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Re: Firefox seems slower?

 

search for waterfox on google I believe its waterfoxproject.org.

On 17/03/2018 4:49 a.m., Casey wrote:
Hi what is the best site to get this waterfox from and does it act just like firefox?

Like do you use the same command to open the address bar for entering A web site address?




On 3/16/2018 4:59 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well it uses the old firefox interface, in june this year firefox will shut down all its addons and other things so it can push everyone to use the web extention restricted framework.

Waterfox aparently doesn't do this, it doesn't have all the tracking and junk, of importance to users, it is not loaded with any mozilla system addons just language packs.

Its based on mozilla code and will move to its own codebase.

Depending on its accessibility after june etc and the porting of things depends what I do after that.




On 15/03/2018 5:30 p.m., Jaffar Sidek wrote:
Hi. Someone did bring up the value of migrating to the Waterfox web browser sometime ago.  Well, I took Waterfox for a spin and I am converted.  I'm not sure if Waterfox uses the mozilla engine, but it seems to be faster and smoother and less cluttered than Firefox.  I tried it with both Jaws and NVDA, and NVDA came up tops.  You can't go far wrong if you at least give Waterfox a try.  Google for it.  If you are willing to get off your comfort zone and work with something different, you'll reap the nenifits immediately. Anyway, there is not much of a difference in Waterfox's and Firefox's interface, so the learning curve isn't steep. Cheers!


On 14/3/2018 8:12 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi folks.

Does anyone find that firefox is really slow?

I'm using nvda 2018.1.

As for firefox, I've tried all of the beta/ nightly channels, but chrome, seems to run alot faster.

Is it just the computer, or just me.






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Re: Firefox seems slower?

 

Well using more than 4gb ram, and faster bootup.

There is one advantage there.

The other thing is that you can no longer buy 32 bit cpus.

You don't get dos emulation but thats just about it, a lot of stuff is moving toward 64 bit now days.

On 16/03/2018 11:32 p.m., zahra wrote:
but i prefer to use 32bit version of windows and 32bit versions of
software forever.
i did not see any advantage in 64bit for myself personally.

On 3/16/18, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
Which is fine for most newer systems you can't buy 32 bit systems at all
and everything will go 64 bit eventually 32 bit emulation is still
supported.




On 15/03/2018 6:09 p.m., zahra wrote:
yes, waterfox is based on firefox, but only supports 64 bit windows!

On 3/15/18, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi.  Someone did bring up the value of migrating to the Waterfox web
browser sometime ago.  Well, I took Waterfox for a spin and I am
converted.  I'm not sure if Waterfox uses the mozilla engine, but it
seems to be faster and smoother and less cluttered than Firefox.  I
tried it with both Jaws and NVDA, and NVDA came up tops.  You can't go
far wrong if you at least give Waterfox a try.  Google for it.  If you
are willing to get off your comfort zone and work with something
different, you'll reap the nenifits immediately.  Anyway, there is not
much of a difference in Waterfox's and Firefox's interface, so the
learning curve isn't steep.  Cheers!


On 14/3/2018 8:12 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi folks.

Does anyone find that firefox is really slow?

I'm using nvda 2018.1.

As for firefox, I've tried all of the beta/ nightly channels, but
chrome, seems to run alot faster.

Is it just the computer, or just me.







Re: where can I get an older version of NVDA?

 

nvda 2016.2 and newer versions are all very sluggish.
2017.1 is better, but nvda versions 2014 and 2015 had not such
sluggishness for me.
16.4 because iit released in one of the best day, i even helped in its
help translations and published its good news,
so, i love it and decided to use it forever.

On 3/17/18, mcLeod stinnett <macks75205@gmail.com> wrote:


--
from mack Zahra, I am using win 7 64 bit. sometimes newer versions of n v d
a seem a little sluggish. why do you like 16.4.



--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: where can I get an older version of NVDA?

mcLeod stinnett
 

--
from mack Zahra, I am using win 7 64 bit. sometimes newer versions of n v d a seem a little sluggish. why do you like 16.4.


FW: [nvda-addons] Notice: later in 2018, Joseph Lee's add-ons will require NVDA release powered by wxPython 4

 

Hi,

 

The following is an important advisory for people using the listed add-ons below. I asked add-ons community to provide notices regarding their add-ons if they are impacted by wxPython 4 changes. Thanks.

