seems to
miraculously speed it up!
  Brian

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From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@gmail.com>
To: "NVDA users list" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "Jaws user list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!


Hi,
I have a windows 7 laptop, with both Jaws 16, and NVDA 2018.1.1 on it
This morning, when I booted the system, I got a message in the corner
of my
screen, which said, "get windows 10" so I clicked it, and supposedly,
reserved my copy.
note: at that time, I wasn't connected to wifi, but apparently it still
worked.
I wish I could get that balloon back, now that I'm connected just to
make
sure.
Windows 7 is very slow.

What can I do?
Sorry for cross-posting but I felt that was best, since I have both
screen-readers installed, although, Jaws is unlicensed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.



Thanks,
Jessica










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Re: NVDA and Focus 14 Bluetooth Braille Display

 

Rui,

           Thanks much.   Given the stature of Freedom Scientific and the number of Braille displays that seem to be included "as shipped" with NVDA I am surprised that those from Freedom Scientific are not among them.

           For those who might want the focus series drivers, they are available via a download link on this webpage:  http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/Focus/FocusBlueBrailleDisplayDriver

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Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Tyler Wood
 

Hi

Should add here that I have no clue what Sarah is talking about by not accessible.

It is, and has been, accessible for years when using the PE or, these days, the windows 10 installer dvd.

Even the surface book can be booted from USB by holding down the volume down key while pressing the power button. Lenovo is f2, if I remember correctly for anything made after 2013 or so.


On 18-Apr-2018 6:23 PM, Gene wrote:
The link to the version that, as I recall, supports Windows 10 created by the late Carlos, owner of the Techtalk list, is available on this page:
 
I believe this PE environment is superior to the other one when working with Windows 7 as well though I'm just saying that based on vague impressions of discussions on TechTalk.  I haven't used either and know little about them.
 
The page has other programs and utilities that may be of interest.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Well, since Sarah joined in, and before I forget to send some helpful info, I will describe how I would do it.

You can go to:

https://blog.bryansmart.com/talking-windows-7-pre-installation-environment/

and download a talking copy of WinPE.  I believe his only includes WinPe for windows 7.

I have a Windows 10 WinPe that talks, from another site, but my work network won’t allow me to either go to that site or send a link to it, as it scans URLs for wording it does not like.

Anyway, you can put WinPe on a DVD or USB thumb drive and boot to it and you are in windows.

Not your windows, but WinPe.

You will have Internet access and lots of utilities.

I’m sure you can scan a drive for viruses this way too.

You can make an ISO of your C: drive and put it on another drive and format your drive and either reinstall Windows, or put the ISO contents back onto the drive.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:58 PM
To: nvda list list
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

In my case I just used aira  to help me as the process for me is not accessible at all. We got it done in about 5 minutes thanks ssd.



On Apr 18, 2018, at 12:56 PM, Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@...> wrote:

 

I'll let Shaun answer, but if he isn't sure, I'll inform the list.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:54 PM
To: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Hello:

    Okay!  I have read many of your messages on the list about how a disk re-format makes it all good again!

    Can you please explain to all of us who are totally blind how to Re-format the hard disk without sighted assistance?

    If you can't give specific instructions on the process? Then, don't talk about doing things that require sighted assistance on a list which focuses on how blind users can get things done without sighted help which is not always available!!!

    It's always helpful to give specific instructions on doing tasks. rather than just throwing stuff out there without explaining how its done!

    Hopefully this list will go back to being a knowledge base instead of just conjecture!!!



On 4/18/2018 11:59 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

It depends why your system is slow and the age it is.

Its true, a good reformat will always make all your problems go away, 
but if your hardware is ancient or on the edge of being made 
compatible with the next os or is harder to replace etc, etc, etc then 
you need a new computer.

Oh and if security is a concern.

But on the other side, your 3-5 year old unit  especially if its 
before 2015 may be covered by general windows drivers and you may 
never need extras in the first place.




On 19/04/2018 3:29 a.m., Ervin, Glenn wrote:

I have seen many folks get a new computer because their old one is 
now slow.
They forget how fast it was when they first got it.
One can boot up to WinPE or use Linux to copy out the files if 
Windows does not allow them to copy out certain files from the user's 
folder.
Or if one is organized and knows where the critical keeper files are, 
just copy them out, and if one's eMail is on the server, the computer 
can be restored to a brand-new state and just put the files back.
No need to get a new computer, or new OS.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of 
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

I'd not say 7 is slow. I think we need to know if its always been 
slow or has slowed, and then discuss why. In my experience when i did 
dip my toe in the 10 water, a machine which was slow on xp or 7 was 
equally slow on 10!
  Not always of course, but it depends on the reason for the 
slowness, ie processor throttling lack of ram or hard disc 
fragmentation. often fitting an ssd in a machine seems to 
miraculously speed it up!
  Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@...>
To: "NVDA users list" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "Jaws user list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!


