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Re: Is any one had the following browser problem with nvda?

 

Hi,

PowerShell replacing Command Prompt: it’s been like this since 1703 days.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 9:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any one had the following browser problem with nvda?

 

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 10:52 AM, Greg Epley wrote:

That setting [Replace Command Prompt with Windows PowerShell] will be on by default for some users but off for others. I prefer it off myself, but that's me.

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I want to say that the change occurred either at Version 1909 or 2004, but don't remember now.  It was a part of a feature update and everyone had PowerShell as the default immediately afterward.

I set that toggle off within days of whichever Feature Update is was that introduced it and defaulted the toggle to ON.

That's why I said Command Prompt or PowerShell in reference to what is in the menu brought up by WinKey+X.  I don't know who has this setting toggled in which direction, but an elevated Command Prompt or an elevated PowerShell will have Administrator as part of its window frame.

As Luke has noted, the actual command prompt you receive in the Command Prompt session will be your home directory for a regular session or C:\Windows\system32 for an elevated session.

In PowerShell, the actual command prompt is prefixed with PS before either your home directory in a regular session, or C:\Windows\system 32 in an elevated session.  I am using PowerShell 7, the latest version, when I use PowerShell at all.  I still favor Command Prompt just because it's familiar.


 
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Re: Is any one had the following browser problem with nvda?

 

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 10:52 AM, Greg Epley wrote:
That setting [Replace Command Prompt with Windows PowerShell] will be on by default for some users but off for others. I prefer it off myself, but that's me.
-
I want to say that the change occurred either at Version 1909 or 2004, but don't remember now.  It was a part of a feature update and everyone had PowerShell as the default immediately afterward.

I set that toggle off within days of whichever Feature Update is was that introduced it and defaulted the toggle to ON.

That's why I said Command Prompt or PowerShell in reference to what is in the menu brought up by WinKey+X.  I don't know who has this setting toggled in which direction, but an elevated Command Prompt or an elevated PowerShell will have Administrator as part of its window frame.

As Luke has noted, the actual command prompt you receive in the Command Prompt session will be your home directory for a regular session or C:\Windows\system32 for an elevated session.

In PowerShell, the actual command prompt is prefixed with PS before either your home directory in a regular session, or C:\Windows\system 32 in an elevated session.  I am using PowerShell 7, the latest version, when I use PowerShell at all.  I still favor Command Prompt just because it's familiar.


 
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Re: Wordpad and police changes reporting

Gene
 

There is a setting in NVDA preferences that causes NVDA to announce formatting changes. Use NVDA key control d to open document formatting. Shift tab to the ok button, then shift tab once more. You will hear explanatory text, but if you wait or use read current line, you will hear "Announce formatting changes after the cursor (can cause a lag.) This is a check box.
Check the check bpox with the space bar and activate the ok button. Try moving through the document and see what happens. I haven't used the feature enough to know if it will announce formatting changes when you move as you wish.

Once you are finished using the feature, use the command NVDA key control r to remove the setting and return to the previous one. You will hear configuration applied. I won't go into that here.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: bering.p
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 1:10 AM
To: nvda courrier
Subject: [nvda] Wordpad and police changes reporting

Hi.
Steps to reproduce:
- open new document in Windows Wordpad.
- type some texte.
- change the police attributes or color of some word.
- check all options of police group in "document formatting" NVDA settings category.

Now, review the document with uparrow or downArrow keys.
NVDA don't report formatting changes.

Is this a bad observation on my part or a bug in NVDA?
Thanks.
Bestregards.
Paul.


Re: Is any one had the following browser problem with nvda?

Greg Epley <greg.epley64@...>
 

Depends on your setting in Settings > Personalization > Task Bar > Replace Command Prompt with Windows PowerShell in the menu when I right-click the start button or press Windows key+X.

That setting will be on by default for some users but off for others. I prefer it off myself, but that's me.
-Greg Epley

On 4/24/2021 10:19 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
Hmm, that launched Windows Power Shell with Admin rights.



On 2021-04-24 10:03 a.m., Greg Epley wrote:
Far less keystrokes and not having to remember whether one needs Ctrl and/or Shift with Enter is WindowsKey+X to pop open the Start menu, followed by "A" as in "Admin", then Alt+Y to respond Yes to the UAC prompt. The resulting window title says "Administrator:" to indicate you're in an elevated command window. This will work unless one has perhaps configured their Start menu to show more items than I prefer; I deliberately keep mine as bare bones as possible since I prefer other shortcut methods to launch items. I use the same Start menu shortcut key and single letters to perform restarts, shutdowns or other common operations with less keystrokes. The specific letters one needs should be spoken by most screen readers unless the screen reader has been set not to report such aids, which would only be advisable for very advanced Windows users.