 

From: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io <nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 6:29 PM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda-addons] Notice: later in 2018, Joseph Lee's add-ons will require NVDA release powered by wxPython 4

 

Hi everyone,

 

Due to internal changes to wxPython 4, some of my add-ons will require a future NVDA release powered by wxPython 4. Specifically, wxPython 4 drops wx.PyDeadObjectError in favor of raising RuntimeError.

 

The following add-ons (either I created or am maintaining) are affected:

 

  • Enhanced Touch Gestures
  • Golden Cursor
  • StationPlaylist Studio
  • Windows 10 App Essentials

 

All of these add-ons display add-on configuration dialogs and thus are impacted by wxPython 4 changes. The NVDA release requirement will go into effect 30 days after release of the NVDA stable release powered by wxPython 4 (e.g. if NVDA 2018.2 is powered by wxPython 4 and is released on May 31, 2018, the above requirement will go into effect starting with the add-on releases scheduled for June 30, 2018 or later).

 

Special note for StationPlaylist Studio add-on: the above requirement is for those NOT on LTS channel.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph

P.S. I encourage other add-on writers to post notices like this if your add-on(s) are impacted by wxPython 4 changes.


Re: IntelliJ Idea and PyCharm with NVDA

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Hi. tried with both Jaws and Nvda.  No go.  Try Android studio or eclipse instead.  Cheers!

On 3/17/2018 8:35 AM, Tony Malykh wrote:
Intellij Idea comes with its own version of java:

C:\Program Files (x86)\JetBrains\IntelliJ IDEA Community Edition 2017.3.3\jre64\bin>java -version
openjdk version "1.8.0_152-release"
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_152-release-1024-b11)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.152-b11, mixed mode)


Yes, I enabled jaba access bridge both in control panel and in command line (jabswitch).


On 3/16/2018 4:34 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi.  Which Java version are you running?  Do you have Java's windows access bridge enabled?  I am using Android studio which is based on the free version of IntilleJ with a fair amount of success, though accessibility could be better.  Only NVDA will work propperly with IntelliJ, though I'm not sure about the other IDE.  Cheers!


On 17/3/2018 7:23 AM, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hello everyone,


Does anyone know if these two IDEs are accessible with NVDA? I've heard on another mailing list that they are somewhat accessible, but when I tried to run IntelliJ Idea,, it brings me to "Welcome to IntelliJ Idea", and this window appears to be empty, NVDA doesn't see any control elements or menus. If someone figured out a way to make either of them accessible, please let me know.


I'm using Windows 10 and NVDA 2018.1. I enabled java access bridge both in control panel and IntelliJ Idea's JRE from the command line with not much luck.


Thanks

Tony








Re: accessing links in a Kindle book with the KIndle app and NVDA

Aravind R
 

there is no shortcut given even on amazon official page. check here
for all other shortcuts.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201246000

On 3/17/18, Mary Otten <maryotten@comcast.net> wrote:
I am a big fan of cookbooks, and they often have lots of links to the
various recipes. But you can't just start tabbing when you are in a
Kindle book, because the first tab takes you out of the text and into
the table of contents. Very nice, but not when you want to see links. So
how to see links?


Mary




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Re: Reviewing notes

Michael
 

Greg,
Since this is your personal word document, you don't need to be formal.
Landmarks can look like something as simple as "Greg1", "Greg2", etc. Not
very suffisticated but it will serve.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Greg
Rhodes
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 5:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reviewing notes

Thanks guys. I have my document set up with headers. I'm looking for a way
that I can go to specific lines under each header. For example, when I
could see and was reading a textbook, I would underline the specific lines
or paragraphs I wanted to go back and review. When it came time to study
for a test, I could just review the things I had underlined. What's an
equivalent way to do that for a blind person. I would like to be able to
use single key navigation to go quickly through the specific items I want
to go back and review. If I did some kind of track change notation on each
item I wanted to review, I could use "a" for annotation and do it. Is
there a simpler way? Thanks for any suggestions.