Hi,
I have a windows 7 laptop, with both Jaws 16, and NVDA 2018.1.1 on it
This morning, when I booted the system, I got a message in the corner 
of my
screen, which said, "get windows 10" so I clicked it, and supposedly,
reserved my copy.
note: at that time, I wasn't connected to wifi, but apparently it still
worked.
I wish I could get that balloon back, now that I'm connected just to 
make
sure.
Windows 7 is very slow.

What can I do?
Sorry for cross-posting but I felt that was best, since I have both
screen-readers installed, although, Jaws is unlicensed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.



Thanks,
Jessica










.





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Re: Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

Gene
 

But in this case, the person is using someone else's document.  it appears your comments imply that the text of the document may have been sent as an image.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

Hi Gene!

If you change the setting on the Google Docs

Web site to always upload as a Google Doc, images are always scanned by Google, and even an image PDF is uploaded as a Google Doc.

You can just press enter on the file, and open it up in the Google Docs window.

I do that all the time, and it is so very powerful!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 6:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

 

The first question, at least for me, who knows very little about Google Docs, (spelling) is whether images can be sent using it.  If this is an image, some way of recognizing the text must be found.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 3:25 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

 

Hello Dan,
Have you tried refreshing the page with f5?
When I can't read anything, I go the adress bar and then I return to the document.
Have you also tried turning browse mode on and off with nvda+space bar?
I have no other ideas for the moment.
Best
Sylvie
Le 18/04/2018 à 18:47, Dan Beaver a écrit :

Thank you for the info.

 

I tried using the ctrl+alt+z stroke and it said screen reader support enabled.  However, it still just says "about:".  My wife looked at the screen and it has other info on it but NVDA can't read it.

 

Any other ideas?  Does the doc have to be formatted in a certain way to make it accessible?

 

Dan Beaver

 

On 4/18/2018 12:01 PM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello Dan,

Google docs works fine with Chrome and NVDA.

You have to enable screen reader support in pressing ctrl+alt+Z.

Sylvie

Le 18/04/2018 à 17:35, Dan Beaver a écrit :

HI,

 

I have had a document shared with me but I can't seem to find a way to read it.  I can only hear the first line which says "About:".

 

Is it possible to access google docs with NVDA and Chrome?

 

Thanks.

 

Dan Beaver

 

 

 

 


Re: Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

David Moore
 

Hi!

I use it with Chrome all the time.

Make sure that you have NVDA in focus mode. You should be able to use all of the navigation commands like arrows, page up and down and so on to read the document. Any type of document can be opened as a Google doc. Once a file opens in Google Docs, it is automatically changed into a Google doc. There is no conversion you need to perform on your own, Google does the conversion by itself. So, a PDF will open as a Google doc, if it is in the Google Docs Window!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 11:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

 

HI,

 

I have had a document shared with me but I can't seem to find a way to read it.  I can only hear the first line which says "About:".

 

Is it possible to access google docs with NVDA and Chrome?

 

Thanks.

 

Dan Beaver

 


Re: Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

David Moore
 

Hi Gene!

If you change the setting on the Google Docs

Web site to always upload as a Google Doc, images are always scanned by Google, and even an image PDF is uploaded as a Google Doc.

You can just press enter on the file, and open it up in the Google Docs window.

I do that all the time, and it is so very powerful!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 6:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

 

The first question, at least for me, who knows very little about Google Docs, (spelling) is whether images can be sent using it.  If this is an image, some way of recognizing the text must be found.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 3:25 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Google docs and NVDA and Chrome

 

Hello Dan,
Have you tried refreshing the page with f5?
When I can't read anything, I go the adress bar and then I return to the document.
Have you also tried turning browse mode on and off with nvda+space bar?
I have no other ideas for the moment.
Best
Sylvie
Le 18/04/2018 à 18:47, Dan Beaver a écrit :

Thank you for the info.

 

I tried using the ctrl+alt+z stroke and it said screen reader support enabled.  However, it still just says "about:".  My wife looked at the screen and it has other info on it but NVDA can't read it.

 

Any other ideas?  Does the doc have to be formatted in a certain way to make it accessible?

 

Dan Beaver

 

On 4/18/2018 12:01 PM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello Dan,

Google docs works fine with Chrome and NVDA.

You have to enable screen reader support in pressing ctrl+alt+Z.

Sylvie

Le 18/04/2018 à 17:35, Dan Beaver a écrit :

HI,

 

I have had a document shared with me but I can't seem to find a way to read it.  I can only hear the first line which says "About:".

 

Is it possible to access google docs with NVDA and Chrome?

 

Thanks.