-Greg Epley


On 4/24/2021 12:58 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
Hmm, the prompt is not looking any different no matter what I add to Enter. what am I missing?

How can I tell I've launched the elevated prompt?


On 2021-04-23 7:58 p.m., Richard Wells wrote:
I Have to press SHIFT+CONTROL+ENTER to get the elevated prompt from the
run dialog.

On 4/23/2021 3:09 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
Jackie, at least in 20H2, that no longer seems to work. I noticed it
in passing last week, and just checked again per your comment.

Jackie wrote:

Might I also say that if you invoke the run dialog (windows key + r)
then type cmd & press *control+enter* as opposed to just enter alone,
you'll also get an administrative (elevated) command prompt.















Re: Is any one had the following browser problem with nvda?

Chris Smart
 

Hmm, that launched Windows Power Shell with Admin rights.

On 2021-04-24 10:03 a.m., Greg Epley wrote:
Far less keystrokes and not having to remember whether one needs Ctrl and/or Shift with Enter is WindowsKey+X to pop open the Start menu, followed by "A" as in "Admin", then Alt+Y to respond Yes to the UAC prompt. The resulting window title says "Administrator:" to indicate you're in an elevated command window. This will work unless one has perhaps configured their Start menu to show more items than I prefer; I deliberately keep mine as bare bones as possible since I prefer other shortcut methods to launch items. I use the same Start menu shortcut key and single letters to perform restarts, shutdowns or other common operations with less keystrokes. The specific letters one needs should be spoken by most screen readers unless the screen reader has been set not to report such aids, which would only be advisable for very advanced Windows users.

-Greg Epley


On 4/24/2021 12:58 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
Hmm, the prompt is not looking any different no matter what I add to Enter. what am I missing?

How can I tell I've launched the elevated prompt?


On 2021-04-23 7:58 p.m., Richard Wells wrote:
I Have to press SHIFT+CONTROL+ENTER to get the elevated prompt from the
run dialog.

On 4/23/2021 3:09 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
Jackie, at least in 20H2, that no longer seems to work. I noticed it
in passing last week, and just checked again per your comment.

Jackie wrote:

Might I also say that if you invoke the run dialog (windows key + r)
then type cmd & press *control+enter* as opposed to just enter alone,
you'll also get an administrative (elevated) command prompt.












Re: Is any one had the following browser problem with nvda?

Greg Epley <greg.epley64@...>
 

Far less keystrokes and not having to remember whether one needs Ctrl and/or Shift with Enter is WindowsKey+X to pop open the Start menu, followed by "A" as in "Admin", then Alt+Y to respond Yes to the UAC prompt. The resulting window title says "Administrator:" to indicate you're in an elevated command window. This will work unless one has perhaps configured their Start menu to show more items than I prefer; I deliberately keep mine as bare bones as possible since I prefer other shortcut methods to launch items. I use the same Start menu shortcut key and single letters to perform restarts, shutdowns or other common operations with less keystrokes. The specific letters one needs should be spoken by most screen readers unless the screen reader has been set not to report such aids, which would only be advisable for very advanced Windows users.

-Greg Epley

On 4/24/2021 12:58 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
Hmm, the prompt is not looking any different no matter what I add to Enter. what am I missing?

How can I tell I've launched the elevated prompt?


On 2021-04-23 7:58 p.m., Richard Wells wrote:
I Have to press SHIFT+CONTROL+ENTER to get the elevated prompt from the
run dialog.

On 4/23/2021 3:09 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
Jackie, at least in 20H2, that no longer seems to work. I noticed it
in passing last week, and just checked again per your comment.

Jackie wrote:

Might I also say that if you invoke the run dialog (windows key + r)
then type cmd & press *control+enter* as opposed to just enter alone,
you'll also get an administrative (elevated) command prompt.









Add-on Updater advisory for NVDA alpha users: update check results are not shown on screen

 

Hi all,

The following advisory is applicable if you are using Add-on Updater with NvDA alpha snapshots (which should not be many of you):

Due to changes in wxPython and removal of a constant used in it, Add-on Updater will not display update check results after initiating add-on update checks. This change affects any add-on that ships with its own dialog, including Add-on Updater.