Re: IntelliJ Idea and PyCharm with NVDA

Tony Malykh
 

Intellij Idea comes with its own version of java:

C:\Program Files (x86)\JetBrains\IntelliJ IDEA Community Edition 2017.3.3\jre64\bin>java -version
openjdk version "1.8.0_152-release"
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_152-release-1024-b11)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.152-b11, mixed mode)


Yes, I enabled jaba access bridge both in control panel and in command line (jabswitch).

On 3/16/2018 4:34 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi.  Which Java version are you running?  Do you have Java's windows access bridge enabled?  I am using Android studio which is based on the free version of IntilleJ with a fair amount of success, though accessibility could be better.  Only NVDA will work propperly with IntelliJ, though I'm not sure about the other IDE.  Cheers!


On 17/3/2018 7:23 AM, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hello everyone,


Does anyone know if these two IDEs are accessible with NVDA? I've heard on another mailing list that they are somewhat accessible, but when I tried to run IntelliJ Idea,, it brings me to "Welcome to IntelliJ Idea", and this window appears to be empty, NVDA doesn't see any control elements or menus. If someone figured out a way to make either of them accessible, please let me know.


I'm using Windows 10 and NVDA 2018.1. I enabled java access bridge both in control panel and IntelliJ Idea's JRE from the command line with not much luck.


Thanks

Tony






accessing links in a Kindle book with the KIndle app and NVDA

Mary Otten
 

I am a big fan of cookbooks, and they often have lots of links to the various recipes. But you can't just start tabbing when you are in a Kindle book, because the first tab takes you out of the text and into the table of contents. Very nice, but not when you want to see links. So how to see links?


Mary


Enhanced Touch Gestures 18.03.1 emergency hotfix #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

Enhanced Touch Gestures add-on 18.03.1 resolves an unresolved command problem reported by users:

https://github.com/josephsl/enhancedTouchGestures/releases/tag/18.03

 

Cheers,

Jsoeph


Re: NVDA log error

 

Hi,
I see. I'll release a hotfix tonight.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 4:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA log error

I am running version 18.03 which appears to be the latest enhanced touch gestures addon

On 3/16/2018 5:52 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Which version of Enhanced Touch Gestures add-on are you using? There should be an update on add-ons website that fixes this problem.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 3:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA log error

This is the last few lines of the NVDA log file after starting NVDA
2018-1 on my Win 10 64 bit laptop.
ERROR - baseObject.ScriptableObject.bindGestures (17:10:52.335):
Error binding script touch_hoverUp in
<globalPlugins.enhancedTouchGestures.GlobalPlugin object at 0x06E951D0> INFO - core.main (17:10:52.338):
NVDA initialized










Re: Reviewing notes

Gene
 

I don't use Word nor do I know a lot about various word processor formatting options.  but, if this document is just for your use, you could do what I do to mark things.  I place something which isn't going to be found elsewhere in the document, such as an asterisk before something I want to be able to find.  You can then use the Word search and find next feature to find all such symbols moving through the document.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reviewing notes

Thanks guys. I have my document set up with headers. I’m looking for a way that I can go to specific lines under each header. For example, when I could see and was reading a textbook, I would underline the specific lines or paragraphs I wanted to go back and review. When it came time to study for a test, I could just review the things I had underlined. What’s an equivalent way to do that for a blind person. I would like to be able to use single key navigation to go quickly through the specific items I want to go back and review. If I did some kind of track change notation on each item I wanted to review, I could use “a” for annotation and do it. Is there a simpler way? Thanks for any suggestions.




Re: IntelliJ Idea and PyCharm with NVDA

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Hi.  Which Java version are you running?  Do you have Java's windows access bridge enabled?  I am using Android studio which is based on the free version of IntilleJ with a fair amount of success, though accessibility could be better.  Only NVDA will work propperly with IntelliJ, though I'm not sure about the other IDE.  Cheers!

On 17/3/2018 7:23 AM, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hello everyone,


Does anyone know if these two IDEs are accessible with NVDA? I've heard on another mailing list that they are somewhat accessible, but when I tried to run IntelliJ Idea,, it brings me to "Welcome to IntelliJ Idea", and this window appears to be empty, NVDA doesn't see any control elements or menus. If someone figured out a way to make either of them accessible, please let me know.