 

Dan Beaver

 

 

 

 


Re: help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Gene
 

The link to the version that, as I recall, supports Windows 10 created by the late Carlos, owner of the Techtalk list, is available on this page:
 
I believe this PE environment is superior to the other one when working with Windows 7 as well though I'm just saying that based on vague impressions of discussions on TechTalk.  I haven't used either and know little about them.
 
The page has other programs and utilities that may be of interest.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Well, since Sarah joined in, and before I forget to send some helpful info, I will describe how I would do it.

You can go to:

https://blog.bryansmart.com/talking-windows-7-pre-installation-environment/

and download a talking copy of WinPE.  I believe his only includes WinPe for windows 7.

I have a Windows 10 WinPe that talks, from another site, but my work network won’t allow me to either go to that site or send a link to it, as it scans URLs for wording it does not like.

Anyway, you can put WinPe on a DVD or USB thumb drive and boot to it and you are in windows.

Not your windows, but WinPe.

You will have Internet access and lots of utilities.

I’m sure you can scan a drive for viruses this way too.

You can make an ISO of your C: drive and put it on another drive and format your drive and either reinstall Windows, or put the ISO contents back onto the drive.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:58 PM
To: nvda list list
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

 

In my case I just used aira  to help me as the process for me is not accessible at all. We got it done in about 5 minutes thanks ssd.



On Apr 18, 2018, at 12:56 PM, Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@...> wrote:

 

I'll let Shaun answer, but if he isn't sure, I'll inform the list.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 2:54 PM
To: 
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

Hello:

    Okay!  I have read many of your messages on the list about how a disk re-format makes it all good again!

    Can you please explain to all of us who are totally blind how to Re-format the hard disk without sighted assistance?

    If you can't give specific instructions on the process? Then, don't talk about doing things that require sighted assistance on a list which focuses on how blind users can get things done without sighted help which is not always available!!!

    It's always helpful to give specific instructions on doing tasks. rather than just throwing stuff out there without explaining how its done!

    Hopefully this list will go back to being a knowledge base instead of just conjecture!!!



On 4/18/2018 11:59 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

It depends why your system is slow and the age it is.

Its true, a good reformat will always make all your problems go away, 
but if your hardware is ancient or on the edge of being made 
compatible with the next os or is harder to replace etc, etc, etc then 
you need a new computer.

Oh and if security is a concern.

But on the other side, your 3-5 year old unit  especially if its 
before 2015 may be covered by general windows drivers and you may 
never need extras in the first place.




On 19/04/2018 3:29 a.m., Ervin, Glenn wrote:

I have seen many folks get a new computer because their old one is 
now slow.
They forget how fast it was when they first got it.
One can boot up to WinPE or use Linux to copy out the files if 
Windows does not allow them to copy out certain files from the user's 
folder.
Or if one is organized and knows where the critical keeper files are, 
just copy them out, and if one's eMail is on the server, the computer 
can be restored to a brand-new state and just put the files back.
No need to get a new computer, or new OS.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of 
Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!

I'd not say 7 is slow. I think we need to know if its always been 
slow or has slowed, and then discuss why. In my experience when i did 
dip my toe in the 10 water, a machine which was slow on xp or 7 was 
equally slow on 10!
  Not always of course, but it depends on the reason for the 
slowness, ie processor throttling lack of ram or hard disc 
fragmentation. often fitting an ssd in a machine seems to 
miraculously speed it up!
  Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jessica D" <jldail13@...>
To: "NVDA users list" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc: "Jaws user list" <main@jfw.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] help, can't get balloon about Win 10 back!


Hi,
I have a windows 7 laptop, with both Jaws 16, and NVDA 2018.1.1 on it
This morning, when I booted the system, I got a message in the corner 
of my
screen, which said, "get windows 10" so I clicked it, and supposedly,
reserved my copy.
note: at that time, I wasn't connected to wifi, but apparently it still
worked.
I wish I could get that balloon back, now that I'm connected just to 
make
sure.
Windows 7 is very slow.

What can I do?
Sorry for cross-posting but I felt that was best, since I have both
screen-readers installed, although, Jaws is unlicensed.

Thanks for any help you can provide.



Thanks,
Jessica










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Re: NVDA and Focus 14 Bluetooth Braille Display

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

Open NVDA manual, look for the Freedom Scientific Braille displays section and find there the link for the Focus driver...

Install it, and Focus will appear in Braille displays list.

Rui


Às 00:06 de 19/04/2018, Brian Vogel escreveu:

I have a Win10 laptop with a Focus 14 Braille Display from Freedom Scientific paired with it.  When I go into the NVDA Preferences menu, Braille Settings there is nothing presented in a rather long list that makes any sense since there isn't a thing for Focus or Freedom Scientific in that list.  Is the Focus line of Braille Displays not supported?  If it is, what am I doing wrong.
By the way, we did shut down NVDA after pairing the device and restarted it and that made no difference.
Any assistance gratefully accepted.
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