I’m testing a potential solution and will include a fix as part of Add-on Updater 21.05 (next week at the earliest). For those using NVDA alpha builds, it will be a manual download; for people using 2020.4, this advisory is not applicable and therefore the new version will be pushed automatically. Speaking of 21.05, the new release will start checking for updates for newly registered add-ons such as WinWizard.

Cheers,

Joseph


Wordpad and police changes reporting

bering.p
 

Hi.
Steps to reproduce:
- open new document in Windows Wordpad.
- type some texte.
- change the police attributes or color of some word.
- check all options of police group in      "document formatting" NVDA settings category.

Now, review the document with uparrow or downArrow keys.
NVDA don't report formatting changes.

Is this a bad observation on my part or a bug in NVDA?
Thanks.
Bestregards.
Paul.


Re: Is any one had the following browser problem with nvda?

Luke Davis
 

A regular user command prompt will launch in your home directory.

C:\Users\YourUserName>

The elevated prompt will launch in something like:

C:\Windows\System32>

Just press enter after the prompt launches, and you'll hear what directory you're in as part of the prompt.

Also, an elevated one should hit you with a UAC dialog before it starts.

Luke

Chris Smart wrote:

Hmm, the prompt is not looking any different no matter what I add to Enter. what am I missing?


Re: Is any one had the following browser problem with nvda?

Chris Smart
 

cmd

On 2021-04-24 1:04 a.m., Jackie wrote:
Chris, invoke the run dialog. Type cmd then hit control shift enter.
You'll get a UAC popup, to which you'll need to answer yes (alt y) to
get the elevated command prompt. Once that's done, if you press insert
t, you'll hear something similar, if not identical to, "administrator
c:\windows\system32\cmd.exe."

On 4/23/21, Chris Smart <ve3rwj@winsystem.org> wrote:
Hmm, the prompt is not looking any different no matter what I add to
Enter. what am I missing?

How can I tell I've launched the elevated prompt?


On 2021-04-23 7:58 p.m., Richard Wells wrote:
I Have to press SHIFT+CONTROL+ENTER to get the elevated prompt from the
run dialog.

On 4/23/2021 3:09 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
Jackie, at least in 20H2, that no longer seems to work. I noticed it
in passing last week, and just checked again per your comment.

Jackie wrote:

Might I also say that if you invoke the run dialog (windows key + r)
then type cmd & press *control+enter* as opposed to just enter alone,
you'll also get an administrative (elevated) command prompt.








Re: Is any one had the following browser problem with nvda?

Chris Smart
 

ah ok. got it. I already have UAC turned to minimum so didn't see the dialog.

On 2021-04-24 1:04 a.m., Jackie wrote:
Chris, invoke the run dialog. Type cmd then hit control shift enter.
You'll get a UAC popup, to which you'll need to answer yes (alt y) to
get the elevated command prompt. Once that's done, if you press insert
t, you'll hear something similar, if not identical to, "administrator
c:\windows\system32\cmd.exe."

On 4/23/21, Chris Smart <ve3rwj@winsystem.org> wrote:
Hmm, the prompt is not looking any different no matter what I add to
Enter. what am I missing?

How can I tell I've launched the elevated prompt?


On 2021-04-23 7:58 p.m., Richard Wells wrote:
I Have to press SHIFT+CONTROL+ENTER to get the elevated prompt from the
run dialog.

On 4/23/2021 3:09 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
Jackie, at least in 20H2, that no longer seems to work. I noticed it
in passing last week, and just checked again per your comment.

Jackie wrote:

Might I also say that if you invoke the run dialog (windows key + r)
then type cmd & press *control+enter* as opposed to just enter alone,
you'll also get an administrative (elevated) command prompt.








Re: Is any one had the following browser problem with nvda?

Jackie
 

Chris, invoke the run dialog. Type cmd then hit control shift enter.
You'll get a UAC popup, to which you'll need to answer yes (alt y) to
get the elevated command prompt. Once that's done, if you press insert
t, you'll hear something similar, if not identical to, "administrator
c:\windows\system32\cmd.exe."

On 4/23/21, Chris Smart <ve3rwj@winsystem.org> wrote:
Hmm, the prompt is not looking any different no matter what I add to
Enter. what am I missing?

How can I tell I've launched the elevated prompt?


On 2021-04-23 7:58 p.m., Richard Wells wrote:
I Have to press SHIFT+CONTROL+ENTER to get the elevated prompt from the
run dialog.