I'm using Windows 10 and NVDA 2018.1. I enabled java access bridge both in control panel and IntelliJ Idea's JRE from the command line with not much luck.


Thanks

Tony




Re: NVDA log error

Don H
 

I am running version 18.03 which appears to be the latest enhanced touch gestures addon

On 3/16/2018 5:52 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Which version of Enhanced Touch Gestures add-on are you using? There should be an update on add-ons website that fixes this problem.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 3:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA log error
This is the last few lines of the NVDA log file after starting NVDA
2018-1 on my Win 10 64 bit laptop.
ERROR - baseObject.ScriptableObject.bindGestures (17:10:52.335):
Error binding script touch_hoverUp in
<globalPlugins.enhancedTouchGestures.GlobalPlugin object at 0x06E951D0> INFO - core.main (17:10:52.338):
NVDA initialized


IntelliJ Idea and PyCharm with NVDA

Tony Malykh
 

Hello everyone,


Does anyone know if these two IDEs are accessible with NVDA? I've heard on another mailing list that they are somewhat accessible, but when I tried to run IntelliJ Idea,, it brings me to "Welcome to IntelliJ Idea", and this window appears to be empty, NVDA doesn't see any control elements or menus. If someone figured out a way to make either of them accessible, please let me know.


I'm using Windows 10 and NVDA 2018.1. I enabled java access bridge both in control panel and IntelliJ Idea's JRE from the command line with not much luck.


Thanks

Tony


Re: Reviewing notes

Greg Rhodes <gkrhodes@...>
 

Thanks guys. I have my document set up with headers. I’m looking for a way that I can go to specific lines under each header. For example, when I could see and was reading a textbook, I would underline the specific lines or paragraphs I wanted to go back and review. When it came time to study for a test, I could just review the things I had underlined. What’s an equivalent way to do that for a blind person. I would like to be able to use single key navigation to go quickly through the specific items I want to go back and review. If I did some kind of track change notation on each item I wanted to review, I could use “a” for annotation and do it. Is there a simpler way? Thanks for any suggestions.


Re: NVDA log error

 

Hi,
Which version of Enhanced Touch Gestures add-on are you using? There should be an update on add-ons website that fixes this problem.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 3:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA log error

This is the last few lines of the NVDA log file after starting NVDA
2018-1 on my Win 10 64 bit laptop.
ERROR - baseObject.ScriptableObject.bindGestures (17:10:52.335):
Error binding script touch_hoverUp in
<globalPlugins.enhancedTouchGestures.GlobalPlugin object at 0x06E951D0> INFO - core.main (17:10:52.338):
NVDA initialized


Re: waterfox

 

On 3/16/18, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
www.waterfoxproject.org/



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Hermann-Josef Kurzen
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 12:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] waterfox

Hi!

Where can I get Waterfox?


Greetings - Hermann



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Gesendet: Freitag, 16. März 2018 um 19:51 Uhr
Von: "David Griffith" <daj.griffith@gmail.com>
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] waterfox

Yes I have been using it as my default browser ever since Firefox
started being difficult I particularly like the inbuilt reader function
which strips links and ads out - control alt and r.
There are only a couple of issues.
For me in some edit boxes I get a very verbose feedback with the whole
string being announced every time I type a character. This tends to be
some google edit boxes but not all of them for some reason.
The other main issue is that for some reason some sites like Amazon
insists on occasionally interpreting Waterfox as a mobile device. This
restricts access to buying Kindle books and sometimes one click ordering.
Again this is not consistent. In these circumstances I simply copy the url
from Waterfox to chrome to complete the transaction if I am having
difficulties in Waterfox.
David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: 16 March 2018 18:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] waterfox

Hi, everyone,

I just downloaded waterfox and checked out the weather forcast for my area
using the braille weather underground site and waterfox is amazingly fast!
I think I'll really like using it.

Rosemarie










NVDA log error

Don H
 

This is the last few lines of the NVDA log file after starting NVDA 2018-1 on my Win 10 64 bit laptop.
ERROR - baseObject.ScriptableObject.bindGestures (17:10:52.335):
Error binding script touch_hoverUp in <globalPlugins.enhancedTouchGestures.GlobalPlugin object at 0x06E951D0>
INFO - core.main (17:10:52.338):
NVDA initialized