On 4/23/2021 3:09 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
Jackie, at least in 20H2, that no longer seems to work. I noticed it
in passing last week, and just checked again per your comment.

Jackie wrote:

Might I also say that if you invoke the run dialog (windows key + r)
then type cmd & press *control+enter* as opposed to just enter alone,
you'll also get an administrative (elevated) command prompt.










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Re: Is any one had the following browser problem with nvda?

Chris Smart
 

Hmm, the prompt is not looking any different no matter what I add to Enter. what am I missing?

How can I tell I've launched the elevated prompt?

On 2021-04-23 7:58 p.m., Richard Wells wrote:
I Have to press SHIFT+CONTROL+ENTER to get the elevated prompt from the
run dialog.

On 4/23/2021 3:09 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
Jackie, at least in 20H2, that no longer seems to work. I noticed it
in passing last week, and just checked again per your comment.

Jackie wrote:

Might I also say that if you invoke the run dialog (windows key + r)
then type cmd & press *control+enter* as opposed to just enter alone,
you'll also get an administrative (elevated) command prompt.






Re: sticky nvda key

Luke Davis
 

Ted Galanos wrote:

I can’t remember whose skype I was supposed to call about NVDA key plug-in. it’s been a while since I posted and then I got super busy. If this is you,
please reply.
Ted, If you need the sticky key add-on that Tyler wrote, I just put a copy here for you:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/chq3xzhf3gq5skv/stickyModifier-0.1.nvda-addon?dl=1

I'll leave it there for a few days (I.E. until I remember to delete it).

Tested to work with latest NVDA (up to last alpha).

Luke


Re: Is any one had the following browser problem with nvda?

Richard Wells
 

I Have to press SHIFT+CONTROL+ENTER to get the elevated prompt from the
run dialog.

On 4/23/2021 3:09 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
Jackie, at least in 20H2, that no longer seems to work. I noticed it
in passing last week, and just checked again per your comment.

Jackie wrote:

Might I also say that if you invoke the run dialog (windows key + r)
then type cmd & press *control+enter* as opposed to just enter alone,
you'll also get an administrative (elevated) command prompt.



Re: Is any one had the following browser problem with nvda?

Gary Metzler
 

Hi Brian,

 

Thanks for the instructions they are very helpful.  You’re the best.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 2:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any one had the following browser problem with nvda?

 

On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 01:44 PM, Gary Metzler wrote:

What is an elevated command prompt?

-
It is an instance of Command Prompt being run with administrative privileges.  This is a frequently used term, which is why I use it, and yours is a frequent question from those encountering it for the first time.  But when you see it elsewhere, whether in reference to Command Prompt or PowerShell, it means you've opened it with "Run as Admin" selected.  The window frame for the session itself should have "Administrator: " in the title before either Command Prompt or PowerShell, depending on which you're using.

Remember, that even if you are using an account with administrative privileges, neither Command Prompt or Power Shell will open with those active unless you specifically invoke them with Admin privilege.

If you hit WinKey+X, then down arrow or up arrow to the entry for Command Prompt or PowerShell, there will be two entries, one with "(Admin)" next to the name and that's the one that opens an elevated session.  The one where it's not present gives you more typical user privileges, not full admin privileges, for that session.
 
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Re: [Solved] Synth ring not working

Luke Davis
 

Janet Brandly wrote:

I solved my synth ring problem. I forgot that I still have to use the laptop keyboard layout even though I am using an external full keyboard.
You don't, of course. In case you think that because you're using a laptop, you can't use the desktop layout: you can. Even on my laptops I never use the laptop layout.

Luke


[Solved] Synth ring not working

Janet Brandly
 

Hello all,

 

I solved my synth ring problem. I forgot that I still have to use the laptop keyboard layout even though I am using an external full keyboard. Thanks to those of you who responded.

 

Janet


Re: Is any one had the following browser problem with nvda?

Luke Davis
 

You're right, Sarah. I must have been misremembering that one.

Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I thought it was control shift enter on a program to run as admin, unless I misread instructions, which very well could have happened.


sticky nvda key

Ted Galanos
 

 

 

www.GalanosConsulting.com

713-396-3495

 

I can’t remember whose skype I was supposed to call about NVDA key plug-in. it’s been a while since I posted and then I got super busy. If this is you, please reply.

 

Ted Galanos

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Accessibility Analyst at Fable.

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